97 GSX or 98 ITR

[pepsiman]

what would you guys buy?

97 GSX stock w/ 100k miles for < $7k

or

98 clean ITR w/ jdm hid frontend w/ 50k miles for $17k

[larryd]

Tough choice cuz they are really two completely different cars. Are you looking for something more fun to drive or something to straight up obliterate all cars on the road?

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

Id say ITR. Thats a good price for an ITR.

[CeliCar]

I found a stock 99 GSX last year at a dealer for right around $13,000 with 22,000 miles on it. Sure it was sold before I even had a chance to get in the thing but you can probably find one for a little more cash with less miles.

[heltor2]

The Acura will last much longer.

Integra all the way.

Got a '99 LS with 70K miles, never a single problem with it. Strong transmission too.

[DnDs00GTS]

Get the GSX and use the other 10k that you saved to make the engine fast and bullet proof!!!

[sleepy celica]

ITR all the way. reliability is a big concern regarding eclipses.

[blackcelicaauto]

GSX much more power...and isn't it ITR only differ from GSR by a bit? :).... bUT 17k? naw! ...

[DopeCelicaGT]

Because of the huge price difference I would say go for the GSX! There is no way in hell I would pay $17,000 for a 6 year old car regardless if it is a Type R or not. Personally, I think the Type R's are way to hyped up. I mean buying a Celica GTS for $21,000 brand new and supposedly being ripped off at that price is one thing but buying a 6 year old Type R for $17,000 is called being ass raped. Whoever this is trying to sell this Type R for this price is an idiot. However, I am sure there is some dumb ass kid with rich parents out there somewhere that will buy it. Besides the KBB value for that car in mint condition with every available option retails for $11,900 max value in my area. That is a far stretch from $17,000. Trade in value is aroun $9K and private party value is a little over $10K

[pepsiman]

according to my friends.. ITR's owner works for mugen and its very clean inside n out

GSX is not very common here in FL and i might have to go up north to get a clean low mile GSX.

If i buy ITR i won't have any money to play w/ it but if i get the GSX.. I'll prolly have around 5k-6k to play w/.

crankwalk is a major problem w/ 2gs and white ITR w/ jdm front is more likely to get stolen so..

[DopeCelicaGT]

Once again a 6 year old ITR, no matter what condition it is in, is worth $17,000!

[pepsiman]

damn i miss my celica :(

[DopeCelicaGT]

Originally posted by pepsiman
damn i miss my celica :(

Why?

[Zensoku]

I'd get the integra, unless you plan to put 10k in the GSX.

[DopeCelicaGT]

If I was going to pay near $17K for an ITR, which I would be an absolute fool to do, I think I would consider other options. For example, you can get a used 350Z nicely loaded for like $20,000 in my area. I would much rather have a newer 350Z than an older ITR, especially if I am goingto spend about the same amout of $$$$$! You alos have to take into consideration how much an ITR will cost to insure, considering it is one of the most stolen cars in the U.S.!

Justin

[Gas-n-Grease]

ITR... but try to bump down the price. What color is it anyway? I'd go for Championship White :) Although, you can get a 350z for just a little more, the ITR is better tuned for track use, and i just love the sound of its B18C5 engine. TYPE R! TYPE R!
Yep, thieves do love stealing those integra... dont know about the insurance though, but it makes sense that it's high up there. The B18C5 is a "race engine".

[pepsiman]

type-r's insurance is cheaper than my gt-s.. wierd.. GSR is more expensive -_-; and i know 3 people who got their Rs stolen here

gas-n-grease: its championship white w/ jdm hid front and some mugen parts.

[Gas-n-Grease]

Originally posted by pepsiman
gas-n-grease: its championship white w/ jdm hid front and some mugen parts.
:jerkoff: Not a HUGE Honda fan (like to talk smack on certain models) but a JDM front conversion and championship white... sweeeeeet. GSXs are cool and all, but you'll have waaay more fun with the ITR. I hope the owner didnt race out the engine, that'd suck.

