Mobil 1 synthetic is gonna suck now

[Kit99bar]

found at maxima.org

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=107047&highlight=mobil+sued

so it's time to start using amsoil?

[z6joker9]

damnit.. what to do what to do

[loudceli]

Has anyone tried "Royal Purple" oil??????

[MarkyMark]

isnt that the stuff that comes in the purple velvet pouch with the golden rope? Oh wait, that's Royal Crown

I guess I'll switch to quaker state or STP

[grunt]

can oil go bad? if not I'm just gonan go stock up now, buy like 50 boxes of mobile one :D

[ProToolsKid]

Originally posted by loudceli
Has anyone tried "Royal Purple" oil??????

Yeah but I noticed I had to add 1Qt half way between oilchanges coz a lot of it evaporated or something.

[SlasherX]

time for an Amsoil group purchase..

[RotorBalls]

Damn and I just switched:p

[spaldam]

Originally posted by grunt
can oil go bad? if not I'm just gonan go stock up now, buy like 50 boxes of mobile one :D

Actually the switch was made almost a year ago. If it says it's the new Tri-synth formula, then it's the new stuff. They started doing it after lossing a court case with Castrol, were they were sueing Castrol for saying there stuff was fully synthetic even though they were useing a petroleum base stock to make it. The court ruled that it was still synthetic because it went through a process to make it synthetic, so Mobil 1 decided that if they couldn't beat'm they'd join'm. I'm still useing Mobil 1, mostly because there isn't much else that's easily available, and mobil 1 is still much better then regular oil, and in my opinion still better the Castrol (not sure about the others). I thinking that I might just start letting the dealership were I get my oil changed use there own Sythetic Penzoil oil, and just not worry about it so much.

If the car had a turbo on it, I'd worry about it more. I guess I should at leat do some more resurch on what's available.

[gts24]

Shoulda been using Amsoil a long time ago....

Simply the best stuff out there.

[t2000gts]

i'm about to switch to royal purple for this oil change...it's their racing oil which is "fully" synthetic, not a mix like their normal oils...5w30 equivalent (racing 21 i think was the name).

i'll let you know how it runs.

i plan on AMSOIL next oil change. :D

[REdOX]

Originally posted by Kit99bar
found at maxima.org

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=107047&highlight=mobil+sued

so it's time to start using amsoil?

Damn.. the site is busy. What's all the comotion about?

[WillyK]

OK so going from the list on this link, which of the Amsoil oil should I get? There are tons of different ones and I have no clue

http://intershop.amsoil.com/cgi-bin/Amsoil.storefront/3cab12d304381456271bd1f0e3f006a2/Catalog/1108

[CelicaDetective]

It's still synthetic oil in my opinion. Notice the Amsol or whatever guy happens to run the damn website and is selling it. I think it's just some bogus marketing to get you to buy their oil. I would keep using what you are using and don't listen to the hype unless you read about it in popular science or from a reputable MEDIA/NEWS source, NOT an internet message board.

I honestly think the only synthetic oil that could make a difference is REDLINE but you have to be really spending the bucks for it. Otherwise, I don't think that different brands of pure synthetic really don't matter, it's just a preference. If you are professionally racing your car and you want a specific sponsor, then choose your oil that way.

If you use Castrol Syntec, Mobil 1 full synthetic, or Valvoline full synthetic, I honestly don't think you are going to ever tell the difference. As for Synthetic vs. conventional oil, it is supposed to increase the life of your car (synthetic)

Mike

[VZV21]

Mobil 1 Trisynthetic is a cobination of PAO & esters as the base stock.

Mobil Delvac 1 is still PAO stock. Yes, mainly diesel people use it, but it is also SJ rated for gasoline engines.

[diduceme]

I thought valvoline was better than mobil one anyways, they spend more money each year on research at least.

[nxracer]

CelicaDetective is correct Redline does in fact make the best synthetic oil (sorry all you Amsoil salesmen)

WARNING: Never use Redline "Racing" oil in a street car. It is not designed for street use and they mean it

[inflaymes]

I noticed I had lost a lot of oil...when I checked just before doing my oil change.....and I don't think I am burning a lot ...and I don't have a leak....could this be the result of the changed oil????????????????????????

[Kit99bar]

Thank you spaldam

this is exactly what happend

Mobil1's synthetic is not going to be fully synthetic anymore

their synthetic will now start as normal oil, then go through some processes to "make it synthetic".

