Finally!! the TRD Sport-M has arrived *PICS*

[Predator]

*UPDATED 17TH FEB. 2005, SEE PAGE 2*

This is about the fourth or fifth one i know of to enter the Caribbean, which is a market that is extremely saturated with high performance JDM cars, which gives you an idea of just how hard it is to get one of these.

This one will arrive at a dealership in my area in a day or two, so hopefully i can get a couple test drives and post some more pics.
For now these are the only pics i have:

http://www.stepmathauto.com/dec_04/7.jpg
http://www.stepmathauto.com/dec_04/1.jpg
http://www.stepmathauto.com/dec_04/2.jpg
http://www.stepmathauto.com/dec_04/5.jpg

My buddy that imports JDM cars was fighting hard to be the first to get the M into our part of the Caribbean, but looks like someone beat him to it. Here are the importer's comments on the car-

"This is a special Car, only 1200 ever made. Stripped down to the shell and rebuilt from the ground up by Toyota Racing Development (TRD). Suspension pickup points and roof pillars strengthened, body seam welded. The six speed gearbox has a TRD helical LSD. The engine is modified, using lighter pistons, re-profiled camshafts, lighter valves and a lighter flywheel, pushing the 1800cc all alloy engine power to over *200ps/140lb ft (conservative TRD figure) Torque, with terrific throttle response, making this lightweight car surprisingly quick.
The suspension is TRD sportivo; shocks, springs, roll bars and bushes. The Interior is retrimmed with blue alcantra seats and door panels, A sports SRS steering wheel, TRD Quickshifter and TRD instruments are installed with 240kph clock, TRD 17" wheels are installed with trd cat back exhaust."

Wouldn't take much to convince me to trade in my SS-II for this thing.

[MicaCeli]

Purty....I didn't know they touched the engine. Interesting.

[cool2miketlu]

HMMM... Take the cams out and see what they did to it. Would be interesting to see what TRD did :)

[BaLLnFoShO]

wow thats looks cool. love the right hand drive. damm too bad they didnt do the JDM center consoul

[JohnnyWash1]

If the market is saturated with JDM sportscars, why would it be tough to get one of those? Either way, I would jump on that chance if you have the means.

[Blue Bomber]

Originally posted by Predator
The engine is modified, using lighter pistons, re-profiled camshafts, lighter valves and a lighter flywheel, pushing the 1800cc all alloy engine power to over *200ps/140lb ft (conservative TRD figure) Torque, I smell :bs: . I've heard someone claiming it has those mods before. With all that and a "TRD catback" ( :rolleyes: ), how can it only make 10hp over stock? Even if it is a "conservative" number, it would be waaaay over that with cams and a Kazuma exhaust (which Sports-Ms don't come with anyway :ugh: ).

[FloWin_Celica]

I have the JDM AC control and a 6 speed (GT) but I wouldn't mind getting my ride pimped by TRD too looks clean though but needs to be slammed hahah

[MicaCeli]

Originally posted by JohnnyWash1
If the market is saturated with JDM sportscars, why would it be tough to get one of those? Either way, I would jump on that chance if you have the means.

Only 1200 ever made.

[SilverGTS83]

hello sexy!

[JohnnyWash1]

Originally posted by MicaCeli
Only 1200 ever made.

I saw that too. It just seemed weird how he worded the whole thing.

Nevermind, I re-read it. I just woke up when I read this. Forgive me.


Originally posted by Blue Bomber
I smell :bs: . I've heard someone claiming it has those mods before. With all that and a "TRD catback" ( :rolleyes: ), how can it only make 10hp over stock? Even if it is a "conservative" number, it would be waaaay over that with cams and a Kazuma exhaust (which Sports-Ms don't come with anyway :ugh: ).

Maybe the mods play out as more lowend torque and more tractable powerband? It seems they are increasing efficiency, which would give that "terrific throttle response" that we all know the stock GTS is lacking.

[Blue Bomber]

Originally posted by JohnnyWash1
Maybe the mods play out as more lowend torque and more tractable powerband? It seems they are increasing efficiency, which would give that "terrific throttle response" that we all know the stock GTS is lacking. The thing is, I bought a Sports-M brochure off eBay a while back, and it had nothing about any internals. All the other thing like TRD air filter, TRD exhaust (axle back), different suspension, LSD, and strengthened chassis, along with the apperance mods, etc., were listed. Even on Toyota's own site, nothing was said about any internal engine work.

