Celica Turbo

[Jackal]

The new issue of super street features a 7th gen Celica that has a turbo kit. I forget the name of the company that makes it but i'm not sure if it was made privately or if there finally is a turbo kit for 7th gen Celica's to buy so I was wondering if anyone might know about it. Im at the point where if they don't make one soon then Im selling it and buying a ford lightning.

- Jackal

[Toaster]

No kit, one-off job and very expensive.

[Kaizer-Souze]

hey jackal look around at your local shops and see if any of them have some connections to xs engineering if they do see what they can do for you if not then call xs up yourself and see what you can do last I heard they would do the kit for anyone who showed up with their car if that isnt possible ask them for another solution you may be surprised what 15 minutes on a phone can get you

P.S. wait if youa re in socal just call them directly and save yourself the trouble of a middleman

[GReddy Celica]

I believe its an HKS turbine

[MattTheTerror]

There is a few turbo celicas around. We have our project gts up and running. Our gtech is telling us 352hp untuned. We went to run some 1/4s by the shop, we couldnt get our stock yoks to hook. We only tried 2 or 3 times so we didnt perfect our launch but we had 13.62 before we let off due to rain. We have some yok A032R's on the way. Once we get the car running right we will be good. We didnt disable vvtli either. EMS is controled through power fc for the time being. Also, the production kit itself will be set for 300hp. No higher unless specified by the customer.
Thanks for reading :)

[komar]

WOW holly shoot that is great news Matt!!!

Kareem

[tirechirp]

Wow, MattZ, it sounds like a totally unbelievable kit you've built. I'm impressed by the numbers. So that's on a stock engine, right? 360hp to the wheels with 11.5:1 compression? Do you have any pictures of the car, the turbo kit, or any of the hardware yet? It sounds impressive, we'd absolutely love to see it. We'll look forward to seeing a dyno curve too, to back up the Gtech claim. Will this be the first MZT product shown to the public?

One more thing, do you leave the vvt disconnected with the turbo to get that incredible top end? I'd like to see a dyno chart for that mod too, if you wouldn't mind. I haven't heard of anyone going fast with it yet.

[MattTheTerror]

VVTLI stays on. This engine is built, we have forged pistons and connecting rods. We are running 11:1 compression on the pistons. I have some old pics of the car when we first got it. Just a stock silver gts. I will get pics and dyno when we get it tuned and running right. The way it is right now its quite rough when boost comes on, and spits a bit of smoke. I think we need to reseat the head gasket, due to it doesnt seam to be seated right. We are using a custom copper head gasket that is virtually indestructable. If we were to disable vvtli we would do custom cams so it kept the lift on 100% of the time. Other wise you just are not tapping the full potential of the 2zzge. Will bring you guys more as it happens. As always glad to answer questions.

[NoCeliYet]

This is great news if this happens. so when could this be expected to be out, and how much.

[MattTheTerror]

The production kit we are hoping for mid-end summer. We want to put it through hell to make sure nothing will go bad down the road. Entry level kit will start around 3-3.5k.

[NoCeliYet]

Do u have like a break down of the kits? like what is included in this entry level kit and what kind of gains are there? this is great news, i should hopefully have some money by end of summer. :wiggle:

[Sirk_2]

WHERE IN THE HELL DID THIS TURBO COME FROM???
And there is actually something in developement for my car?? Well GD...
Matt
How high in the HP rage do you think you can put the GT at?

[MattTheTerror]

We have been developing in our home garages for quite some time just playing around and just recently did we form a company. The entry gts kit will sport 300-325 wheel hp. That includes a turbo, piping, fuel pump, oil lines for turbo, all needed fitings, safc for fuel (premapped to run this kit). This kit will run 6-8psi which will not need a intercooler. Intercooler isnt needed until you are running 10psi +. Although if you decided you want one it would add to cooling efficency adding another good jump in power. Entry level kits like stated above will run around 3-3.5k. We will have custom kits which basically is everything in kit above + whatever needed to run the hp the customer wants. We are also doing entire cars. So you can buy a complete tuned celica gts from us called the "Energie Edition Celica GTS" which has entry level turbo, suspension, stereo upgrades, rim upgrades, body kit if specified by customer ect.

On the gt we are gona be making 200@ wheels. That kit will run around 2k. Again that is entry level.

[MattTheTerror]

We can max out the 1zz engine with forged pistons, connecting rods, crankshaft, resleaved. Blueprinted and balanced, head work, valvetrain ect around 58psi from our calculations. The problem is transmission.. We can hit 450 easy.