[Chiznarles]

sounds pretty darn overpriced

[Crizzz]

i'd personally go for the ITR...

[bluedevil02]

i'd go ITR all the way bro, can't go wrong with an acura, good luck!

:thumbup:

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

Originally posted by DopeCelicaGT
If I was going to pay near $17K for an ITR, which I would be an absolute fool to do, I think I would consider other options. For example, you can get a used 350Z nicely loaded for like $20,000 in my area. I would much rather have a newer 350Z than an older ITR, especially if I am goingto spend about the same amout of $$$$$! You alos have to take into consideration how much an ITR will cost to insure, considering it is one of the most stolen cars in the U.S.!

Justin


An ITR is not one of the most stolen cars in the US. They dont even make 5000 a yr.:rolleyes:

[The Game]

ITR cuz I like N/A cars!

[DopeCelicaGT]

Originally posted by NoRulzAt140 Mph
An ITR is not one of the most stolen cars in the US. They dont even make 5000 a yr.:rolleyes:

First off, your statement should say, "they didn't even make 5000 a year," considering the ITR is no more.

Ok let me rephrase that my quote then, it is one of the most stolen cars in the U.S. and it is the most stolen cars in my area. You can go and check the local police listings for my area if you want. All I know is you have to watch an ITR like a hawk where I live because everybody in Every damn ricers dream is to have a Type R motor in their Civic, CRX, or maybe a Frankenstein, etc. et c. etc. and they are willing to pay top dollar for it. As soon as everyone knows you have an ITR there will someone out there that will want to steal it from you. Trust me I know someon that runs a chopshop and I also know 6 people in my part of Birmingham that all had ITR's and they were all stolen within 6 months from their date of purchase. You do the math. The ITR may not be the most stolen car in the U.S. but it is one that is stolen quite frequently and what that means to the individual seeking car insurance is higher premium rates.

You can get this ITR is you want to man but I think you would be an idiot to pay $17,000 for a 6 year old car, regardless of whether it is a Type R or not. As I stated above the highest value I could get if, retail wise, even for a car dealer was $11,900 and honestly that is a little too much as well. Besides Hondas are way overrated IMO. I know a lot of people with them who all love them dearly but they aren't really anything to go home and brag about, maybe one heavily modified but stock they aren't all that impressive IMO.

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

Originally posted by DopeCelicaGT
First off, your statement should say, "they didn't even make 5000 a year," considering the ITR is no more.

Ok let me rephrase that my quote then, it is one of the most stolen cars in the U.S. and it is the most stolen cars in my area. You can go and check the local police listings for my area if you want. All I know is you have to watch an ITR like a hawk where I live because everybody in Every damn ricers dream is to have a Type R motor in their Civic, CRX, or maybe a Frankenstein, etc. et c. etc. and they are willing to pay top dollar for it. As soon as everyone knows you have an ITR there will someone out there that will want to steal it from you. Trust me I know someon that runs a chopshop and I also know 6 people in my part of Birmingham that all had ITR's and they were all stolen within 6 months from their date of purchase. You do the math. The ITR may not be the most stolen car in the U.S. but it is one that is stolen quite frequently and what that means to the individual seeking car insurance is higher premium rates.

You can get this ITR is you want to man but I think you would be an idiot to pay $17,000 for a 6 year old car, regardless of whether it is a Type R or not. As I stated above the highest value I could get if, retail wise, even for a car dealer was $11,900 and honestly that is a little too much as well. Besides Hondas are way overrated IMO. I know a lot of people with them who all love them dearly but they aren't really anything to go home and brag about, maybe one heavily modified but stock they aren't all that impressive IMO.

an ITR is what EVERY FWD N/A4BANGER aims to be like.

No car in its class outhandles it. No car in its class is faster. iT HAS A STOCK lsd. The car is ALOT to brag about.

