View Full Version : Not to start flame war, but opinions on other Celica sites from while NC.org was down
Jesse IL
03-06-2002, 12:31 PM
Man, I'm glad this place is back up. The other Celica sites just don't make me want to get on the computer. I tried out a few others and I'll say I wasn't impressed.
nextcelica.net - This board is basically like reading the newbie forum here. Nice enough people, they just don't know ANYTHING.
celica.net - I started out there and left when it became terrible and all the knowledgeable people left, and all the assholes took over. Still pretty much the same, but better than nextcelica.net The only good posts I found over there were from displaced nc.org members. Also, they still use that same crappy software we used to use here that caused the board to run so slow.
Anyone else care to comment on their experiences while the site was down?
Rog315
03-06-2002, 12:34 PM
yeah for some reason it just isn't the same!
jotan82
03-06-2002, 12:35 PM
having had to of used the other celica boards...
i appreciate nc.org so much more!!! this board rocks!!!
also visit www.s2ki.com s2000 board
their board is awesome!!!
Nerf Herder
03-06-2002, 12:37 PM
well, newcelica.NET started out kinda normal, then got all weird and sh|t.
TeamCelica.com is a good forum, it just doesn't get as much traffic as the other forums.
Keyshawn
03-06-2002, 12:45 PM
Jesse,
Agreed. The other sites seemed to be geared more toward novices and newbies, while I consider newcelica.org to be "the big leagues."
selika2000
03-06-2002, 12:45 PM
newcelica.net was a joke
nextcelica.net - i only go there to check up on the arizona forum.. and events going on in my area, other then that, their information to me isn't to helpful
celica.net- i like that site because it's orginal. it isn't based on the 7th gen, it's for all gens. the colors need to be changes, that gray and orange don't go together to well..
toyotacelica.org is new but slowly coming together.. give it more time
yakkosmurf
03-06-2002, 12:49 PM
I really missed this site. Celica.net is okay, but the moron level is kind of high. They are really in need of a knowledge base over there. Too many kids. Nextcelica.net messed up my registation, and I haven't bother to try and figure it out. Newcelica.org was just weird. Toyotacelica.org isn't bad at all. We'll see how it goes.
Nerf Herder
03-06-2002, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by selika2000
newcelica.net was a joke
weren't you a moderator on that?
2000 XYR
03-06-2002, 01:33 PM
yakkosmurf said:
Newcelica.org was just weird. Wanna try that again. ;)
HilfigerCelica
03-06-2002, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by yakkosmurf
I really missed this site. Celica.net is okay, but the moron level is kind of high.
That's because all the banned people from nc.org goes to celica.net. I think this site has changed for the better. I remember a time when anyone asked a question there used to be a gang of people flaming that person. I really like the overall atmosphere of nc.org now.
With nc.org down, I didn't even wanted to get on the computer anymore.
Miguel GTS
03-06-2002, 01:59 PM
to be honest i really didn't think that newcelica.net was that bad there were not many users and stuff but that was expected
but all the drama of who ever hacked that other site is an idiot if it was larry (not saying it was him )that is some pretty weak and imature thing to do and if it wasn't him that is one hell of an ass kissing on the part of whoever did it that is so damn gay that is not needed at all
we are all here to talk about our cars ppl have to accept that not everybody gets along and just b/c you don't like some one does not mean you don't lke there work Example metalica great music the ppl that make the music a bunch of money hungry ****s
that is the same here larry does a great job with his site. i personally don't like him that does not mean that i don;t like his work
larry also knows that there are a bunch off ppl that don't like him at one time even put up a poll i think about that or asked a question as to why ppl didn't like him and if i remeber right it got quite long
the **** that happened over at NC.net was just another reason as to why ppl probably lead to ppl not liking him
so just think about it what was the point of shutting NC.net down you left ppl with out a place to go they could not come here for like 2 day nor could they go there and we all know that it was some one that was very influenced by this site b/c they put up this url in
WillyK
03-06-2002, 02:10 PM
I occassionally browse celica.net and toyotacelica.org, but it just isn't the same. I think when you get used to one board and really like it, nothing can replace it.
