Video an RSX-S Misshift..!!! [Archive]

djm221

02-20-2002, 09:30 AM

Damn, that tach needle almost went around to 0RPM.

Man, that was funny. So that is how it feels, huh, the video-guy almost went through the windshield. Hmm, guess Honda designed and build terrible cheap trannies too; or maybe kids that drive those cars are idiots too - I'm going with the second once.

I got to watch this at home so I can hear the sound.

daSchtick

02-20-2002, 09:45 AM

Ouch! During that long 3rd gear wind-up, you just begin to cringe. (Too bad it wasn't a Toyota; at least they'd cover it once.)

evocative

02-20-2002, 09:52 AM

Can someone put it on a different server? Thanks...

OT: I just love these cars...

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/image/McLaren/mf1_m3_3.jpg

djm221

02-20-2002, 10:03 AM

I don't know why you'd love that turd on the right...

evocative

02-20-2002, 10:10 AM

You're right, I'd sell it and live in a house with the same worth.

atehrani

02-20-2002, 10:32 AM

Now that just sucks! :( So yakko, do you think the RSX will have the same number of miss-shifts as the Celica?

Omni

02-20-2002, 10:35 AM

i put it up on my server.. http://www.clanpkt.com/rsxs/kev2.mpeg

PapiChuu

02-20-2002, 10:52 AM

that sucks, sounds like something breaks in the 1-2 shift
thanks omni

RiceBoy Killer

02-20-2002, 10:54 AM

That hurts.

evocative

02-20-2002, 10:54 AM

Thanks, dude.

evocative

02-20-2002, 10:55 AM

Besure to represent Imports if you are in the area guys. We (Imports) never took King of the Hill to date!

Englishtown - March 9th
Toyo Tires Survival Series # 1 Hi tech Import Vs U.S. Muscle

Kit99bar

02-20-2002, 11:02 AM

what was wrong with the shifting on the other gears?

CIN

02-20-2002, 11:20 AM

LOL!!! http://www.ezboard.com/image/emoticons_classic/laugh.gif

Go get him an auto. HAHAHA1!!1!11. Can't stop laughing. Now a 5-2 misshift is one thing but to misshift on an upshift you should not go near a MT. LOLOL

TRD Liquid Silver

02-20-2002, 11:23 AM

another case of a ham-fister going into 4th gear.. just backhanding would prevent that from happening.. i personally don't shift every gear like in the pictures, but the 3rd to 4th shift i do.

www.shortshifter.com/techniques2.htm (http://www.shortshifter.com/techniques2.htm)

PapiChuu

02-20-2002, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by evocative
Besure to represent Imports if you are in the area guys. We (Imports) never took King of the Hill to date!

Englishtown - March 9th
Toyo Tires Survival Series # 1 Hi tech Import Vs U.S. Muscle

until this march 9th :burnout:

SlasherX

02-20-2002, 11:52 AM

im gonna go with kit on this one....cuz i cant see the guy shifting at all, how do you pass judgement?

djm221

02-20-2002, 11:56 AM

He probably meant the shifts were slow. I couldn't hear the video, but it looked like slow shifts based on the tach.

gts24

02-20-2002, 11:58 AM

Here's a screengrab of the misshift... He's easily at 10k rpms... oops

Arghman

02-20-2002, 12:07 PM

Dude that makes me want to cry.

Kappa'sCelica

02-20-2002, 01:00 PM

Damn,,, that sounds bad!!!!! Ouch!!!!!

GTSgoVROOM

02-20-2002, 01:14 PM

A moment of silence please....

larrbear

02-20-2002, 01:17 PM

hmm....where'd you get this vid? haha wonder what they were trying to film..

gts24

02-20-2002, 01:20 PM

You can tell he is obviously hammer shifting it big time, just slamming it into the gears..... the way you shouldn't be shifting a car with an awesome gearbox like that

RiceBoy Killer

02-20-2002, 01:29 PM

Man. Very bad memories. I can't stop watching it.

PapiChuu

02-20-2002, 01:32 PM

i cant stop watchin it either, watched it like 10 times already

Blastofo

02-20-2002, 01:32 PM

Quick and Smooth is the key.

I haven't missed the 1-2 shift in a long time.

