Called TRD...

[TRD Liquid Silver]

when i got to work this morning i turned on my pc and logged on toyota's dealer daily. which is basically a website for toyota dealers. looking at the screen i notice trd upgrades for celica's, so i click on it and it pretty muched talked about the brake kit and the new shocks that are available for the celica. which made me curious to find out what else they're working on. so i called the dealer hot-line and spoke to one of their reps.

the call was of course about their long awaited turbo or supercharger kit for the gts. he basically said that there are no plans for any turbo or s/c for the gts. due to the engine's high compression there isn't a reliable kit that trd would support 100%. he did go on to say that's it's not impossible to put a turbo or s/c, but trd will not release a product that would jeopardize the car. the only good news is that there are more products coming soon. trd is testing some parts from japan that are used in their racing series. mostly N/A products such as cams, headers, valves, valve springs and he mention the type r twice during the conversation saying that they are following the route of the type r by releasing products that would increase power by 10-30hp naturally for the gts. he then said not to worry about trd products for the celica, they're always trying to figure out ways to make the car go faster.

they are working on a s/c for the gt because of the lower compression and i quote the mr2, matrix and corolla would be able to use it as well..

so i guess we can put all this talk about a turbo kit from trd to rest...

[Keyshawn]

S/C, no S/C? TRD seems to change their minds on a daily basis about what to do for the Celica.

[atehrani]

I kinda figured that as much. But 10-30hp more? Is that with the stock ECU? What is the maximum load for our fuel system?

I am glad to hear that TRD is planning on making some parts, but I take that with a big grain of salt. I'll believe till I see it with my own eyes.

Personally the big brake kit is a waste, we already have excellent stopping power and we have enough suspension upgrades.

What is Toyota's official stance on the different rev-limiters for the 00 and 02 years? I still don't understand why they changed it, especially if the Matrix will debut with the 00 rev-limit.

[Keyshawn]

Originally posted by atehrani
I am glad to hear that TRD is planning on making some parts, but I take that with a big grain of salt. I'll believe till I see it with my own eyes.

Personally the big brake kit is a waste, we already have excellent stopping power and we have enough suspension upgrades.

What is Toyota's official stance on the different rev-limiters for the 00 and 02 years? I still don't understand why they changed it, especially if the Matrix will debut with the 00 rev-limit.

I absolutely agree with everything you said.

[hollywood]

thats why the celly is saying good bye and something with more potential(sp) is in the works.

[Kit99bar]

NA trd parts is cool with me

[GTS LAID]

yeah serious rice-age goin on with the big brake kit... why the F would someone pay 2G to make their car stop faster (maybe) when stopping the car already feels like you're landing on an aircraft carrier. Either way i guess its one of those I have the money and bought everything else mods. Nice to see that they're thinking about NA products... thats really nice... but why the hell dont they come up with a lower compression kit (still NA) and then Supercharge the sh!t out of it.... hmmm mr. toyota daily internet web... you wanna answer that... hmm..... j/k

[MarkyMark]

man, why even bother with TRD, if you had 10,000 people willing to put down $2k for a supercharger on the spot, they still wouldnt give a sh*t. Let them make their overpriced parts and then watch them pull them off the market b/c nobody can afford them.

[racinjason]

I don't recall TRD ever saying that they planned on a S/C or T/C for the GT-S. There was plenty of speculation. And TRD was looking into it. I'd prefer another company make it anyhow. It would be more affordable. Toyota marks up their parts way too much!!! I am just looking for a header, cams, etc.

[jotan82]

yada yada yada

all this is crap...

TRD doesn't know what they are doing...

don't depend on TRD for anything

[Drew]

Originally posted by GTS LAID
yeah serious rice-age goin on with the big brake kit... why the F would someone pay 2G to make their car stop faster (maybe) when stopping the car already feels like you're landing on an aircraft carrier. Either way i guess its one of those I have the money and bought everything else mods. Nice to see that they're thinking about NA products... thats really nice... but why the hell dont they come up with a lower compression kit (still NA) and then Supercharge the sh!t out of it.... hmmm mr. toyota daily internet web... you wanna answer that... hmm..... j/k

Yes, the Celica does have great stock brakes, but obviously you have never ridden in or driven a Celica with a brake upgrade (such as AEM). I took a spin with Larry in his old GT-S and that AEM upgrade made a whole-lotta difference. If it weren't $2K, I'd buy it.

