alot of creaking coming from rear of car

[AzN RyDe]

hey, i jus recently had my KYB AGX shocks put on my car along with tanabe sustec pro springs.
I also have the hotchkiss camber links and after puting the shox on, I had the camber readjusted to 0.

but now, I get major creaking in the back whenever going over any bumps or even just turning the car.

now im not sure if the creaking is coming from the tire rubbing the fender(the tire and the fender are about .5 inches apart) or if it is a poor installation.

any help would be appreciated
thanks

[evil eye]

The rear of my car has always creaked, whenever the car flexed especially. And this was when my suspension was stock. :(

[KSilver2000]

I don't know if it's my coilovers or what not, but mine always creaks too. I think it's normal.

[All_MTR_GTS]

YES!!!!!!!!!! IM NOT THE ONLY ONE!!!! i have this same problem when i installed my Ground Controls bugs the heck out of me but i have been getting used to it lately. Sorry to hear you have this problem with your setup i thought mine was because of my GC's because it never did it when i was using my goldlines.

[voidhawk]

Same problem. Adding a 3-pt rear tower strut bar helped a bit, but not all the way. Sun roof creaks too.

[DopeCelicaGT]

Yep, mine creaked when it was stock as well and only got worse after modifying the suspension. I guess it is just something you will have to get used to bro.

[sureFire]

it could either be one of two things:

1) you need to oil up the rubber lining that seals the car when you close the trunk

2) the angle of the rear spring brackets is off and instead of getting it right, the installer got lazy and just twisted the hell ouf of the springs so that the shock would bolt on to the lower suspension arm.

it's probably the first though, since the same thing happened to me. all i did was put a little dashboard dressing on the rubber and it has been silent ever since.

[hephaestus]

My car creaked bad from the back going over bumps also. For me it was coming from the camber link bushings that I hadn't lubed in over 15,000 miles. I had them lubed twice using the nipple and a grease gun since then. Still noise, so I had to loosen them and then grease it until the stuff was oozing out except for the right side one that I had to take semi apart because of a broken fitting. The creak is all gone.

[boostjunkie26]

Originally posted by hephaestus
My car creaked bad from the back going over bumps also. For me it was coming from the camber link bushings that I hadn't lubed in over 15,000 miles. I had them lubed twice using the nipple and a grease gun since then. Still noise, so I had to loosen them and then grease it until the stuff was oozing out except for the right side one that I had to take semi apart because of a broken fitting. The creak is all gone.

I think I might have this problem with my Hotchkis links as well. I greased them up a lot before install, but since then I've noticed a lot of squeeking returning . . . I can force the squeeking by bouncing up and down on the door sill.

Looks like I'll have to grease the hell outta them this weekend.

[Blue Bomber]

Hmm, so the stock camber link bushings need to be lubed? Mine haven't been lubed in probably 70K. :eek: I remember there were a few threads before asking about lubing points, but nobody ever replied. Are there any other places that have grease fittings that need to be frequently lubed?

[boostjunkie26]

Originally posted by Blue Bomber
Hmm, so the stock camber link bushings need to be lubed? Mine haven't been lubed in probably 70K. :eek: I remember there were a few threads before asking about lubing points, but nobody ever replied. Are there any other places that have grease fittings that need to be frequently lubed?

Sorry. I need to clarify. The grease fittings are only present on the Hotchkis links. To my knowledge (it's been about a month and a half since install), the stock links don't have the grease fittings. They utilize a rubber bushing that doesn't need to be lubed as generously, if at all.

On the otherhand, the Hotchkis links have a poly bushing that squeeks if not greased enough . . . and I guess enough is OVER doing the grease.

[GTpiMp]

Mine creaked when they were stock ... and now it is much worse.

[Blue Bomber]

Hmm, whenever I get my car back, I'm gonna grease the hell out of my stock links anyway. That noise is basically the only complaint I have about my car (besides the blown head gasket ;) ), so hopefully they are the cause of it. The noise has been happening since before I touched my suspension, so I know it has nothing to do with the rear springs.

