Is it just me or.....?

[DopeCelicaGT]

Is it just me or has interest in the Celica taken a severe decline in the past year. I mean most of the people that were prominent members of the board have now sold the Celicas and gone off to explore new cars. I have noticed, what I think is a severe decline of action on this site during the day, in the past few weeks. Maybe it is just me but I am starting to think I made a mistake on buying the Celica last year. I guess I jumped on the bandwagon 3 years to late. Damn I wish I had bought that S2000 LOL. Nah I love my celica and have tons of money invested in it but it seems to me like there has been a severe decline of interest here lately. I am getting worried that everybody will be leaving this site soon. Well anyway its just something I have kinda noticed the past few weeks that depresses me cause even though a lot of you live on opposite sides of the country, world whatever we have been united into a great community all because of the celica. I dont know a lot of you guys personally but there are a few on here that I feel like I know personally even though I really dont. You guys know who you are. I hate to lose that friendship but people and times change and it looks to me like this site and the interest in this car will not be much in the future. Then again its probably all just me!

:sadpace: :sadwave: :violin: :wtc: :hide: :eatpop:

[buckeye23]

You can only do so much and then you lose interest. While some people like to take things to the extreme, i.e. fiberglassing the interior and what not, most people are not going to dump that kind of change into their car, they have a limit. Once that limit has been reached, time to move on. Most people here have gotten what they wanted out of the car, or in some cases, did not and got tired of the car, and have moved on. With the Evo and STi/WRX coming on strong, people now have access to cars that were previously unaccessable by regular means. I think that kind of attraction also has something to do with it.

[S|Lv3rBu||et]

I can see what you mean man, and I can also understand why some would want to go to another platform. But as for myself, I drive my celica a lot (I average 75 miles a day) and I totally love it. Autocross especially has opened my eyes as to what my car can do. I have a lot of plans for it, yes, but I still love it now. No it wown't be the fastest car, and maybe I could get rid of it and buy an SRT-4 and go faster.... but I would rather hold on to it, and wait for the day that I can make it exactly the car I want it to be. I get closer all the time, and it might take a while... but thats okay with me. As for nc.org, I think it's still going quite strong. Larry has been putting a lot of work into it for the last couple of months and I think it's better than it ever was.

And besides, the cars may change but the community stays the same. I value the peoples opinion and information on this board just as much as they (sometimes) value mine. And I believe that's true regardless of what car they drive.

:thumbup:

[Zensoku]

Its just you. No I feel ya. Most of the top posters/moderators, no longer have their celica, or have a better primary car..... Damn those 350z, wrx, s2000s, evo, and sleepers...

[KrazY-2K]

^^
Well put :)
I still love the Celica. If I had to choose another car in their price range again, I'd go with the Celica. In fact I would of, but 25k was a bit too high, which is what all the dealerships I went to wanted.

[v0idGT]

I think once the turbo kits REALLY get released and installed, there will be some renewed interest in the celica. But yeah, in the first year or two, people had done pretty much everything that they could do, and I think got kind of bored. There's not a lot of breaking celica news to talk about on here, and it gets kinda old. I left for a couple of months... but it's still a really good community here.

[d3fc0n_7]

After upgrading my Celica for the past 3yrs (still going) and entering car shows for the first year ... you do start losing interest. Not in the Celica itself but what products are out there. After a while you start seeing the same products, similar mods, and different brands, just on different cars.

Nothing is that exciting because there are no new products that are coming out. The wide body Celica came out and that was WOW but who has the $$ to follow their footsteps unless you're lucky with sponsors.

The turbo/supercharger are out, or coming out, and then what? There's going to be a point where there's no more mod's that you can do to the Celica. "Where there's a beginning, there's an end."

I'm not saying that I'm tired of my Celica personally ... I can honestly say that I'm not fully happy with all the mod's that I've done to it so far but it's my long-term hobby.

I can't speak for those that has traded in their cars for other models. They may have got to the point that there is nothing left to do on their Celica and wanted a new toy to upgrade.

Just my opinion :wiggle:

[Zensoku]

Yeah for the price of a new car, not that many are as enjoyable to drive as a celica. I mean it has the looks, handles, interior, stereo, lift. I know there are plenty of other cars that may perform in any of those catagories better than the celica, but they lack in other places in my opinion. Too bad there are too many. And its bad stereotypes.