[MattTheTerror]

Oh and btw thats 200whp on the gt with stock exhaust. And 300-325whp on gts with stock exhaust. Aftermarket exhaust will open up more power which we have in development ;)

[larryd]

im not doubting you or your turbo but why no pics?? if you guys can afford to build a turbo system for the car and all custom forged internals then I think you can afford a camera and have some pics?? pics are proof.. without pics mods dont exist..sorry

[Jackal]

hmm, this sounds a little fishy, 300-325hp at the wheel ? thats a 145hp increase (stock). And yea, along with larryd, I'd love to see some dyno results as well as some photos...

- Jackal

oh yea, and what has also come across my mind is, if you can push out a 145hp increase on the GT-S, then why only 60hp increase on the GT...

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

Ahhh... i remember the days. Hehehee... just some advice Matt#2 since im Matt#1 hehehe... you can't post things without pics here or you'll get rammed up the @ss. I talked about our GT Turbo a lil too much and basically got flammed off the site. We finally gave pics so it made people feel a bit better. I understand what these people are saying though. It sounds wierd that the engine would handle 300+ hp on internal work that dosent include 9:1 or 8.5:1 pistons. XS has been working on there kit for more than a year now and they have been having major problems with there kits. I gotta agree with Larry on this one; yeah Larry we are agreeing hehehee see there is hope! Also, hows the car man! Insurance gona cover the damage?

Matt Lee

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

Oh yeah Matt... check out your Blueprinting Thread on Spyderchat. They are giving you a real straight and honest facts about blueprinting.

Matt Lee

[larryd]

Originally posted by Oo DaRk StAr oO
I gotta agree with Larry on this one; yeah Larry we are agreeing hehehee see there is hope! Also, hows the spyder man! Insurance gona cover the damage?

Matt Lee

OMG, did hell freeze over :). haha j/k man.. Insurance is done and dealt with thank god.. that ws a nightmare. the GST is great though.. should be over 300hp soon with full suspension, brakes, wheels... all the goodies :)

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

Good to hear. We'll have to race when I get my Turbo Spyder! hehehee...

[Toaster]

Is this turbo for the GTS for real?? Come on, I need to know. I will be in Florida very soon and can stop by your shop. If this is for real , i need some concrete info.

[larryd]

Originally posted by Oo DaRk StAr oO
Good to hear. We'll have to race when I get my Turbo Spyder! hehehee...

what are you getting an MRS?? thatd be nice.. fun car too :)

[tirechirp]

I will admit, my post above was written with some sarcasm.

We all know the rules: NO PICTURES, NO MODS!!!

I've followed Matt Z's posts on Spyderchat and NC.com since the beginning. I really can't understand why he's advertising and hyping up a product that does not and never will exist. It makes no sense. It just confuses and frustrates the Toyota comunity. Turbo rotaries? Ficticious ties to existing shops? Free TRD clutches and LSDs from a dealer who was called and asked, and had never heard of him? 2ZZ swap into his Spyder? Unplugging things to gain 70hp stock? See spyderchat.com and look up mattzeeterror, it's funny reading. Actually, this latest thread is the first instance of him owning a Celica- nice twist.

Case in point. He's claiming 352whp on a GTS, as measured by a G-tech. With 11:1 compression. To hit that number on a GTS engine he'd need around 20psi (if tuned right and intercooled), give or take. Does ANYONE believe that he's making that amount of power untuned? Or running 20psi on 11:1? It's sad how stupid he thinks this community is. His imaginary entry level GTS kit will make 325whp- that would take about 17psi (with intercooler) to accomplish. Matt Z says 6-8psi w/o an intercooler. I need one of those little smiley faces with the BS flag.

Matt Z: it's getting old. It's ok to throw crazy ideas out there every now and then but the constant claims without proof are getting old. Just take it down about 10 notches, you may learn something.

Everyone: sorry for the obvious flame, but Matt Z is disrupting these forums now to the point that the info from legitimate sources is being lost or disputed. Keep in mind he has admitted to having little technical knowledge, and claims to rely on a certified mechanic for all engineering knowledge.

You can trust the above estimations: I have a mechanical engineering degree and work with turbo and NA applications on a daily basis for one of the big 3.