Originally posted by spaldam


Actually the switch was made almost a year ago. If it says it's the new Tri-synth formula, then it's the new stuff. They started doing it after lossing a court case with Castrol, were they were sueing Castrol for saying there stuff was fully synthetic even though they were useing a petroleum base stock to make it. The court ruled that it was still synthetic because it went through a process to make it synthetic, so Mobil 1 decided that if they couldn't beat'm they'd join'm. I'm still useing Mobil 1, mostly because there isn't much else that's easily available, and mobil 1 is still much better then regular oil, and in my opinion still better the Castrol (not sure about the others). I thinking that I might just start letting the dealership were I get my oil changed use there own Sythetic Penzoil oil, and just not worry about it so much.

If the car had a turbo on it, I'd worry about it more. I guess I should at leat do some more resurch on what's available.

[gts24]

Originally posted by inflaymes
I noticed I had lost a lot of oil...when I checked just before doing my oil change.....and I don't think I am burning a lot ...and I don't have a leak....could this be the result of the changed oil????????????????????????


Some people have noticed that when they rod on the car a lot. Oil gets' "used" somehow. It's not really getting burned I dont' think, but when you are in lift all day every day type thing.. it seems that oil gets used alot more. I check my oil level at least 3 times a week.

[HyperSpaceGT-S]

Maybe before you all began to panic because of what some schmuck that is an Amsoil dealer said, in a maxima forum of all places you should have gone to Mobile 1's site. Do I read the words fully synthetic and chemically derived hydrocarbons. I believe I do.


" What is Mobil 1 and why is it now called Tri-Synthetic?
Mobil 1 is a fully synthetic motor oil for automotive engines. It is made from a mixture of polyalphaolefin (PAO), synthetic ester and an alkylated aromatic fluid. Each of these three base materials enhances Mobil 1's performance and, along with a proprietary additive system, offers the best engine protection possible. Mobil 1 is available in five viscosity grades:

0W-30
0W-40
5W-30
10W-30
15W-50
Mobil 1 exceeds API service ratings SJ/CF. Mobil 1 0W-30, 0W-40, 5W-30 and 10W-30 also meet ILSAC GF-2 requirements. As an SJ/CF rated oil, Mobil 1 can be used wherever an API SH, SG, SF or SE oil is called for in the owner's manual. As a CF rated oil, Mobil 1 can also be used in diesel engines calling for a CD oil.

In addition, later in 2002, Mobil 1 will exceed the newest certification standards being implemented on that date

[gts24]

Like what was said earlier. They can get away with calling it
"fully synthetic" ... doesn't mean it is.

[HyperSpaceGT-S]

Looks like someone didn't take chemistry class.

polyalphaolefin= chemically derived petroleum based fluid with long molecular chains similar to polymers

Synthetic ester= chemically refined petroleum base which is synthetic

alkylated aromatic= another polymer like molecule also petroleum derived

I hate to brake the big news to all of you. ALMOST ALL SYNTHETIC MATERIALS ARE DERIVED FROM PETROLEUM!!!! Polymers, Aramids, etc.. all petroleum based.

Go ahead and spend more money on AMSOIL you deserve it. Think of it as an ignorance tax.

[erok]

So HyperspaceGT-S, is any brand of "synthetic" oil better than another in your opinion? Or are they all the same?

[HyperSpaceGT-S]

AMSOIL and Redline are supposed to be better than main stream brands. Mobil 01 is probably the best main stream brand. The air force uses the same tri synthetic for aircraft use. That's actually how synthetics came into being. Air Force RFP for a high performance long lasting oil for nuclear bombers, air force one, and looking glass planes.

If you can afford it by all means use amsoil. If not Mobil 01 is fantastic. Let me put it this way I went to race where there were some Mobil 1 engineers. I asked them about what they thought of syntec and quaker state and they basically said they were inferior to Mobil 01. I asked them about Amsoil and Redline and they said something to the effect "that's good stuff" and also at a different event I ran into a Redline guy and asked him about Mobil 01 and he pretty much said the same thing and also trashed Syntec and Quaker state.

[REdOX]

Did they give their reasons? Or was it that, "just because" type deal?

[mickey513]

Man, no way you can beat Mobil 1 interms of value and protection. I just picked up a jug of 5qts Mobil 1 for $18.08 at Walmart. A little more then $3.50 a quart. Tell me where in the world are you going to find a leading,........ well "synthetic or not" for less then $4 a qt?

[ProToolsKid]

I found this while shopping around for Redline Oil.

Why Redline Oil is Not So Good (http://www.guarding-our-earth.com/amsoil/printable/red_line.html)

But If you read the URL it's posted by AMSOIL Hummm who do we believe.....

[nyoneway]

That website is actually a site that's advertising for Amsoil. Mobil 1 and Redline is their competitor, of course they say Amsoil is better.