If 17k is too much for a 98 ITR, then 25k is too much for a 95 TT Supra.

Cars that are rare and of the ITR's caliber raise value. 01 ITR's sell for more than they did when new in some places.

They made about 1500 in 97,98 and 01.

Originally posted by DopeCelicaGT

Ok let me rephrase that my quote then, it is one of the most stolen cars in the U.S. and it is the most stolen cars in my area.

It can never statistically be NEAR the most stolen car. When say a camry sells 1,000,000 cars a year and a there are less than 10,000 ITR's in the road. Period.

[AM03GT]

won't be the "most stoeln car" by numbers...

but i guarantee it may be the most stolen car on the premise of time for example, from the time you start parking it in a certain area to when it gets jacked or targeted for it...

don't even talk ITR, even GSR's get stolen all the time just for parts... happened to a few friends of mine, one right in front of his house (got it on tape and the police did nothing)... car was found a week later in a shopping market plaza nearby stripped down to the chassis...

its a sad reality that the ITR is huge bait for theives... the parts on the car are just too rare and high in demand...

[DopeCelicaGT]

Originally posted by NoRulzAt140 Mph
an ITR is what EVERY FWD N/A4BANGER aims to be like.

No car in its class outhandles it. No car in its class is faster. iT HAS A STOCK lsd. The car is ALOT to brag about.

If 17k is too much for a 98 ITR, then 25k is too much for a 95 TT Supra.

Cars that are rare and of the ITR's caliber raise value. 01 ITR's sell for more than they did when new in some places.

They made about 1500 in 97,98 and 01.



It can never statistically be NEAR the most stolen car. When say a camry sells 1,000,000 cars a year and a there are less than 10,000 ITR's in the road. Period.

Maybe I should say it is the most coveted car of its kind and therefore the car that is in the highest demand in the chopshop world. How is that.

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

Originally posted by DopeCelicaGT
Maybe I should say it is the most coveted car of its kind and therefore the car that is in the highest demand in the chopshop world. How is that.

That I would agree with 100 %.

[Kuz]

Originally posted by NoRulzAt140 Mph

If 17k is too much for a 98 ITR, then 25k is too much for a 95 TT Supra.
and

are you kidding? seriously, this is starting to piss me off... in NO WAY does the itr compare to a mkiv supra... not at all... rwd twin turbo super car compared to a fwd import with nice handling.... no comparison what so ever... the demand for a supra is outrageous and the supply goes down every year with wrecked supras that will not be given a second chance (most likely due to the 16 yr old rich boys whos parents buy the car for them) which explains the value, but anyway... modification to hp is outrageous... turbo itr's can't even keep up with bpu mods on the supra... handling? big deal... sure its fun but id rather own a sick fast rwd that captures eyes of EVERYONE walking down the street, whether domestic or import lover, with a sweet sound of blow-off over a fwd vtec anyday... whoever says different is a fool... and whoever would choose a itr over a supra is a fool...


back to the question at hand, i would definitely bargain HARD with the itr seller, but if he doesnt budge, i would definitely go with the gsx... put the other 5-6k into the car and it will definitely be a street beast...

[DopeCelicaGT]

Originally posted by Kuz
are you kidding? seriously, this is starting to piss me off... in NO WAY does the itr compare to a mkiv supra... not at all... rwd twin turbo super car compared to a fwd import with nice handling.... no comparison what so ever... the demand for a supra is outrageous and the supply goes down every year with wrecked supras that will not be given a second chance (most likely due to the 16 yr old rich boys whos parents buy the car for them) which explains the value, but anyway... modification to hp is outrageous... turbo itr's can't even keep up with bpu mods on the supra... handling? big deal... sure its fun but id rather own a sick fast rwd that captures eyes of EVERYONE walking down the street, whether domestic or import lover, with a sweet sound of blow-off over a fwd vtec anyday... whoever says different is a fool... and whoever would choose a itr over a supra is a fool...


back to the question at hand, i would definitely bargain HARD with the itr seller, but if he doesnt budge, i would definitely go with the gsx... put the other 5-6k into the car and it will definitely be a street beast...