[SeanCelicaGTS]

My squeaked too, after having the hotchkis camber links installed (i also have their springs). I figured out that one of the bolts for a camberlink was not quite tight enough. Yea, maybe lubing it up a bunch would have stopped the squeak but it was squeaking because it was not quite tight enough. I took it back to the shop and let them know and they tighted it back to spec and not a sound anymore!

I'd have have buddy push the car up & down and you can check where the squeak is coming from. Once you find it, retorque that bolt back to spec.

Nothing should squeak back there.

good luck!

Sean

[mukalicious]

turn your radios up. :gap:

[100to5]

Once I took my hotchkis sway bars off it stopped.

[Blue Lucifer]

Mine is due to the tanabe sustec springs I installed. When I installed them, I noticed that the bottom portion of the springs didn't line up nicely like the stock spring in the shock housing. I was confused, and there was nothing I could do. Finished the install, and the creaking started.

[teamERAcelica]

is there any other way to lube up the camber links without having to take them off the rear assembly? Just got an alignment so i dont wanna mess with it..

[mackeywatson]

Maybe the rubber lining that sits under the springs on the shock has worn down to the point where it touches metal. When I had my springs and KYB AGX shocks installed, my rubber linings had holes in them. It creaks a little for me, but not too much that it's bothersome.

[hjkim483]

I'm pissed as hell too. My creaking got worse after installing Tein SS Coilovers. I didn't even get the hotchkis camber links yet. I don't think it's coming from the suspension though. More like in the area of my quarterpanel or something.
I REALLY WANT TO get rid of my creaks coming from the back. I think I'll go talk to a body shop and take off my whole panels if I have to. It's worse in the morning too and I'm not a morning person. I'm cranky to begin with and hearing that creak just pisses the fvck outta me.
I did here something about the C-Pillars being miswelded and that's what causes the creaks.
I'm gonna get to the bottom of this for sure though.

[Blue Bomber]

Originally posted by hjkim483
I think I'll go talk to a body shop and take off my whole panels if I have to. That's gonna cost a bit, considering all the panels in the rear are welded on. The front fenders, hood, doors, and hatch are the only metal body panels that are bolt on.

[Lord Banshee]

I got a ton more creaking when i install my KYB's and Eibach Springs :(

[hjkim483]

Whoever finds a cure for this would be famous.

[voidhawk]

The celica's chasis is not very strong in the back - the more aftre market suspension you add the more it will flex and thus creak.

stock = no creaks
H&R springs = some creaks
ST sway = loud creaks
Tein SS = very loud creaks
3-pt tower bar = less creaks

that's about my history with the problem. ANything that increases the chasis stiffness will help, anything that increases the suspension stiffness makes it worse.

[hjkim483]

good thing I got those thick BeatRush/C-One 3pt rear strut bar.
My goal should be to get everything possible for stiffening the rear.
How big of a difference did you see when you installed the 3pt rear strut bar?

[hjkim483]

Will products like Tanabe Sustec Rear Under Brace and Brashboy Rear Brace Bar should lessen/eliminate the creaks then right?

[Blue Bomber]

Originally posted by hjkim483
Will products like Tanabe Sustec Rear Under Brace and Brashboy Rear Brace Bar should lessen/eliminate the creaks then right? Try getting the seams in your trunk between the struts fully welded. That should eliminate a lot of the panel movement. That's what I'm getting done eventually.

[hjkim483]

Interesting.... Could you take a picture when you get a chance and show us what you're talking about?

Thanks

[Blue Bomber]

All the areas that are covered in primer below were rewelded to increase strength:

http://newcelica.org/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=1802731

[voidhawk]

Nice! I wish I knew how to weld ....

[boostjunkie26]

I'm gonna have to look into this. I assume these panels are mild steel, correct? Hopefully, because my friend only has the components to weld mild steel.