[LaW]

Welcome to last year... :) hehe

[RADR1732]

I've been here for a while and I'm here to stay. I have stayed loyal to the Celica having owned 2 7th Gens. I love my car and I'm not going anywhere. I'm still not sure if I'm going for the 8th Gen though until I know more about it.

Richard

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

Originally posted by LaW
Welcome to last year... :) hehe

:werd:

Relax. The site will be fine. Everything will be fine. :rolleyes:

[F35-JSF]

Originally posted by buckeye23
You can only do so much and then you lose interest. While some people like to take things to the extreme, i.e. fiberglassing the interior and what not, most people are not going to dump that kind of change into their car, they have a limit. Once that limit has been reached, time to move on. Most people here have gotten what they wanted out of the car, or in some cases, did not and got tired of the car, and have moved on. With the Evo and STi/WRX coming on strong, people now have access to cars that were previously unaccessable by regular means. I think that kind of attraction also has something to do with it.

:werd:

[Jusone36]

Originally posted by d3fc0n_7
you do start losing interest. Not in the Celica itself but what products are out there. After a while you start seeing the same products, similar mods, and different brands, just on different cars.

:werd: and not only, people change, people move on, get over it.

[WillyK]

Most people have realized that the Celica is a pos. I only wish I could get rid of mine.

[MarkyMark]

Originally posted by WillyK
Most people have realized that the Celica is a pos. I only wish I could get rid of mine.

well said.

[S|Lv3rBu||et]

Originally posted by WillyK
Most people have realized that I am a pos. I only wish I could get rid of me.

:werd:

[larryd]

I think for everyone that moves onto another car comes another Celica owner who wants to take the car to the max. Its winter time so everything seems slower around this time of year.

[KrazY-2K]

Originally posted by WillyK
Most people have realized that the Celica is a pos. I only wish I could get rid of mine.

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by WillyK
Most people have realized that I need to grow up. I only wish I could be like mommy someday.

That's better. :)

[WillyK]

Originally posted by KrazY-2K
:rolleyes:
That's better. :)

Not everyone is a fanboy like you. Most people see the car for what it really is.

[Bo]

Why do you care if anyone else likes the Celica? Don't make purchasing decisions based on the number of owners on a web board.

I still love my Celica and you can consider me OG. I have a lot of crazy plans for this car. I have a wild idea to cutout the rear trunk and put in an MR2 3SGTE set up. Install a fire wall and inner window and make it Ferrari 360 style. Worse case scenario, the car will be front engined, RWD.

[S|Lv3rBu||et]

Originally posted by GTSnut
I have a wild idea to cutout the rear trunk and put in an MR2 3SGTE set up. Install a fire wall and inner window and make it Ferrari 360 style.

That is a damned cool idea!

[EasyC]

Originally posted by WillyK
Most people have realized that I am a pos. I only wish I could learn to drive mine.

[WillyK]

Originally posted by EasyC


^^This from a punk kid that probably couldn't drive to save his life^^

[EasyC]

hey goin from a 5spd corolla to a GT-S and pulling a 15.0 under my conditions isnt that bad .....

[xspwolf]

heh.. funny... ppl just move on in general - if you love cars, you probably are going to change yours in 3 yrs, there is always something newer, better and more exciting (or at least you will think there is).

;-)

p.s. as for Celi being POS, then WRX or Evo are > POS

[Sharmz]

There willl always be bigger and greater cars. Then you may move onto somethinglike the 350 etc, get onto their websites, and think, again, that u have and awesome car. Really it comes down to change more than anything, people usually want or expect it so what can u do. Only those who truly value the car for what it is and dont work of performance numbers and mods will convince themselves to keep the car.

Hell I sold my 5th gen to another person in my family, just so later when i get more cash and they dont want the car i can take it off em and put in a 3sgte in it :laugh

[00CericaRuss]

Originally posted by WillyK
Most people have realized that the Celica is a pos. I only wish I could get rid of mine.