[tirechirp]

Toaster: I'll take bets at 10:1 that you never see that "shop" :)

[MattTheTerror]

Our gts turbo system is real. And soon you will all see :)

[MattTheTerror]

Tirechirp: Its great and all that you wana come in and start crap. Its also great that you work for one of the big 3. I am guessing you are speaking of an american car company? Thats funny because american cars suffer from low performance, crappy gas economy ect. I couldnt care less if you want to talk crap about me, but stay away from post concerning my company. GTS is owned by my buisness partner, I persoanlly own a spyder. Also your claim that to make 300hp would take 17psi sorta makes you a fool. It takes 8psi to put 293hp @ wheels on stock engine. Our car is putting down 352@wheels but we have the engine built up, lightened forged pistons ect. I am not here in anyway to flame or to get in an arguement. You try to come here and make me look bad, but in turn you make your self look bad. Have a nice day sir.

[Jackal]

Originally posted by MattTheTerror
You try to come here and make me look bad, but in turn you make your self look bad. Have a nice day sir.

ah, news for ya matt, you came here and made yourself look bad. chirp had nothing to do with it. Oh yea, and as for the willy wonka line, good day to you sir. hah

- Jackal:closed:

[tirechirp]

American cars aren't high tech in general, granted. Engine design is engine design, the laws of physics still apply. You'd know that if you were an engineer.

And don't misquote- I said 325 WHEEL hp (=383 flywheel hp) would take 17psi. If you dont know the difference between wheel horsepower and flywheel horsepower I think we're in bigger trouble than I thought. Your claim for 383 flywheel hp was 6-8psi, which is ludicrous.

You will never offer any kind of proof that you are anything but a 16yr old with a stock Spyder with a smashed front end. This thread will die off and you'll be dropping an NSX engine with a 200hp shot of nitrous in your Spyder next week. These posts are really getting old and making us all stupider for reading them.

BTW, thanks Jackal. Oompah-loompah!

[Sirk_2]

I am extreamly confused Matt # 2. Its obvious that the GT can handle a much larger turbo than the GT-S due to the lower compression ratio. Why is that you guys would only settle for a 60hp increase, yet the GT-S shooting up 145hp?? That would be like a GT-S owner getting the XS-engineering kit...It just doesn't seem worth it...True, 2G's for a turbo doesn't sound bad, bum I'm trying to get 250hp at the wheels...thats been my goal ever since i got this damn GT. Anyway, if you got some feed back for this post, bold it out...I wanna be able to read it later on..

[larryd]

so whats the dilly on this turbo??

[veilside02celi]

any kinda of ETA on the GT turbo Matt? my friend John was telling me about you from spyderchat, he has the Veilside MR2 Spyder Widebody here in Cincinnati. I'd be more than interested in the turbo as well... send me some info! :)

[tirechirp]

I find it kind of funny that the day after I sarcasticly made the NSX remark above, MattZ showed up in the Spyder forum saying he was going to trade his wrecked Spyder for a buddy's NSX.

Another recent revelation is that you don't need a dyno to tune in an aftermarket ECU- you can just rev your engine in your driveway, it does the same thing!

Anyone else hear circus music?

Ok, I've had my say. You've been a great audience, don't forget to tip your waitresses.

-chirp

[F22-Raptor]

Finally up to three people from Cinci.....

[jotan82]

i'm not doubting anyone... i just wanna see pix...

persuade me to keep my car

[BoyRacer]

I like Tirechirp..............hehe he's witty. I think the numbers sound a little strange, and no intercooler with that much heat and hp sounds ludicrisp as mike tyson says.....Let me just say, i think the majority of us are on the same wavelength, and even know i have a big mouth.........i am gonna shut the hell up. ok i should go now

[oldster]

Originally posted by MattTheTerror
If we were to disable vvtli we would do custom cams so it kept the lift on 100% of the time. Other wise you just are not tapping the full potential of the 2zzge. Will bring you guys more as it happens. As always glad to answer questions.

If you disable VVTL-I you disable lift period, custom cams will do nothing to change that since you will not be switching cams. With it disabled what options will you have for cam timing? If you go to custom cams to approximate the lift of the second cam wouldn't that have a severe impact on the streetability of the engine? :confused:

[BoyRacer]

Originally posted by oldster


If you disable VVTL-I you disable lift period, custom cams will do nothing to change that since you will not be switching cams. With it disabled what options will you have for cam timing? If you go to custom cams to approximate the lift of the second cam wouldn't that have a severe impact on the streetability of the engine? :confused:


OOOOOH and the Uppercut Ladies and Gentelmen.:popcorn:

[veilside02celi]

Originally posted by F22-Raptor
Finally up to three people from Cinci.....

haha sweet...what part of town are you in? i'm over in western hills

[Sirk_2]

If you dissable the "Lifting" on a GTS....whalla you have a GT with a useless 6 speed

[Tony01Gts]

Well hey Matt Z where in FL you at I'm near Tampa. Lets meet up and I'll check out your turbo Celi and we can settle this once and for all.