I agree 100% with everything said above. I also still stand by my point that whoever pays $17,000 for a 98 ITR is a fool as well. I would buy it if the seller would budge on his price by about $4500 or more but otherwise I would leave it be. The ITR is fun but its not that fun. Besides I would rather have a RWD any day of the week over a FWD but that's just me. However, you are obviously only considering FWD here. I guess if you are into track use and overall fun then get the ITR once he drops the price. It is a nicer car in general compared to the GSX. However, if you want to be fast in a straight line and save a ****load of $$$$$ then get the GSX.

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

Originally posted by Kuz
are you kidding? seriously, this is starting to piss me off... in NO WAY does the itr compare to a mkiv supra... not at all... rwd twin turbo super car compared to a fwd import with nice handling.... no comparison what so ever... the demand for a supra is outrageous and the supply goes down every year with wrecked supras that will not be given a second chance (most likely due to the 16 yr old rich boys whos parents buy the car for them) which explains the value, but anyway... modification to hp is outrageous... turbo itr's can't even keep up with bpu mods on the supra... handling? big deal... sure its fun but id rather own a sick fast rwd that captures eyes of EVERYONE walking down the street, whether domestic or import lover, with a sweet sound of blow-off over a fwd vtec anyday... whoever says different is a fool... and whoever would choose a itr over a supra is a fool...


back to the question at hand, i would definitely bargain HARD with the itr seller, but if he doesnt budge, i would definitely go with the gsx... put the other 5-6k into the car and it will definitely be a street beast...

I didnt compare the two. I was making a point of a rare car holding value because it is sought out.

[larryd]

You guys give the ITR no respect. I won't get into it but the price isnt that bad for the ITR. If it was a stock 98 ITR it would probably be selling for around 15k but the JDM front end alone is over 2k.

[DopeCelicaGT]

Originally posted by larryd
You guys give the ITR no respect. I won't get into it but the price isnt that bad for the ITR. If it was a stock 98 ITR it would probably be selling for around 15k but the JDM front end alone is over 2k.

Well damn I must have missed the fact that i had a JDM front end conversion on it. Damn I got to quit speed reading over crap. I am sorry about that. I guess it might be worth near that price but in all honesty I would not pay any more than $15,000 for it despite the conversion. Everybody knows that when you sell a car you will never get what you have in it back out of it when it is sold. Just because he has a JDM front end on it doesn't mean he should expect to get his $2000 investment back with the sale of the car. It doesn't work that way. I would say that considering the mods he has on the car it is worth $2000 more than list value for itand that is roughly $12-$13,000 so with another $1000 tacked on that we are at $13-$14,000, $15,000 max. However, I still do not see it being worth $17,000! The same car located somwhere else might sale for a much lower price than the same car would sale for in my hometown.

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

Originally posted by DopeCelicaGT
Well damn I must have missed the fact that i had a JDM front end conversion on it. Damn I got to quit speed reading over crap. I am sorry about that. I guess it might be worth near that price but in all honesty I would not pay any more than $15,000 for it despite the conversion. Everybody knows that when you sell a car you will never get what you have in it back out of it when it is sold. Just because he has a JDM front end on it doesn't mean he should expect to get his $2000 investment back with the sale of the car. It doesn't work that way. I would say that considering the mods he has on the car it is worth $2000 more than list value for itand that is roughly $12-$13,000 so with another $1000 tacked on that we are at $13-$14,000, $15,000 max. However, I still do not see it being worth $17,000! The same car located somwhere else might sale for a much lower price than the same car would sale for in my hometown.

