Nissan Sentra V-Spec

[Trance]

haha I am so wishy washy now a days...


They have a nice 6 speed blue sentra at the local nissan dealership, 175hp stock for a couple thousand less than a 5 speed celica GT.


Anyhow, whats the aftermarket look like so far for these cars?

Not much of a sedan fan, but they are really nice looking cars in person.

[JKzzang]

they are pretty nice... but i think they are nothing compared to celicas... in speed... the spec v might be faster then the GT. but no way its faster then GTS. they are pretty cheap but if you have the money... go for the GTS.

[Jnsd]

I sat in the spec v last night. It was a pretty nice car, the shifter was one of the best I've ever felt. Unfortunatly it still felt like a sentra...

[Blastofo]

a couple thousand less?

dont know where ya live, but in ca, they are both almost the same price, about 17k.

spec v will be a little quicker, but i wouldnt get it. the exterior is generally the same..and the red interior is just nasty, i tested it, and the shifter is loose goose. everything about that car seemed to be overrated. from the stereo to the horsepower.

I used to go on nissan websites and they would spout off numbers to me telling me it was going to be faster than a type r and gt-s and they had me convinced. now i look back to that and just laugh!

its aftermarket will be decent. probably the same as ours, since nissan and toyotas are equally ignored!

[Trance]

V-Spec: $18,135 (before taxes and stuff) 175HP
Celica GT: $20,985 (before taxes and stuff) 140HP
Celica GTS: $ 24,545 (before taxes and stuff) 180HP


I dunno, Sentra looks like a good platform for some Skyline conversions.

I'm more of a show scene guy than a racer, but it seems the only thing (without getting under the hood) that the celica beats out a Sentra for is by 5 horsepower and looks. :wiggle:

[Willis5050]

The sentra is also a four door boat in the world of sport compacts. Nissan clearly made the car to look good on paper, but it didn't translate so well in real world performance. It's 0-60 time isn't that great because of an extra shift IIRC. But, the torque is nice and the engine is a lot less peaky than ours. There is rumor of underpowered engines however, as many have been dynoing at about 140 to the wheels. The low redline is dissapointing, as I found I was bumping into it far too often. The extra weight over the celica was apparent in the corners espicially, but it does have the limited slip, which I wish I had for the celi. Interior is striking in a love it or hate it way, but the fit and finish is way below the celica. But for the money it seems like a pretty good buy for someone who wants the convenience of four doors. I am not biased; I had an old SE-R and wanted this one to carry the torch so badly, but it has evolved into a completely different car.

[QWKsilvr808]

someone round here is claiming their Spec V ran a 14.7. Our temperature almost NEVER drops below 60's, and our track sucks ass. I don't wanna tell anyone they're full of shyt because I've never seen the car run personally, but what do you guys think? Possible or impossible? As far as I know the car is stock.

[celica girl]

My friend bought a V-Spec a couple of weeks ago... he ended up paying more than I did for my GT but he got the 'sport package' so I guess that was extra. As soon as the track opens we are going to head down to race a little... I'll let you know how it goes.

[ishido]

Originally posted by Trance
V-Spec: $18,135 (before taxes and stuff) 175HP
Celica GT: $20,985 (before taxes and stuff) 140HP
Celica GTS: $ 24,545 (before taxes and stuff) 180HP


These are factory-claimed flywheel HP numbers. When Sport Compact Car tested this car, they tested 5, I repeat 5 different V-Specs and they came out w/ much much lower wheel HP. They thought Nisson screwed up so that's why they tested several. The numbers from NIssan are a) inflated or b)serious drivetrain losses.

They said it produced no more horsepower (actually slight less) than the previous year's top end model.

[Blastofo]

Did anyone actually pay 20.9 k for their GT??

Sorry man, but i've been to toyota and nissan dealerships, and their invoice prices are almost the same, sticker might be different...but you arent seeing the real deal with sticker prices.

I have that SCC issue too. They really let Nissan have it. And they deserved it. They had this big ad campaign about how badass the spec v was going to be and then it ends up not even being any faster than its predecessor? Thats a total sham.

And if a stock spec v owner claims to run 14.7. I would have to see his timeslip before i'd believe it.

The only good thing about it is the LSD and its torque.

But if you are looking to make a show car. Then I suppose all that won't matter to you.

[racinjason]

That V spec time has to be bs. Now way a car that heavy with that much less hp to the wheels is even going to be getting close to a low 15 let alone a 14.7. I checked on out around christmas. I think they are pretty sweet. Lots of room inside, very nice looks compared to a Celica GT the V spec looks more tricked out. I think the handling would be pretty close but the V spec should beat a GT in the 1/4.

[Kit99bar]

I think the vspecs have been getting 15.3 to 15.1 @ 90 mph
stock

this is on the vspec board

[TitusTheThird]

Look at teh cars sompreesion ratio...very boost friendly, especially with a higher dispalcement engine. Let the aftermarket grow, and Spec-V tailights will be a common thing.

[QWKsilvr808]

Thanks for the info guys. I'm racing a group of Spec Vs tonight at our Raceway here. I'll see how they compare.

[Trance]

HeHe I think I am going to buy the one I have my eye on, its such a nice blue color :burnout:

[SpectraBlueGTS]

haha you guys are funny.. I had alot of problems with syncros in my 6spd GT-S so after fight and fight again with toyota (caused by a clutch that wasn't adjusted correctly) I traded it in on a Spec V. let me tell you the Spec V handles just as well as my GT-S did and it may feel a little heavier.. but it is also deceptive. The car doesn't feel fast but its going fast. the GT-S was faster but not by alot. it will beat a GT. and on a roll or up a hill it will beat the GT-S the car has power no mater where you are in its rev band. and it will beat a 2002 with its lower limiter and not being able to stay in the second cam. and who ever said the interiour had less quailty than the Celica hahaha.. NO WAY the interiour is 5 times the quailty of materials.. the thing doens't get scratched by everything that touches it. and the seats are actually more comfortalbe than the celicas were for long distances.. .. THE Celica has a better top end I will admit that.. totaly. but the low end grunt of the SE-R is amazing. you won't go wrong in owning one.. anyway my 02 cents worth..

