Would these be better off on a kenworth or a celica?

[Liqquid]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7911927088&category=33742


some vital info is missing, I don't see an a/r.... but the housing is giant? price is pretty good

[Liqquid]

ok... marc? anyone?

[Bing]

Getting a compression map would be usefull.

[JMS003]

The compressor side is for a Celica, the turbine side is for a Supra! I hate these turbos, not enough balls for a Supra, and too much balls for a Celica. What the hell do you put this on??

[Smaay]

Actually Its for an MR2...the Supras didnt have to twin entry...gee you have a 3S-GTE, you should have caught that....

[JMS003]

Originally posted by Smaay
Actually Its for an MR2...the Supras didnt have to twin entry...gee you have a 3S-GTE, you should have caught that....

LOL. Just because its twin enty does not mean its for an Mr2! That is not an MR2 flange its a T4 twin entry flange. It has a 4" outlet, thats not for an MR2 sorry. This turbo bolts to an HKS single turbo twin entry manifold for a Twin Turbo Supra. I got one if you want to see it.

[Boosted2.0]

Some dude in Europe that posts on the alltrac boards just went 12.9 in a ST185 CS edition with one of those turbos, front mount, filter, exhaust and a stock ECU and fuel system. I haven't seen a dyno but fron the sound of it it may be a good match for a mildly tuned 3S

[Liqquid]

Originally posted by JMS003
The compressor side is for a Celica, the turbine side is for a Supra! I hate these turbos, not enough balls for a Supra, and too much balls for a Celica. What the hell do you put this on??

is this because of the small displacement engine, cylinder head flow, or just because of how the 1zz/2zz sit with stock internals?

you guys just keep talking lol I'll learn along the way by reading:gap:

[JMS003]

Originally posted by Boosted2.0
Some dude in Europe that posts on the alltrac boards just went 12.9 in a ST185 CS edition with one of those turbos, front mount, filter, exhaust and a stock ECU and fuel system. I haven't seen a dyno but fron the sound of it it may be a good match for a mildly tuned 3S

Ok are we talking about a 1zz street Celica, or a 3sgte drag celica? I highly dought he is running a 4" outlet turbo, if he is, its not a daily driver! If we are talking about a drag car hell, you can run a Greddy T-88H turbo which happens to use the same T4 twin entry flange setup as that turbo! I have one of those too if you want to see it.

Originally posted by Liqquid
is this because of the small displacement engine, cylinder head flow, or just because of how the 1zz/2zz sit with stock internals?

you guys just keep talking lol I'll learn along the way by reading:gap:

Its because of the small displacement. Internals are not an issue when it comes to turbo size, only when it comes to how much boost you plan to run. Actually a larger turbo is better with stock internals because they run cooler than there smaller counterparts the down side is larger lag time.

[Boosted2.0]

Originally posted by JMS003
Ok are we talking about a 1zz street Celica, or a 3sgte drag celica? I highly dought he is running a 4" outlet turbo, if he is, its not a daily driver! If we are talking about a drag car hell, you can run a Greddy T-88H turbo which happens to use the same T4 twin entry flange setup as that turbo! I have one of those too if you want to see it.


Its his daily driver, not a purpose built drag car. Same brand and def. looked just like that one but said it was a 3" outlet if memory serves.

[Liqquid]

Originally posted by JMS003
Its because of the small displacement. Internals are not an issue when it comes to turbo size, only when it comes to how much boost you plan to run. Actually a larger turbo is better with stock internals because they run cooler than there smaller counterparts the down side is larger lag time.

makes sense... so how about the casing size, I know there's a size differance between a t3/t04b and a t3/to4e... the latter will run cooler? or does that have nothing to do with it?

how about that t3/ super 60 deal I seen marc talking about... what else would be ok to run on the 2zz now, but be able to support 400 hp on forged internals without getting the air way too hot?

I'm also wondering about ic piping and how it relates to the turbo... if I use 60mm piping (2.5") I need to match the turbo up with that on its ______ connection? that's not the outlet is it?

[Boosted2.0]

GT30 would work - can actually make like 450 with it and its supposed to be a very efficient unit. Plus its a Ballbearing turbo :)

[Liqquid]

Originally posted by Boosted2.0
GT30 would work - can actually make like 450 with it and its supposed to be a very efficient unit. Plus its a Ballbearing turbo :)

C'mon.... can't find that any cheaper than $2000+

there is like 9 differant versions too, some capable of flowing enough air for 700 horses :AF:

[JMS003]

Originally posted by Liqquid
makes sense... so how about the casing size, I know there's a size differance between a t3/t04b and a t3/to4e... the latter will run cooler? or does that have nothing to do with it?

how about that t3/ super 60 deal I seen marc talking about... what else would be ok to run on the 2zz now, but be able to support 400 hp on forged internals without getting the air way too hot?

I'm also wondering about ic piping and how it relates to the turbo... if I use 60mm piping (2.5") I need to match the turbo up with that on its ______ connection? that's not the outlet is it?

Get the T3/TO4E Hybrid. Cheap, pretty durable, parts are cheap and readily available, and capable of over 400+ wheel hp. The spool up should not be too bad.

Yes it will run a little cooler than the B if you are using a larger trim wheel. The E housing flows more air any way you take it.

This place has them for cheap. http://www.turbocalculator.com/sale-garrett.php

I would get the 60 trim compressor wheel and the .48 A/R turbine housing. If you get a smaller trim wheel it will spool faster but will be harder to make the HP. From experience customers always come back for the larger 60 trim in the end. BOOST IS LIKE CRACK, ONCE YOU GET THE FIRST HIT YOU ALWAYS WANT MORE!

http://www.sdsefi.com/features/aug03corolla.htm
This is my brothers Corolla 1.6L 4AGE.
The last time we were on the dyno we made 325hp to the wheels @ 25psi on the dyno. He has run as much as 28psi on this turbo.
He is running a T3/T04E 60trim but he has a .63 turbine. His head is bone stock. The boost comes on around 4500rpm, and the rpm limit is set to 8500rpm. (He is about to strap on a 20 valve head, so his HP should make a drastic jump).

On your car with the 2ZZ head, 1.8L and the .48 turbine, boost should come on around the 3000 to 4000 area, and you should have no problem making the 400 wheel hp goal.