Got good news... My buddy can copy my turbo setup

[cool2miketlu]

Well, I hope turbo start selling soon because if noone would take this void I would be more than happy to volunteer my car to a buddy of mine. They do make Intake Manifolds, Exhaust Manifolds, Down Pipes for mostly Honda's but they have the ability to copy my kit. If it keeps going like this I may just volunteer my kit to be copied and take small percentage of the profits. It sucks to have to wait so long for a turbo kit and still waiting now, if noone is stepping up with a kit for resale I may just do this for you guys.

[kaioshin]

Sounds promising. It's always good to have options when going F/I. :thumbup:

[Jspec]

i know you've posted numerous times about what your kit consist of. can you give us a quick update of what makes up your kit and power output. and what are we looking at as far as prices for those people that may be interested? thanks!


Jspec

[CelicaLicious]

i'm just curious what you do about carb?

[Bing]

That would rock mike! How long have you been driving with that setup?

BTW, what are the specs on it? Seems like all the attention is going out on your setup now :O


Bing
*Desperatly in need of boost*

[larryd]

More kits is a good thing for everyone but don't say that no one is marketing kits for the GT as there are two kits you can buy right this second...

[cool2miketlu]

Yes but as I recall SF kit you have to wait for him to build them on first come first serve basis, not sure how many he can produce in a week plus he has other projects. David Draper ones I hear people still waiting, you can buy it but have to wait till certain number are met before ordering and selling.
I am just kinda pissed off that everyone promise a kit yet I have yet to see someone that comes on this board who is not anyway associated with the company (being sponsored or used as test cars) to get their kits :(
Now with my setup it would take some time to come up with a kit, but if thinks keep going like the way they are going I would probably come out with a kit for resale faster :(
My setup is not going to be cheap, afterall I got pretty much everything except the internals done. My turbo setup was used by another car before I got it, if add the time this turbo is being runned I would have to say it is running over 3 years. If this is going to happen my setup is copied here, then have it sent to China where my buddy's dad owns a warehouse factory to duplicate the setup. The very first duplicate will be sent back over to have test fitted make sure everything fits before mass produced. I really do not want to do this, but I feel alot of people is sick of waiting as am I being asked about these kits thats coming out.
No this kit will not be CARB approved, if I do do this it would be just something I do to help out both my buddy to make a profit and Celica Community not myself. Though I would take small percentage it would not be that much and I would be out of a car when they are using my setup to copy, it is more of inconvenience than anything. So this post is more of a warning to people who is developing kits, if you guys do not hurry up I will seriously consider my friends offer.

[Bing]

Ok, so how much are you pushing with your current kit? At what PSI?

Dyno's? Damn, it's like i'm posting on the DD thread :gap:

[c2gas]

I`m absolutely with Mike. I was offering a similar thing before like 3 months ago. `That was my previous set up`.
link (http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88341)
Mike if I can help anything let me know. If not I still wish the best things for you. I can get a few things for a very good price. Like the Turbo, Custom IC, Injectors...

Good luck!!!

[cool2miketlu]

I am pushing 7psi when last time I dynoed and I got 223.1HP and 198 torque. But then my setup has a fuel system consist of Supra fuel pump + FPR + 525cc Blitz injectors + Return fuel line + modified fuel rail which may explain a higher HP than base kits at same psi or it could be because my turbo manifold is better designed... Not exactly sure... I am not going to say for sure I am going through with this, but if the market is still open after I finish talking to my buddy as to what to do we may just go ahead and do it. I would say the chances is 25% that we will go through with this, but after about a month or 2 that may change.

[Bing]

That's a really nice setup Mike :O

It would really REALLY rock if this would actually go through.
225whp, makes about 248bhp. Nice numbers and it seems reliable if you drove with this current setup for over 3 years now :)

Nice turbo tooo, spools at 2.5krpm if I can remember old posts on celica.net

How do you plan to get a good A/F ratio? Are you going to run a piggyback ECU?
I had a long chat with c2gas last night. He's a very cool dude and is willing to help me with getting a turbo setup for me.

Ok people... start showing interest so Mike can decide to actually go through with this.
I'll just wait with asking for a price since this ain't even sure.

Much love 4 mike!



Bing

[zcs626]

how much are you looking at to provide this to the community?