[Seven-Of-Nine]

Predator, those headlights are not from the Sports-M, I'm 95% sure they should be the black TRD projector type, and not the JDM smoked.

Edit they don't even look like the JDM smoked type just seem stock to me.

[evil eye]

The sport M headlights (3 projectors) were an option. Yes, those are stock headlamps.

Mmmmm, I love it.

[JohnnyWash1]

Originally posted by Blue Bomber
The thing is, I bought a Sports-M brochure off eBay a while back, and it had nothing about any internals. All the other thing like TRD air filter, TRD exhaust (axle back), different suspension, LSD, and strengthened chassis, along with the apperance mods, etc., were listed. Even on Toyota's own site, nothing was said about any internal engine work.

Interesting. Well, hopefully we'll run across a dyno or run of one of these someday.

[Predator]

Originally posted by evil eye
The sport M headlights (3 projectors) were an option. Yes, those are stock headlamps.

Mmmmm, I love it.

:werd:
Blue, i've seen many Japanese catalogs with features on the M that mention engine and body work similar to that mentioned by the importer.
Also as evil said, some Ms come with the stock headlights and without the nav. screen, these are options for the M, Blue can probably testify to that.

this is the real deal guys, but don't worry, i'll put it to as much of a test as the dealer will let me ;)

[JohnnyWash1]

Originally posted by Predator
this is the real deal guys, but don't worry, i'll put it to as much of a test as the dealer will let me ;)

Looking forward to your review.

[Blue Bomber]

If anyone is still in contact with BimbleUK, he may be able to confirm whether the Sports M has internals, since he had one. Originally posted by Predator
Also as evil said, some Ms come with the stock headlights and without the nav. screen, these are options for the M, Blue can probably testify to that.:werd:

[Seven-Of-Nine]

http://trdparts.jp/english/parts_2zz-engine.html
http://www.celicasg.com/technicals/2zzge/

[CeliKill180]

what does the M stand for and how do the suspensions differ from teh ssII

[Blue Bomber]

Originally posted by Seven-Of-Nine
http://trdparts.jp/english/parts_2zz-engine.html
http://www.celicasg.com/technicals/2zzge/ Yup, but no valves or cams. I remember seeing prototype TRD cams and valves in one car show pic, along with a TRD race header, but those never went into production. Someone on this board actually bought that same TRD race header.Originally posted by CeliKill180
what does the M stand for and how do the suspensions differ from teh ssII M = Modelista
Suspension = Super Strut (http://gtfour.supras.org.nz/superstrut.htm)

[JohnnyWash1]

Wow, I wonder how that car drives. It does indeed have a better powerband. I'll bet throttle response is great.

[rogergts]

:drool: If u have a chance to pick that car up, I suggest u def. do it Predator.

[bagodoosh]

let's put the steering wheel on the normal side:

http://bagodoosh.home.comcast.net/trdm5.jpg

ah; better.

[P40TigerShark]

How much trouble is it to put in a TRD helical LSD into an US GT-S. And more importantly are they available or are they like finding hen's teeth?

[MicaCeli]

Originally posted by SilverGTS83
hello sexy!

:wave:

Originally posted by P40TigerShark
How much trouble is it to put in a TRD helical LSD into an US GT-S. And more importantly are they available or are they like finding hen's teeth?

The helical LSD is the same as the one in the '03 spyder.

[555 SOUL]

oooo weee that's hot.

[MFChop]

i can garuntee that things hittin around 190-200 at the wheels.
TRD ECU
TRD Headers
TRD filter
TRD oilcooler
TRD exauhst
TRD Pistons

and rember these are all JDM TRD not the us spec parts we are used to

[Illusive]

Originally posted by MFChop
i can garuntee that things hittin around 190-200 at the wheels.
TRD ECU
TRD Headers
TRD filter
TRD oilcooler
TRD exauhst
TRD Pistons

and rember these are all JDM TRD not the us spec parts we are used to

care to make a wager that the car is putting down 200 to the wheels?

[WillyK]

Originally posted by MFChop
TRD ECU

:laugh:

[Blue Bomber]

Originally posted by Illusive
care to make a wager that the car is putting down 200 to the wheels? Originally posted by WillyK
:laugh: :chuckles:

[Predator]

Originally posted by rogergts
:drool: If u have a chance to pick that car up, I suggest u def. do it Predator.

i was seriously thinking about it, but as much as I worship the M, i don't think it would be significant enough of an upgrade to justify the trouble of trading in my SS-II.

when i ditch my celica it will be for something more in the evo/sti class, but not necessarily one of those 2 cars. still, there's a feeling you get when driving a well tuned N/A engine that you just can't get from driving a turbo'ed one..... so who knows what might happen once i get behind the wheel of this thing.