But the car IS "worth" the 17k if you want it. You cant just say, Ill go elsewhere, because there is a damn good chance you will never see another one for sale.

I see your point, but the price is "justifable" but by no means an end, just a means.

[CeliCar]

Limited availability and thoughts like "you will never see another one for sale" can make you act before your wallet catches up to your brain.

I don't think anyone is discounting that the ITR is a nice car or that it would be worth it to someone for that much. Rarity is not a good reason to buy a car for alot more money though unless it is going to appreciate in value. Paying more should be related to how much better it is than car [X] and some people just don't think it is so superior as to be worth it.

[JohnnyWash1]

Originally posted by Kuz
are you kidding? seriously, this is starting to piss me off... in NO WAY does the itr compare to a mkiv supra... ... no comparison what so ever... ... modification to hp is outrageous... turbo itr's can't even keep up with bpu mods on the supra... handling? big deal... sure its fun but id rather own a sick fast rwd that captures eyes of EVERYONE walking down the street, whether domestic or import lover, with a sweet sound of blow-off over a fwd vtec anyday... whoever says different is a fool... and whoever would choose a itr over a supra is a fool...


I guess we know where you stand. Sounds pretty fast and furious to me. :lame: Just in case you couldn't detect a tone, I'm the fool that would pick the ITR over a Supra everyday. The Supra is simply a Japanese Mustang, no more no less, which is cool--but hardly compares to a factory race car.

Originally posted by larryd
You guys give the ITR no respect. I won't get into it but the price isnt that bad for the ITR. If it was a stock 98 ITR it would probably be selling for around 15k but the JDM front end alone is over 2k.

:werd:

[larryd]

The problem you have here is you are looking at the KBB value of the ITR and saying its not worth 17k. You can't even bother with KBB or NADA values on limited edition cars and Supras. The numbers just arent relative. Its a matter of finding another that cost less and it doesnt happen.

[petsnowman]

Just buy a new srt4 like me and run 13.4's with $3 worth of stuff. :)

[DopeCelicaGT]

Originally posted by larryd
The problem you have here is you are looking at the KBB value of the ITR and saying its not worth 17k. You can't even bother with KBB or NADA values on limited edition cars and Supras. The numbers just arent relative. Its a matter of finding another that cost less and it doesnt happen.

This is 100% true! I see what all of you are saying and I understand your points. In the end it will be this guy, whoever it is, who has to make the final decision as to whether or not the ITR is worth it to him. IMO its not worth it or even close to it but that is just me. He may like it so much that he has to have it. I have bought cars that way in the past and learned my lesson that is all I am saying. However, if he wants it that bad and will love it from now onw then I say he should go for it but before he gets ripped he needs to make damn sure that is 100% what he wants. I know there is no way in hell I would ever pay that much for an ITR but hey its his money.

As far as the ITR being a factory race car that is a pretty funny remark. While they and most of you may consider that a race car from the factory it is hardly what I call a race car. But my idea of a actual race car is far different than most people's I am sure. The ITR is a good car, it is of very nice quality, and it has a nice platform to begin with, I will not lie. However, it is just not what I consider a car that should be worth $17,000 after 6 years of age. There are a lot of comparable cars out there that are much cheaper and can perform just as well if not better. By the way I worked at a Acura dealership with some friends for quite some time in the service department, so I have seen my share of these things and despite what you guys may think the B series motors are not as bulletproof as everyone makes them out to be. Don't get me wrong they are strong motors but they are also hyped up a lot as well. Later.

[FriedRice]

Originally posted by JohnnyWash1
I guess we know where you stand. Sounds pretty fast and furious to me. :lame: Just in case you couldn't detect a tone, I'm the fool that would pick the ITR over a Supra everyday. The Supra is simply a Japanese Mustang, no more no less, which is cool--but hardly compares to a factory race car.