[TRD Liquid Silver]

Originally posted by GTS LAID
Nice to see that they're thinking about NA products... thats really nice... but why the hell dont they come up with a lower compression kit (still NA) and then Supercharge the sh!t out of it.... hmmm mr. toyota daily internet web... you wanna answer that... hmm..... j/k

can you imagine how much that would cost? your telling me that you'd put out all that money and drop it into a celica. i love my car, but not enough to spend an obscene amount just so i can hit 13's. i'd rather put my money into something else. how many of us here really could afford spending more than 5k for any f/i kit.. if we were able too then we'd all have the X/S kit...

[TRD Liquid Silver]

Originally posted by Keyshawn
S/C, no S/C? TRD seems to change their minds on a daily basis about what to do for the Celica.

they are planning on releasing a s/c for the gt. the reason being is that the matrix, corolla, mr2 would be able to use it as well.

i would certainly love for trd to comeout with some sort of f/i kit, cause i'd be first in line. i just know that even if the price is up there compared to other aftermarket products. in the back of my mind i know that toyota supports it and if anything should go wrong it's covered. if blitz or x/s can guarantee me that their kit is reliable then i wouldn't hesitate buying one. the only good thing about trd is that they're not going to comeout with a product that's 50% ok just so they can say they have one. there's a lot at stake if they did.

are there any members of this board that has the x/s kit??

[CelicaDetective]

They should at least offer a REAL TRD version of the Celica, at least with the bolt on's and a higher rev limit. Then I would know which car I'd be buying. I'd rather buy that then the dull looking RSX (Type-R) that's coming soon.

Mike

[CelicaDetective]

Come to think of it, I recall Toyota publicly saying "More fun versions of the Celica will be available in the future."

I hope that's not what they meant with the "Action Package" :o

Mike

[MarkyMark]

Originally posted by CelicaDetective
I hope that's not what they meant with the "Action Package" :o

Mike

pretty much, they're talking about that egg shaped POS design.

[SmittyVVTLi]

Great TRD is snuffing the GT-S for the GT that makes sense. How is it they don't know that FI is the small dispacement engines savior. NA parts, great but for how much and how much of a pain to install?

[TRD Liquid Silver]

Originally posted by SmittyVVTLi
Great TRD is snuffing the GT-S for the GT that makes sense. How is it they don't know that FI is the small dispacement engines savior. NA parts, great but for how much and how much of a pain to install?

spoke with my parts manager over here and he basically said the same thing. he spoke to a trd rep about the matrix and what their plans were and also asked about the celica. they're working on cams, valves, headers and pistons for the gts. the only thing that's coming out for the matrix as of now are suspension pkgs 18" wheel&tire set, body kits and exhaust system.

if they cameout with some sick cams and headers for the gts that would bump 20-25hp to the car, along with race pistons. your probably looking at 30-35hp. 220hp w/o intake or exhaust.
hmmm..............

[Kit99bar]

13s NA would be perfect

and people would not expect it at all heehh :)

Originally posted by TRD Liquid Silver


spoke with my parts manager over here and he basically said the same thing. he spoke to a trd rep about the matrix and what their plans were and also asked about the celica. they're working on cams, valves, headers and pistons for the gts. the only thing that's coming out for the matrix as of now are suspension pkgs 18" wheel&tire set, body kits and exhaust system.

if they cameout with some sick cams and headers for the gts that would bump 20-25hp to the car, along with race pistons. your probably looking at 30-35hp. 220hp w/o intake or exhaust.
hmmm..............

[celica gte racing]

cmn guys improved braking helps alot on circuits... maybe much less in drag racing... I mean if ur ricy enough to buy 18's or 19's u gotta buy the big brakes kit, otherwise ur car will look even ricier.

anyways... comn TRD, im waiting for my SC... move it... do you know if its TRD japan who's developing it? or is it trd usa...