Whoever ends up with it is gonna be pretty busy on the streets though, the M has been a prime target of many JDM import racers around here for a long time, especially the DC-5R guys.

How well would the M stand up to the DC-5R anyway?, anyone know? (Blue that's your que :chuckles: )

[ColdFuzion]

M stands for mis-shift.

CF

[krichards]

The quote says 200ps conservative JDM figure, that translates to about 197-198 WHP for the TRD sports M.

with all the work done, Camshaft re-profiling, Lighter pistons,Lighter valves,lighter flywheel and CAT back on exhaust. Obviously you would be more than 200Hp to the crank, I went to the dealer in Jamaica and he says its going to be cleared next week so I am gonna go have a look at it.

Both myself and predator considering swaaping our SSII for the sports M but the cost is like whoaaaaaa!!!!!

$1.8million Jamaican dollars

[Grooverider]

Originally posted by WillyK
:laugh:
:chuckles: right on

TRD ECU TEH BEST!!1!11!!

[Predator]

Originally posted by krichards
The quote says 200ps conservative JDM figure, that translates to about 197-198 WHP for the TRD sports M.

with all the work done, Camshaft re-profiling, Lighter pistons,Lighter valves,lighter flywheel and CAT back on exhaust. Obviously you would be more than 200Hp to the crank, I went to the dealer in Jamaica and he says its going to be cleared next week so I am gonna go have a look at it.

Both myself and predator considering swaaping our SSII for the sports M but the cost is like whoaaaaaa!!!!!

$1.8million Jamaican dollars

:werd: that's roughly 30k $US. How well do you think it will stand up to the DC5Rs and the DC2Rs? if you could put up some numbers that would help, because you know those guys are going to go after it with a vengeance.

[SilverGTS83]

i d be willing to know the result of a race between a dc5r and a M... honnestly, people around here are all going for k20 nowadays thinking its a total beast!

[WillyK]

I remember reading something awhile back comparing it the DC5R and they were close in handling but the DC5 was faster in a straight line.

[pat_tse]

got to remember japan user higher octance fuel

also i don't think it has the sport m scoop, as it's slightly bigger than stock.

so are the projector lights option? i thought all trd sport m are all the same spec and came with them?

[Tikked Again]

Originally posted by pat_tse
got to remember japan user higher octance fuel



The octanes are the same, it's the rating system that is different.

[E13]

buy a gt and turbo using gts pistons and gts rod length making it 2.0 right=30k. I bought my celica 04' for 27k + $4500 in bolt ons and i dont have nice suspension, just cheap springs or nice rims, just stock. OOops i screwed up somewhere. oh well. Stock GTS's are very slow and the throttle response is pathetic! good points in this thread.

[P40TigerShark]

Originally posted by MicaCeli
The helical LSD is the same as the one in the '03 spyder.

Ahh, thanks. Hmmm, so ya buy a spyder LSD from a toyota dealer parts dept. and then slip it into your GT-S? Anyone done this or know someone who has? Blue?

[Blue Bomber]

Originally posted by P40TigerShark
Ahh, thanks. Hmmm, so ya buy a spyder LSD from a toyota dealer parts dept. and then slip it into your GT-S? Anyone done this or know someone who has? Blue? http://www.newcelica.org/forums/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=781064&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

[Predator]

Originally posted by JohnnyWash1
Looking forward to your review.

the car is still stuck at the docks, but as soon as its cleared and at the dealer i'll post a full review.

I'm hoping i can also convince one of the sales reps to have it dynoed. If so i'll post up the sheets for you guys. Keep your fingers crossed.

[grcelica]

I have a Sport-M replica scoop. Let me see if I can figure out how to post a pic....
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/grcelica/9-04-04010.jpg">

[spaztikid]

alcantra is soft.

[Predator]

Originally posted by grcelica
I have a Sport-M replica scoop. Let me see if I can figure out how to post a pic....
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/grcelica/9-04-04010.jpg">

I'll be sure to ask them why the car is missing its Sport-M scoop the next time i'm down there. As far as I know that isn't an option, and all sport-Ms should come with that scoop.

[Oli]

The sports M doesn't have 200whp it has 200 fly hp

[redline18]

steal the wheels for me ;)

[marc]

I'd drive that Celica.