Sean
Black Spec V
Traded 00 spectra Blue GT-S

[SpectraBlueGTS]

oh yeah and as for an aftermarket it will have more than the GT-S it will get turbo kits because they can be made easily for it with the lower compression.. NISMO already has kits for it.. and they will be cheaper than the Celicas.. with little upgrading of other parts like the tranny since it is out of the 6 spd Max and the Max has 255 hp.. so the tranny will be able to handle alot more power. so just a thought.. I see it heating up better for the SE-R than the GT-S. I ALSO want to know what the hell toyota was thinking by putting the GT-S engine in the Matrix and giving it a 8300 rpm redline and LOWERING the limiter in the 2002 GT-S DUMB MOVE..

Sean
black Spec V
TRADED 00 Spectra Blue GT-S 6spd

[SmittyVVTLi]

I've seen them in person and I say they're the best looking SE-Rs ever made. I like the big motor, but all that weight up front isn't such a good thing. If I needed a four-door for that price I would get one.

[HilfigerCelica]

Someone actually paid $20k for a Celica GT? Sorry but you got ripped off, unless it had a Action Package.

[scapamouche]

The big motor in the front of the new SE-R weighs LESS THAN THE OLD SR20DE!!!!! Despite the larger displacement.

AS for car weight, it's not that much more than the Celi- 2700 to 2800 lbs.

I am disappointed with the interior colors (red?!?!?).

BTW, I traded in a 1992 SE-R that I loved for the Celi I drive now, I was also hoping for something more...

[Kit99bar]

celica aftermarket is picking up too guys

[gts24]

Agreed, the Celica aftermarket is gunna be plenty large enough. People need to remember that this car has only been out since late 99. I know that's awhile but it took years to develop honda's aftermarket... .we've got all new engines in this car.
For style points, I just think it's gunna be extremely hard for the se-r to compete, it just has no "flare" imo, i like the car alot, and have driven one but I just don't think it stands out from anything else

[Stnicralisk]

"AS for car weight, it's not that much more than the Celi- 2700 to 2800 lbs."


what Celica are you driving that weighs 2700 lbs? you have a matrix confused with a celica?

[SmittyVVTLi]

The new motor weighs less in the new Sentra however it's not as boost friendly as the old one was. There was an article on the new motor in sport compact car. It's going to be a contender, but it will take a little while for it to get there.

[Trance]

No flare?

If you are talking look wise, well I could easily compare its looks to a Subaru Imprezza, and if anything, when the turbo comes out, throw a hood scoop on it and shave the badges I bet it could easily be mistaken for a WRX.

I personally like the looks of the stock body, I can already tell it has good lines for aftermarket aero parts. Looked under the hood, lots of room to work, IMO atleast.

[QWKsilvr808]

ok, the SE-R Spec-V owner who claimed a 14.7 run also claimed a trap of 102mph. I guess he obviously has lied, since the #s simply don't add up, especially with the characteristics of this engine. He didn't want to run against me, but ran a friend of mine and broke down at the end of the track. Apparently some mis-wiring of his A'PEXi Revmeter caused his engine to constantly rev to redline. After resetting his ECU the car ran fine again. Anyone know if this A'PEXi unit allows you to alter the stock revlimit/fuel cut? He told me he was trying to use it to raise his limiter.

I did run another legitimate V-Spec tho, altho the driver was not very seasoned. On his best run he was able to get the jump in 1st, but at the top of that gear I was able to catch up and keep with him thru 2nd, at the end of which I started to pull slightly. In 3rd however my car started to pull away with more authority. Altho I was ahead by only 2mph in the 1/8th, I managed to trap 5mph faster by the 1/4 and .7 secs quicker, or a couple car lengths.

It's definitely quick, but lacks the high rpm authority of the GT-S. Off the line it's damn fast tho.

A side note - I was consistently trapping 3 mph and .2 secs less than usual with this new Nur-Spec exhaust. A definite difference between it and my TRM exhaust. The weather conditions were very similar with that of my last trip to the track too. I noticed quite a difference in how the car felt running the 1/4. :(

[SpectraBlueGTS]

Yep that is exactly what I was saying. an 00 or 01 GT-S will beat a SE-R in the top end and to the 1/4 after having both I can tell you the top end is stronger for the GT-S than it is for the SE-R. but the 02s with the lower limiter will more than likely loose to a Spec V. I knew till the after market kicks up for the Spec it will lose to the older Celicas.. sorry to the newer ones. they should have been like the ones in the Matrix.. TOYOTA SCREWED UP.. anyway

Sean

Black Spec V

Traded Spectra Blue 00 GT-S 6spd

[Chui]

One nice thing about the Spec V is that it is more driveable and in most real world conditions it will be quicker than either GT-S and ITR in my opinion. The tractive effort the car has due to the large displacement [for a four cyl compact car] really helps in day to day maneuvers when you wish to just scoot. Nice car, but definitely different than the sports coupe Celica.

[Kit99bar]

true Chui

torque owns all of us :)

[scapamouche]

Stnicralisk: That's what the SE-R weighs. Its typical Nissan Droopy butt isn't as heavy as you all think. ie, it's 200-300 lb heavier than the 2500 lb GT-S.