Would you buy a Saturn if...

[CeliCar]

.....it was the Vauxhaul Lightning?

Assuming the shape will be as close to the concept as the Solstice is and they stick to the engine choice for this one.


[quote]
Saturn

[TRD GT-S]

if it has dent resistant doors :gap:

[Blue Bomber]

Side: :thumbup:
Interior: :thumbup:
Rear: :thumbup:
Front: :ugh:

[Kuz]

no

[KSilver2000]

Yea......I like everything except the very sharp front nose. Hopefully it'll have dent resistent doors too heh.

[ArchangelX]

It's a Vauxhall, you dorks...that's the way their front is, although this one is a lil' more pointy. It's their Trademark. :gap:

And hell yeah..that's one sweet azz lookin' concept. I like it MUCH better than the Slowstice. :chuckles:

[XYRCNCP]

:thumbup:

[xspwolf]

Vauxhall VX220 and VXR220 are currently based of Elise and are built by Lotus with 2.0 Turbo Ecotec engine, putting out 220hp and 221lbs @ crank for 0-62 in 4.2 secs (VX220 4.9 secs)...

http://vauxhall.co.uk/assets/vxr/galleryImages/onTheRoad/vx220/01Model_Images/vxr220_03.jpg

http://vauxhall.co.uk/assets/vxr/galleryImages/onTheRoad/vx220/01Model_Images/vxr220_04.jpg

Very doubtful that new model would be build based on Kappa platform since current VX220 weights around 2100 lbs while kappa is very heavy platform and would add 50% more weight to the car

[Littleguy]

If I'm ever in a position where I consider buying a Saturn I'm gonna have to take stock of my life and decide where I went wrong.

[pimp20g]

if it were less than $15000 or around that i think i would

[Blue Bomber]

Originally posted by xspwolf
http://vauxhall.co.uk/assets/vxr/galleryImages/onTheRoad/vx220/01Model_Images/vxr220_03.jpg

http://vauxhall.co.uk/assets/vxr/galleryImages/onTheRoad/vx220/01Model_Images/vxr220_04.jpg Looks like a 2G MR-S/4G MR2. ;)

[F35-JSF]

Originally posted by Blue Bomber
Side: :thumbup:
Interior: :thumbup:
Rear: :thumbup:
Front: :ugh:

[F22-Raptor]

Not too shabby I would have to see the price tho. If it was in the neighbourhood of about 20k I would proly rock it. But we all know it will be more likely around 40.

[FriedRice]

Originally posted by F22-Raptor
Not too shabby I would have to see the price tho. If it was in the neighbourhood of about 20k I would proly rock it. But we all know it will be more likely around 40.

i..... would find other places to put my money.

[Dry Ice]

Originally posted by FriedRice
i..... would find other places to put my money.
:werd:

[S|Lv3rBu||et]

:hitit:

:drool:

[RADR1732]

Saturn might have a Kappa Platform vehicle very soon. It will more than likely come in the form of the Saturn Curve.

http://www.supercars.net/PicFetch?pic=2004_saturn_curve-3.jpg

Richard

[SpankinGT-S]

Originally posted by RADR1732
Saturn might have a Kappa Platform vehicle very soon. It will more than likely come in the form of the Saturn Curve.

http://www.supercars.net/PicFetch?pic=2004_saturn_curve-3.jpg


Looks cool. Those tires look very nice for some reason.
Richard

[Gas-n-Grease]

Looks nice, but im not crazy about it. I think its a tad too edgey. I think they should make something a little more smooth lined, like cars of the past. Those were SWEET! Dont like those tail lights. I have a thing against "euro-tail lights".

[lowendfrequency]

I'll never buy a saturn as long as I know whats good for myself.... hell the new v6 tib is nice but I know enough about hyundais to stay away from it.

[F22-Raptor]

You wouldn't rock it for 20k? Comeone you spent that much on your celica for a lot less performance :D

[F35-JSF]

Originally posted by RADR1732
Saturn might have a Kappa Platform vehicle very soon. It will more than likely come in the form of the Saturn Curve.

http://www.supercars.net/PicFetch?pic=2004_saturn_curve-3.jpg

Richard

Not bad.

[treeh8r]

Originally posted by Littleguy
If I'm ever in a position where I consider buying a Saturn I'm gonna have to take stock of my life and decide where I went wrong.

:stupid:

[F22-Raptor]

Originally posted by treeh8r
:stupid:

Its funny now but I actually wanted one for my first car..

[Mistrimeat]

No.

[MarkyMark]

I wouldnt buy it if it came with a year of free lap dances

[Blue Bomber]

Originally posted by lowendfrequency
hell the new v6 tib is nice but I know enough about hyundais to stay away from it. Actually, the current Hyundais have a great reliability record, very close to that of Toyota and Honda.Originally posted by MarkyMark
I wouldnt buy it if it came with a year of free lap dances Now that's just :gay:. :chuckles:

[Brett]

Yeah, well hyundais don't have the long term reliability as toyota or honda. Image is everything, and theirs is tarnished.

btw. I dont like either of the concepts, but I defiantely like the Vx Lotus!

[Daemon]

It's an Opel Speedster/ Speedster Turbo in the rest of Europe.

[treeh8r]

Originally posted by Blue Bomber
Actually, the current Hyundais have a great reliability record, very close to that of Toyota and Honda.

but would you buy one? OT: your sig. links to buy stuff; any links to the car the car-toon image is based on?