[Pribilof]

No kidding. I'd love to see this thing first hand. I'll be in Miami all next week if thats close to you.

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

OOO I WANT SOME POPCORN!!!! Its about the get interesting.

[BoyRacer]

Well..........its even more interesting than you think it is. boys and girls. I live in the same city as he does!

[Pribilof]

Well there ya go..... Go see how fast this thing is for us. :wiggle:

[tirechirp]

Ha! I just wanted pictures. I guess we'll have Boyracer's first hand account of how killer that turbo GTS is within a few days, right? Right? Hello? Anyone?

And the old rule of "No pics, no mods" proves itself once again.

[Kaizer-Souze]

well its been about two weeks since he replied I am taking into consideration that the site was down however I would finally say now that this turbo is dead and will not come back to life well its good to get the bs aside unless anyone can correct me

well matt the chalenge has been handed can you come through personally I hope so but I dont expect much

[F22-Raptor]

Yo Veilside-I am in East Walnut Hills/Hyde Park.

[phillytec]

And still no pic's

[BoyRacer]

hehe. well i said that for a purpose. Just to see if i would get a reponce..................... no responce, and notice he stopped posting?. There is more, but i am going to close my mouth.

[MattTheTerror]

Ok, didnt know site was back up again. Just got a email for replys on this post. I will post pictures when the kit is 100% complete. In the gaming industry that you dont post pictures until it is complete in all of its glory, other wise wrong perceptions can be made. However there have been a few celicas locally who have seen the kit. I am not sure if any of them use this board tho.

[Tony01Gts]

So uh when will you have pictures then?

[Keyshawn]

Personally, I'll stay skeptical until I see some proof. I was just totally given a bad impression of this Matt guy from that whole fiasco about using another company's name (No Limit Enterprises) without permission to promote this project. That and the fact that there are absolutely no pics of anything real associated with all this. I'd rather see pics of an incomplete kit than no pics at all. Anyone else agree?

[Keyshawn]

Originally posted by MattTheTerror
In the gaming industry that you dont post pictures until it is complete in all of its glory, other wise wrong perceptions can be made. However there have been a few celicas locally who have seen the kit. I am not sure if any of them use this board tho.

Well the perception you're encouraging right now is that there is NO turbo kit. I'm pretty damn sure that having pics of a partially-complete kit would be an improvement over that.

[larryd]

or maybe answers to the insane claims of the power that can be made

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

Matt... I really want to know. Ive been bustin my balls against the wall with all the fellows at WCToyota for almost 5 months on this. Its not impossible... well yes it is. You could run that set up for 10 minutes and the pistons would shoot through the hood. Now Turbo GTS, head work, lower comp pistons, after market exhaust, weight reduction, lift intact, 1 bar+ boost... then we'll see 300+ hp!

[CIN]

The 1ZZ can go to 400hp+ if build up properly.

[oldster]

Originally posted by CIN
The 1ZZ can go to 400hp+ if build up properly.

Is that 400+ streetable, reliable hp? Have you done this, if not how do you know?

[Fourgig]

Originally posted by oldster


Is that 400+ streetable, reliable hp? Have you done this, if not how do you know?

Oldster, it's called "pulling a number outta your ass."

[BoyRacer]

yes......pulling a number out of your ass again......notice matt is gone again too.....mysteriously

[phillytec]

Grab your crak here . Get yo crack here

[GTS LAID]

400 hp out of a GT is no problem... mustang GT... and i still dont consider the mustangs "horses" streetable... even when stock.. hehe..

GTS sure.. 400+ no problem... visit your local dodge dealer and he'll hook you right up.

as for the celica... the problem that most people dont recognize when talking about this stuff (old skeptics aside) is that if you'd like to put stress on a system, then that system will have to maintain the pressure without showing signs of strain for long periods of time to be considered reliable.

neither GT nor GTS can get the numbers you'd like with the stock engine internals... with different internals i think it would be possible; as well as most likely probable that you'd be able to drop these numbers... anything over 350 though is silly and unnecessary... with appropriate weight reductions around the car you can get 200-250 lbs of sprung translational inertia off the car's weight. thats running in a 2500lb car (including driver) at 350hp... thats an insane power to weight ratio... remember the supras is around 11 lb/hp this would be on the order of 7 lb/hp, thats a 35% advantage on a TT stock supra.

so where are the holes in the logic: first getting that much work done on the car would make the overall cost similar if not greater than that of a supra, and second traction loss would be something of a huge problem that becomes an exponential pain in the ass to deal with on the FWD car as of course the initial launch will cause the car to rotate on its center of mass onto the rear non-drive wheels... giving you an inherent dis-advantage.

solve those 2 problems reliably and you've got a winner..