[cool2miketlu]

Interest would not really matter right now, it all depends on if my buddy is willing to invest into this venture because I am not going to throw money into this afterall I am already boosted :D He will have to inspect the whole setup before considering, so probably let him check out my car this weekend. Also he will have to check out the demands on celica turbo, which is not really a problem because I told him there is only 3 turbo kits out there 1 is crap from turbo-performance and the other 2 is not widely released yet, so there is still a market even with these competition. However that will have to wait until I talk to him about this, it may not happen if David Draper and Stafford Fabrication really start produce their kits. But will have to wait and see.

[Bing]

Give me your buddies home address.... i'll send the chinese mob to him and brake his legs if he doesn't agree! rawr!

j/k

We'll just have to wait and see then I guess.

[cool2miketlu]

My buddy will have to decide that, but since no research is needed only a straight copy and mass produce and all parts will be fabricated in China you can bet its gonna be pretty cheap. But will not know how much until he actually make a copy and figure out all the cost to this.

[cool2miketlu]

Originally posted by c2gas
I`m absolutely with Mike. I was offering a similar thing before like 3 months ago. `That was my previous set up`.
link (http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88341)
Mike if I can help anything let me know. If not I still wish the best things for you. I can get a few things for a very good price. Like the Turbo, Custom IC, Injectors...

Good luck!!!

Thanks for the offer but you are in Hungry so kinda hard to get parts from ya :chuckles: I am sure I will find someone in So Cal that can supply some of the prefabricated stuff like piggyback, turbo charger, etc :chuckles:

[Sky2king8]

Let's do this

[faultline]

what are you gunna call the Kit??..The "Miketluturbokit"?? or the "2coolturbo"??"chinaboostedkit"?....it would seem to me that it would make sense to do the china fabricating, if we were talking about hundreds of kits, rather than 5's or 10's at a time...ya shoulda got the bug for this after the TP jerseyjay fiasco !I mean , it was reading those old post and losing faith in the wct turbo, that I went to Staffords last january, in farness to them, they are not dragging things too slowly to get things out...you are damned for not having it out yesterday, and damned fo too little testing!...but in your case, i suppose that you can say the kit has been tested for over two years!...I know that I am the shameless Stafford guy...but ..I dont think people will be dissapointed I mean, you saw the kit at the shoot out?...Larryd had it right, you can order these now..even das kit....we ar now on the verge of the Celi boosted world order!

[Bing]

Mike, if this goes through.. i'll help you with deploying it on the internet.

I could make a website for it, design logo's, emblems or whatever you like..... oh well, if you need any aid on computers, just PM me ;)

AZNPride :O

[specblueGT5spd]

hey mike, I know this is off topic in a way, but awhile back you said you knew someone working on a metal intake manifold for the GT. I was just wondering if that is coming through? Since the plastic one gets soft at high levels of boost.

[cool2miketlu]

Yes they guy was working on it but now he is concentrating on ITB (Individual Throttle Body) for the GT-S, so I think its put on the back burner. Now with high boost I am talking about 15+psi is when the intake manifold start getting soft, with normal kits with no internals you do not have to worry about this problem. But if you any higher I would seriously consider getting one made.

I know faultline is a SF kit supporter, and it is a decent kit. I am not saying anything otherwise, but seems to me Mike have too many projects to seriously making celica turbo kits to satisfy the public. Now once the kits is in production how many a week would he make? Have SF start shipping kits out yet? How many Celica kits does he have out now? I still see demand way greater than the supply (which is almost nothing, see more XS kits out there than any other), this is what my buddy is considering going into this venture.
DA Sport is taking orders, but I have yet to see anyone getting it yet. Again taking too long and stuff. My buddy's factory in China also produce other products, do not have to mass produce just Celica Kits it can ship with their other Honda products so no mass amount of production needed. But if there is large demand for it it is possible to satisfy that need as well. Again I have to speak with my buddy from school before I can give definate answer.
Look guys this is not even on the drawing board because we want to get things well thought out before investing into this, and if we do we know that it must be done right and have a kit out ASAP. I may be releasing info before anything is decided but hay, just thought someone would like to know.

[Bing]

Ok, so you want to know if there's still market for a turbo kit on the GT.

I guess you should give us a price indication to see how many are willing to pay for your kit.
It's not i'm dissin you Mike, it's just that you can't really tell if anyone would buy a turbo kit that doesn't have a price set.

What price did you had in mind? I know you had alot of expensive mods, so I just hope it will be payable and sound interesting for the people that want boost.

[RichGT]

good stuff Mike. So how much do you think the kit is going to run for?

[SFpower]

i would put the same priority on the celica kits as i do the 7th gen civic kits but the demand isn't there i sell 10 civics to ever 1 celica and the civic guys are willing to wait for the quality .they wait about 4-5 weeks and they wouldnt have to wait but i can't keep them on the shelf.btw they use the same fuel system . its all about supply and demand mabey they' ll like your kit more than mine

[FuriousBlkGT]

The demand of the Honda Civic is way higher than the Celica's....
So sad.... Family car Vs. Slow Sport Coupe

[AznTwins]

Hey cool2miketlu what are your 1/4 mile times? 10 civic kits to every 1 celica kit, damn there must be alot of people on here just talking about getting a turbo and not really getting it. But when you make a good product of course your not going to be able to fill all the demands at the same time, because the demand is so high. with 1/4 mile times of 13.6 on a civic why wouldnt people buy the SF kit? I wouldn't buy something on just faith and thats why i chose to go with SF. He's gave us the proof that everything works and dyno's and still no one buys. But I guess like everybody else I'm going to have to wait to get my turbo kit too. I ordered my kit August 26th and now its september 26th, but i'm sure it'll be worth the wait.

[cool2miketlu]

The "estimated" price for the copies of kit on my car can not be decided until the guy take a look at my setup, so thats gotta wait till after this weekend. So pricing will have to wait, we may think about just doing a turbo manifold (fit MR-S, Matrix, Vibe, Corolla), intercooler, down pipe, and fuel solution to this (maybe even think about making core type oil cooler, and core type tranny fluid cooler). Everything else customer can purchase themself, and have pipes fabricated by their local shops.

[Bing]

Azntwins,

I've been looking for a turbo kit now, since I live in the Netherlands.... I can't really get something good. :/

As in, we don't have alot of tuningshops here. Just 1 that I know of and I'm not even sure if he can install the kit.(I do know they can tune A/F settings.
And also, I have a guy who's saying that he can install the kit for 1700 bucks :(

I don't really like the idea of alcohol injection. Don't wanna fill my car each 2 or 3 days to have nice boost.

I have the money just waiting for boost since summer, but i'm desperate.
Mike helped me alot with advising and such. Tribute to Mike!


Bing

[AznTwins]

Well Bing, you dont have to get the alcohol injection, its an option. And as for tuning I dont think there is any tuning involved with the SF kit, it's pretty much plug and play.

[cool2miketlu]

Not sure how SF fuel system works, because he has European 6-speed GT what works on U.S. GT may not work for European GT. Asked him to ask Mike Stafford regarding that, not sure if he has or not. Therefore may need some sort of tuning to correspond to Eurpoean 6-speed ECU.
And yes the alcohol injection is an option for SF kit, the kit will work without it.

[TRD HIGH]

Originally posted by SFpower
i would put the same priority on the celica kits as i do the 7th gen civic kits but the demand isn't there i sell 10 civics to ever 1 celica and the civic guys are willing to wait for the quality .they wait about 4-5 weeks and they wouldnt have to wait but i can't keep them on the shelf.btw they use the same fuel system . its all about supply and demand mabey they' ll like your kit more than mine

i guess the civic folks are lining up for turbo kits, they are getting blown away by cavaliers and ford focus, not to mention the honda's look like a$$ even with a body kit. it appears from this comment SF is all about the $$$, but im all about the celica, and if your not here for that then who needs ya'?

[Bing]

I've asked Mike Stafford if it would work on 6 speed celica's, he said it would. But even David Draper said it would work.

I guess I still have to tune it at a dyno shop, since we have 95,98 and 105 octane gas here in Holland :O

And I have yet to see a dyno of SF's kit without the alcohol injection. :/

[SFpower]

the 6 psi dyno was w/out alcohol and if you have 95,98,105 octane feul you don't need it anyway at a 105 octane you could
put 250hp to the ground all day
keep in mind when i dynoed the car i wanted to give real world numbers ,these arn't the results of hours and hours and hours of fine tuning on the dyno to get the car to run on the edge.these numbers are bolt on and drive to the dyno #.with the new programable feul map its only going to run better and the customer can make changes if he realy whants to the system has a dual map and can have one set up for race fuel.

[Bing]

My bad, I don't think it's 105 octane gas. We have Euro 95(95 octane), Euro 98(98 octane) and Shell Pura.... can't figure out what the octane is of Shell Pura :(

Also, they're going to release Shell V power gas.

