Is Toyota bringing the Supra back?

[GReddy Celica]

I was looking through Toyota Japan website and they have changed some stuff aroun. It's kinda hard for me because I dont know Jap. but I just click on stuff or pictures and hope something cool comes up. Anyway, they have recently put the Supra back in their car lineup section, does this mean Toyota is bringing the Supra back. From looking at the pictures it seems the 2JZ engine now has VVT, twin turbo charged or NA. Anyway chck up on it and see if anyone can decipher what it says, hope this is good news.

http://www.toyota.co.jp/Showroom/All_toyota_lineup/Supra/

[TheX-Man]

wow supra..... damn i want that car. Well I can't decipher it but I know the 2jz had vvt-i in the n/a supra in 98. I think hp jumped a whopping 5hp from 220-225. I'm not sure if the tt had it or not.

[GReddy Celica]

somehow that will be my next car

[atehrani]

I'am awaiting the return of the RX-7 :)

[TheX-Man]

When is the rx-7 suppose to come back? I'm not the biggest fan of the rx-8.

[ZZT 231]

i saw spra with a new body in car and driver
along with celica and a new toyota sports compact car called 4300GT
they are all suppose to be release during 2004 or soemthing

[DrivenFast]

Is there anyone that reads japanese and can translate the site, I want to see where it says they are bring the Supra back here or just Japan?
Even if they do bring the Supra back, they won't bring here probably. (Sorry just a little cynical on my part.)
Part of me says, please please. Oh well. Keeping fingers crossed.

Off note: is this from the Lexus Auto-Shift controls? (http://www.toyota.co.jp/Showroom/All_toyota_lineup/Supra/mechanism/index.html)

[Bobbeh]

The RX-8 is the new RX-7 - right?!

[silverceli2k]

no, the RX-8, is not the new RX-7.

[jotan82]

the next gen supra is a rumor

[GReddy Celica]

that is what I thought too but why would Toyota Japan recently add it to their current car lineup (drop-down menu) along with the celica, mr-s and the soarer (lexus sc430 here) it seems this is their sports car lineup. I'm not sure but I think something's up, WHY??? they havent made a Supra in 4 years or so, and boom all of a sudden it appears in the Toyota Japan website in the current car lineup section...???????

[Blue Bomber]

They've always had the Supra listed on their site. Believe me, I check every few weeks to see if anything decent is coming out. :) They may have stopped importing them here in the late 90's, but that doesn't mean they stopped selling them in Japan.

[WillyK]

Even if they did bring it back over here, how many of us could really afford it? Wasn't it around 40k for the TT? I am sure insurance is pretty high on one as well.

[mwz26]

http://www.njbrigade.com/images/celi/supra.gif

[wu2001ok]

The rx7 is the new rx8.

[baNanA_ryCe]

the new supras are gonna be under lexus, not toyota...they gonna be kick ass expensive!!!

[GReddy Celica]

don't mean to be rude but you got any info to back that up or is that just another rumor...

[TheX-Man]

The rx8 is somewhat a rx7 replacement i guess, but there has been rumors that they will make a 2 seater rx7 not a four seater that the rx8 is. Now if they make a 2 seater I'm sure it'd be a more sporty version.

[ringthree]

Wow, there is SO MUCH RUMOR going on here.

The new supra, 3500gt and celica designs are all rumors. They had a pic of the matrix in that article and they were just guessing and they didn't even know it was a matrix even AFTER Toyota had already announced it. I had heard better reasoned explainations that the "celica" design is actually a new Trueno. We will see, but just remember it's ALL rumor.

RX-8 is not the new RX-7 but that doesn't mean we will see a new RX-7.

Toyota has announced NOTHING about the new supra or GT3500/5000 they dont even know if they are going to be made.

[AkUmA]

Originally posted by GReddy Celica
I was looking through Toyota Japan website and they have changed some stuff aroun. It's kinda hard for me because I dont know Jap. but I just click on stuff or pictures and hope something cool comes up. Anyway, they have recently put the Supra back in their car lineup section, does this mean Toyota is bringing the Supra back. From looking at the pictures it seems the 2JZ engine now has VVT, twin turbo charged or NA. Anyway chck up on it and see if anyone can decipher what it says, hope this is good news.

http://www.toyota.co.jp/Showroom/All_toyota_lineup/Supra/

in japan they didnt stop producing the supra until 99' i believe, but you have to make a special order. same with the 300zx's they stop production of them in 98' in japan. btw my source for that info, was a exchange student from japan, and she was into cars also.:)

[pensfan83]

Originally posted by ringthree
RX-8 is not the new RX-7 but that doesn't mean we will see a new RX-7.

Ditto. There are **cough cough** <i>rumors</i>, however, that the next generation RX-7 is in the works.

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

The RX8 is replacing the RX7. The Supra is still made in Japan.

[atehrani]

The RX-8 is NOT replacing the RX-7. Hence it is named the RX-8. The RX-8 is a sports sedan, not a sports car. Remember the RX-7 is still sold in Japan, however it is nearing its end of life there.

[silver-s]

I personally believe that the RX-8 is the replacement for the RX-7. It's just like the 350z is the replacement for the 300zx. Just my .02 though!

[A i]

The supras over in japan are Twin Turboed and have VVTL-i.

[143hawaii]

anyone who thinks the RX-8 is a replacement either..

1) Doesn't know jack about the lineage of the RX-7

or

2) Isn't a rotorhead and never talked to one

[baNanA_ryCe]

Originally posted by GReddy Celica
don't mean to be rude but you got any info to back that up or is that just another rumor...

umm....i got this from a friend >> she has relatives all over the toyota industry...might be a rumor, but isn't this whole thread one? well anyways..i know for sure its coming back and she's planning on selling her rsx and getting it.....

