What States are NOS legal?

[Backroads]

Last I knew, I couldn't get NOS bottle's re-filled in my state w/o knowing someone at the beverage/welding supply... because NOS is illegal in this and some other states. Anyone know anything about this?
I'd like to go NOS on my GTS but I worry about the hassle of finding refills.
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[Kaizer-Souze]

as far as I know nos is illegal everywhere if it is in the car but you can get tanks filled just ask nice I guess?

[larryd]

you should be able to get refills.. ive never heard of that

[Backroads]

I'll look into this, this week and tell you what I find out. Three years ago I was told to go to a different state where it was legal. I'll ask around at the local track, too, and post my findings.

[FL Honda Stompr]

you can get it re-filled cuz you could just say, "its for the track"

[cruzerz545]

perfectly legal to install, and use in VA

[caminsc5]

we have shops here in SC that have all sorts of setups and "refill stations". its ok to have in ur car, but u cant have it on (if u get pulled over.)

[BoyRacer]

thats why you hide it!!!! get a sneaky pete for the road....hide it where the jack goes in the rear 1/4 panel....................like the lt1 boys doo. :) hehe. thats what i wanna do for street racin. i am a bastard what can i say.

[mythot4]

I am going to hide my bottle in a fake compartment in my sub box. I will have to build a new box but thats not to bad

[PapiChuu]

in jersey u can have it in your car but you need a permit to carry

[PhatCellyGT]

It's not legal anywhere. Let a cop see the tank and see if they don't write you a ticket for carrying explosive material w/out a permit. And if it's connected to the motor and they check...bye bye car. Experience Sucks.....

Wil

[pensfan83]

Originally posted by PhatCellyGT
It's not legal anywhere. Let a cop see the tank and see if they don't write you a ticket for carrying explosive material w/out a permit. And if it's connected to the motor and they check...bye bye car. Experience Sucks.....

Wil

Sorry, but I'm almost certain you're wrong. It might be illegal in some places, but I know for a fact not everywhere. I forget where I'm thinking of (I don't think it's here in Ohio), but you can have a nitrous setup in your car. You can't use it on the street, however.

Also, I'm pretty sure that under normal circumstances, nitrous oxide by itself is neither explosive nor flammable. All that it does is accelerate the combustion process. Don't, however, combine it with "sulphurous anhydride, amorphous boron, phosphine, ethers, aluminium, hydrazine, phenyl-lithium and tungsten carbide".

[2001redgts]

complete legal here in Nebraska. Hehehe. You can even get caught racing with NOS and all you get is a racing ticket.

[Archon_Ninja]

Not legal here in Texas.

[ProToolsKid]

Originally posted by Archon_Ninja
Not legal here in Texas.

Yeah it is.... Cops just like to fuk W/ people

[baNanA_ryCe]

wait i'm confused...so texas legal or not? i would think illegal

[Archon_Ninja]

No josi, in Texas it is illegal. I talked to a sheriff, he said it was absolutely illegal.

[ProToolsKid]

It's not illegal to have in your car but illegal to use on the Street... Hence Hiding it is useful.

[fastest1]

in Colorado it is perfectrly legal to have hooked up and everything, as long as the bottle isn;t open. remote bottle openers make this touchy, but basically, the cop needs to see that there is an poen line between the bottle and the engine to charge you---
now the fact that most cops are not up to speed on what they can and cannot do (or just don;t care) means that as soon as a bottle is seen, you can pretty muh plan on getting a ticket and then fighting it based on the reasons above.

[PapiChuu]

Originally posted by pensfan83


Sorry, but I'm almost certain you're wrong. It might be illegal in some places, but I know for a fact not everywhere. I forget where I'm thinking of (I don't think it's here in Ohio), but you can have a nitrous setup in your car. You can't use it on the street, however.