[sneakychaos]

No Limit has some ties to a company called Sixth Gear Online. They run f*cked up group buys on groupbuycenter, and then take over a month to send you your stuff. Call for a refund and the stupid asses don't know how to give one. But they know how to make a charge against your card. Not only that, but they have almost a completely negative rating on GBC... see this link.

http://www.groupbuycenter.com/ratings.asp?memberid=10802


What a waste of time... I wouldn't buy a thing from these guys in the future even if I was using someone elses money.

[CIN]

Originally posted by Fourgig


Oldster, it's called "pulling a number outta your ass."

Hey kid chill out. ;)

Who told you that the 400BHP whould be on stock internals?

As for streetable I do not know.

Go to spyder chat and there is are a couple of people going with beefed up internals and T3/T4 or T4. One of them is aiming for about 450BHP. And I think that he wants to drive his car on the road. ;)

There you have it an 11 sec spyder maybe even 10s. :)

[oldster]

Originally posted by CIN


Hey kid chill out. ;)

Who told you that the 400BHP whould be on stock internals?

As for streetable I do not know.

Go to spyder chat and there is are a couple of people going with beefed up internals and T3/T4 or T4. One of them is aiming for about 450BHP. And I think that he wants to drive his car on the road. ;)

There you have it an 11 sec spyder maybe even 10s. :)

So the short of it is that you can't answer my original question. If it has been done you don't know how or by who, period.

[Fourgig]

Originally posted by CIN


Hey kid chill out. ;)

Who told you that the 400BHP whould be on stock internals?

As for streetable I do not know.

Go to spyder chat and there is are a couple of people going with beefed up internals and T3/T4 or T4. One of them is aiming for about 450BHP. And I think that he wants to drive his car on the road. ;)

There you have it an 11 sec spyder maybe even 10s. :)

Er...kid? I think you're the one that's a kid. Making things up doesn't impress anyone. Point us to some links that back up your claims.

How do you know that the 1ZZ can make 400+HP? Have you done it? Do you know someone that's done it? I think not. So you're pulling numbers out of your ass, little boy. PERIOD.

[GTS LAID]

Fourgig's not takin sh!t from anyone... way to go... first husbands club... *yes this includes you too old man*

[CIN]

Well actually I am not old ;)

You guys take everyting too seriously. Anyway I will search spyderchat since the old links do not work due to the software change.

Anyway there are a couple of guys there who are aiming for 350+ hp. All of those are custom jobs.

I will try to find the links and post them here. Wait a min please. ;)

[larryd]

but thats not on a stock bottom end..

[oldster]

Originally posted by CIN
Well actually I am not old ;)

You guys take everyting too seriously. Anyway I will search spyderchat since the old links do not work due to the software change.

Anyway there are a couple of guys there who are aiming for 350+ hp. All of those are custom jobs.

I will try to find the links and post them here. Wait a min please. ;)

Don't think Laid was referring to you with the old comment.

We do take our performance seriously, just a weird little quirk that we have here. examples:

Not Acceptable: "The 1ZZ can go to 400hp+ if build up properly."

Acceptable: Spyderboy over on spider chat is getting 400HP from his 1ZZ by doing X to his motor.

JMHO, "Anyway there are a couple of guys there who are aiming for 350+ hp. All of those are custom jobs. " is a far cry from your original statement and still has nothing quantifiable to illustrate how it was accomplished. After hearing so many claims about performance we would like to see something to back them up.

[CIN]

K guys. Just learning how things work here ;)

Anyway here is a nice thread with some info. The 400+ motor is by MVA. And the owner of the car is KAZ over at spyderchat. Try to e-mail him about the details. He should reveal everything in a short time once his car is ready from the 3rd turbo experience. :)

http://www.spyderchat.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=149931&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[dragonfrog]

hell, when may comes, i'll drive down there with my digicam and take pics if he's willing.

