suspension...

[StrEerRacErgts]

what is the best strut/coilover system i can get for my gts? how much? i'm new at this so any help would be nice.

[Fourgig]

Either the Hotchkis or Tiens. You can't get the TRD ones without buying the entire Sportivo kit.

Either set will cost you over $1000.

[J.C.]

Go with the best, go HOTCHKIS...... How many companies can you say have a full suspesion kit front to back and have an actual Celica that is used for development , testing and racing......!!!
Hotchkis Tuning does............J.C.

[GTS LAID]

damn J.C. you're taking advantage of every little chance to squeeze the market. from what i heard of hotchkis products they are awesome (except when they send you the wrong bushing :) )

I have their sway bars and they're great. I have the Teins on right now and I Love them ... I think they're extremely high quality. I believe its really what you want to do. If you're getting the whole setup i would recommend hotchkis cause then they can give you a good deal.

[Gracing2000]

Who is tiens? I never heard of them. I'm in desperate need of tips on suspension. But, really only interested in getting springs and struts. What do you think? and from who?
I have 2 in. springs from at the moment but i'm in desperate need for shocks, and also have a camber problem in the rear at the moment. ANy recommedations on what to do? Should i keep those springs and go with soemthing else?

[Pinoyspd17]

if you got camber problems that cant be corrected using the stock adjusters, then go hotchkis suspension & camberlinks/camberplates...

if you can fix them with the stock adjusters And you need sway bars, go Hotchkis all the way...Total System includes suspension, sway bars, and camber kits front&rear i think...

if camber can be corrected with stocks and you Dont need sway bars, its a toss-up...but i think more people here will pick Teins since theyve bin available longer than the Hotchkis suspension..

Teins Set: "Coilovers" (adjustable height) and Adjustable Struts/Shocks (16 level compression adjustability , stiff->soft)

Hotchkis: "Coilovers" (adjustable height) and NON-Adjustable Struts/Shocks.....but you can get the struts/shocks Without Springs and you can just use the 2" ones you got now...

id say Teins for the compression adjustability...but you pick yor combo....i have the Tein SS's and Hotchkis Rear Camberlinks myself...

thanx

[Gracing2000]

Yes, I don't think the camber can be adjusted with the stock adjusters. I'm not lookin to spend over $1,000 for suspension at the moment. I was just thinkin of gettin the Hotchkis rear camber links cuz I definetely need it for the rear camber problem,& and also gettin thier lowering springs cuz my drop now is way to low for me gettin in and out my driveway and plus i can't the car up on my ramps. And finally thinkin of throwing a set of tokico blues shocks to dampen the ride a little bit. This should all run me about $800. This is probably the best and least costly solution i can find at the moment. Unless I should just save up and buy thier whole suspension package from Hotchkis.
I don't know what do you think is the best idea to do asap? This ride is killin me!!!
Thanks,
Gio

[Gracing2000]

One more thing, if i do decide to get the hotchkis package, should i order online or would i get a better deal callin direct.

Thanks again,
Gio

[chameleon]

Gracing2000, lets reveiw. Your looking into getting a different set of lowering springs because the ones you have are too low. You are looking into getting different shocks because you aren't satisfied with your stock shocks. You are looking into getting aftermarket camber adjusters because you cant get your camber back into spec. And the total cost for doing that is going to be around $800...

I say get the full coil over set. If you go with Tein($1100) you are only $300 away from what you plan on spending now. The Tein kit comes with short shocks that are designed to work with lower ride heights, so that is a huge plus right their. The Tein kit comes with new springs that are coil over so you can raise the height up a little higher than you are now, which would probably allow you're stock camber adjusters to set your rear wheel back to correct spec. which will make the Hotchkis rear camber adjusters unnecessary. A lot of people say get hotchkis, but I have heard no complaints about the Tein's and they cost less than the Hotchkis set. I can post this with confidence that no one will come forward and say that the Tein's are an inferior product, a lot of people would really like a Tein coilover suspention on their Celica. Of course, I'm kind of a hypocrit for saying that because I just bought the Hotchkis coil over system for my car from Larryd, but the only reason I got it was because it was a good deal, I was originally planning on Teins.

So that's what I think you should do. Just save up the extra money, I'm sure that the Tein coil over suspention will make all your suspention problems go away. If you want to order either kit, here is a good site that sells all that stuff for a good price. Good luck!:)

TITAN MOTORSPORTS (http://www.ecarshops.com/Merchant/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=TM&Category_Code=Celica+Suspension)

[mac340]

You can get the TRD lowering spring and strut/shock set for about 600$ at www.wctoyotasport.com

[toyota-tech.com]

zeal

[ASM]

FIY, TRD spring/struct/shock can be found for $520 at www.etoyota.com.

