Want to know what happend to the T3?

[cruzerz545]

Here is what happend. Kinda funny actually
I brought the server over to the ISP and i started to get a little worried about the place when I saw the dirt floors.
Now, I dropped of the server, and ran outside so I could breath. They smoke to much in that place, and it was like 95 degrees in the server room.

Well, everything went to hell from there. Couldnt FTP, couldnt telnet, coudlnt do anything. Site went down the same nite.


So the next morning I tried calling them to give me a reboot, but no one would answer,,,called and called and called, still no answer.
So i drove myself up to the ISP to get the server and bring it back here on my DSL( which is faster then a T1 line), when I arrived to pick up the server, and went inside, no one at front desk. So I walked back into the server room and the dude was falling out of his chair sleeping. I yelled "YO!, HEY YO!" and he still didnt wake up. So I walked out with my server. I should have taken a couple switches! LOL
I actually called 911 because I thought the dude was dead.
He was sleeping hard I guess, so here we are.
On my 1.5 mbit DSL connection. The diference between the two is the DSL runs on copper were a T1 line is an actualy Cat5 connection.

So were basically on a T1 line now.

-z-

[static]

Man, that sucks. So whats the game plan now?

stay on DSL as it runs fast as hell.. and see how it handles..

[cruzerz545]

My DSL connection is faster then a T1 line.
The only diference between the two is one runs off copper phone lines, the other runs off of Cat5 twisted pair.
Both are fast, the DSL is faster, and they are both dedicated.
I have a whole class C block just like a T1.


www.xerosystems.com for web space! :-P
-z-



Originally posted by larryd
stay on DSL as it runs fast as hell.. and see how it handles..

[iMouseGTS]

oooooh, i get it now cruzerz hehe, don't need to ask you on IM anymore...

:D

[00CericaRuss]

just to give you guys a warning, DSL is NOT reliable...
I work for an isp, and when we used to sell DSL, 1/2 of the support calls were dsl customers w/their lines down due to local telco companies, cabling, etc....

just giving you guys a head's up.

[cruzerz545]

Your ISP must suck.
Maybe they should fire you, or hire someone that knows something.



DSL is very stable, I have never had any downtimes, and its faster then any T1.

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Originally posted by 00CericaRuss
just to give you guys a warning, DSL is NOT reliable...
I work for an isp, and when we used to sell DSL, 1/2 of the support calls were dsl customers w/their lines down due to local telco companies, cabling, etc....

just giving you guys a head's up.

[TRD-GT]

so at the end, we stay on youre line???the dsl...or we move back to the t3 line....

or is it that u have a company????dont get it at all...i mean i know what happened when we changed to the t3....didny work at all...so does that mean we are not with that company????and you are making us a favor....and larry is looking for another company???or are we going to stay on youre line???thx:confused:

[cruzerz545]

You'll have to ask larry that.
I am doing him a favor, free web space.



Originally posted by TRD-GT
so at the end, we stay on youre line???the dsl...or we move back to the t3 line....

or is it that u have a company????dont get it at all...i mean i know what happened when we changed to the t3....didny work at all...so does that mean we are not with that company????and you are making us a favor....and larry is looking for another company???or are we going to stay on youre line???thx:confused:

[TRD-GT]

oh ok, i mean thx man....i though u knew:confused: anyways thx a lot;)

so larry:confused:
what is the next step :confused:

by the way u need to stop playing with youre post count:shocked :p

[cruzerz545]

why?
I dont know what larry wants to do. right now I suppose he will stay on my line until he find something faster.

and no, I like palying with my post counts.


Originally posted by TRD-GT
oh ok, i mean thx man....i though u knew:confused: anyways thx a lot;)

so larry:confused:
what is the next step :confused:

by the way u need to stop playing with youre post count:shocked :p

[GTS LAID]

hehehe.. fuinny story cruzerz.... so co-lo turned out to be co reaaall low

[iNteGraz92]

cruzer has a gay sig
:D

[gregRowe]

this is alittle off-topic but I thought a T1 was 24 bonded phone lines? The T is a big group of wires they pull into a building and then there is a box of sorts that have a T1 coming in and an ethernet jack coming out. A T1 has a max bandwidth of 1.5 mega bits per second while some DSL has a max of 3 mega bits per second.

I used to work at an ISP. We had (i thought) 3 T1s. 1 of them was for inet, and the other 2 were incoming phone lines - 24 per T.

This is really a question because I am not 100% sure of the above.

[Impulse]

A T1 has 24 channels each of which are 64k. There aren't physically 24 seperate lines. You specify on the router at each end of the T1 how many channels you want to use whether it be a full T1 at 1.544 Mbps or a fractional T1 at a lower speed.

[gregRowe]

Thanks...makes sense!

[Novus]

T1s and DSL are all copper. Depending on the LEC a T1 will use 1-2 copper pairs for signaling. DSL uses 1 copper pair. The difference is the frequency range on the copper that they use and the electrical encoding on the line. Some LECs in fact use a type of DSL called HDSL for their T1s. DSL can be faster than a T1, but latency is usually lower on the T1s because of the transport protocols involved in DSL. Usually LECs and ISPs use ATM clouds to connect DSL customers to their networks. ATM generally has a higher overhead than the transport protcols neccesary to get a T1 back to the ISP. The latency isn't much but it's there. T1s are also generally better at handling multiple traffic sources usually because the routers for DSL are crap (unless you have a Cisco).

As to downtime, DSL is not a high priority data service like a T1 is. ILECs like SouthWesterBell or Verizon usually have a 24hour turn around on down T1s. DSL is lower on the totem pole for down time. So, if it does go down unless you get a tech at the ILEC that's on the ball you're going to have downtime in the days rather than hours.

Colo isn't cheap if you want a decent provider. Look for multiple peering points, aggregate bandwidth equal to or above an OC12, UPS and Generator backup. Sometimes data centers will have small rooms that do not have full racks that you can get cheaper prices for, ask. We've got one of those rooms here and usually people can get deals to get in that room and not have to buy actual rack space. I'd try to hook you up, but we're in Austin and you'd have to ship the box down here. We have another datacenter in Boston but I don't think they have any space they can get you a deal on. To be honest the colo business is hateing it right now. If you can find a decent datacenter you might be able to talk them down if you do a little advertising for them too.

Oh, I work for http://www.hosting.com . I used to do DSL and T1 provisioning and tech support. Now I'm a Sales Engineer working on lame ass expense reduction projects. I run a couple of game servers here in Austin that push the equivalent bandwidth for this site if it in fact runs 20GB/month of traffic (a lot by the way).

BTW, even Cat5 is copper.