West Covina Turbo or NOS???

[Drag'nGT]

Okay. I've been talking to Karim and want everyone else's opinion.

Should I get a CAI, MB Autosport header, HKS exhaust and all the fuel management things and run a 50-75 shot NOS? Or get the West Covina turbo kit?

Here's part of my problem. I look too much like every other Celica in town and when I get the new GT I want to put a Blitz kit on it, MB hood scoop, new paint job and other appearance enhancers. That way I stand out.

See. I know that the turbo is safer to use. But I know people who blow their motor because they use it too much. Is it that they're runing their PSI too high while daily driving? Or is it safer to run NOS? I'd rather throw alot of air into my car rather than a chemical. Ya know?

One other thing I could do is go for look now and save up over the summer to get the turbo.

Can you guys help? I'm at a cross road and once I pick a path I'm not going back.

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

NOS isn't dangerous. Just people who stick a 100 shot on a GT. Get all the NA stuff... get a 50 shot NOS System, then save your MCDonalds change up and get a Turbo when they are available in 50 years hehehee j/p... Save your money till like next march get the Lower Compression pistons and a turbo. You'd be one Kick @ss Celica!!!

VTECH= Very Timid and Exhausted Civic Hatchback http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Karim]

Originally posted by Oo DaRk StAr oO:
NOS isn't dangerous. Just people who stick a 100 shot on a GT.

sorry bud it's been proven that the GT manual can handle 100 shot without a problem with that said just don't try to run anymore hehe

Karim



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ok i really have a,
2000 celica liquid silver auto gt (jeez i know i've heard it all, but hey what can i say my parents surprised me with it and this car is a girl magnet in high school)
Mods:
GOLD SHOE!
Injen CAI
APC indiglo gauges
Piaa 002x aux. driving lights
rear celica fill in blue
xenon blubs
panasonic day/night headunit
and last but not least a S2000 Antenna

"this car is powered by teriyaki sticks"

how do you know its not dangerous..how was it tested.. how many times was it run.. etc etc etc..

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[Drag'nGT]

Well I know first hand it's dangerous. My friend's Si was in the shop all last week being fixed because he ran his NOS too long.

I'd rather go turbo but I'm leaning to NOS for right now. That way I can go fast and look fast. I want to push the 250-300hp mark.

But what do I need to make shure I run it safely?

[Xracer729]

i think a turbo might be a wizer choice... cause if u get NOS theres a risk of fryin ur engine and u have to keep refillin the bottels and u will eventually spend more on the nos and bottels than a turbo and nos only gives u a bust of speed and power u should just put jet fuel in ur car at least that will last longer and it is cheaper... go turbo that gives u lasting speed and power <IMG SRC="http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smilies/cwm13.gif" border=0>

[CgCelica]

don't forget the wonderful BOV sound !<IMG SRC="http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smilies/cwm41.gif" border=0>

<FONT COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE="1" FACE="Verdana, Arial">This message has been edited by CgCelica on November 04, 2001 at 06:36 PM</font>

why does everyone assume that nitrous will fry your engine and turbo wont?? they are both f/i which work on the same basic terms.. if not run correctly either could cause massive damage..

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[Qwertop]

I'd go with the turbo. NOS is only good for the drag strip.

[Orion Pax]

Go turbo. IIRC, nitrous is no good for taking turns.

-OP

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

N20 (Nitrous) is NOT DANGEROUS!!!

And the reason your friends car blew up was because it was a Cr@ppy Si!!!!

VTECH= Very Timid Civic Hatchback

[X-EVIL-X]

i would rather get a turbo because its always on.
you get lots of torque from a turbo so it will make the car more fun cruising around town.
the bov is mean sounding also.
plus you can have that sweet looking intercooler in front.
turbo no doubt

on all the time isnt necesarily a good thing..it means constant abuse on your engine as well as worse gas mileage..just an FYI http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smile.gif

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[X-EVIL-X]

i realize that.
what would you rather have though larry?

id rather have turbo.. but what everyone needs to realize is its not just like you can bolt it on and be done.. its just as risky as running nitrous..

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[Karim]

that's the great thing about nitrous, it's there when you need it and not putting constant strain on your engine and killing your gas milage. If it's ran right it's safe, but anything is dangerous in the hands of the wrong user. Plus don't expect to handling to be the same with a turbo either, the extra torque is going cause the car to pull it self much different in the turns and a lot of wheel slipping if you don't have sticky enough tires and with a turbo your going to want an LSD too. Like I said nitrous is only there for WHEN YOU NEED IT! but remember you get what you pay for so don't try to cheap out when buying stuff. Nitrous is your best bang for the buck and it will also keeps most of the original characterisics of your car ala realiability and handling. Plus if you ever have problem with your car and take it into the dealer what are they going to say when they see a turbo under the hood woah there goes absolutly every part of you warrenty, at least with nitrous it can be removed a lot easier for dealer trips.