:werd:

i thought u had a mustang.

i think its more like a viper to me. ask bobbeh. the supra turns well. i wouldnt even put it in the same sentence with mustang. the celica was the japanese mustang. toyota obviously had bigger plans for the supra.

fast and furious or not, the supra is a very nice car. its different if they touted a geo metro as the super car in the movie, its not like they have zero credibility,

they just have very little :)


and get RWD for a track car. i'll tell u what its like in 13 days :)

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

Originally posted by larryd
The problem you have here is you are looking at the KBB value of the ITR and saying its not worth 17k. You can't even bother with KBB or NADA values on limited edition cars and Supras. The numbers just arent relative. Its a matter of finding another that cost less and it doesnt happen.
:werd:
Originally posted by JohnnyWash1
I guess we know where you stand. Sounds pretty fast and furious to me. :lame: Just in case you couldn't detect a tone, I'm the fool that would pick the ITR over a Supra everyday. The Supra is simply a Japanese Mustang, no more no less, which is cool--but hardly compares to a factory race car.



:werd:

The supra is not even in the same league as a mustang.

[JohnnyWash1]

Originally posted by FriedRice
i thought u had a mustang.

i think its more like a viper to me. ask bobbeh. the supra turns well. i wouldnt even put it in the same sentence with mustang. the celica was the japanese mustang. toyota obviously had bigger plans for the supra.

fast and furious or not, the supra is a very nice car. its different if they touted a geo metro as the super car in the movie, its not like they have zero credibility,

they just have very little :)


and get RWD for a track car. i'll tell u what its like in 13 days :)


Excellent memory! I did have a Mustang...wait, I had 3. My remark was probably a bit off in accuracy, but my main point was they share the same ideology--if executed in different ways. My main point was high-power RWD is way fun, but not the end-all-be-all of racing (even though I prefer RWD).


Originally posted by NoRulzAt140 Mph
:werd:


The supra is not even in the same league as a mustang.


See above.

[DopeCelicaGT]

YES RWD = major fun and control!

[Kuz]

Originally posted by JohnnyWash1
I guess we know where you stand. Sounds pretty fast and furious to me. :lame: Just in case you couldn't detect a tone, I'm the fool that would pick the ITR over a Supra everyday. The Supra is simply a Japanese Mustang, no more no less, which is cool--but hardly compares to a factory race car.

fool... fast and furious of me? ive wanted a supra since i was 15 (22 now), i bet you didnt even know what one was at the time... don't ever pull out the f&f card out on me again, one of the worst insults possible and aside from that that movie made the value even higher and made the car less attainable, *******s! ... the point i was trying to makes is that it is a car respected by multiple worlds ie domestics imports exotics etc which is another reason to be proud to own one...
Originally posted by FriedRice

i think its more like a viper to me. ask bobbeh. the supra turns well. i wouldnt even put it in the same sentence with mustang. the celica was the japanese mustang. toyota obviously had bigger plans for the supra.


they just have very little :)


and get RWD for a track car. i'll tell u what its like in 13 days :)

Originally posted by NoRulzAt140 Mph
:werd:


The supra is not even in the same league as a mustang.
:) thanks bud

[JohnnyWash1]

Originally posted by Kuz
fool... fast and furious of me? ive wanted a supra since i was 15 (22 now), i bet you didnt even know what one was at the time... don't ever pull out the f&f card out on me again, one of the worst insults possible and aside from that that movie made the value even higher and made the car less attainable, *******s! ... the point i was trying to makes is that it is a car respected by multiple worlds ie domestics imports exotics etc which is another reason to be proud to own one...



:) thanks bud


I never disagreed with your choice, I only disagreed with your reasoning. You picked sound and looks as your reasoning. That's fast and furious. As for the fool--that was your insult, not mine.

EDIT--not that it matters, but I'm actually older than you. So yes, I did know what a supra was when you were 15 because I was tooling around in a Corvette and 300ZX.