[Butt Dyno]

Dyno it :)

[Ahrar]

its not all about the engine.......its about weight and handling. The lotus Elise has a gts engine in it but only weights 1900lbs that

[Predator]

*UPDATE*
the car has been at the dealer for a couple of days now, but it was sold almost instantly, so sadly we won't get to do most of the things with it we had hoped.

It was car number 547 in the 1200 car long Sport M line, and the color is absolutely amazing in person. Kind of a purplish blue. Engine and chassis numbers are identical to the SS-II, but it has a very nice looking sport M identification plate right next to the engine i.d. plate in the engine bay. This is where it is numbered as M model 547.

It has the TRD racing pedals, and the Sport-M logo on the back of the car is not a sticker as some people thought, but actually a very high quality metallic fitting. The Sport-M logos on the sides of the car are stickers. The seats felt really good, and everything about the car just seemed refined, and well done.
My brother also says he noticed some differences in the layout of the gauges (redline and configuration) but i didn't notice it, i'll check to confirm the next time i'm down there

Everything else appearance related you can see in the initial pictures i posted, but i will still try and get more pictures of it before it is collected.

Sadly the only way to know how it performs now is to make nice with the new owner, but i'll still see what I can do.

[Predator]

just got back from the dealership again, the RPM gauge is actually in the centre of the instrument panel where our speedometer would normally be, and the speedometer is to the left where the RPM gauge would normally be. To clarify, the white face gauge in this pic
http://www.stepmathauto.com/dec_04/5.jpg
is actually the RPM gauge and not the speedometer.
The speedometer goes up to 240km/h, and the RPM goes up to 10. I'm not sure how indicative this is of what the car can actually do. The dealer mentioned something about the car's onboard computer being able to sense how the car is being driven, and alter fuel cut off accordingly.
He says for example if the car is being driven hard, the fuel cut-off point will increase, but if you gradually rev into the higher RPMs, fuel cut off will be sooner.
I can neither confirm or deny this as we aren't being allowed any test drives, since it has been sold.

The back seats of the car are covered in a sort of leather suede. A couple other newcelica guys have been there to look at it, so if i missed anything you guys post up.

[krichards]

Originally posted by Predator
*UPDATE*
the car has been at the dealer for a couple of days now, but it was sold almost instantly, so sadly we won't get to do most of the things with it we had hoped.

It was car number 547 in the 1200 car long Sport M line, and the color is absolutely amazing in person. Kind of a purplish blue. Engine and chassis numbers are identical to the SS-II, but it has a very nice looking sport M identification plate right next the engine i.d. plate in the engine bay. This is where it is numbered as M model 547.

It has the TRD racing pedals, and the Sport-M logo on the back of the car is not a sticker as some people thought, but actually a very high quality metallic fitting. The Sport-M logos on the sides of the car are stickers. The seats felt really good, and everything about the car just seemed refined, and well done.
My brother also says he noticed some differences in the layout of the gauges (redline and configuration) but i didn't notice it, i'll check to confirm the next time i'm down there

Everything else appearance related you can see in the initial pictures i posted, but i will still try and get more pictures of it before it is collected.

Sadly the only way to know how it performs now it is to make nice with the new owner, but i'll still see what I can do. I had a look at it as well , what I noticed is that it redline at the same 7800 as my year 2000 SSII. The Rev meter was in the centre and the speedometer at the left with max speeds up to 240KM/h versus my 180KM/h.

Everything on the car was official TRD stuff including the rims and suspension ..very sweet looking car and also the dealer to me that the sports M comes with 189WHP from factory vs the SSII with about 162WHP

[gts_rosh]

189WHP is impressive. Thanks for the updates, I'm reading this all the time, since I really like the Sports M model and wish I could own one too. Get us some more pictures whenever you can and also driving impressions.

[TRD2000GTS]

damn that is a beautiful car....id love to own a true sports-m edition.....

[Rey_Vibora]

:drool:　日本

[Predator]

Originally posted by krichards
the dealer to me that the sports M comes with 189WHP from factory

:werd: i just remembered he mentioned that, hmmmm.... if my memory serves me correctly, isnt the DC-5R like around 175whp? :evil:

the dealer also confirmed that every Sport M celica comes from the factory looking exactly as the one posted above does, and that everything else like the famous Sport M headlights, scoop, nav. screen etc.. etc.. are dealership options in Japan that the customer has to opt for.

A fully decked out M with all the dealership options would look like this

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/10102celicaTRDSportsM3.jpg

in terms of performance, they are all the same.

He also said the M was built specifically to target the Integra Type-R, and was also toyota's response to the "girly car" comments that have been thrown at the celica community.

[gts_rosh]

Here's a question for you guys that watch a lot of asian videos. Is there a video from either Best Motoring or whoever, that ever tested the TRD Sports M? I would like to watch some video of the car in action. Does anybody know?

[grcelica]

I am still curious why it didn't have the sport-M scoop. Its not an option....

[switchlanez]

Originally posted by grcelica
I am still curious why it didn't have the sport-M scoop. Its not an option....

Originally posted by Predator
and that everything else like the famous Sport M headlights, scoop, nav. screen etc.. etc.. are dealership options in Japan that the customer has to opt for.

[switchlanez]

Originally posted by Predator
A fully decked out M with all the dealership options would look like this

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/10102celicaTRDSportsM3.jpg


lovely pic. so the "fully decked out" M has those powder-coated GT-S kind of wheels? i could be mistaken, but the wheels shown in ur 1st post look more like an upgrade to me. just curious.

Originally posted by gts_rosh

Here's a question for you guys that watch a lot of asian videos. Is there a video from either Best Motoring or whoever, that ever tested the TRD Sports M? I would like to watch some video of the car in action. Does anybody know?

i second that. anybody??

[Predator]

Originally posted by switchlanez
lovely pic. so the "fully decked out" M has those powder-coated GT-S kind of wheels? i could be mistaken, but the wheels shown in ur 1st post look more like an upgrade to me. just curious.

i second that. anybody??

i think the rims on the first one i posted are from TRD's aftermarket line of products, and not really a dealership option.

here's another pic of an M and notice it also has the powdercoated GTS looking wheels:

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/10102celicaTRDSportsM2.jpg

and another

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/10102celicaTRDSportsMCelica.gif


as for videos of the M in action, BELIEVE me i've searched. No luck so far. But since there's one being driven around in my area now, hopefully i can get some first hand experience.

[celicarida]

Best Motoring Video Japan 091 (July 2000) - 51 Cars Reviews and Battles - 9 Different Car Classes
Audi TT Coupe 1.8T Quattro / Mercedes AMG C43 / BMW M5 / Chevrolet Corvette Z51 / Maserati 3200GT / Fiat Punto Abarth / Toyota Celica TRD Sports M (MY00) / Toyota MR2 Spyder / Porsche Boxster S / Nissan Silvia S15 Spec R / Honda Integra Type R (I) / Renault Megane Scenic / Toyota Yaris 1.0 TRD Motor Sport Base / Toyota Yaris 1.3 Euro Sport Edition / Mazda Premacy G / Subaru Forester S / Nissan Micra 1.3G / Honda Logo 1.3 / Toyota Crown 3.0 Royal Saloon G / Nissan Gloria 300 Ultima-Z / Honda S2000 / and many more!!

- Running Time: approx 56 mins - VCD (Video CD) Format - Chinese subtitles - Japanese dialog


TOYOTA CELICA TRD SPORTS M in this video.

[JohnnyWash1]

Originally posted by celicarida
Best Motoring Video Japan 091 (July 2000) - 51 Cars Reviews and Battles - 9 Different Car Classes
Audi TT Coupe 1.8T Quattro / Mercedes AMG C43 / BMW M5 / Chevrolet Corvette Z51 / Maserati 3200GT / Fiat Punto Abarth / Toyota Celica TRD Sports M (MY00) / Toyota MR2 Spyder / Porsche Boxster S / Nissan Silvia S15 Spec R / Honda Integra Type R (I) / Renault Megane Scenic / Toyota Yaris 1.0 TRD Motor Sport Base / Toyota Yaris 1.3 Euro Sport Edition / Mazda Premacy G / Subaru Forester S / Nissan Micra 1.3G / Honda Logo 1.3 / Toyota Crown 3.0 Royal Saloon G / Nissan Gloria 300 Ultima-Z / Honda S2000 / and many more!!

- Running Time: approx 56 mins - VCD (Video CD) Format - Chinese subtitles - Japanese dialog


TOYOTA CELICA TRD SPORTS M in this video.

Good find. Now somebody please find the clip on the net.