Now newcelica.net, that site was just messed up. They had horrible rules and regulations and the admins did not treat anybody very well at all in my opinion. The night I started bashing the admins there with their rules, it was nice to have some fellow nc.org members to back me up.
oldster
03-06-2002, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Miguel GTS
to be honest i really didn't think that newcelica.net was that bad there were not many users and stuff but that was expected
but all the drama of who ever hacked that other site is an idiot if it was larry (not saying it was him )that is some pretty weak and imature thing to do and if it wasn't him that is one hell of an ass kissing on the part of whoever did it that is so damn gay that is not needed at all
we are all here to talk about our cars ppl have to accept that not everybody gets along and just b/c you don't like some one does not mean you don't lke there work Example metalica great music the ppl that make the music a bunch of money hungry ****s
that is the same here larry does a great job with his site. i personally don't like him that does not mean that i don;t like his work
larry also knows that there are a bunch off ppl that don't like him at one time even put up a poll i think about that or asked a question as to why ppl didn't like him and if i remeber right it got quite long
the **** that happened over at NC.net was just another reason as to why ppl probably lead to ppl not liking him
so just think about it what was the point of shutting NC.net down you left ppl with out a place to go they could not come here for like 2 day nor could they go there and we all know that it was some one that was very influenced by this site b/c they put up this url in
I also thought that newcelica.net had some promise. Forgive me if I am wrong but didn't they shut down the site themselves, don't think it had anything to do with anyone from this site? After it was shut down it may have been hacked which is a lame thing to do and showed no class.
They had a good thing going but couldn't manage the situation. The three things that came to mind which offended people was:
1. Spam email to get people to site
2. Use of installs without permission
3. The apperent arbitrary deleting or locking of posts the admins or moderatiors did not like - my personal favorite
Given those issues they could have addressed them and perhaps become a viable site. They instead chose to shut down as a Celica site and become whatever the hell it is now. So given all of that I am sorry that they didn't make it from a Celica perspective but can't muster a lot of sympathy for the leaders since they reaped what they had sown.
Byron
03-06-2002, 02:30 PM
I just don't understand what's up with newcelica.net... it just became some wierdo site...after it got hacked. Is that for real???yeah this board has a lot to offer. and now the speed went up even better.
WillyK
03-06-2002, 02:34 PM
Don't forget them banning Larry and the admin from Toyotacelica.org, what was the point of that? What cracked me up was when you put in newcelica.org or something and it would change it to ThatOtherSite
How lame
djm221
03-06-2002, 02:36 PM
nc.org and spyderchat.com are the only boards that don't have a majority of morons or children. Spyderchat.com doesn't gte as much traffic as this place, so I couldn't waste as much time on it. clubrsx.com is pretty bad.
WillyK
03-06-2002, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by djm221
clubrsx.com is pretty bad.
They are the new clubsi, only worse
oldster
03-06-2002, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by WillyK
Don't forget them banning Larry and the admin from Toyotacelica.org, what was the point of that? What cracked me up was when you put in newcelica.org or something and it would change it to ThatOtherSite
How lame
I could be mistake but I thought Larry and Matt were posting all along??
dragonfrog
03-06-2002, 03:25 PM
i jumped between teamunison.com and toyotacelica.org
cool2miketlu
03-06-2002, 03:52 PM
I am sure there is alot of people that came to www.teamunison.com because our alot of our badwidth was used by some of the people here in newcelica.org this includes LarryD. I am glad everything is fine here, keep up the good work Larry! Thank god we solved out bandwidth problem already, or else samething is going to happen to our website.
DaksGT
03-06-2002, 03:56 PM
This is the only celica board I visit, except for
*shameless plug*
www.celispeed.com
I also whore www.honda-tech.com and www.toyotanation.com
I just read clubsi
Da Kine Guy
03-06-2002, 03:58 PM
Hahaha, newcelica.net is hilarious!! Remember the pic of the dude farting with flames coming out of his butt? THAT was funny! The posts over there now are hella funny now too. Everyone over there is just posting all kinds of BS and it's cracking me up, especially that Gary Condit guy.
One thing that was good from that site was I was able to find a guy in the buy/sell forum selling his stock white rear bumper for $100, too bad he's in Jersey and I live by San Jose :(
CelicaShocker
03-06-2002, 04:17 PM
NewCelica.org - by far the most helpful and entertaining board
Celica.net - like many, I started out there, and then moved to NC.org, forums ok but the mix of the old celica's with ours is odd
Bay Area Forums - since I live in Davis/Antelope, CA its a good board for any NorCal folks
TeamCelica.com - I liked the site, I liked the member database, but thats about it
All the other ones I don't go to. so no comment
yakkosmurf
03-06-2002, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by CelicaShocker
Celica.net - like many, I started out there, and then moved to NC.org, forums ok but the mix of the old celica's with ours is odd
I thought this too. They really aren't even the same car. They just share a name.
WillyK
03-06-2002, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by oldster
I could be mistake but I thought Larry and Matt were posting all along??