[boostjunkie26]

I guess I should also mention that seam welding requires the stripping of all the surrounding paint from that area of the body. Also, the reverse side of that section of the body will need to be repainted as well as the heat from the welding process will melt away any paint and/or rust proofing.

[parkin lot pmpn]

i fixed all creaking after i installed my sportlin springs and camber links. at first i thought it was the camber links but as i drove more i finally went in ym trunk and beat the crap out of it to see what made the noise and here is a way to see if it is same noise for your car....ok get a pair of socks and open your trunk, you will see where the trunk meets the car and there are 2 pieces of plastic that connect when ever i hit a bump and my body flexes it creaks because these two things just make noise, put your sock inbetween the 2 locations and shut your trunk hard i mean reaqlly hard and then go for a drive......no more noises what so ever my car is extremely quiet now it is solid. well after i then took out the socks and cut a 1/4" piece of rubber and just glued it to the location and shut the trunk hard so therefore the trunk is wedged down so tight it will not creak....so there you go try what i did and see if it is the problem for you it helped me...please pm me if you have any other questions or just tell me if it worked...thanx everyone

[Moron]

Yup, I moved the trunk lid around while it was closed and I could hear that damn creak.... Thanks, I finally found someone who understands the frustrations of this Celi. Do you have popping noises when you close the windows all the way? If you have a cure for this I would be most happy.

[genax]

i just installed some coilovers and my car made creaking? noises. to fix the problem i raised the car took out all four tires rechecked my hurried install (2 hours). after doing some diagnostics. i noticed the rear aluminum round black thing behind the rotor was rubbing. after turning the handle a couple times i noticed the stock camber link (i think) was rubbing as well. i just rebent the black thing adjusted the coilovers as best i could and rechecked my torquing job along with all the bushings. never noticed how puny everything is in our cars. especially the axles and the endlinks.

[2002GTS]

All I have to say is strut brace. The creaking is from body flex due to the unibody design. Mine does it really bad too.

[slidr]

Originally posted by sureFire
it could either be one of two things:


2) the angle of the rear spring brackets is off and instead of getting it right, the installer got lazy and just twisted the hell ouf of the springs so that the shock would bolt on to the lower suspension arm.




Uhhh, ****. I have excessive noise coming from the back of my car, and I though it was blown shocks. When I put my springs on, I twisted the strut assembly in the rear in order for it to align correctly, but I made sure that the rubber piece on the bottom was still aligned.

Is this still a problem?

[2002GTS]

All that noise you guys are hearing is body and chassis flex. If you put a TRD rear strut tower brace in and some trunk braces you will not notice it anymore. The braces will keep the rear of the car from flexing so much and you will have no noise, also a roll cage will help it too.

[Blue Bomber]

My car made the squeaking noise stock, and was slightly reduced when I installed my 3pt rear strut bar.

[DopeCelicaGT]

My car did it stock and well it has gotten worse ever since. I am thinking that these things are POS's. As soon as I get used to one sound then another one comes. You guys should take a ride in my car if you think you have problems.

[genax]

maybe get an alignment and then lube the bushings and check to see if the endlinks arent to tight or sitting to high where it rubs. im sure when the alignment is off it effects the natural suspension bits and amplifies what has always been...this coming from my exp.

[genax]

hey blue is it just me or is your car rewelded on the seams. if not you have some nice beaded welds and a dirty black interior:)

[matadorgts]

I have an 03 GT-S and the cracking noise got worst after installing my TRD drop... I kind of like got used to it already....

[evil eye]

Originally posted by genax
hey blue is it just me or is your car rewelded on the seams. if not you have some nice beaded welds and a dirty black interior:)

Originally posted by Blue Bomber
All the areas that are covered in primer below were rewelded to increase strength:

[Blue Bomber]

Originally posted by evil eye
:werd:

Also, that's not my car. ;)