Originally posted by MarkyMark
well said.

you two really hate your cars.. i find it amusing.. you guys have auto gt or something?

i'm here to stay... i still love my car, it's fairly heavily modded minus custom bodywork/paint and i keep having ideas of what i want to do

I noticed alot of people get bored of their cars when they pay other people to do their work for them. I personally find it to be rewarding when you do everything yourself.. .you keep respect for the car and are a bit more united w/it

as for getting another car, i may pick up a beater so i have somethign to drive when doing big projects on the car/prep for car shows

and the holidays are making things slow too... my preorders are showing it

[LaW]

Originally posted by 00CericaRuss
you two really hate your cars.. i find it amusing.. you guys have auto gt or something?

i'm here to stay... i still love my car, it's fairly heavily modded minus custom bodywork/paint and i keep having ideas of what i want to do

I noticed alot of people get bored of their cars when they pay other people to do their work for them. I personally find it to be rewarding when you do everything yourself.. .you keep respect for the car and are a bit more united w/it

as for getting another car, i may pick up a beater so i have somethign to drive when doing big projects on the car/prep for car shows

and the holidays are making things slow too... my preorders are showing it


I loved my celica. I would still have it had I not had crappy dealings with toyota with problems they would neither acknowledge nor fix.

However the wrx is going to be just as fun as the celica was to tune. It just needs more work to get it to the fun level the celica was however.

[LaW]

Originally posted by xspwolf

p.s. as for Celi being POS, then WRX or Evo are > POS


I completely disagree with that. My wrx is far better built then my celica ever was. Justify that comment. I can back up my reasons for thinking the celica is a POS, I can also come up with a few possible reasons people think the wrx is a POS.... lets hear what you got?

[rddcelica]

im not gonna say i HATED my celica...but it just wasnt my style. it was deifnately fun to drive, but i got bored of it more quickly than any other car ive ever owned. i did all the work on it myself, or with the help of friends for stuff i wasnt too familar with, but im just no longer a fan of sport compacts. not ONE on the market impresses me, not the evo, STI, 350Z, ANYTHING.

ive ALWAYS enjoyed trucks and classic cars. i also think wheeling is an AWESOME sport, IMO more fun the 1/4 mile or auto-X. so ill stick with my jeeps and trucks, and maybe someday ill have my 67' Camaro or 70' Chevelle:drool:

[xspwolf]

Originally posted by LaW
I completely disagree with that. My wrx is far better built then my celica ever was. Justify that comment. I can back up my reasons for thinking the celica is a POS, I can also come up with a few possible reasons people think the wrx is a POS.... lets hear what you got?

Just the fact that I can buy an 1.6 Subaru Impreza with 90 hp, puts me well, well off, in essence it is a built to the same standards as your WRX... just going through few "scoobie" forums and interestingly enough people do seem to have a lots of issues (yes, people in every forum complain but volume seems to be much bigger than Celica). Impreza or Lancer are cheap alternatives to Corolla/Civic, i personally find it amusing how people are willing so much for them but hey, its a big world and everyone has their own ideas...

[WillyK]

Originally posted by 00CericaRuss
you two really hate your cars.. i find it amusing.. you guys have auto gt or something?

I have a 6 speed GTS, probably with all the same mods you have that count...ie performance mods. While certain mods made me despise the car less, I still would like to get rid of it.

[S|Lv3rBu||et]

Originally posted by WillyK
I have a 6 speed GTS, probably with all the same mods you have that count...ie performance mods. While certain mods made me despise the car less, I still would like to get rid of it.

....sucks to be you.

[00CericaRuss]

Originally posted by S|Lv3rBu||et
....sucks to be you.

seriously... why you buy it in the first place then?

[LaW]

Originally posted by xspwolf
Just the fact that I can buy an 1.6 Subaru Impreza with 90 hp, puts me well, well off, in essence it is a built to the same standards as your WRX... just going through few "scoobie" forums and interestingly enough people do seem to have a lots of issues (yes, people in every forum complain but volume seems to be much bigger than Celica). Impreza or Lancer are cheap alternatives to Corolla/Civic, i personally find it amusing how people are willing so much for them but hey, its a big world and everyone has their own ideas...



You obviously have not been on these forums long. There are large volumes of complaints about the celica. In fact everyone I know that owns a celica has something to complain about. Its like that way with every car. Honestly the celica is not worth the price tag anymore. I bought my gt-s for 19k out the door new, that was a deal. Now they are as expensive as I paid for my 03 wrx new and honestly the build quality is far superior in the subaru.


Lets hear some of these "issues" that you seem to read a lot about? The only complaint I have in my wrx is that my driver window squeeks sometimes. I have had it for 6 months and 12k miles so yeah its not very used yet. I am not sticking up for the rex cause I own one, I am coming at this from an honest comparison between both cars that I have owned. I had my celica for 60k+ miles and I still miss/love the car. Hell I could write a book on how much I loved my celica and how much I hated it. Right now I can think of lots of things that dont compare in the wrx but its nothing that cant be fixed with some fun tuning.

[DopeCelicaGT]

I think that every new car out there has some issues. In all honesty there is NOTHING and I mean NOTHING built 100% as well as it used to be. For example, you can go out and buy a brand new PS2 cheaper than you can get an old PS one fixed, if something goes wrong with it, the same holds true in a lot of cases for a lot of different things. Today's society is all about throwing away and moving on which leads to extra pollution and so on, but companies have found that it is simply not cost effective to fix anything anymore. It's sad but very true.
I must say that I can complain about every car on the road, I am very, say, anal when it comes to the sense of things being right. I try to perfect everything that I do, sometimes its a pain in the ass and sometimes its a blessing. You could probably give me a $250,000 Ferrari and I bet you money I could find something that I dont like about it or something that is wrong with it, thats just the way I am, that doesnt mean I would nt be happy with it LOL but I could def. find something about it I didnt like.
One thing I find funny about society today is that most people have this misconception that the higher the price the better its made and vice versa. That statement simply isn't true. I have a freind here in Birmingham, AL that has trained in Germany for Porsche and he has been working for them for 5 years. Now most of you will go,"damn Porsche," thats a nice car and it is but did you know that the Automotive industry did some surveys concerning defective parts with certain auto manufacturers. You know what there results were? They found that out of all the car manufacturers in the world that BMW and Porsche had the most defective parts for those surveyed. For example one of the parts concerned brake assemblies. BMW had 1576 defective brake assemblies for every 45,000 assemblies made. Toyota and Honda ties with 125 defective brake assemblies for every 80,000 automobiles that they made. I am not saying that one is better then the other but I am saying that just because something may be more expensive doesnt necessarily mean that it is a better product than something that is cheaper. I know that this got a little of topic but I had to say it. Some people act as if the Celica is a POS, I will say that it is the least well built Toyota I have ever owned and it has influenced me enough to change my opinion about Toyota to an extent but the Celica is really a far cry from being a POS. Its def. not the best built Yota LOL but its not a POS.

Justin

[LaW]

I guess POS cant really be used to describe the celica has a whole but in individual cases some celicas out their are POS's to their owners :)

[Jersey Jay]

Originally posted by DopeCelicaGT
Is it just me or has interest in the Celica taken a severe decline in the past year. I mean most of the people that were prominent members of the board have now sold the Celicas and gone off to explore new cars. I have noticed, what I think is a severe decline of action on this site during the day, in the past few weeks. Maybe it is just me but I am starting to think I made a mistake on buying the Celica last year. I guess I jumped on the bandwagon 3 years to late. Damn I wish I had bought that S2000 LOL. Nah I love my celica and have tons of money invested in it but it seems to me like there has been a severe decline of interest here lately. I am getting worried that everybody will be leaving this site soon. Well anyway its just something I have kinda noticed the past few weeks that depresses me cause even though a lot of you live on opposite sides of the country, world whatever we have been united into a great community all because of the celica. I dont know a lot of you guys personally but there are a few on here that I feel like I know personally even though I really dont. You guys know who you are. I hate to lose that friendship but people and times change and it looks to me like this site and the interest in this car will not be much in the future. Then again its probably all just me!

:sadpace: :sadwave: :violin: :wtc: :hide: :eatpop: I didn't loose any interest in the Celica just finished what I started out to do with it. BTY I'm still here on the site along with others who have sold their Celicas

[KrazY-2K]

Originally posted by WillyK
Not everyone is a fanboy like you. Most people see the car for what it really is.

Bwahaha... you crack me up. Go back to kindergarden, there'll be a good fight for you there.

[mac340]

I love driving my celica more now the when i bought it 3 years ago, i drive it about 70 miles a day. I like the way it wraps around me and the way it responds to my inputs. Sure there are always faster cars but it is fast enough if you know how to drive it, my son has a 04' srt-4 and it sure is faster but it doesnt have near the feeling of my celica handling wise.

[Brett]

I bought my Celica back in early 2001 (about the time I registered here) I couldn't afford a new one so I took a chance on a used one which happened to be a bought back Celica. $17k otd 4k miles. Despite the numerous problems, and trust me there was a lot, I loved the celica. To this day I would still be owning one, but I had to let it go. It was re-bought back in October 2002.

I think if anyone has a right to complain about the car, it would be me, but I just wont. Its a great car for what its worth, I just happened to get one that had problems. No car company has a perfect record. I think Toyota in general and in general for the celica specifically is a lot lower than most of its compitition.

Like I said, I would still be owning a celica if I could, Infact due to getting a crummy deal on the buy back I wasnt able to purchuse a new one like I had hoped.

The 7th gen Celica is a quick, well handling, well braking, FUN car to have. I can respect that, and wish other people could too. (willyk)

[celicalover]

this thread is so depressing and hopeless...

and for anyone who called the celica a pos and was refurring to the gts 6 speed, please just never post again and go away forever, thanks.

[celicalover]

Originally posted by rddcelica


ive ALWAYS enjoyed trucks and classic cars. i also think wheeling is an AWESOME sport, IMO more fun the 1/4 mile or auto-X. so ill stick with my jeeps and trucks, and maybe someday ill have my 67' Camaro or 70' Chevelle:drool:


I just threw up all over my keyboard...

[LaW]

Originally posted by celicalover
this thread is so depressing and hopeless...

and for anyone who called the celica a pos and was refurring to the gts 6 speed, please just never post again and go away forever, thanks.


I owned a 6spd gt-s for 2+ years. I personally considered my car a POS. Just because it is the "gts 6 speed" does not mean that it is exempt from being classifed as a POS by the owner. I see nothing "depressing" about this thread... its only a car, dont get too emotionally attached.

[WillyK]

Originally posted by 00CericaRuss
seriously... why you buy it in the first place then?

Because in 2000 a Type R or SI couldn't be found anywhere around here.

To clarify some, I loved the car when I first bought it, and even now I like it when it's running fine. I've had so many problems with this piece however that it's caused a lot of hatred towards it and Celica's in general.

[Chiznarles]

i think my celica has had its time.. There was a time when the celica was so unique and new.. and everyone who walked by asked what kind of car it was..

then there was a time when I took it to the track alot (willow springs) and that was fun too.. but a lack of interior and a roll cage wasn't comfortable for my passengers..

then there was a time when I started going all show.. and spent ALOT of money on making it look good.. but I kept getting new dings and dents from loving motorists.

In the end I've spent more than $11K on my car and not too much to show for it.. I'd much rather take that money back and put it down on another car, or into a new bike.. or better yet, invest it into something that will give me a return.. I've grown up a bit in the past 4 years..

[EasyC]

the fact of the matter is not everyone is gonna post threads about how their celica runs fine...so people who are only exposed to the negativity will think negative....i could start a thread and have everyone who hasnt had any big problems post and i bet there would be just as many people.....i personally use my car to its limit EVERY DAY and i have NO PROBLEMS. then again i know how to care for my car toooo.

[WillyK]

Originally posted by EasyC
then again i know how to care for my car toooo.

Most people do know how to care for the car, I do. But you also have to face facts that the car has a weak transmission, weak rods, and serious oiling issues.

So far my biggest complaint has been the transmission. How the hell does a 6th gear blow out? It's certainly not from abuse. Then I've had a few small problems here and there....door trim falling off, belt tensioner (only once thankfully), bad strut bushing, and currently my radiator fan is messed up and I need to get that looked at.

[EasyC]

well maybe it depends on your environment. i live in new england. i mean granted shes only got 47K miles on her, but she drives like new i have even had people from this board drive her....maybe i have a factory freak. but it still doesnt make sense cuz i hit lift atleast twice a day (pending suitable weather....)

[WutARyd]

i've lost two trannies, one motor, an ecu, and a piece of sunroof moulding which couldn't be replaced so the entire sunroof had to be replaced. all this was under warranty, but i would be one pissed off dude if I had to pay for all of it.