Also, I'm pretty sure that under normal circumstances, nitrous oxide by itself is neither explosive nor flammable. All that it does is accelerate the combustion process. Don't, however, combine it with "sulphurous anhydride, amorphous boron, phosphine, ethers, aluminium, hydrazine, phenyl-lithium and tungsten carbide".


i agree

[CarpeNoxRacing]

Yea Yea What They Said

[Hepnotic]

what about CALI?

[zac83]

are you crazy, everything is illegal in cali... you cant even run a 4bbl carb on an engine that came with a 2bbl no mater what year it is, grandfather or not

and the lowdown on nos. its ILLEGAL. EVERYWHERE. dont have the bottle connected and your all gravey tho, but cops arnt exactly mechanical savvy so they will probably still write you a ticket if you have a disconnected bottle sitting in the trunk. best thing to do is hide it very well, or dont physicly keep the bottle in the car when your not on the track.

Obtaining NOS: any welding suply place will sell it to you, my family has opperated a welding shop before, its as simple as taking an empty tank to the place and saying, 'hook me up brotha', only problem is they usually just take your empty tank and give you a full one so youll probably have to shop around for a place that does on spot refills. maybe buy two bottles and leave one overnight for refill when you have a full sitting in the car? i dono, but nos isnt that hard to get, just dont go though an aftermarket store, they'll charge you out tha booty.

fingers are hurting now, im done.

[pensfan83]

Originally posted by zac83

and the lowdown on nos. its ILLEGAL. EVERYWHERE.

We discussed this already. You're wrong.

PS--Just because it's illegal in Texas doesn't mean it's illegal EVERYWHERE.

[celicauk]

I don't think it illegal in the UK :D

As for refills, I have an 85lb cylinder in my garage so I do my own :)

[SiCivic99]

Originally posted by zac83
are you crazy, everything is illegal in cali... you cant even run a 4bbl carb on an engine that came with a 2bbl no mater what year it is, grandfather or not

and the lowdown on nos. its ILLEGAL. EVERYWHERE. dont have the bottle connected and your all gravey tho, but cops arnt exactly mechanical savvy so they will probably still write you a ticket if you have a disconnected bottle sitting in the trunk. best thing to do is hide it very well, or dont physicly keep the bottle in the car when your not on the track.

Obtaining NOS: any welding suply place will sell it to you, my family has opperated a welding shop before, its as simple as taking an empty tank to the place and saying, 'hook me up brotha', only problem is they usually just take your empty tank and give you a full one so youll probably have to shop around for a place that does on spot refills. maybe buy two bottles and leave one overnight for refill when you have a full sitting in the car? i dono, but nos isnt that hard to get, just dont go though an aftermarket store, they'll charge you out tha booty.

fingers are hurting now, im done.

This is incorrect. I ran a 4bbl carb on my 66 stang with no problems, and this was back when you had to smog 66 and above. No, the car did not come with the 4bbl. Anyways. In cali you can have the nitrous, just not have it hooked up. Its legal for 'off road use only'.

[David Draper]

Hey guys,

I don't know about the rest of the country, but California has legal kits.

LINK: http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/devices.htm

Lookup nitrous kits.

[SiCivic99]

Originally posted by David Draper
Hey guys,

I don't know about the rest of the country, but California has legal kits.

LINK: http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/devices.htm

Lookup nitrous kits.

Very interesting. Thing is they were all for v8's and NOS brand kits. Nothing on there about Nitrous Express, Zex, Venom, etc. Oh well.

[cruzerz545]

Good god.


NITROUS IS LEGAL IN EVERYSTATE, YOU CAN TRANSPORT IT IN ANY STATE, AND YOU CAN USE IT IN ANY STATE.

[SiCivic99]

Originally posted by cruzerz545
Good god.


NITROUS IS LEGAL IN EVERYSTATE, YOU CAN TRANSPORT IT IN ANY STATE, AND YOU CAN USE IT IN ANY STATE.

Ummmm, No. Check again. It is ILLEGAL to use nitrous on the street in California.

[cruzerz545]

Must be a local state law because there is a national law that says you can transport as much nitrous as you want up to 1001 lbs. Heck you can transport 1000lbs of TNT if you want to.


Basically if you get pulled over and you have nitrous installed they cant do jack about it, and they canr proove you were using it.



Originally posted by SiCivic99


Ummmm, No. Check again. It is ILLEGAL to use nitrous on the street in California.

[SiCivic99]

Originally posted by cruzerz545
Must be a local state law because there is a national law that says you can transport as much nitrous as you want up to 1001 lbs. Heck you can transport 1000lbs of TNT if you want to.


Basically if you get pulled over and you have nitrous installed they cant do jack about it, and they canr proove you were using it.





I never said anything about transporting it, I said USING it. I know I can have it in my car and all, thats not my point. If its hooked up to where I could use it, then its illegal. Having it there and not hooked up is not illegal.

[pensfan83]

It definitely varies from location to location. I can't remember where, but you could even have it hooked up as long as you didn't use it on the street :rolleyes:

[SiCivic99]

Originally posted by pensfan83
It definitely varies from location to location. I can't remember where, but you could even have it hooked up as long as you didn't use it on the street :rolleyes:

I called the CHP to clarify California law and the use of nitrous. He couldn't find it so he is going to call me back sometime tomorrow. I will let you all know what they say.

[Mkiv]

you can have nos here in CA and if you have the pressure set to ZERO they will let you go. Also they cant dedect if you were using it so dont worry imean if you were speeding they wont check your car etc. i know of a guy who had a GTS and got pulled over and teh cop saw his braidig cables casue his rear seat was removed he found hte nos but didnt make him take it off cause it was set to zero the pressure taht is.

[David Draper]

Originally posted by SiCivic99


I called the CHP to clarify California law and the use of nitrous. He couldn't find it so he is going to call me back sometime tomorrow. I will let you all know what they say.

Well, actually, if any nitrous kit can get CARB certified, that means that they are not inherently going to be illegal (like an exhaust that removes the catalytic converter would be for example), it simply means that they are taken on a case-by-case basis.

For example, although the TRD header for the MkI MR2 is not legal for street use, the TRD header for the 83-89 4 cylinder pickup truck is just fine--because it has an executive order from the California Air Resources Board.

So at any rate, yes, although they do nothing different from the kits listed in CARB's database of exempt nitrous products, the kits available from companies like Zex and Nitrous Express would in fact be illegal to use on public roads in California.

Although again, not all nitrous kits and/or products are illegal in California.

Also, although every officer will enforce the law in his own way, they have no authority to issue a ticket for ANY kit or product with an exemption issued by the State of California.

However, procedure dictates that if a product DOES NOT have an exemption granted it by the State of California, regardless of whether or not it's in use, if it's actually installed on the car and is capable of being used (in other words if it's hooked up and has pressure, thereby making it able to be used without having to install or refill anything), that a fix-a-ticket should be issued, and the product in question should be removed, and that the removal should be verified and signed off on by a CHP officer.

This is kind of like the laws governing possession of firearms in a vehicle in California.

You can have the gun, but it has to be in another compartment, and can't be loaded. So if it's unloaded and in the passenger's seat, even if there is no ammo in the car, the officer is supposed to issue a misdemeanor citation and take the offender to jail.

Most cops will just tell the driver to remove his head from his rear-end, put the gun in the trunk, and let him go.

Also, if the gun is loaded in the trunk, it's the same level misdemeanor, although unless the offender was perceived to be a threat to society at large, odds are the officer would let this go too.

At any rate, just a couple notes on how the law works in California.

P.S., There's really not much to stop an officer from offering you his version of the law, so don't be surprised if you encounter someone who simply doesn't know better. If you've actually seen the thousands of pages of law just for the highways of California, you know how hard it would be to keep them all straight, so cut your local officers some slack--most of them are really good guys.