Look at my times. I need help

[vis-celica]

Well I went to the track for the first time ever last night and, well did pretty ****ty. I had on my 18's so that probably didnt help but I did have AEM cai, trd extended, b&M, TRD LSD, Blitz Active Clutch. Anyways here are my times and you guys can tell me how bad I did.

60- 2.829
1/8- 9.957
1/4-14.792 @101.59
got a ****ty launch but did o.k. after that.

60- 2.341
1/8- 9.944
1/4- 15.309 @90.84
this time I got off the line decently, but I hit rev limiter in 3rd and never shifted into 4th, so I probably would have had another 14 sec qtr. if I wouldn't have let off.

The really weird thing about the whole night was my friend with his GST eclipse with intake, exhaust and blow off valve and automatic to say the least ran a 14.0 @84. We couldn't believe it. And on the streets when we race I usually beat him by about 2 car lengths at least and now at the track he kicks my ass. Needless to say I was pissed about my times so I went on the street after it was all over and decided to do the same launches, and of course on the regular street my car would hook up like a bat out of hell and hardly spin at all and just fly. I can't understand what went on. i launched around 4500 every time to. Someone please look at these times and tell me whats up.

[Kit99bar]

101 mph trap? Wow, if you get a good launch, you could easily be the first 13 sec NA celica

try slipping the clutch out more

[Brett]

Your 60 foot is HORRIBLE on the first one. You need to get your launch down, and you need to understand that launching at the track is different then the street, so try new things. You should put your 16's back on, and try slip-dumping at 5000 rpms (should catch pretty good with your LSD, if it spins try lower) My cars stock, and i can hit 2.3's so you need to really practice your launching. With your mods you should be hitting 2.2's and lower for the 60 foot. Anyways. If I where you I wouldnt get discourged. It was your first time out after all.

[IRL]

the first run trapping at 100+ mph??? That has to be a typo! If it isnt...how could you manage 10mph less on the 2nd run??? Did you hit the brakes before you crossed the line??

I think the highest trap I have ever seen on a n/a GT-S was 99mph. If you managed 101mph...damn man, you got a hella a fast Celica there!

[mirconrice]

hmm a 60 foot of 2.8 and still a 14.7 at 101. That is either a typo or you running nos. Thats is the only way to explain the trap speed. This is what I think, you shot your nos in 3rd gear cause at 1/8 at 9.9 which means your trap speed there is around 70-75 mph. So to the quartermile you need to gain 26-31 mph and thats alot from a ****ty 2.8 60' foot. Thats what I think, its either a typo or you running Nos.

Oh next time you go to the track, run your stock rims if possible. 18s are going to slow you down alot. And your friend with the GST doing 14 flat at 84 is nearly impossible. I don't care what he has done to it but doing it at 84 MPH in a 1/4 in 14.0 is BS. There might be something wrong with the sensor at the track. You probably missed type his times. At 15.0 at 84 mph is possible for a GST with intake and exhaust. Its also a auto so the highest he can get is high 14s. I have seen a couple of GST auto both convertible and coupe and they ran low 15s. If you upgrade the stock turbos for the GST, its another story. But with stock turbo, I can't see it happening. Thats all I have to say.

But yeah you need to seriously work on your launch. Its really bad. How is the active blitz clutch?

[kuruptgt]

sometimes at e-town debris gets on the track and trips the sensors. 14.0 at 84 means that he went fast as hell down the track and hit the brakes at the end which would mean he would go faster then a 14.0. nah

[Kit99bar]

he said he didnt' shift to 4th

Originally posted by IRL
the first run trapping at 100+ mph??? That has to be a typo! If it isnt...how could you manage 10mph less on the 2nd run??? Did you hit the brakes before you crossed the line??

[vis-celica]

Well to clear a few things up I dont' have nos so that is not the problem. But if you look at what I said about my second run as someone has already noticed is that I never shifted into 4th on my 15.3 pass, what I did was hit the rev limiter in 3rd and then let off the gas and coasted through the marker basically. I will try and use my friends scanner and scan the slips so you guys can see them for yourself. Those of you who are wondering why the times are so good is because that the Ennis Dragway is supposedly one of the fastest tracks in the US. It has some type of new track material that is supposed to be really good. so until I get the thing scanned you will have to surfice with my times.

