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cool2miketlu
02-16-2002, 06:31 PM
Hay thats not nice what you said about us at teamunison.com regarding the FuelCharger magnet.
All I did is post up a new mod ok I do not know exactly what it does but I am not the one who is selling this thing I only posted so that other members can get it and benifit from it. I wanted more people to try this and have enough people testimony regarding wherther this works or not, but you do not have to bash on us. Please note when I posted the "theory" it is a guess not to be taken literally, hay if I know how this thing really works I would be making them right? I am sure no one is taking my theory literally on teamunison board because I said this is just a guess, so you don't have to chew me down on it man. It is ok to be skeptical about this thing, I remember a while back there is that Tornado POS that was being sold and I was thinking this thing could be something like that tornado thing but it turned out that it was not but they have to let me try it out before I become a believer. So there is no way to get many people from being skeptical even if we dyno this product because we will just be accused of fixing the numbers, I do not have to remind you that tornado thing have a dyno sheet and people were skeptical about the Hotshot header dyno when it first came out. So all I ask is people here in So Cal try this thing out, once we have enough testimony to this thing doing things we say (Allow the engine to be more responsive feel more powerful) than maybe someone out of So Cal will want to try and they will recommand to their friends.
Now I did not want to post this info in www.newcelica.org yet because there are alot of skeptics and bashing going on here, but I see keeping from posting here is still getting bashed. What I recommand you do is before you bash someone why don't you try this thing? If you are not in So Cal area see if someone want to split the cost of $40 with ya? If it does not give you more performance by all means I will buy it back from you.
Feel to lock this thread after you read this. Just feel it is unnecessary for bashing going on over here when it is not posted here, especially when I asked people who is interested to try this thing out before buying if it does not work don't buy it. Now is that unreasonable??

unison69
02-16-2002, 07:04 PM
Great post, Mike. It is one thing to be sketical. It is another to be bashful. Judging people without knowing them is stupid. If you think you can go through life being stupid then you're the one who is truly being "arrogant".

GTS LAID
02-16-2002, 11:16 PM
thank you for not posting this somewhere else as it would have caused you great troubles and wouldve gotten our thread locked up.

I'm sorry i'm being hard on you in your theory but i've been asking questions lately on the thread that people are answering when they have no idea whats going on... meanwhile they claim to be full authorities on the subject... I know you didnt make this claim but i just wanted to disppel any kind of reasoning with scientific knowledge before people got too excited. Unfortunately instead of the calming effect that i was hoping for the thread exploded.

I am waiting to see what this thing can do from the dynos. I've also read the two articles out of curiousity and I have to say, dont take this the wrong way, but its made me more of a skeptic.

I wont lock this up for now in cause you or any of the unison members in cali would like to reply to me... just please do it here in a low key fashion cause its already causing trouble in the other thread. If it does start to look like the other thread then i'm going to close it up.

also tell the admins over there to take the maintenance PDFs that I've posted today in the new thread... i know you guys at unison can find those useful.

cool2miketlu
02-17-2002, 03:18 AM
Hay how about this I can offer you a set of these magnets for you to test out. It goes on the area right where the fuel line connects to fuel rail, there is no electrical components near that area. Try it out just 1 day and see if it works if you are afraid of the ecu being fried take it out after testing and return the magnets to me all you spend is the mailing it back to me. You ofcourse are the biggest opponent to this product so I am sure if I can convince you others would start to believe in this, if this product does not give you power than hay keep saying what you've been saying all along. If you do like it and decide to keep it (to get rid of the magneticism line the outside of this magnet with thin lead sheeting or lead mesh) please paypal the money to the shop right away so he does not lose money, I am going to ask the shop to see if they will do this as a favor for me. if you agree on this please email me at unison999@teamunison.com

I am not going to do dyno anymore because everyone wants me to do the base and test dyno, which comes to $150 which is a big investment for both me and the shop if it was that $37.50 like keyshawn offered I would do it just to prove that I am right. But so far this is the best solution I can come up with.

cool2miketlu
02-17-2002, 11:18 AM
ok a buddy of mine in the team notified me of a shop that does dyno runs for $50 I will try that shop first now. This thing have become something thats bigger than my rep, now my team need to protect theirs too because of some bashing going on. We will all chip in on the dyno runs and do test on a celica, not sure about the model yet because to get that cheap run they will give us time thats most convenient to them so we will send a car thats most conveniently located to the shop at the time they designate. So hopefully it will be done soon. If you want to take up the offer I stated in the post above, let me know I think I can convince the guy who sell this thing to let you borrow a set.

GTS LAID
02-17-2002, 11:33 AM
listen I'm gonna post the same thing here as in GD in a seperate thread and in the magnet thread.

I don't think you guys should be doing all this work to prove to these people that these things work. Certainly we've all gone and bought parts that we knew nothing about in terms of performance gains. What should be of concern is the safety of the product. And that could only be demonstrated through long term use. How about you guys use the magnet on your own cars (if you think theres no risk involved) for a little while (month or 2)and see if anything happens. If nothing happens then you can go ahead and initiate the performance testing if you'd like.

As far as I'm concerned, I applaud you guys on keeping your eyes open and attempting to really get something for us celica owners. I don't think that you mike or Unison should worry about its reputation whether the tests dont show anything or show a 5 HP gain.

We've all tested mods that didnt work and the first thing we did was come on the boards and say what the mod is and that it didnt do squat (butterfly, electric S/C, etc.) and no ones reputation was bashed.

If anyone would like to take up anything else with me in terms of Unison's, mike's, or even my reputation then you're more than welcome to do so as long as you keep it to PM.

Again, thanks for looking out for us guys and please keep the info coming across the boards as I know that sometimes I dont have the time to check 5 boards and if important things are being swapped then we can all talk about it.

exboyracer
02-20-2002, 06:22 PM
People have been selling these things since I was 12 or before almost 40 years ago. No one has ever ever been able to prove they work. knock your socks off-- but there is absolutley no science behind it, hasn't been since the fifities isnt there now.