They both got banned and re-registered.
ringthree
03-06-2002, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by selika2000
newcelica.net was a joke
The really funny thing is that the real humor of this comment is lost on all but a select few.
t2000gts
03-06-2002, 05:15 PM
i also prefer nc.org for the same reasons everyone made.
celica.net should get an honorable mention for having so much **** on the previous generations of celicas, however.
also, you guys have a crazy stereotype of ClubSi, that's IMHO, completely off. it's not a BS board. it's a flamer's board. they're a very close knit community, albeit also a large one at that, and it's more of an online hangout first, and car board second. but the second you post anything remotely stupid or outrageous, you will get called out for it, and flamed or ridiculed.
ringthree
03-06-2002, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Miguel GTS
but all the drama of who ever hacked that other site is an idiot if it was larry (not saying it was him )that is some pretty weak and imature thing to do and if it wasn't him that is one hell of an ass kissing on the part of whoever did it that is so damn gay that is not needed at all
Just to clarify, it was NOT Larry.
QWKsilvr808
03-06-2002, 05:26 PM
I browsed celica.net, and was surprised about all the trash talk that was going on about this site being down. I thought that was pretty immature. I won't bother to go there again, or register for that matter.
ringthree
03-06-2002, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by WillyK
Now newcelica.net, that site was just messed up. They had horrible rules and regulations and the admins did not treat anybody very well at all in my opinion. The night I started bashing the admins there with their rules, it was nice to have some fellow nc.org members to back me up.
I treated people very well in my opinion. It was a huge drama and you didn't know any of it obviously. I had already spoke with Yakko and Oldster about it and how to make the site better. It was neither of the admins (even though Jim can get crazy at times). I wont name names but lets just say that someone was doing a lot to make sure the site didnt work out. I just chalk it up as a failed experiment and I'm moving on.
Again for any of those that felt wronged somehow by the whole affair then just contact me and we can talk.
ringthree
03-06-2002, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by oldster
I also thought that newcelica.net had some promise. Forgive me if I am wrong but didn't they shut down the site themselves, don't think it had anything to do with anyone from this site? After it was shut down it may have been hacked which is a lame thing to do and showed no class.
This is exactly what happened.
Originally posted by oldster
They had a good thing going but couldn't manage the situation. The three things that came to mind which offended people was:
1. Spam email to get people to site
That was a **** up, I have applogized about that even though I didnt do it.
Originally posted by oldster
2. Use of installs without permission
The person that sent these to us claimed they were their own. This was one of the other reasons we took down the site. We had them down as soon as we heard that they were not original works.
Originally posted by oldster
3. The apperent arbitrary deleting or locking of posts the admins or moderatiors did not like - my personal favorite
This I'm not too sure about, Jim and I had nothing to do with it. We are pretty sure we know who did it, and that person had done a lot of lying to us and others.
Originally posted by oldster
Given those issues they could have addressed them and perhaps become a viable site. They instead chose to shut down as a Celica site and become whatever the hell it is now. So given all of that I am sorry that they didn't make it from a Celica perspective but can't muster a lot of sympathy for the leaders since they reaped what they had sown.
Yeah Jim made his own crazy site out it. He's jsut being silly now. Most people know that Jim and Larry dont see eye to eye but thats between them.
I told Jim to take down the site Monday morning because it was more trouble than it was worth. People didn't want us so we took off. I really wanted it to work but hey it didn't.
Now for the important part, why in the hell am I defending myself? Well because I felt that I was trying to do something nice and helpful. I wasn't doing anything against Larry, and Jim and I had been kicking around the idea for a while. Alot wasn;'t handled well and a lot of people didn't to see us do well, and one even straight up lied to us, as we later found out that they had done to other.
Like I said then, I will say now. I love this community, I love my car and I do alot to make things happen local and nationally. Maybe I'm too idealistic, but after everything happened I was really down on Monday, I thought about giving it all up, but I just decided that I need to better focus my energies.
Oh well, on to other projects.
ringthree
03-06-2002, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by WillyK
They are the new clubsi, only worse
You spend too much time in RSX vs. All. That site over is still very young but is getting better pretty quickly. Also keep in mind that it is larger than this site in about a quarter of the time. They are going to have growing pains.
Miguel GTS
03-06-2002, 06:11 PM
well now knowing what happened i take back my comments i can accept when i **** up
z6joker9
03-06-2002, 06:32 PM
the trash talking about nc.org on other boards is no different than what many here are doing....
just dont partake in it and dont listen to them
WillyK
03-06-2002, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by ringthree
You spend too much time in RSX vs. All. That site over is still very young but is getting better pretty quickly. Also keep in mind that it is larger than this site in about a quarter of the time. They are going to have growing pains.
Of course I spend all my time in RSX vs. All, thats the best and most entertaining forum, same on Clubsi.
WillyK
03-06-2002, 06:33 PM
Trash talking other sites is a given, it will always happen.
oldster
03-06-2002, 06:36 PM
Ringthree, I can only speak for myself when I say I appreciate your clarification and candor on the issues that I listed. I will also say for the record that I am truly sorry that your site did not work out. I'm sure that I did not help the situation but I tend to jump in with both feet when I don't agree that something or someone is being treated fairly. I have done that on this and other forums as well so please don't think that your site was singled out. While I am certainly no insider I can only guess that your previous post regarding humor might also be viewed as terribly ironic? The very best of luck to you.
