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Blue Bomber
07-15-2004, 08:03 PM
From Edmunds.com:
The Solstice we drove, however, is a dead ringer for the model shown as a concept at the 2002 Detroit Auto Show. And we were told by Pontiac spokesman Jim Hopson that, save a few minor details, we were looking at what would appear in showrooms late in the summer of 2005.

The Solstice is the first General Motors vehicle to use hydroformed body panels. Hydroforming has been used to create the frames of GM's full-size pickups since 1999 and the frames of C5 Corvettes since the mid-'90s, but never for body components. Much like it sounds, hydroforming is the process of using fluid to shape metal.

The cabin is surprisingly roomy. There's plenty of foot room and the steering wheel cleared our knees and thighs by a wide margin.

Unlike some other roadsters, we didn't feel shoehorned into a tight spot for the privilege of ragtop motoring. The only complaint we'd make is that many interior surfaces, such as the cowl in front of the passenger, are too hard.

Pontiac sourced the manual gearbox from the same company that supplies the six-speed shifter for the Honda S2000.

The shifter felt good moving through the gears, with short throws to distinct engagements. The fairly fat steering wheel also felt good in our hands and is firmly connected to the rack-and-pinion steering system. Only rigorous driving would confirm this, but we suspect the Solstice's four-wheel independent suspension, forged aluminum control arms, monotube shocks, coil springs and 18-inch wheels and tires will combine to provide excellent handling response and much driving pleasure. And the standard four-wheel disc brakes should bring it down from speed quickly in a controlled manner.

At 2,860 pounds, the Solstice is no lightweight. Pontiac claims the new 170-horsepower, 2.4-liter variable-valve version of the Ecotec DOHC four-cylinder engine is enough to move it from zero to 60 mph in just over seven seconds... And, said Hopson, the Ecotec engine could easily be supercharged or turbocharged in the future.

Even naturally aspirated, Pontiac's 0-60 time for the Solstice is just about a half-second more than it takes the Mazdaspeed Miata, which we see as the Solstice's closest competitor.

The Solstice may have the edge in price. A Mazdaspeed Miata runs about $26,000, but Pontiac says even a loaded Solstice will come out under $25K. In fact, when the production Solstice was unveiled at the 2004 Detroit Auto Show, GM Chairman of North American Operations Bob Lutz promised it would cost less than $20,000. Many predicted that would be impossible.

They were wrong. "We're going to offer a model of this car for under $20,000," Hopson said. "That's a line in the sand." He assured us the base model would retail at $19,995 when the Solstice arrives in showrooms next year. The base version is not some bare-bones version, either, he said, but includes the aforementioned 18-inch alloys, four-wheel disc brakes and the aluminum sport suspension.

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Ugly Pete
07-15-2004, 08:13 PM
eh. i dont care too much for the body style, but the interior is decent looking.

analogvoid
07-15-2004, 08:41 PM
Gotta see it in person, but for now.. i'd pass.

oamisnwa
07-15-2004, 09:18 PM
haha they were offering model at under $20K and yeah they did.. $19.9K! lol! but anyway wow good review, i like the car a lot!! good price for a roadster!

Tikked Again
07-15-2004, 10:02 PM
What is it with huge wheels these days....honestly

Car doesn't look to bad. I'll have to test drive one. But I think they need to through a little uuumph in the driveline to make it a bit more exciting.

02TrDCeLiCa
07-15-2004, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Ugly Pete
eh. i dont care too much for the body style, but the interior is decent looking.

tru that i dono about the front looks wierd as shyt

Motor
07-15-2004, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Ugly Pete
eh. i dont care too much for the body style, but the interior is decent looking.

I dunno about that, I'm the opposite. I dig the exterior, but the interior has me scatching my head. The center console design looks like sh!t, but the materials don't "look" cheap, which I guess is a plus. Whatever .........

ArchangelX
07-16-2004, 01:35 AM
The interior reminds me of the Supra. I don't like the front... :wtf:

143hawaii
07-16-2004, 01:43 AM
I remember when Pontiac first discussed the Solstice, they "said" they were aiming at a low 2000lbs curb weight. The prototype pics made it look like a hardcore lightweight roadster. Instead it turned out to be overweight and underpowered IMO. :thumbdown

At least it looks pretty good to me. It sort of has that old school roadster look to it. Although I'm not a fan of that cream colored interior nor the massive wheels they decided to slap on. But that's just me...:wiggle:

F22-Raptor
07-16-2004, 05:47 AM
Nice

WillyK
07-16-2004, 05:57 AM
The interior is nice, the rest is shit.

ringthree
07-16-2004, 05:58 AM
I would have to agree with overweight and underpowered.

