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Celicon
10-09-2003, 05:38 AM
is the 40 hp rating difference merely because of "lift" or is the GT-S more powerful all along the powerband?
XYRCNCP
10-09-2003, 05:50 AM
This has been covered quite a few times, I did a http://www.newcelica.org/forums/images/top_search.gif (http://www.newcelica.org/forums/search.php?s=)

and came up with this
Originally posted by autxr on 9/12/03
differences...

cylinder head
cams
crank
connecting rods
block
pistons
timing gear
oil pump
pil pan
valves
valvetrain
intake manifold
exhaust manifold
"-L" (lift)


Hmmm, looks like the GT and GTS have a different engine.

Scott

So, no the 40hp is not merely because of lift.
vvtlikick
10-09-2003, 06:20 AM
Below 6000rpm, the stock GT and stock GT-S engines have similar performance (nc.org dynos (http://www.newcelica.org/other/dyno/index.htm)), despite their radical design differences. But don't forget that the GT-S has shorter gearing and a little more weight than the GT, which will affect performance.
WillyK
10-09-2003, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by XYRCNCP
This has been covered quite a few times, I did a http://www.newcelica.org/forums/images/top_search.gif (http://www.newcelica.org/forums/search.php?s=)


It's amazing what the search button can do for you.
Celicon
10-09-2003, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by WillyK
It's amazing what the search button can do for you.

i especially like it when others do it for me
JaxCD
10-09-2003, 02:05 PM
GT ownz


:D
GregO
10-09-2003, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by JaxCD
GT ownz


:D

:werd:


The GT also has a more linear power band, and a better torque curve
yellowGTS
10-09-2003, 08:57 PM
GTS also has a better tuned suspension and 4 wheel discs
00 LSM GTS
10-10-2003, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by GregO
:werd:


The GT also has a more linear power band, and a better torque curve
:werd: i've driven my friends GT and it does seem a lil torquier (sp?) in the mid-range rpms
F35-JSF
10-10-2003, 05:31 AM
Lift is where its at.
Aracheon
10-10-2003, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by GregO
:werd:


The GT also has a more linear power band, and a better torque curve

:stupid:
I've driven Greg's GT and I have a GT-S, and I totally agree with this statement. It's not a major difference, obviously, but instead of a powerband which stretches over 8,350RPM where the power is "weighted" at the end (lift), you have a powerband where the power is stretched over a smaller area, and it's not heavily "weighted" as the GT-S' is.
FloWin_Celica
10-10-2003, 01:52 PM
GT rulez
but mine is a 6spd and i got the rear discs too (it's euro spec...)
Blue Bomber
10-10-2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by yellowGTS
GTS also has a better tuned suspensionBoth cars' suspensions are tuned the same. :wtf:
alphasubzero949
10-10-2003, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by yellowGTS
GTS also has a better tuned suspension

You sure about that?
GregO
10-12-2003, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by alphasubzero949
You sure about that?


:werd:... again. Anybody know anything about this? I thought both had the same MacPherson suspension set-up!?!
vvtlikick
10-12-2003, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by GregO
:werd:... again. Anybody know anything about this? I thought both had the same MacPherson suspension set-up!?! According to the parts list (http://www.kocheroni.com/oem), the part numbers for the springs and struts/shocks are different between the GT and the GT-S. That's all I know.

It is same design, but the spring rates and damping might be different.
GregO
10-12-2003, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by vvtlikick
According to the parts list (http://www.kocheroni.com/oem), the part numbers for the springs and struts/shocks are different between the GT and the GT-S. That's all I know.

It is same design, but the spring rates and damping might be different.


Hmm. could that be due to the fact that the GT-S comes stock with rear disc brakes?

:analogy: They also have the TRD exhaust for the GT-S as different #'s (and prices of course :rolleyes: ) but the GT exhausts will fit the GT-S just the same... won't they?