[Kuz]

Originally posted by JohnnyWash1
I never disagreed with your choice, I only disagreed with your reasoning. You picked sound and looks as your reasoning. That's fast and furious. As for the fool--that was your insult, not mine.

EDIT--not that it matters, but I'm actually older than you. So yes, I did know what a supra was when you were 15 because I was tooling around in a Corvette and 300ZX.

Originally posted by Kuz
rwd twin turbo super car compared to a fwd import with nice handling.... no comparison what so ever... modification to hp is outrageous... turbo itr's can't even keep up with bpu mods on the supra...


i was saying that it has the whole package... PERFORMANCE looks and sound....

my bad on assuming your age... just trying to prove a point that im not a f&f wannabe by only wanting the car because of seeing it on the big screen... if i could go back in time id shoot the writer of that movie in the face... i wanted the car before mostly anyone (my age) knew what it was...

[JohnnyWash1]

It's all good. I now know that it is your favorite car, so it explains your choice. They are nice cars, and there is one black one around here that just sounds beautiful. It's not even turbo--just the exhaust and engine sounds are better than I expected.


Jon

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

There is no doubt, upon having the oppurtunity and being ABLE, i would get the Supra. But that doesnt make the ITR any less of a car.

[pepsiman]

hows black 95 tt 6spd 88k miles for 25k sound?
i been looking at alot of cars since i got a check from my insurance company and now i lost interest on the itr and gsx cuz of reliablity issues and high theft rate..
im gonna go see that supra next week and if thats not the right one for me than.. G35c!

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

25 isnt bad for a 95 if its in good condition.

[Vant]

ITRs are overrated...

190hp
And upgraded suspension...
And the ever popular Type R sticker...

17k? LOL

If you want something fast... Go get an SRT-4... Definitely you can find one for 17k and it will blow by the ITR like nothing...
If you want something that can handle... Get a Celica or a Mini...
If you want both... Get an s2000... You can find them for under 19k nowadays ;p

I think it's sad people still find the ITR respectable... It doesn't even look that hot ;p

[Kuz]

Originally posted by Vant
ITRs are overrated...

190hp
And upgraded suspension...
And the ever popular Type R sticker...

17k? LOL

If you want something fast... Go get an SRT-4... Definitely you can find one for 17k and it will blow by the ITR like nothing...
If you want something that can handle... Get a Celica or a Mini...
If you want both... Get an s2000... You can find them for under 19k nowadays ;p

I think it's sad people still find the ITR respectable... It doesn't even look that hot ;p

uhhh oooooooooh

[Kuz]

Originally posted by pepsiman
hows black 95 tt 6spd 88k miles for 25k sound?
i been looking at alot of cars since i got a check from my insurance company and now i lost interest on the itr and gsx cuz of reliablity issues and high theft rate..
im gonna go see that supra next week and if thats not the right one for me than.. G35c!

very decent price, and don't let the miles get you down, the car is bullet proof...

Originally posted by NoRulzAt140 Mph
There is no doubt, upon having the oppurtunity and being ABLE, i would get the Supra. But that doesnt make the ITR any less of a car.
I'm with you on that one...

[Gas-n-Grease]

Originally posted by Vant
ITRs are overrated...

190hp
And upgraded suspension...
And the ever popular Type R sticker...

17k? LOL

If you want something fast... Go get an SRT-4... Definitely you can find one for 17k and it will blow by the ITR like nothing...
If you want something that can handle... Get a Celica or a Mini...
If you want both... Get an s2000... You can find them for under 19k nowadays ;p

I think it's sad people still find the ITR respectable... It doesn't even look that hot ;p
The ITR will do circles around the SRT-4 on a track and a hell lot funner to drive. But i do have to agree with you that they are overrated... however it is the "best" FF ever built. A Mini doesnt handle as well as an ITR (but possible with a Stage 2 kit tho) nor a Celica GTS. S2000 would be a good buy though. If you can find an S2000 for about the same price as an ITR, dump the ITR idea and get the S2000... hardtop!