[CheezeFrog]

FWIW, st00pid here in Houston is ready and willing to try prototyping a turbo system for a Celica GT-S. For those of you who don't know who he is, he's the one who built and drove that Civic hatch (10.9@132mph) that beat the Viper in that video that's floating around the net. He's also the one who can take a bone stock Integra 1.8L non-VTEC motor and run 19psi on pump fuel through it, and make it run 11.8@119mph. Unfortunately nobody wants to step up with the cash it takes to do such a project... :( Granted, after everything is said and done, $5-7k is a lot of money for parts and R&D. But hey, somebody has to take one for the team.

[MilinGTS]

i'd be willing...ididn't think jason was still willing to do it tho.
not for under 10 grand anyway...

i guess i gotta go talk to him again....

sh1t my car is kinda down right now anyway...

[CheezeFrog]

Probably depends when you ask him. Right now I believe he's up to his neck in project cars at the moment. Doesn't hurt to ask though :)

[fastwhipyo]

who the hell would want 400hp.....the damn car only weighs 2500lbs, if you can get 300hp then you already have too much for the FWD to handle, your just gonna spin the **** out of first second and even third w/o LSD and some slicks. even with the LSD and the slicks, a 300hp turbo car is gonna make good turque down low too...so wheel spin is still gonna be a problem. Seriosly even if the engine could handle 400hp the car would be just as fast in hte 1/4 with 300 i bet....unless your a redic driver.My guess is that w/ LSD and drag radials and 300hp your gonna see 12's in the 1/4...thats enough to take out some Z06's and maybe a viper or two on certain occasions

[HisFrogness]

[i] traction loss would be something of a huge problem that becomes an exponential pain in the ass to deal with on the FWD car as of course the initial launch will cause the car to rotate on its center of mass onto the rear non-drive wheels... giving you an inherent dis-advantage.

solve those 2 problems reliably and you've got a winner.. [/B]

There has to be a way to get an All-Wheel drive tranny to work with a 2zz.

[fastwhipyo]

you could rig up a ghetto motorcycle chain with two sprockets (one sticking out of each wheel) and run the chain to the back wheels....HOLD UP...that was supposed to be funny....but do you think could rig something like that up with some cheapo 15 inch wheels just for when you take it to the drag strip...i mean.. all you would need is a heavy duty morcycle chain lengthend of course and tighten the suspension so when the back dips down and the front lifts up it doesnt break the chain....haha maybe ill try it on the old sentra...and if your worried about too much HP breaking it...just rig up two on each side...that should hold it...you can even order titanium chains that arent super expensive for super bikes...those must be pretty sturdy...TRUTHFULLY...DO YOU THINK IT CAN BE DONE?

[fastwhipyo]

haha, you would have to make sure you keep the wheel real straight though haha...this would be the funnies, most jerry rigged thing ever...someone needs to do this just for kicks on an old car

[larryd]

yeah.. something more and more people pay less and less attention to.. on FWD its not about how much power you can make..its about how you can get that power to the ground and not spin

[MarcMichaud]

there making this in central FL. I want to see this I'm only an hour away.

Marc

[CIN]

Originally posted by larryd
yeah.. something more and more people pay less and less attention to.. on FWD its not about how much power you can make..its about how you can get that power to the ground and not spin

Correct. 400bhp in a FWD is useless without traction control. And there will be some lag also because of the Huge T4.

OTOH the car in question is an MK3 MR2 and that is MR which has much better traction.

It is even lighter at about 2200lbs. Do you imagine the potential of that car in the 1/4 mile? Would be stunning. :)

[larryd]

i can imagine.. thats the scary part :)

[CIN]

There is another guy there that is aiming for 10s. And I believe he will do it. Those spyder people are basically the test mules. Shortly we will have some info on how strong the 1ZZ really is. 400+ hp from the 1.8L 1ZZ is mighty impressive IMO. :)

[CIN]

Nice Eclipse you got there larry. :)

Mind giving some specs? It that the 4WD version with the EVO3 engine?

[larryd]

haha.. no. its the FWD version with the stock but not so stock 4G63 :)

[CIN]

Cool thanks :)

[TwiZtiD440]

Something I'm not understanding, why are you running 11:1 compression, and running 58 pounds of boost? What in Gods name have you done to the block? Reinforced it with concrete =P . I'm not doubting you, but I've been designing a similar system, only design flaws of that amount of boost is the bottom end, between heavy H beam rods and forged aluminum pistons, molly rings and 8:1 that SHOULD counter any problems with moving parts, crank I think will hold, but I'll have it magnafluxed just to be safe. Only problem is the block, what have you done to reinforce it?

[RiCeY GtS]

krazy! turbo kit!!