who will win a gt or a gts

[wu2001ok]

Who will win if the Gt auto and a 5 speed has a injen cai, hot shot header, and exhast. And the Gts 6 speed is stock or have a cai.

[Bling]

What you say?

[coOOlcelica]

huh.........???

are u out of your mind

[2002GT_Celica]

Well, if a GT was modded with some basic boltons, it could hang with the GT-S. Like for example, look at Maelfyn's GT which is running better quarter mile times than stock GT-S's.

[Vroom_Vroom]

what you say!?

[GReddy Celica]

gts, although a good gt driver might be able to hang back

[ObseneLogic]

My gts has smoked plenty of moded Gt's...(including header, wide pipe, and exhaust..) it takes more than just parts...its the driver to...but if the driver is good there is a chance the gt could win.

[wu2001ok]

how bout if I put a torque contventer on the gt

[X-EVIL-X]

Maelfyn's car is not normal
a regular gt couldn't keep up with a gts with equal drivers

[celica70]

why is Maelfyn's GT so quick? what does he have done? thanks.

[X-EVIL-X]

intake, exhaust, header, 15's, and fully spriped interior

[gsport]

i asked a similar question on someones car?

[Redline]

Originally posted by 2002GT_Celica
Well, if a GT was modded with some basic boltons, it could hang with the GT-S. Like for example, look at Maelfyn's GT which is running better quarter mile times than stock GT-S's.


I bet you a stock gt-s stripped will run mid 14's. modded and stripped gt-s will run high 13's maybe and definitely low 14's. I think the gt-s is about a full second faster than the gt give or take a few with equal mods(which includes weight reduction).

[Tony01Gts]

Does weight reduction really make that much of a difference? I've heard from a lot of people that its BS... that for several hundred pounds you'll get the tiniest bit of improvement

[kaioshin]

Maybe in the 1/4 mile, but on the highway a modded GT still can't keep up with a GT-S. I hang with Maelfyn all the time. I can still wup him down on the highway though and the only power mod I have is an Injen CAI, full interior and carrying more sh!t than I should.

It's all about the top end. :)

[Jesse IL]

Guys, also keep in mind that all drag strips are not created equal. At the same track where Maelfyn ran those times, Icyjaws has run a 100mph trap speed in a GT-S, without NOS. I think most cars could run better times on the street, and the track they use has exceptionally good conditions (like being right at sea level for one). I know for a fact that a GT-S 6-speed that I ran a 15.0 in with only a CAI could have run a better time on a better track.

[BoyRacer]

i cant belive none of the good GT drivers have seen this yet...

[z6joker9]

The GTS should win, no problem. Freak GT's might hang with a GT-S in the 1/4 but 99% of the time the GT- S will smoke a GT, that's what they pay the extra $3k for...

[wu2001ok]

Will the gt win if it have a torque contventer.

[BlackGTS2002]

Well if the GT had a torque converter, it would be a good thing. If it didnt, it wouldnt move! best description i can give you is this...a torque converter is like the clutch in an auto. GTS will still beat a GT, unless the driver is horrible.

[Pure Racer]

5spd GT's can't get torque convertors...

[oo_snoopy]

It's all about the top end.


thats an AUTO GTS reason

[larryd]

Originally posted by Jesse IL
Guys, also keep in mind that all drag strips are not created equal. At the same track where Maelfyn ran those times, Icyjaws has run a 100mph trap speed in a GT-S, without NOS. I think most cars could run better times on the street, and the track they use has exceptionally good conditions (like being right at sea level for one). I know for a fact that a GT-S 6-speed that I ran a 15.0 in with only a CAI could have run a better time on a better track.

the only people that bitch about this is people who cant drive or live at 5000 ft above sea level.. Cecil is a good track.. its barely above sea level.. and FYI.. maeflyn ran faster at Capital then he did at Cecil..

[jotan82]

:cool:

[wu2001ok]

I meant a level ten torque contventer on the gt

[larryd]

if the GT has a torque converter that means its auto and has no chance

[Maelfyn]

Um yeah I ran that time at Capitol, which is a slow track. And Kaioshin is right. He walks me pretty bad in 3rd and 4th. If the GT-S guy has any clue he will win. In fact I wish he'd hurry up and mod his car a bit more. I think we can get that car running low 14s easily.

[PinnacleCelica]

I believe the question referred to a GT-S Sportshift and an auto GT-S 5 speed...

Most people seem to be answering in reference to a GT-S 6-speed.

I have a gt-s sportshift (stupid decision), with injen cai, kinda curious how i'd fare against a GT with some mods?

[PinnacleCelica]

Hmm maybe it was a 6-speed gt-s but im still curious how the GT-S sportshift will hold up against a stock GT and a modified GT 5-speed.

[kkrkeith7]

weight reduction does make a difference. 30 or 40 pounds is not signifigant, but how fast a car is depends on it's power to rate ratio and other things like traction, powerband, suspension, drivetrain. here's a site with some power to weight ratios. the 1/4 mile for these cars is pretty much in the order there are in for the power to weight ratios, makes sense. i think the gt-s' is 2500/180 stock so 13.89 pounds per one horsepower. since our car is fairly light it does not take much horsepower to make a difference or much weight reduction. if you could make a gt-s weight 2000 pounds stock it would be right there with an NSX at 11.1.
http://www.lingenfelter.com/main/HPtoWeight.htm

[larryd]

5spd GT will beat a Sport Shift Auto GTS..

[SlasherX]

GT will whup a GT-S hands down...

oh wait..CELICA GT....oh..nm..GT-S all the way..

lol ;)

[PinnacleCelica]

Seriously, so a 5-speed GT will kick a sport shift GT-S both stock?

[larryd]

it should.. a 5spd GT can run high 15s stock.. the sport shift GTS is runnning high 16s..

[PinnacleCelica]

Sniff sniff.. my poor gt-s :(

[larryd]

auto GTS is more for show then go..its that simple.. it takes serious work to get the car into the 14s..

[MarkyMark]

heh.....it takes serious work to get that car into the 16s

[Jesse IL]

I wasn't trying to take away from anyone's acclomplishments. This is just like people trying to compare dyno numbers from different cars on different dynos. A GT-S 6-speed should under no circumstances lose to a GT 5-speed with the same driver on the same road/track. When I ran Static's car to a 15.0@93.5 (AEM CAI), I was spinning the tires and wheel hopping like crazy through first gear. I think my 60 foot time was only like 2.4 sec. I know that on the street, I can launch and just get a tiny bit of wheel spin and the car takes off. I'm looking for a better track in my area to get a better representation of what my car can do.

[Pure Racer]

uhm, I lost to a 5spd GT by only half a car length.. I don't consider that being whooped and also I started to pull on him in 2nd gear VVTL-i but we shut off around 75mph...

[DaksGT]

Originally posted by Pure Racer
uhm, I lost to a 5spd GT by only half a car length.. I don't consider that being whooped and also I started to pull on him in 2nd gear VVTL-i but we shut off around 75mph...
How was the guy driving man?

I totally raped a gt-s auto a week ago I mean a good 3-4 cars on him by the ending of third.

[jotan82]

Originally posted by Pure Racer
uhm, I lost to a 5spd GT by only half a car length.. I don't consider that being whooped and also I started to pull on him in 2nd gear VVTL-i but we shut off around 75mph...

you had a bad launch....

GT-S 6-speed will be a gt
GT-S SS will not

which comes to the conclusion...

if you got a GT-S SS, don't race... it's a show car, you got the automatic transmission for your convenience, so sit back and enjoy