[larryd]

dude i dont mean to be a doubter or anything but this is impossible

60- 2.829
1/8- 9.957
1/4-14.792 @101.59

unless you are running forced induction of some sort, that is impossible.. to run a 2.8 60ft time and still manage a 9.9 and a 14.7

[icyjaws]

Originally posted by IRL
I think the highest trap I have ever seen on a n/a GT-S was 99mph. If you managed 101mph...damn man, you got a hella a fast Celica there!
i ran in the 100+mph range 3 times 2 diff nights my best was like 100.5 w/ et of like 14.5. also ran a 14.34@99.xx that night

[Maelfyn]

Larry is right. That time is impossible without nitrous. And your second run is better driven, yet is not consistent with the mph on your first run. Care to tell the full story?

[BillWS6Formula]

Well, it's not outside the realm of possibility as I read it. You can't compare to the second run simply because the guy has already said he just let off in third and coasted through. The 101mph on the first run is not too far off what some guys with similar mods have posted here - in the 98 to 100mph range, so sure on a good day with the right weather condition 101 is not too big of a stretch. As for the ET on the first run, well the 2.8 sixty killed that - as well as the 1/8th time which is skewed even more when you run a bad 60'. Look at that first run and say take off .6 to give a 60' of 2.2 and you're looking at a run right around 14 even which is right in the ball park for a trap speed of ~100 mph or so.
Also remember any time you have bad wheelspin, your ET suffers, but trap speed usually goes up.

So yea, seems plausible to me :).

[oldster]

Agreed Bill, sometimes we tend to hold too tight a relationship between et and mph. I had a 70 340 Cuda that would run 14.0 all day and never saw 100MPH, usually was in the 97 range. :)

[BillWS6Formula]

Especially with drivers not familiar with the track (or car) or new to drag racing oldster - the ET/trap speed relationship can be all over the map. I known I've done my own share of adding to points on that map LOL! ;)

[Kit99bar]

I got a 15.2 @ 96 with a 2.8 60ft a week ago

since his trap speeds are so much faster than mine, it is very possible to get a 14.7

[larryd]

yes but from my experiences in driving a Celica Im not even looking at his MPH..im saying pulling a 2.8 60ft time he would never in a million years pull a 9.9 1/8th. but then again what do i know..anything is possible and if so thats one hell of a recovery..

[vis-celica]

Im sorry so many people doubt me. But I guess it really doesnt matter. Give me a day or two and I will have my actual slips posted up here and then we can do some more comparing. Oh and by the way ever since I put on my blitz active clutch and lightened flywheel, my car has felt like it pulls harder on the top end, whick may have something to do with my high ET.

[jotan82]

i'd like to see the slips...

seems miraculous to me..

good run

[Miguel GTS]

i trust you phil

[mirconrice]

well it would explain it alot if you post your MPH at the 1/8 and the time for your 1000.

[Kit99bar]

doesn't sound impossible to me

Here was my slip:

60: 2.843
330: 6.841
1/8: 10.093
MPH: 76.09
1000: 12.874
1/4: 15.231
MPH: 96.18

my track is at 1100 altitude and it was 65 degrees out.
His trap speeds are way higher than me so it seems totally possible. Just imagine if he was spinning all the way up to the 60 ft marker, then right afterwards he got traction and was in lift.

Originally posted by larryd
yes but from my experiences in driving a Celica Im not even looking at his MPH..im saying pulling a 2.8 60ft time he would never in a million years pull a 9.9 1/8th. but then again what do i know..anything is possible and if so thats one hell of a recovery..

[larryd]

well if it is true then get your 60ft down and get to the 13s man..its that simple

[tofu]

hey man u ran in ennis at the texas motorplex? thats where i got a 2.060 60 ft time and not many ppl believe me....

[Vroom_Vroom]

can someone explain to me how to read time slips! :) hehehe i see people post em and i see people say how to launch and etc.. any help is appreciated :)..i can read em but i cant explain em...

[larryd]

basically comparing them to the better ones and knowing where you are at shifting and what not at certain points on the timeslips

[Vroom_Vroom]

ohh i c..

[celica gte racing]

analysing straight line acceleration to this extent... LOL you guys crack me up

[larryd]

got a problem with drag racing?