And that sucks majorly how WACKURA isn't covering misshifts. That means he's gotta pay 6 grand out of his own pocket? Thats just sad. He will be saving his allowance for a good 5 years.

BoyRacer

02-20-2002, 01:51 PM

**** the shifting sounds right on key to me yo. his 1-2 shift was perfect. he lands 1-2. then shifts into 3rd perfect but slow (no spin), then when he goes to put the sucker into 4th, is gets sucked into 2nd. it wasnt on the upshift!.......i think the clunk sound on the 1-2 shift is the shifter.......my b&m makes some noise like when i shift.

RiceBoy Killer

02-20-2002, 04:45 PM

I just watched it again. Its like I can never get enough of it. My car was mis-shifted at the strip the day before my first year anniversary.

BRAK

02-20-2002, 05:01 PM

UM why is he hammering the gears . I on the other hand never mishifted .. i do it quick but whith a soft touch ... and it just glides to the next gear.I also have the wider 02 gears. ... i think that guy could of went just as fast if he just relaxed and made shure his mind was on his shifts ... not on the camera. It might have been the carmera that made the mishift , tryin to impress the crowd.:p

Keyshawn

02-20-2002, 05:45 PM

I, too am addicted to watching that video.

Guy#1: Oh, what the fuk?!
Guy#2: OH, $HIT!

That's classic.
If I were those guys, I would have burned that tape. Why would those guys post such a boneheaded move on the net?

FriedRice

02-20-2002, 06:21 PM

for all of those who feel its funny.... its sad that he's ruined a fine piece of machinery. thats how i feel about it. even if it is an RSX and those guys are young. a lotta people post videos redline shifting... i've seen a lot celica videos with that :D. anyway RIP RSX.... and honda and toyota didnt build bad tranny's..... bad drivers bought the car.... JMHO. in europe where basically everyone learns how to drive standard, these problems dont come up as much as they do here. honda and toyotas only mistake was selling that tranny to the people here..... JMHO not looking for flames......

CeliMatz

02-20-2002, 06:29 PM

That's true... RSX's have really nice trannies, if anything i'de say better than Celicas

t2000gts

02-20-2002, 06:57 PM

oh man. i was scared (especially during that long 3rd gear, btw, looked slower than a GTS' 3rd), laughing (their reactions), and crying (the needle was pegged at the end of the tach! well over 10000rpm! more like 12000) for the poor car's scream of death.

and what was wrong with his shifting? it was kinda rough, but he got the 1->2 shift to land properly, and from what i heard, it's almost as hard on the Type S as it is on the GTS.

atehrani

02-20-2002, 06:59 PM

I am surprised the car didn't just die after that.

6SPDGTS

02-20-2002, 09:33 PM

My car sounded worse on the 5-2 misshift. They estimated 12000 rpms at the dealer.

djm221

02-20-2002, 09:57 PM

Damn, that was even funnier with the sound. Well, I guess if you want the "race car" feel, you have to rev way up there. It sounded good up there in the 5 digits RPM range at least. Can Mastercard make a "priceless" commercial from this video? Camera - $500, RSX-S - $23,000, - miss-shifting and blowing your engine to 11,000RPM and getting it on camera - priceless.

TheX-Man

02-20-2002, 10:24 PM

I have a 56k, Its downloading right now... seeing that picture, and listening to everyones comments-- I'm already affraid of watching this thing.

djm221

02-20-2002, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by TheX-Man
I have a 56k, Its downloading right now... seeing that picture, and listening to everyones comments-- I'm already affraid of watching this thing.
Afraid of watching it?? Dude, you should laugh your ass off, I know I did.

iDRIVE

02-20-2002, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by TheX-Man
I have a 56k, Its downloading right now... seeing that picture, and listening to everyones comments-- I'm already affraid of watching this thing.

Go get yourself a DSL.

I like it when he said "What the F@ck"... The camera almost hit the dashboard!!!

Remember when Acura people laugh at us when we had mis-shifts. And they said that Toyota dont know what theyre doing (on this one they might be right). And that we dont know how to drive.