Karim

[X-EVIL-X]

how much does it $cost$ to get the entire nos system up and running?
wouldn't you rather put that money towards a turbo

nitrous setup 800 bucks.. install (free)

turbo setup 6000 bucks.. install included

you tell me..

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[DJ_GLITCH_OS]

Why not go with both????<IMG SRC="http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smilies/cwm11.gif" border=0>
You can right???, I honestly am not sure on this, but I do baleave you can.
Get the best of both worlds

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Custom Exterior Red Neon mood lights,
Red Bolt Caps (That

actually i plan on using both eventually.. but the nitrous will be used to feed the intercooler..

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[tagurit]

ok here we go:
Nos is not dangerous. Everyone thinks that and its hard to talk people out of it b/c its dead
set in their minds. Nos is dangerous when you have a moroon using it and installing it.
Nos is something you cant cut corners and take the cheap way. Done right and not over
done it will last a while. A 50-75 wet shot is nothing. Yes nos is not always on and its
used only when racing. But a turbo is not always used either.Nos is like a turbo in a bottle.

But a turbo can be dangerous too. People always say is always there. Well yea its
always there is bolted on, hehe, but seriously a turbo only boosts when you mash it. Yes
you dont have to open it up and bla bla bla but it works the same way. That can be bad at
times knowing it always there and if your on the gas the thing is spooling and wont stop
unless you get off of it. A turbo is not bad on gas, i still get over 200-250 city miles with
my set up and im pushing double what your cars are pushing. As long as you dont spool it
every time the gas mileage will be fine, the more you spool the fast the gas goes down.
When you mash it the turbo gets up and goes. But at low rpms the car is still a dog b/c of
the turbo lag turbos produce. Nos will help the low end hp loss, but turbos wont. Turbos
wont start spooling until the upper rpms, just a FYI .It seems people here think that a
turbo will make a huge HP increase. That all depends on the turbo size. Hearing that no
one has a turbo for your car makes me think no one will come out with a big one yet. So if
you do get one for your car is not going to be big. Your engines might not be able to
handle a big one.You might get 10 psi out of it done right with an intercooler, computer,
injectors, etc etc etc... People also say oh get a turbo you can have BOV's. Thats a lot of
money and time to invest just for a cool noise and a cooler looking intercooler not to
mention a front mounted intercooler is close to 1000 dollars and just doesnt get slapped
in. If you dont do a turbo the right way it wil blow your engine faster that the nos will.
Remeber with a turbo comes problems. Boost leaks, vacumm leaks and anyone that has a
turbo knows they suck and hard to find sometimes. that **** makes the turbo not work.
Also a turbo is not always built proof. Turbos can go fast too, just like anything else. Once
they start leaking and your car blowing black smoke its done and back to stage one again.
Kinda expensive.
The combination of both is very fun http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/redface.gif). If done right it is still safe. Nos is used to
fight the turbo lag as mentioned before. Nos helps the rpms climb fast until the turbo starts
spooling. Nos can be used on top of the turbos also. The safest bet is too use a wet shot
with a turbo set up less stress and more fuel thats needed for both things. Plus with either
of these two things all of you will have to go to the dyno and get all your AFC's tuned. No
more self tuning, if you do, you could detanate and thats bad!! Hope this helps a little.

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[Drag'nGT]

NOS and a turbo aren't much different.(wear wise) But forcing air into an engine and forcing Nitrous into an engine just makes you lean toward putting more of the stuff that your car already inhales in it.

I would like to run a turbo and NOS on the car too. The NOS would be set up only for drag races. But how often do I do that??? Not much.<IMG SRC="http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smilies/cwm1.gif" border=0>

After tonight I'm definatly questioning my "looks before go" idea. I wanted to kit and paint my car so that no one in this town or many people that own a Celica would look like me. But after this azz hole in a Mustang told me that a 4 banger couldn't run with a V8 and then smoked his tires when he left made me sooooo pissed off. I came home and loaded Auto Trader and started a search for Supras and I got on here to talk about the soon to be released turbo kit for the Celica just to see my best rout. And since I need to be "car note free" while at FSU. I'm thinking Celica with lots of boost. (I had to let the steam from that event off just now.)<IMG SRC="http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smilies/cwm23.gif" border=0>

Anyway.... The VVTI engine has been proven to run 13psi no problem. Plus... The daily psi that you run is controled by a boost controller. $200 lets you run 6psi driving just like normal and with the flick of a switch you can go to 10-13psi no problem. So that cures the problem about the turbo allways boosting your engine. Just run low psi until you wanna run with the Rustangs and Si's. http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/biggrin.gif Then kill'em.

But I'm gonna sit down tomorrow night and look at my money situation and see if I want to do the engine first and then make it look good later this summer. I've got about 6k to fool around with. So I'll see what I want to do. But I want to use some of it to help pay off the trade in.

Thanks you guys for helping me with this. I really needed to read the nitrous posts. And no I'm not just waving money around. I want to make a smart choice and your opinion is very valuable to me. Thanks again.

[Xlr8_10]

very helpful information!

[d5]

nice, squeeze beyatch