[silvercelica2000]

Originally posted by Predator
:werd:
Blue, i've seen many Japanese catalogs with features on the M that mention engine and body work similar to that mentioned by the importer.
Also as evil said, some Ms come with the stock headlights and without the nav. screen, these are options for the M, Blue can probably testify to that.

this is the real deal guys, but don't worry, i'll put it to as much of a test as the dealer will let me ;)

hi!

the engine is essentially the same as SS2 (GTS). I took out everything in the engine. The valves are stock and not lighter!
I am driving the M0592 ... so what's your serial number?

[Blue Bomber]

Originally posted by silvercelica2000
the engine is essentially the same as SS2 (GTS). I took out everything in the engine. The valves are stock and not lighter! Figured as much. :) Why would TRD take the time and money make (or have other companies make) all those supposed parts, only to include them on 1500 cars, and then only release pistons to the public (which aren't even in the M)?

[Predator]

Originally posted by silvercelica2000
hi!

the engine is essentially the same as SS2 (GTS). I took out everything in the engine. The valves are stock and not lighter!
I am driving the M0592 ... so what's your serial number?

Well, i've been to a number of websites that state that the M does indeed have engine modifications as mentioned above.
I also saw a TRD Japan catalog a couple years back that mentioned similar engine work.

I've asked one of my friends in the import business about it, and he says some sources mention the engine work, and some don't. He's trying to get one of his guys at Toyota in Japan as we speak for more information.

More importantly though, I doubt a dealership as large and as reputable as this one, would lie about the car and risk the possible consequences if they were caught.

At least we can all pretty much agree though that the car makes roughly 200bhp, and has terrific throttle response, and Blue, i don't think even you would dispute its suspension setup, and how well it must handle.

[Jimmy101]

Does anyone know where I could get those front bumper and rear trd-m emblems?

Or a part number, I have a friend who flies to Japan almost every day who can check for me.

If they can be ordered in Japan, I'll be glad to get some extra or do a group buy...

[Blue Bomber]

Originally posted by Jimmy101
Does anyone know where I could get those front bumper and rear trd-m emblems?

Or a part number, I have a friend who flies to Japan almost every day who can check for me.

If they can be ordered in Japan, I'll be glad to get some extra or do a group buy... I believe you need a Sports M VIN number to get those parts. They're also outrageously priced, like $100+ for just an emblem. :ugh:

[VirgilDPinoy]

damn those TRD rims are freaking sexy!!!

[gtghost]

Crap, I think the internals is not included with the car. I blew something while I was lapping at Sepang, and we stripped the gearbox and the mechanic told me everything was original. Heck it didn't even have the TRD helical lsd and the flywheel was stock.

I bought it from a used owner is japan and i'm not sure if he/she took out anything. But based on the owners assumptions (2, I'm one of em'), I assume that the car is stock on engines except the external stuff. Blah that sucks. But the good thing is i bought it at the same price of a GTS.

[gtghost]

and by the way, i got smoked by a dc5-r (he was on slick but we tested it on the straight there and on 3rd he said byebye.). No offense but i feel the sport-m is total crap. I would have bought a dc5r if i had enough $$$.

[TrD CeLiCa]

Thats an awesome celica! What year is it? Its rare 1200 made, I thought the TRD were the hard ones to get, guess not. Sweet car though, I would ride it, may be a little hard to get use to the shifter in the left than right.

[PassedYa]

Its nice but i would rather have a type-r. only thing the type-r lacks is an updated interior, which was corrected in the dc5. They said this car was made to hang with the type-r but honda perfected the type-r's suspension back in 96. Sorry toyota, your a little late to the party.

[JohnnyWash1]

Damn this thread is old.

[CELERY GT-S]

how much is a trd helical LSD..and why can't we just buy the oem cams from that car over here? there has to be replacement parts for it right?

[buck naked]

You can buy the OEM M-Sport cams in the USA. Just ask your dealers parts department for a set of vanilla stock cams. JDM y0!

[CELERY GT-S]

lol u needed to register just to throw that line at me in ur first post..lol

cmon it must be possible to get those...lol

[buck naked]

It was just a coincidence that it was my first post =)

In all seriousness, the M-Sport runs the same cams everyone else does.

[silv3r0ne]

lol u needed to register just to throw that line at me in ur first post..lol

cmon it must be possible to get those...lol


You'd need the VIN of the car (proof of purchase) in order to buy a replacement anything for it from the dealer.

[CELERY GT-S]

so we need to find a way to bribe someone with a TRD Sport-M to buy them for us..lol
or maybe find a vin and just pretend it yours?? *shrug*