Its time for us to laugh back at them... Tides are turning ladies and gent's. Next thing you know aftermarket manufacturer's will turn their back on RS-X, with the same excuse they gave us.

djm221

02-20-2002, 11:02 PM

What I find intriguing is that the RSX is aimed at 25+ yr olds, yet, everyone on ClubRSX.com seems to be about 11. Whoopsidoodles on Honda's part, huh. At least they aren't taking it in the ass like Toyota did with the mis-shifts. Although, because of this stupidity of stupid "boy"-racers, my nect car will still probably be a Toyota. Despite dealership stories, Toyota takes care of their customers, no matter how stupid they are. If I ever get in an accident, it's the manufacturer's fault.

pinoyracer

02-20-2002, 11:59 PM

Dang, I'm just imagining that RSX Comercial Video, u know where that air head guy was driving his RSX and he was shifting his 6-speed. What if he accidentaly miss-shifted it bwahahahahahaha and at the end of the comercial, there is like a microscopic note at the bottom of the screen, it saying that:

"Once u miss-shifted the new RSX-S, Honda/Acura Corporation won't cover it's warranty because you're a sorry and sucky ass driver. Thanks for buying the New RSX-S though!" :thumbup: :wave:

hahahahahaha :chuckles: :rofl: :applaud:

Rhino

02-21-2002, 12:04 AM

did u guys notice that the video in the first post is diff. to the second video in the omni's server?

smak

02-21-2002, 12:31 AM

I never mis shifted but I am definately going to pay more attention to shifting in the future anyway. Video is scarey...

A96HondaAccordCoupeEX

02-21-2002, 12:40 AM

That video was taken by a member off clubrsx. Also, there is nothing wrong with the car. According to the owner. Says a lot about the quality of honda......unlike *cough*toyota*cough.

:P

Toaster

02-21-2002, 12:46 AM

How do you guys from Hoda even find this site and why would you want to?? Cant you just go to your sites and bash our cars, why do you have to come here and do it?? You drive a accord, dont you have any shame?? Is that even a car worth driving?? Its a 96 at that?? what year is this?? 2002!!! go get a real job and save up and buy a car made in this millenium.Loser

NSX_GTR_LM

02-21-2002, 01:12 AM

I hear that toaster, but i still think i might get a 94 nsx next year. I will have the money, but i dunno if i want a car that old. Tough choice, cause its so damn pretty. I dont care what car you have, if you miss shift, you are pushing your luck. Honda Toyota, it doesn't matter.

Speedmaniak

02-21-2002, 01:12 AM

Sux to be him!!

A96HondaAccordCoupeEX

02-21-2002, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by Toaster
How do you guys from Hoda even find this site and why would you want to?? Cant you just go to your sites and bash our cars, why do you have to come here and do it?? You drive a accord, dont you have any shame?? Is that even a car worth driving?? Its a 96 at that?? what year is this?? 2002!!! go get a real job and save up and buy a car made in this millenium.Loser I'm the loser?! Ok. The only loser I see here is YOU. I dont go to sites to bash cars. I like most cars. If i dont like it, I respect it. Reason I signed up for this site, was to do some research on the celica. Know what research is? Guess not. I was interested in a celica earlier last year, but as time went on. The celica just isnt what i'm looking for. I check back ever so often, to see if things may have changed.

Also, not buying a $20,000+ plastic car on wheels makes me a loser? Wow, my car is 6 years old. Must be a POS. Now you can....
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid3/pbcb46d45ff2c380727f6ea4590df640c/fdeb3551.jpg

pinoyracer

02-21-2002, 01:58 AM

That video was taken by a member off clubrsx. Also, there is nothing wrong with the car. According to the owner. Says a lot about the quality of honda......unlike *cough*toyota*cough.

Well, at least Toyota covers the warranty on a Toyota blown up engine not like Acura, you'll have to pay because they won't cover it in their warranty

Toaster

02-21-2002, 02:04 AM

Originally posted by A96HondaAccordCoupeEX
I'm the loser?! Ok. The only loser I see here is YOU. I dont go to sites to bash cars. I like most cars. If i dont like it, I respect it. Reason I signed up for this site, was to do some research on the celica. Know what research is? Guess not. I was interested in a celica earlier last year, but as time went on. The celica just isnt what i'm looking for. I check back ever so often, to see if things may have changed.

Also, not buying a $20,000+ plastic car on wheels makes me a loser? Wow, my car is 6 years old. Must be a POS. Now you can....
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid3/pbcb46d45ff2c380727f6ea4590df640c/fdeb3551.jpg Moron, please do you have any idea what you are talking about?? research, is tht what your comment was ?? please fool, I wish i could just reach through and bithc slap you into reality. your are driving a freakin accord ,prbably got all kids of type r stickers all over it. Fool stick to the honda boards and make us all happy. We bash other cars on this site cause its a celica site. ans usually we dont bash cars, we didnt bash the rsx-s , they were bashing the driver. Damn honda fools!!!

A96HondaAccordCoupeEX

02-21-2002, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by pinoyracer

Well, at least Toyota covers the warranty on a Toyota blown up engine not like Acura, you'll have to pay because they won't cover it in their warranty why should honda, or even toyota pay for driver-error?

Toaster

02-21-2002, 02:13 AM

They shouldn't , but if it was you then you wouldn't be asking this would you??

A96HondaAccordCoupeEX

02-21-2002, 02:20 AM

Originally posted by Blue Lucifer
Do you think he ruined his valves?
Originally posted by Tenchi

I'm pretty sure he did.
Originally posted by Omni

oh yea that things toast.. you didnt see how far the needle exceeded the readings? that was well into the 10k rpm range.

Originally posted by Toaster
Moron, please do you have any idea what you are talking about?? research, is tht what your comment was ?? please fool, I wish i could just reach through and bithc slap you into reality. your are driving a freakin accord ,prbably got all kids of type r stickers all over it. Fool stick to the honda boards and make us all happy. We bash other cars on this site cause its a celica site. ans usually we dont bash cars, we didnt bash the rsx-s , they were bashing the driver. Damn honda fools!!!

1. I was just informing that everything is fine with the car, according to the owner of it. Due to the fact that some said the motor is fawked.

2. Nice job calling me a moron. Look at your dumb post. Learn how to spell. The only person that needs a bitch slap into reality is you. It's obvious you have no idea wtf you're talking about, but the s#it coming out of your a$$.

3. So what? I drive an accord? And? You drive a celica I assume? Big whoopy doo.

And to finish off. I'll let the pictures speak for themselves.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid3/pd6122b1bd8d9c1fc45b2527475b40590/fdeb31c5.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid3/p6f7d756c609b4c58ad7c9c6996a6aa5e/fdeb31c6.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid3/p196419313786d69392ebc24c4690ab1a/fdeb31c3.gif

A96HondaAccordCoupeEX

02-21-2002, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by Toaster
They shouldn't , but if it was you then you wouldn't be asking this would you?? but it's not me, so why would i be asking?

Toaster

02-21-2002, 02:27 AM

It great to see what Washington state produces such intelligence capable of collecting some pictures and changing them with photoshop. Wow, you are really great. Also, yes I have a celica, I bought it new and paid cash for it. Also I have two other cars but the celica is my favorite. Why are you still here?? Go out and get a life, a girlfriend might be nice. might help to relieve you of all that anxiety that seems to have built up. Have a nice night moron and get some sleep, tommorow, maybe you can wake up early and try to find a real job so that you can buy a car made in this decade.Keep hope alive!!

yakkosmurf

02-21-2002, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by atehrani
Now that just sucks! :( So yakko, do you think the RSX will have the same number of miss-shifts as the Celica?
So far the numbers reported on the RSX boards have been fewer. That's far from scientific data though. After driving both cars, I think the RSX transmission is harder to misshift. But that was just my impression. I know people who have misshifted Preludes. We'll see. At least Honda isn't bothering to cover stupidity under warranty. I don't want the cost of misshifts included in the purchase price of the next new Honda I buy (if I go that route).

yakkosmurf

02-21-2002, 06:12 AM

Originally posted by A96HondaAccordCoupeEX
That video was taken by a member off clubrsx. Also, there is nothing wrong with the car. According to the owner. Says a lot about the quality of honda......unlike *cough*toyota*cough.

:P
Hmmmmm.....I don't know if I believe that. The valve springs aren't designed to take that. The RSX engine may have the problem of the piston hitting the valve like the Celica one does, but the valve springs can't take that kind of speed.

yakkosmurf

02-21-2002, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by pinoyracer

Well, at least Toyota covers the warranty on a Toyota blown up engine not like Acura, you'll have to pay because they won't cover it in their warranty
Which is how it should be.... Your fault, you pay.

WillyK

02-21-2002, 06:39 AM

Originally posted by A96HondaAccordCoupeEX
That video was taken by a member off clubrsx. Also, there is nothing wrong with the car. According to the owner. Says a lot about the quality of honda......unlike *cough*toyota*cough.

:P

The guy probably told everybody there isn't anything wrong with it so he didn't seem like such a fool and trying to uphold the Honda=god theory.

*disclaimer* I do not bash on Honda, I like them

Keyshawn

02-21-2002, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by A96HondaAccordCoupeEX
That video was taken by a member off clubrsx. Also, there is nothing wrong with the car. According to the owner. Says a lot about the quality of honda......unlike *cough*toyota*cough.

:P

It's possible that this gentleman doesn't even realize that his engine IS damaged. Then one day when he tries to race it , his engine will sputter and die, and he'll utter those immortal words one more time , "Oh, what the fuk!" To which his trusted companion will then reply," OH, SHIIIT!" once again.

gt2GTS

02-21-2002, 06:54 AM

Anyone notice that the video in the link from the first post has changed

Keyshawn

02-21-2002, 07:03 AM

He changed it to some Japanese drifting video. Fortunately, I saved the original vid on my hard drive.;)

gts24

02-21-2002, 07:10 AM

Originally posted by WillyK

The guy probably told everybody there isn't anything wrong with it so he didn't seem like such a fool and trying to uphold the Honda=god theory.

*disclaimer* I do not bash on Honda, I like them

I second that notion. I'm sure that is exactly what is going on. Others on this site have mis-shifted their Celica and kept going as well.

gts24

02-21-2002, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by djm221
What I find intriguing is that the RSX is aimed at 25+ yr olds, yet, everyone on ClubRSX.com seems to be about 11. Whoopsidoodles on Honda's part, huh. At least they aren't taking it in the ass like Toyota did with the mis-shifts. Although, because of this stupidity of stupid "boy"-racers, my nect car will still probably be a Toyota. Despite dealership stories, Toyota takes care of their customers, no matter how stupid they are. If I ever get in an accident, it's the manufacturer's fault.

You are incorrect sir, the "drivers" on clubrsx are in fact not all 11. They are all 14-16. Get it straight:gap: :wiggle:

yakkosmurf

02-21-2002, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by Keyshawn
He changed it to some Japanese drifting video. Fortunately, I saved the original vid on my hard drive.;)
Figures. What a dummy. Can you post it somewhere so our fellow board members can see it?

TheX-Man

02-21-2002, 10:39 AM

ok everyone was right-- i found myself laughing my ass off. Thats some funny stuff.

Blue Lucifer

02-21-2002, 11:07 AM

You know, that dude probably did screw up his engine and didn't want to look like a fool. If I were in that situation, I wouldn't have distributed that video. But you have to give that guys some balls considering that he released the video of himself screwing up his car. I'm sure none of us would have, and I know I wouldn't have either.

gts24

02-21-2002, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by Blue Lucifer
You know, that dude probably did screw up his engine and didn't want to look like a fool. If I were in that situation, I wouldn't have distributed that video. But you have to give that guys some balls considering that he released the video of himself screwing up his car. I'm sure none of us would have, and I know I wouldn't have either.

I think the biggest thing is , he didn't think that "we" would see it. Ya know?! He probably just told his closest friends and whoops one of those ..close.. friends told too many people and well here we are.

t2000gts

02-21-2002, 11:22 AM

i seriously doubt his car came out unscathed from that. he went well over 9000rpm, the valve springs on the RSX are not made for that kind of abuse.

note: a car with bent valves WILL run...for a while.

reminds me of when nd4spd misshifted, but only to around 9000-10000, his tranny was messed up, and when toyota replaced it, but not touched the engine, the car ran perfectly for a day, then fell apart again until he got toyota to fix the engine too. i guess you could argue honda transmissions are better/tougher. but then who would you be arguing with? a lot of people even here feel that way.

i got a copy of the vid on my server too:

http://subzero.mine.nu/celica/RSX-S_misshift.mpeg

PapiChuu

02-21-2002, 11:50 AM

i know when i blew mine i exploded the clutch and cracked the bell hosing right down the middle, i dont see how this car has no problems after that

A96HondaAccordCoupeEX

02-21-2002, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by Toaster
tommorow, maybe you can wake up early and try to find a real job so that you can buy a car made in this decade.Keep hope alive!! *cough*larry*cough*

STFU, You're making celica owners look bad.