[Keyshawn]

Originally posted by TRD Liquid Silver


spoke with my parts manager over here and he basically said the same thing. he spoke to a trd rep about the matrix and what their plans were and also asked about the celica. they're working on cams, valves, headers and pistons for the gts. the only thing that's coming out for the matrix as of now are suspension pkgs 18" wheel&tire set, body kits and exhaust system.

if they cameout with some sick cams and headers for the gts that would bump 20-25hp to the car, along with race pistons. your probably looking at 30-35hp. 220hp w/o intake or exhaust.
hmmm..............

If any of that stuff actually came out, I'd be shocked. I'm daring TRD to surprise me. Hehe...

[GTS LAID]

Originally posted by TRD Liquid Silver


can you imagine how much that would cost? your telling me that you'd put out all that money and drop it into a celica. i love my car, but not enough to spend an obscene amount just so i can hit 13's. i'd rather put my money into something else. how many of us here really could afford spending more than 5k for any f/i kit.. if we were able too then we'd all have the X/S kit...

I've spent 5,600 in mods on my car and it wont go 1 bit faster in a straight line than when i first got it... they were all in suspension and interior mods.

if they came out with the internals i'd find a way to get them... i'm sure i'm not the only one with this contention.

[TRD Liquid Silver]

i know this will seems stupid, but on gran turismo the celica can only get n/a mods and not a f/i unit.. there might be something to think about there.:chuckles:

[TRD Liquid Silver]

Originally posted by Kit99bar
13s NA would be perfect

and people would not expect it at all heehh :)



i second that!!!:applaud:

i think it's better for the car anyway.. think about it, 13's au'natural that would be something.. i really hope they comeout with it cause it sounds so much better than a turbo/kit that has the possibility of exploding.. if i can hit 13's n/a and hit 13's with a low pressure turbo, then i'll go n/a.. plus i'll still have my 6000 lift!!!:AF:

[SmittyVVTLi]

The ITR in GT3 can be modified with a turbo.

[Auto[BoT]_GTS]

I wish they were out now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...................sigh

[2001redgts]

I called Jackson Superchargers about a week ago and asked them if they had any plans to make a supercharger for the Celica. Well, they said they couldn't

[2001redgts]

I am sure it's going to be for the GT and not the GT-S if they do make one though.

[djm221]

Originally posted by jotan82

TRD doesn't know what they are doing...

don't depend on TRD for anything
Not if you own a Tacoma or a Camry. And we know all those buyers of those cars care alot about performance.

How many S/Cs do they actually sell for those cars? I know sales by far outdo the Celica, but there are probably more Celica owners that would buy one compare to those V6ers.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, people in marketing are about as dumb as humans get; and that, apparently, will never change.

[Blue Batmobile]

Since you're Fleet manager there, any truth to the Celica being redesigned for 2004?

Bat

[atehrani]

New cams, pistons, valves....etc. I wonder how competent the dealers will be installing these parts, as it would require almost a rebuild.

Regarding the big brake kit, why put huge ass heavy wheels if you're autocrossing? Why install large heavy brake rotors, when you can get the same thing by getting better pads, brake fluid, steel brake lines and better tires? It will be alot cheaper than $2k.

[TRD Liquid Silver]

Originally posted by Blue Batmobile
Since you're Fleet manager there, any truth to the Celica being redesigned for 2004?

Bat

if you follow toyota's redesign cycle it's typically 5 yrs for their cars. that would mean that a new celica would a appear in 2004 as a 2005. i highly doubt that toyota would release a new celica in that short of a period. it's a safe bet that they'll stretch this body style for a 6 or even a 7yr cycle period. it's not cost effective for them to do a 5yr with the celica. the next celica might not even differ to much from the car were driving. it might share drivetrain parts(engine,tranny,chassis,suspension) with a few revisions and a new body style....

[Blue Batmobile]

I had a 5th gen which only ran from 1990-1993, 4 years....probably didn't sell that well. The 6th gens were ugly, slow and grossly overweight and ran 6 years!

Bat

[TRD Liquid Silver]

Originally posted by atehrani
New cams, pistons, valves....etc. I wonder how competent the dealers will be installing these parts, as it would require almost a rebuild.


i have no doubt about the techs here at KMT.. there's a handful of techs that have already fixed blown motors and replaced the heads, short and long blocks of the car.

if they did comeout with some sick n/a parts i know 3 guys that could install it blind folded. one of the techs was the first guy in cali that had his integra hit 11's 6 years ago.