View Full Version : This would reduce your chances of misshifting by 99.99%!
The Wok
03-30-2002, 07:27 AM
http://sportcompactcarweb.com/images/0502/tokyo_06.jpg
The Ikeya semi-sequential shifter was shown at the Tokyo Auto Salon (again, I saw it in SCC :)). I guess it replaces your OEM shifter and even though you still have to use the clutch, shifting is performed in an "up-down" fashion. I wonder how much it costs...arm...or arm and leg :D
nyoneway
03-30-2002, 09:45 AM
Its about 10 grand. It also replaces your tranny I think.
pinoyracer
03-30-2002, 10:35 AM
Isn't the new MR2 have this shifter??? but without the clutch pedal??? I think, this is only good for Auto, don't u think ??? ;) :gap:
Orion Pax
03-30-2002, 11:31 AM
Wonder how much that thing weighs...
oldster
03-30-2002, 11:42 AM
I went to their website, looks like they have the shifter for about $900 US, but don't know what it fits. I'm just guessing on that price since they had 120.000 yen in there for something but couldn't read what it was for. Perhaps one of our Japanese friends could help.
scapamouche
03-30-2002, 01:18 PM
The MR2 has an electronic clutch. It's not an auto but it doesn't need the clutch pedal. the computer engeges and disengeges the clutch for shifts and stops. No torque converter.
Same principle as the Ferrari paddleshifters, but not as advanced or expensive.
yakkosmurf
03-30-2002, 02:22 PM
Why do you think this would reduce misshifting. It seems it would be a lot easier to hit second gear when trying for third...
oldster
03-30-2002, 02:31 PM
If I understand how it works it would be impossible to hit second when going to third as you are going in opposite directions. If your are upshifting for example you are always pressing the shifter forward, downshifting backwards etc., in any event you are always going the same direction to upshift and the opposite to downshift.
larryd
03-30-2002, 04:17 PM
yeah.. i can imagine how easy it would be to miss gears in an up-down fashion
yakkosmurf
03-30-2002, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by oldster
If I understand how it works it would be impossible to hit second when going to third as you are going in opposite directions. If your are upshifting for example you are always pressing the shifter forward, downshifting backwards etc., in any event you are always going the same direction to upshift and the opposite to downshift.
Understood, but what's to keep you from downshifting too far. Many misshifts for the Celica have been people trying to downshift to pass another car or race. They found second instead of fourth. I think it would be just as easy, if not easier, to make the same mistake with a sequential shifter. I have never driven a car that one, so I'll defer to someone who has. It was just a thought of mine.
oldster
03-30-2002, 06:02 PM
Anything is possible. But if you are going from going from 5th to 4th you would have to pull it three separate times to get it into second. Guess you would kind of deserve the over rev if you did that. All of this is predicated on what little I know about sequential shifters and that is:
1-2 pull back
2-3 pull back
3-4 pull back
4-5 pull back
5-6 pull back
6-5 push forward
5-4 push forward
etc.
etc.
etc.
I guess you could think of it as a ratchet always returning to a centered position??
If all it does is move to the gear position in a straight line aka an automatic then please disreagard everything I said and it would be stupid to even buy one.
:eek:
t2000gts
03-30-2002, 06:24 PM
it does move it in a straight line, up and down.
a lotta drag cars have that kind of shifter, but they're usually automatics to begin with.
IMHO, for a manual non-drag car, best 'clutchless' solution is the paddleshifter thing.
i think this thing is a waste of money, i doubt it would help shift times that much at all if you're still working the clutch yourself.
oldster
03-30-2002, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by t2000gts
it does move it in a straight line, up and down.
a lotta drag cars have that kind of shifter, but they're usually automatics to begin with.
IMHO, for a manual non-drag car, best 'clutchless' solution is the paddleshifter thing.
i think this thing is a waste of money, i doubt it would help shift times that much at all if you're still working the clutch yourself.
I had a ratchet auto shifter in my drag car. In ratchet mode it was impossible to shift more than one gear with one motion. If the one discussed works similar to that then it would be amost impossible to misshift.
t2000gts
03-30-2002, 06:34 PM
yeah misshifting would be impossible...so maybe it is worth it for some GT-S or RSX drivers :chuckles:
FX2000GTS
03-30-2002, 06:39 PM
Its the same as shifting in a motocross or road racing motorcycle....you just have to remember the gear you are in.
I love this kind of shifting!!!!(2002 Yamaha 125cc)
FX2000 GTS
(not stock)
jotan82
03-30-2002, 07:15 PM
lol
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