[pensfan83]

atehrani and 143hawaii are right.

For the last time, the RX-8 <b>is not</b> a replacement for the RX-7, nor is it the next generation RX-7.

[pensfan83]

Found what I was looking for:

"An extract from Dan Mazella's interview with Mark Fields, President of Mazda
Motor Corporation at the Detroit Autoshow, January 10, 2002.

...

What about the RX-7? Will that be based off the RX-8.

The RX-8 is the new platform, not as a replacement for the RX-7, it is a different proposition than the RX-7. We haven't decided yet the fate of the RX-7. We want to execute the RX-8 well, and then we will determine what to do with the RX-7. We'll see if it is competing with the existing RX-7, or it makes a new market, and we'll see if we base the RX-7 off the RX-8."

[F22-Raptor]

I have heard that the new Supra should repeat should be coming here in August. This from a guy we all know and love...DD. There is also supposed to be a 5000gt in the works that would come under Lexus but they are not sure if they are going to market it yet. Incidentally Piping is now done for the Spyder and the turbo and they should be receiving the spyder back this Fri.......... Thanks Dave.

[CelicaDetective]

Jeezus.

The RX-7 is no longer a new car in the USA. Sure you can buy them used.

The RX-8 is a new marketing approach to the RX-7, it's not the RX-7, but it's supposed to be aimed at those who would be buying an RX-7 if they ever planned on making them. I mean ... come on .... 50/50 weight dist., naturally aspirated high performance rotary design, 6 speed, and 2 suicide doors which does not make it a true 4 door.

Mike

[dawgg]

I don't think the 3rd gen rx7 and the rx8 aim at the same market. The rx7 was an all out sports car... and there obviously wasn't much of a market for that at the time. The rx8 is a much more practical car. Mazda may be trying to capture some of the people that woulda bought the rx7 but it's still a different market. The rx8 is more of a sporty sedan with some sports car characteristics. The rx8 doesn't have the same performance that the rx7 had at it's time. Rumor has it that they are developing a turbo version of the Renesis engine to go w/ the new rx7. I think that sounds possible but it's really up to the heads of Ford on whether the car is actually produced or not. We're lucky they let them produce the rx8.

[Bobbeh]

I dont think they will release a new RX-7 with the Rx8 about, they arent different enough. Thats why Im saying its the replacement. Unless they unleash a 300hp+ 2 door sports machine on us. Which i doubt.

[AkUmA]

Originally posted by A i
The supras over in japan are Twin Turboed and have VVTL-i.

not really, its vvt-i, the supra tt (in japan) doesnt have lift. it has alot more torque, but japan has a law or something that limits hp to 280hp for production cars.:)

[ringthree]

Originally posted by Oo DaRk StAr oO
The RX8 is replacing the RX7. The Supra is still made in Japan.

Wow, thats like the opposite of the truth.

The RX-8 is not replacing the RX-7. They will both be in production at the same time (or pretty damn close, at least in Japan). This does not mean neccesarily that the RX-7 is returning.

The Supra ended it's production run in the 2000 model year.

[ringthree]

Originally posted by A i
The supras over in japan are Twin Turboed and have VVTL-i.

The most they got was vvti. And there were NA and turbo's until the end of production.

[ringthree]

Originally posted by F22-Raptor
I have heard that the new Supra should repeat should be coming here in August. This from a guy we all know and love...DD. There is also supposed to be a 5000gt in the works that would come under Lexus but they are not sure if they are going to market it yet. Incidentally Piping is now done for the Spyder and the turbo and they should be receiving the spyder back this Fri.......... Thanks Dave.

August is WAY too soon. Car manufacturers like to show off cars before they come out. You would have seen the car at the Tokyo Auto Salon first. In fact you would have seen it last years Tokyo show.

[t2000gts]

some of these cars, rx-7, supra, 300zx are OLD. glad to see nissan at least made a successor, 350z.

i don't want to see the same rx-7 and supra for sale in the US other than used ones which are cheap. i want newer, better ones.

[F22-Raptor]

Well they arlready did show off the 4300 GT which is what the 5000Gt is supposed to look like. And as far as the Supra if they are using the same body style they wouldn't be showing it off at the auto shows. But in any case I am just parroting what Dave Draper told me should happen. Which doen't mean it will but I, for one am hoping they will reintroduce it to shut down on all these pissants who think they can get away with charging 40k for a Supra with 70-90k miles that cost 40k brand new....

[ringthree]

Do you have any picks of this 4300GT or 5000GT? I have seen the concept pics that one US mag ripped from a Japanese mag. I have never heard of it being in any auto shows yet.

[F22-Raptor]

I think I had them in a Car and Driver or Motortrend along with what the new celica is supposed to look like... I like the 4300 but the Celica kinda looks like a Cougar. If I can find them tonight I will post em

[ringthree]

Right those pics are very old. At least a year and there designations were never determined (I think Motortrends guess where pretty weak). It sounded like you were saying that Toyota has shown the car at a show already. I'm pretty sure they haven't, we would have heard something about it.

[F22-Raptor]

Well one way or the other we'll find out :) But I know what I am praying for.......

[David Draper]

This is supposed to be a good representation of the new 5000GT:

http://www.wctoyotasport.com/38-5000GT.jpg

As for the Supra, I believe it is still available....it's listed as a new car on Toyota Japan's web site anyway, and I can't imagine why they'd still have a car on there that had been discontinued two years ago.

The new Supra is *probably* going to be introduced this August or January/February '03.

I keep thinking August is too soon, but that Jan/Feb is reasonable....However, I'm assuming we would have seen something in the way of auto shows, etc., considering the Matrix, MR-S, new Celica, were all available for viewing a year or so before release....

So uh, rumors....that's about all there really is at the moment.....

[David Draper]

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