[Blue Bomber]

Originally posted by treeh8r
but would you buy one?At the moment, no. They really have nothing that appeals to me. The Tib V6 would be the only one, but it's too heavy to handle that well, though it looks very nice, IMO.Originally posted by treeh8r
OT: your sig. links to buy stuff; any links to the car the car-toon image is based on? http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=1364&size=big&password=&sort=1&cat=500 :)

[ringthree]

Originally posted by Brett
Yeah, well hyundais don't have the long term reliability as toyota or honda. Image is everything, and theirs is tarnished.


Actually, they changed production methods in 2000 which resluted in the much greater initial quality and will, thus, over time improve long term reliability.

Image is somethings, but definitely not everything. Those that have knowledge can take advantage while those that work on "image" will follow later.

Would I buy a Hyundai today? No, because nothing they have appeals to me as of now. I would have no real fears about their reliability compared to the other companies.

[Bobbeh]

That Vauhxuall Lightning looks great.. that Saturn car looks :gay:

[xspwolf]

Originally posted by Blue Bomber
Actually, the current Hyundais have a great reliability record, very close to that of Toyota and Honda.Now that's just :gay:. :chuckles:

no they dont... in actuall JD Power dependability survey of 3 yr old cars, Hyundai and Kia were at the bottom of the sheets. Report just came out and is consistent with other similar reports.

When you said "great reliability record", what you actually meant is initial quality study that Hyundai did well on this year. However that study only tells of any issues ppl report in first 90 days. For example, Scion did poorly on that report, and biggest xA complaint in the book was "harsh ride". So basically it doesnt distinguish between issues, and anything that people report counts the same (ie stiff ride and engine blown is counted the same).

[CeliCar]

Originally posted by Bobbeh
That Vauhxuall Lightning looks great.. that Saturn car looks :gay:

That is why GM dropped the idea of the Saturn Curve concept because it got a less positive reaction at the auto shows. The VX is what we are supposed to get.

I think Pontiac and Saturn have had some of the worst cars out there for a long time with terrible designs inside and out. Built cheap and feel cheap, dated before they even hit the road. For all of my dislike for them though I am not going to slam these new cars until there is something real to be judged.

[mangoboy7]

Originally posted by lowendfrequency
I'll never buy a saturn as long as I know whats good for myself.... hell the new v6 tib is nice but I know enough about hyundais to stay away from it.

I don't know if anyone else has posted but Hyndai shares its position for the "The 2nd Best in Quality" right next to Honda(Newer Models apply).

[deviant]

Originally posted by Blue Bomber
Side: :thumbup:
Interior: :thumbup:
Rear: :thumbup:
Front: :ugh:

the front is ok exept for the bottom half. i'd trade my celi for it if it never hit production and i could tell everyone it was a prototype mercedes roadster! :chuckles:

[treeh8r]

Originally posted by ringthree
Actually, they changed production methods in 2000 which resluted ....

So thats how they're selling them...

:nono:

[oneflyasianguy]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by CeliCar
[B]







http://www.cardesignnews.com/news/2003/030514vauxhall-lightning/images/vauxhall-lightning024.jpg



i want, no i NEED those rims :drool: the same predicament happened to me when the srt-4 dropped, and my answer will remain the same, no matter what the fock it is, I WILL NEVER INVEST IN A GM.

[WillyWonka]

Originally posted by Blue Bomber
Side: :thumbup:
Interior: :thumbup:
Rear: :thumbup:
Front: :ugh:
If the front is the least appealing, the rest makes up for it. Closely replicating this car would be a good move for Saturn after looking at their production history. The performance hopefully will be bumped up from the typical Saturn as well.

[Bobbeh]

Originally posted by CeliCar
That is why GM dropped the idea of the Saturn Curve concept because it got a less positive reaction at the auto shows. The VX is what we are supposed to get.

You're getting the Solstice. :ugh:

[larryd]

Originally posted by CeliCar


http://www.cardesignnews.com/news/2003/030514vauxhall-lightning/images/vauxhall-lightning024.jpg

Yummy.

[ruCelika]

:hitit:

It looks tight! But not reliable :ugh:

[Bobbeh]

How does it look unreliable? Its still a concept car.

[mjd1001]

The latest I heard is the car Satun is going to get for 2006 is going to be just like the silver vauxhaul pictured above. The most noticable change would be to the front end, as it might have to e redesigned a bit to meet US crash test standards.

GM's latest admission was that they realized Saturns were getting boring. The Redline Vue and Redline Ion are the quickest way to try to fix this. The new Roadster will be the first REAL attempt to put some legitimate excitement into the brand and get people into Saturn Showrooms.

If you would consider buying this car when it comes out, I think there may be some good news in that it won't be priced excessivly high. The past couple months GM has admitted they missed the mark by introducing the GTO and SSR at too high of a price. Plus, GM is SO reliant on people buying their cars so they can make money off the financing, I don't think you'll see new Cars by GM in the next few years with too high of a price (Well, with the exception of the Cobalt, I think they are going to make that a bit too expensive at launch).

[Quentin]

I would buy a car pretty much from any company. Now n days w/all the technolgy cars are becoming quite good and relibale. But i would not buy a kia or a honda (honda is relibale and all but i would never buy one). And kia well kia....