[Kuz]

Originally posted by Gas-n-Grease
The ITR will do circles around the SRT-4 on a track and a hell lot funner to drive. But i do have to agree with you that they are overrated... however it is the "best" FF ever built. A Mini doesnt handle as well as an ITR (but possible with a Stage 2 kit tho) nor a Celica GTS. S2000 would be a good buy though. If you can find an S2000 for about the same price as an ITR, dump the ITR idea and get the S2000... hardtop!

funner = more fun :gap:

[JohnnyWash1]

Originally posted by Vant

If you want something fast... Go get an SRT-4... Definitely you can find one for 17k and it will blow by the ITR like nothing...



I stopped listening here. I take back my F&F comment about Kuz and place it firmly on you.

[Kuz]

Originally posted by JohnnyWash1
I stopped listening here. I take back my F&F comment about Kuz and place it firmly on you.
haha!! thanks brotha...

[Gas-n-Grease]

Originally posted by Kuz
funner = more fun :gap:
You know i had a weird feeling i should of corrected that

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

Originally posted by Vant
ITRs are overrated...

190hp
And upgraded suspension...
And the ever popular Type R sticker...

17k? LOL

If you want something fast... Go get an SRT-4... Definitely you can find one for 17k and it will blow by the ITR like nothing...
If you want something that can handle... Get a Celica or a Mini...
If you want both... Get an s2000... You can find them for under 19k nowadays ;p

I think it's sad people still find the ITR respectable... It doesn't even look that hot ;p

Upgraded version? Maybe. Over rated? No.

When new, for a bit more than a GSR, you get;

195 HP > 175

LSD > OPEN DIFF

Sways, Struts bars, etc > No

14.5's > low 15's

And im sure a few other things I dont know.

You are missing the point.

[JohnnyWash1]

Originally posted by NoRulzAt140 Mph
You are missing the point.

As so many do.

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

Originally posted by JohnnyWash1
As so many do.

Im sure.

[Vant]

Sorry I never compared it with the GSR... Mainly because I don't like either cars ;p

What I'm trying to say is that there are much better things available...


The ITR will do circles around the SRT-4 on a track and a hell lot funner to drive. But i do have to agree with you that they are overrated... however it is the "best" FF ever built. A Mini doesnt handle as well as an ITR (but possible with a Stage 2 kit tho) nor a Celica GTS. S2000 would be a good buy though. If you can find an S2000 for about the same price as an ITR, dump the ITR idea and get the S2000... hardtop!

Hence I said SRT-4 for speed... I never mentioned it could handle well ;p Those things are really fast... And the Nismo turbo stage kits that are easily available and easy to install don't help with the ITR beating it speedwise at all...

I honestly don't see the point in having an FWD car... When you can have a better RWD car like the s2k at pretty much the same price...


I stopped listening here. I take back my F&F comment about Kuz and place it firmly on you.
lol... I'm not the one with the intention of racing a civic on the track ;p

[JohnnyWash1]

Originally posted by Vant

lol... I'm not the one with the intention of racing a civic on the track ;p


Yeah, you're right. I should bag the idea and just put a loud muffler and body kit on. That would be much more respectable. :rolleyes:

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

Originally posted by Vant
And the Nismo turbo stage kits that are easily available and easy to install don't help with the ITR beating it speedwise at all...

What does Nismo have to do with Acura or Dodge?

[Kuz]

this thread go sooooo blown out of proportion...

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

Originally posted by Kuz
this thread go sooooo blown out of proportion...

Dont they all.

[JohnnyWash1]

Originally posted by NoRulzAt140 Mph
What does Nismo have to do with Acura or Dodge?


Yeah, I didn't see that. Yet another reason this guy is an :idiot:

[Vant]

Whoops! LOL I can't believe I said that... I meant Mopar ;p