Oh yea, in the video, the owner is the one taping. His friend is driving it. And he said that, after the misshift, the engine sounded fine. If a valve was bent, he would have heard it. Then again, you guys might be right, he's just lying. :dunno:

Chui

02-21-2002, 03:39 PM

Chui

02-21-2002, 03:41 PM

Who knows what the valve lift rpm is for the RS-X? I KNOW it's above 9,500 rpm. Just as it is for the GT-S.

kabal57

02-21-2002, 04:54 PM

God thats one sound I hope I never EVER hear in person.

pinoyracer

02-21-2002, 05:07 PM

So did they changed the link???

Can someone upload both of the videos in Morpheus please :thumbup:

t2000gts

02-21-2002, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by Chui
Who knows what the valve lift rpm is for the RS-X? I KNOW it's above 9,500 rpm. Just as it is for the GT-S.

what's valve 'lift' rpm?

btw, i do think that guy got his car to go 10000+...first of all, he goes into 2nd at over 80mph when 2nd tops out at ~60mph.

and it was a full misshift, he didn't catch it and push the clutch pedal back in immediately or anything.

now, when a few GTS guys did the same kind of misshift, i remember hearing numbers like 11000 and 12000 as for highest rpm recorded by ecu. what do ya think? no way the K20A is gonna take an overrev that high in stride.

REdGsR94

02-21-2002, 06:57 PM

its a possibility that his car is ok..

I did the same thing in my GSR, everything is just fine. Oh yea my RPM's did the same thing. sounds scary! and i ran a at the track yesterday.

But i dont know how them new cars hold out.

larryd

02-23-2002, 11:14 PM

ok.i think they changed the movie or something.. cuz its not a car mis shifting now

gts24

02-23-2002, 11:40 PM

I got it on morpheous/kazaa/whatever right now. do a search and lets get this sucker spread'n like wildfire

Diesel949X

02-25-2002, 12:54 AM

What the hell were they trying to film anyway? The cameraman almost went for the windshield there...but yeah that needle almost made it back to zero...lol

Oo DaRk StAr oO

02-25-2002, 01:07 AM

I see a video but its of an RX-7 racing a Skyline.

Oo DaRk StAr oO

02-25-2002, 01:09 AM

Oh yeah and if i get flamed for callin it an RX-7 vs a Skyline... listen to the dual blow off valves and its clearly a rotary engine sound.

Oo DaRk StAr oO

02-25-2002, 01:14 AM

Never mind guys... the first link is of an RX-7 the second link the RSX-S.

Oo DaRk StAr oO

02-25-2002, 01:14 AM

AND OMG!!! take that car away from them!!!

larryd

02-25-2002, 03:54 AM

right.. that was just ashame.. brought back BAD memories

CelicaNamja79

02-25-2002, 03:04 PM

dang... his needle went over the numbers.....ahhaahhaha

i like the way he said "WTF, oh sheeeeitttttt"

haaaaaaaaaaa

CelicaNamja79

02-25-2002, 03:10 PM

see.. man i own a GT and i've misshifted bad like that couple of times... i had to get my tranny replaced but i dont think the dealer never touched up the engine... they told me that if the valves are bent, then the car would make crazy noise plus it would not run.... well after i hear all these things frum u guys, i think my valves r going really bad... i aint gettin good gas mileage and it is not running smooth at all... i am gonna have to take it into the dealer.......

LoCore

02-25-2002, 03:33 PM

Going through the video slowly, it looks like the tach peaked at a clock position of around 4:30--waaaaaay past the red line. Wow.

A local Toyota mechanic said during some training he heard that some ECUs on misshifted Celicas were showing the engines letting loose at around 13,400 RPMs. Zoom zoom boom.