[Drag'nGT]

Long live the Turbo GT! :thumbup:

[c2gas]

Originally posted by Bing
My bad, I don't think it's 105 octane gas. We have Euro 95(95 octane), Euro 98(98 octane) and Shell Pura.... can't figure out what the octane is of Shell Pura :(

Also, they're going to release Shell V power gas.

Shell v-power 95+
Shell v-power racing 99+

You don`t need alcohol if you have 98 oct.

[faultline]

Originally posted by TRD HIGH
i guess the civic folks are lining up for turbo kits, they are getting blown away by cavaliers and ford focus, not to mention the honda's look like a$$ even with a body kit. it appears from this comment SF is all about the $$$, but im all about the celica, and if your not here for that then who needs ya'?

I believe you have mis judged here. People have implied that there is great demand for turbo kits in the celica community, but Sf has inferred that this is not the case from his vantage point, as he is being out ordered by civic customers at a rate of 10:1.over celica customers..I happen to know that he has a great admiration for the 1zz vvt-i and the 2zz vvtl-i as compared the the honda d17, but he is a business man! what should he do to prove his enthusiasm for the celica communtity?...ya know, there is a commitment to quality in businesses that have "made to order " policies. (hamburgers are at the top of this list!!!)LOL.People waited for 2yrs for the wct kit ! ...a few weeks wait should not mean "Then who needs ya!"..Sheese!

[CelicaLicious]

Originally posted by cool2miketlu
Yes but as I recall SF kit you have to wait for him to build them on first come first serve basis, not sure how many he can produce in a week plus he has other projects. David Draper ones I hear people still waiting, you can buy it but have to wait till certain number are met before ordering and selling.
I am just kinda pissed off that everyone promise a kit yet I have yet to see someone that comes on this board who is not anyway associated with the company (being sponsored or used as test cars) to get their kits :(
Now with my setup it would take some time to come up with a kit, but if thinks keep going like the way they are going I would probably come out with a kit for resale faster :(
My setup is not going to be cheap, afterall I got pretty much everything except the internals done. My turbo setup was used by another car before I got it, if add the time this turbo is being runned I would have to say it is running over 3 years. If this is going to happen my setup is copied here, then have it sent to China where my buddy's dad owns a warehouse factory to duplicate the setup. The very first duplicate will be sent back over to have test fitted make sure everything fits before mass produced. I really do not want to do this, but I feel alot of people is sick of waiting as am I being asked about these kits thats coming out.
No this kit will not be CARB approved, if I do do this it would be just something I do to help out both my buddy to make a profit and Celica Community not myself. Though I would take small percentage it would not be that much and I would be out of a car when they are using my setup to copy, it is more of inconvenience than anything. So this post is more of a warning to people who is developing kits, if you guys do not hurry up I will seriously consider my friends offer.


i know the kit isnt legal.. but i just wanted to know how you pass smog?

[cool2miketlu]

ok my buddy took a look at the turbo manifold and said that its going to be hard to recreate it... not impossible but can not say how much it would cost until he actually made one. All he said if you want exact copy it would be pretty expensive to do. Gonna let him figure things out.

[Bing]

Ok keep us notified. Me and c2gas are trying to figure out the small problems with the greddy e-manage.

[RAWGTS]

O.K. this has been asked many times (several by myself) and never answered - (I don't mean to sound rude, but...) HOW DO YOU GET THE CAR TO PASS SMOG WITH THE TURBO KIT??? This question is for those who have FI on their cars now. I am interested in boosting my car but not if it means I can't get it registered in the future. Anyone willing to say?
RAW

[Bing]

Marry the daughter of the police chief? That might be a solution :O

[cool2miketlu]

Now Celica is a low polution vehicle so most likely they will just request you do a smog check at a station and send it in with your registration fee... So all you gotta do is find a shady.... you get the idea. Note: I do not recommand you doing anything illegal and this is obviously illegal to do. I do not have to do smog yet and I bought mine in december of 1999, my registration came its $246 and no request for smog certificate so I do not have to do smog for 1 more year :)
What sucks is my registration fee was $120 last year its $246 this year :( :( , I am freaking glad Gray Davis is gone and hopefully Arnold will lower the registration fee back to where it is suppose to be :)

[cool2miketlu]

news on this turbo manifold... My friend said that it is probably not worth doing this turbo, so I guess you guys will just have to go for the SF or DASport turbo.