~ASM

[iwantaturbo]

does H&R make a coilover setup? sorry guys i just got out of the german tuning market and their cars' biggest mod is the suspension, how low can you go without giving up normal driving conditions and without losing ride quality is the name of their game. I read a lot on hotchkis, but not entirely satisfied with the hight adjustment

[chameleon]

If you lower the car any more than 1" it will have a noticealbley negative affect on your handleing.

What about the hotchkis hieght adjustment were you not satisfied with? If you just got out of the German tuning market, and you know how important suspention is to them, you could probably buy the Hotchkis setup with confidence because hotchkis is a German company.

H&R do make full coilover setups, but not for the Celica.

[iwantaturbo]

yes i used to run a h&r setup, i might look into hotchkis, and lowering more than 1 inch does not have a negative effect on handleing if you lower with true coilovers

[chameleon]

iwantaturbo, sorry I thought that you meant lowering on stock struts, not with a true coil over system. I don't know how low you can go with a true coil over system with short shocks and everything.

Hotchkis is considered the best system currently out for the Celica, so that is a good place to start. Tein's are also supposed to be really good, so you might want to look into them too so you can compaire them to the Hotchkis. I ended up getting a true coil over system made by Hotchkis, but the Tein coil over suspention is supposed to perform really well.

http://www.tein.co.jp/

[chameleon]

iwantaturbo, I just called Hotchkis to find out the aswere to your question for my own knowledge. They told me that thier coil over system was designed to be used with a ride height that is 2" lower than stock, and anything lower than that will begine to have a negative effect on the performance of the suspention. You can go lower than that, but after that point, you will begine to trade off lower ride height for needed suspention travel.

On another note, the Hotchkis system comes with parts to allow you to convert over from stock style coil springs to 2.5" inner diameter race style coil springs so you can use different spring rates depending on your needs. As far as I know, this is the only coil over system for the car that allows this. Also, when they were telling me about the ride height limitations they told me that the struts they used on the Celica are the same style they use on their BMW kits and feature "digressive valveing". I don't know what digressive valveing is, but I thought it might mean something to you since you just got out of a car tuning scene that focused heavally on suspention, so I thought I would mention it. Actually, if you know what digressive valveing is, would you mind telling me iwantaturbo? I'm still learing about suspention.

[erok]

Here's a thread about digressive shock valving: http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13256&highlight=digressive

Hotchkis is expensive!

[iwantaturbo]

hotchkis is way overpriced....quality looks descent, but gimme a break, over 2grand and you dont get an awesome setup!?!?

[Gracing2000]

What kind of Tein coilover susp. should I get with mostly street racing and rarely autocrossing? Is the the SS fine or do I need something more aggressive?

[GTS LAID]

SS is fine.. if you need anything more aggressive you can always get tighter springs.

[TRD StreetRacing]

How much is the tein SS exactly????:confused: :confused:

[GTS LAID]

its about 1100 + shipping ... figure like $1200 total.

[TRD StreetRacing]

Any one/site that i can talk to for a good price?? i just have to wait for my tax return check (i filed it late):chuckles:

[GTS LAID]

sure theres bottle (titan motorsports) who's really excellent when it comes to that type of service... check the sponsors section for other companies that are selling them.. just call around and you'll get what you want..

[Gracing2000]

do I need a camber correction kit with the tein coil overs? I will probably be lowering it about 1.9 FR and 2.0 rear.

[GTS LAID]

you can do most adjustments using the back adjusters and using new bolts in the front...

[StrEerRacErgts]

what about a spring strut/shoch combination? i'm asking about this b/c money is an issue. and from what i hear springs ride better than coilovers. i would like to drop it 1.8 to 2 inches. or shoud i just save the money and get the coilover system..don't know what to do

[chameleon]

StrEerRacErgts, you have it backwards. Full coil overs ride better than springs because the shocks are designed to work with a lowered ride height(they are short shocks, which gives you back some of your suspention travel)

1.8 to 2" sounds too low for a shock/spring combo if you are interested in the performance of the car. If you get some adjustable shocks like Koni and set them so they are really stiff, you might be able to get away with it.

If you are interested in going the shock/spring route, You should look into Koni's.

[StrEerRacErgts]

thanx chameleon...