Oldster
Diesel949X
03-06-2002, 06:41 PM
Well...I did start out at NC.org b/c I was told that was the best forum for Celicas. I also looked at Celica.net...never liked it...even when this was down I still didn't like the atmosphere over there. TC.org was where I set up camp. That board shows a lot of promise...just needs time to grow. Don't even get me started on newcelica.net...
ringthree
03-06-2002, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by WillyK
Of course I spend all my time in RSX vs. All, thats the best and most entertaining forum, same on Clubsi.
Oh I spend all my time in there too ;). I just dont think you should judge the rest of the forum by the racing forum. Remember the racing forum is always just one step above OT.
ringthree
03-06-2002, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by oldster
Ringthree, I can only speak for myself when I say I appreciate your clarification and candor on the issues that I listed. I will also say for the record that I am truly sorry that your site did not work out. I'm sure that I did not help the situation but I tend to jump in with both feet when I don't agree that something or someone is being treated fairly. I have done that on this and other forums as well so please don't think that your site was singled out. While I am certainly no insider I can only guess that your previous post regarding humor might also be viewed as terribly ironic? The very best of luck to you.
Oldster
Thanks Oldster, I was just glad that you spent the time to give your opinion. I would also like to thank Yakko. You two were great. While I'm at it I would also like to thank Keyshawn, you three are my top three on this or any board.
Oh and you are quite observant for an old guy.
racinjason
03-06-2002, 09:11 PM
There are other Celica boards besides NC.org????? When did this happen. LOL i remember when Larry first got this place rollin. Celica.net and thier faithful laughed at Larry and then myself for helping him. LOL Most of those guys have fallen into the cracks. I visit other sites just to check them out etc. But this is my home. It has everything I need.
Oo DaRk StAr oO
03-06-2002, 11:16 PM
Thanks for those that supported toyotacelica.org. I hope you keep coming back. Were glad newcelica.org is back up. Out of all this I think its good because now me, Larry, Shaun (nextcelica.net), Clayton (celica.net), and teamunison have all decided to band together and keep the community together and happy.
Matt
http://toyotacelica.org
*Toyota Celica Alliance Member*
http://toyotacelica.org
http://newcelica.org
http://celica.net
http://nextcelica.net
http://teamunison.com
XeroDgrees
03-06-2002, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by Jesse IL
nextcelica.net - This board is basically like reading the newbie forum here. Nice enough people, they just don't know ANYTHING.
Dont know ANYTHING?
I guess you never ventured to the Technical Problems and Solutions forum at nextcelica.net
Here is a link to it that will show you we DO know (http://www.nextcelica.net/community/index.php?board=30)
Have a nice day...
BTW glad to see nc.org is back up
WillyK
03-07-2002, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by ringthree
Oh I spend all my time in there too ;). I just dont think you should judge the rest of the forum by the racing forum. Remember the racing forum is always just one step above OT.
This is true. But c'mon you have to admit some of the things they say over there are odd. I remember the one topic when none of them said they would want the new Type R because it wasn't "luxurious" enough, no leather, sunroof, etc. They all want to be racers but don't want the Type R because it doesn't have enough luxury, that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
ringthree
03-07-2002, 08:34 AM
GUH, I totally agree with you there! But again thats RSX v. All, not the regular part of the forum.
Jesse IL
03-07-2002, 09:59 AM
Man, I missed everything, but what exactly was the timeframe that newcelica.net was operating anyways?
ringthree
03-07-2002, 10:19 AM
Like friday to monday morning, not very long.
cruzerz545
03-07-2002, 11:05 AM
muhahahahahahahahahha
Originally posted by Keyshawn
Jesse,
Agreed. The other sites seemed to be geared more toward novices and newbies, while I consider newcelica.org to be "the big leagues."
yakkosmurf
03-07-2002, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by WillyK
This is true. But c'mon you have to admit some of the things they say over there are odd. I remember the one topic when none of them said they would want the new Type R because it wasn't "luxurious" enough, no leather, sunroof, etc. They all want to be racers but don't want the Type R because it doesn't have enough luxury, that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
I was thinking the same thing. It's like a bunch of racing pansies or something. They have excuses for everything over there.
Modern Angel
03-07-2002, 02:32 PM
Well, when this site went down I just went from spending 75% of my time at preludeonline.com and 25% here.. to 100% at preludeonline.. :D
I must say, though, that Preludeonline is right up there with this board in the number of knowledgable, mature posters.. good place to get all kinds of car ??'s answered..
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