When designing a roadster that is were you start, light weight. You dont start with a design and then build the car around that. Then you are just slapping bits together without an idea of a whole...

F35-JSF
07-16-2004, 07:03 AM
I be looking for a front body kit before I even thought about buying one. That front grill is just all wrong for that car:thumbdown The interior looks nice though.

F22-Raptor
07-16-2004, 07:09 AM
Yep I def like the interior

Blue Bomber
07-16-2004, 07:31 AM
It may seem overweight in terms of the Miata and MR-S, but remember:

S2000 = 2835 lbs
Z3 = 2910 lbs
Z4 = 2998 lbs
Z8 = 3495 lbs

Sure those cars have more power, but I believe the engine in the Solstice is the same one that's turboed for the Saturn Ion and Chevy Cobalt, so I doubt it will be long before a higher performance version is released.

vvtlikick
07-16-2004, 08:00 AM
At $20K, a 170hp engine in a 2900lb RWD car is adequate.

At $25K, it takes 220hp to be adequate. :)

Red01GTS
07-16-2004, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by vvtlikick
At $20K, a 170hp engine in a 2900lb RWD car is adequate.

At $25K, it takes 220hp to be adequate. :)

I love it, it looks great! Plus, I know that engine quite well too, it's just begging for a turbo!

Damn, I want one!!!

CeliCar
07-16-2004, 12:07 PM
It is heavier yes but much larger too. This is more of a roadster for people who aren't midgets. I'm average height and thin and half the roadsters out there still feel like I am in a powerwheels. The front is strange head on. I am with F35-JSF about it needing a body kit to fix that. If they offer a S/C or T/C then I think it will do well.

143hawaii
07-16-2004, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Blue Bomber
It may seem overweight in terms of the Miata and MR-S, but remember:

S2000 = 2835 lbs
Z3 = 2910 lbs
Z4 = 2998 lbs
Z8 = 3495 lbs

Sure those cars have more power, but I believe the engine in the Solstice is the same one that's turboed for the Saturn Ion and Chevy Cobalt, so I doubt it will be long before a higher performance version is released.

It may not appear to be heavy by comparison but you're ignoring it's horrible power-to-weight ratio. I've heard more people that I can count call the MR2 Spyder underpowered in stock form but the Solstice comes in with an even worse p-2-w ratio. Yes it could be "modded" with a TC/SC but then again the samething could be said about any car. :thumbdown

At least it looks nice!.... :)

Bobbeh
07-16-2004, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by ArchangelX
The interior reminds me of the Supra. I don't like the front... :wtf:

What the hell are you on about, looks nothing like it :)

Its not as nice as the VX Lightning which will kick its ass.

PapaPump
07-17-2004, 06:06 AM
Originally posted by Bobbeh
What the hell are you on about, looks nothing like it :)

Its not as nice as the VX Lightning which will kick its ass.

Bobbeh, look at the two big round gagues and how the side of the dash wraps around the driver.

I thought I was the only one who thought so but ArchangelX beat me to it. The interior looks a lot like a MKIV Supra. Good call!

Well, I must say that for under 20k Pontiac FINALLY has done something right!!! They definitely have a winner here. I think the car is beautiful and I feel (and hope) they will sell well.

For that price it looks more upscale, power is decent but if forced induction is feasible, then I wouldn't complain. 0-60 in just over 7 secs is pretty quick. Not blindingly fast but quick enough.

Bobbeh
07-17-2004, 06:09 AM
Erm, my Supra has 3 round guages.... and the dash is actually as angled toward the driver, THAT isnt. Its flat. Its more like the Alfa 156.

ArchangelX
07-17-2004, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by Bobbeh
What the hell are you on about, looks nothing like it :)

Its not as nice as the VX Lightning which will kick its ass.

Not really in looks...but in style...it has the same type of curved, looping console that starts at the shifter and wraps up around the steering wheel...you know what I'm saying?

See? :gap: It's okay...copy from greatness. :chuckles:

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Bobbeh
07-17-2004, 12:32 PM
:no:

cool2miketlu
07-17-2004, 12:47 PM
I would replace that bumper with full bumper replacement kit... replace the steering wheel...
Can anybody guess what I hate about the car? :chuckles: