celica paint is horrible [Archive]

DopeCelicaGT

02-09-2005, 12:14 AM

Yep, we all know about the infamous Toyota paint. The funny thing is if you look at a brand new Forerunner or any Lexus you will notice that the paint looks a hell of a lot better. Hell, even a friend of mine's 2004 Super White Corolla has better paint than my Celica. I think Celica owners just got screwed all the way around. I wonder why all Toyota's can't look the same LOL paint quality wise.

Blue Bomber

02-09-2005, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by DopeCelicaGT
The funny thing is if you look at a brand new Forerunner or any Lexus you will notice that the paint looks a hell of a lot better. Hell, even a friend of mine's 2004 Super White Corolla has better paint than my Celica. Remember, those cars are also higher off the ground than the Celica (especially the 4Runner).

Beast

02-09-2005, 03:36 AM

Originally posted by Blue Bomber
Remember, those cars are also higher off the ground than the Celica (especially the 4Runner).

Agreed. I doubt there are many cars w/ paintjobs that can withstand small rocks hitting the car that's running 60+ mph.

boostjunkie26

02-09-2005, 08:00 AM

If you think Toyota's paint is bad then don't buy a Subaru. Toyota's paintjobs are light years ahead of Subarus. I should know, I've owned three of them!

MicaCeli

02-09-2005, 08:06 AM

It seem like there was some law that was passed about how paint manufacturers could not use some materials that makes the paint harder to chip.......(lead?) because of environmental reasons around 1999. From what I've been told.

555 SOUL

02-09-2005, 08:40 AM

that's what happens when your ride is low to the ground.

sheizen

02-09-2005, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by 555 SOUL
that's what happens when your ride is low to the ground.

i clear bra my sh!t. whats a rock chip? :D

SilverGTS83

02-09-2005, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by mvZx2
is it just me or is toyota or more specifically celica paint horrible? The orange peel texture in some places, and with the thin paint, it chips and scratches so easily! now that you mention it, it makes more sense, i got that orange peel on the driverside pillar down to the end of the door, close to the middle of the roof and i t sucks!

silv3r0ne

02-09-2005, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by sheizen
i clear bra my sh!t. whats a rock chip? :D

whered you pick that up, i know 3M makes it but i havnt really seen it around, also how much do they usually cost?

NoUse4aName

02-09-2005, 09:35 AM

The paint on my 2000 is in excellent condition. Few touchups on the front from chips but there's no orange peel, no swirls, and shines up impressively after a good coat of Zaino.

Much better than the paint job on my 2003 Mazda6. There were chips and scratches from road debris all over that and orange peel everywhere.

If you think it's bad on the Celica, don't ever buy a car that was painted in the US after those EPA regulations went in place.

sO mAnY mOdS

02-09-2005, 09:59 AM

its good compared to nissan, dodge, chevy basically all the rest of the of non luxury car manufacturers

but my hood is full of little chips from road crap

but my 03 se-r was rusting!

kxtim5

02-09-2005, 05:19 PM

I did not like my factory paint job so i repainted it myself house of kolor bittersweet pearl

BgLtUsE

02-09-2005, 05:26 PM

Wow, my paint is still in perfect condition. I had my car for a little over a year and a half now and the paint still looks great!

cycocelica

02-09-2005, 07:01 PM

yes it does suck, especially on a black car

*ndy

02-09-2005, 07:12 PM

[My Paint looks AWESOME after near five years of destruction.

Distpite nurmerous daily driver dings and your expected rock chips on the front, my paint looks like a mirror (when clean)!

I have no complaints about toyota paint. The only thing I can think of is that their silver is awfully dull.

*ndy

TaeMachine

02-09-2005, 07:20 PM

I see a lot of orange peel on black Mercedes too.

XYRCNCP

02-09-2005, 07:25 PM

weird...I had my CB Celica for 4 years and only had 6 small chips on my hood.

mvZx2

02-09-2005, 08:48 PM

your car is silver... its harder to see the scratches in the clear and deeper... try owning a darker colored celi, like black, carbon blue, spec blue, etc...

alphasubzero949

02-09-2005, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by DopeCelicaGT
Yep, we all know about the infamous Toyota paint.

Blue Bomber

02-09-2005, 09:25 PM

For reference, I had my front end repainted after someone hit me, and the paint chipped off just as fast as stock. Gotta get it repainted again soon. :wtc:

DopeCelicaGT

02-09-2005, 11:22 PM

LOL, my main complaint is that after 2 years my car looks like it is 5 years old, mainly from road debris and dings put in it from variuos things. All of my driving in this car is done on the interstate. When I had all of my previous cars I lived in town so they never go driven on the interstate. I would say that Toyota paint isn't necessarily that bad but there are a lot of cars out there that have much better paint jobs than any Toyota I have ever seen, and yes I take great care of my car. I guess the absolute thing that I hate most about all the Toyotas I have seen and what my car has the most of is "orange peel". I have it really bad down the doors, rear quarters, and front bumper. The front fenders and everything on the top is perfect. I dunno I jsut like paint finishes that look as smooth as glass and no matter how much you wax or no matter how many coats of Zain you use I jsut cannot get that deep luster of an orange peel free car. Now don't get me wrong the car shines up nicely but just doesn't look as good as it should IMO.

XYRCNCP

02-10-2005, 05:27 AM

Originally posted by mvZx2
your car is silver... its harder to see the scratches in the clear and deeper... try owning a darker colored celi, like black, carbon blue, spec blue, etc...

who are you talking to?

mvZx2

02-10-2005, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by *ndy
[My Paint looks AWESOME after near five years of destruction.

Distpite nurmerous daily driver dings and your expected rock chips on the front, my paint looks like a mirror (when clean)!

I have no complaints about toyota paint. The only thing I can think of is that their silver is awfully dull.

*ndy

mvZx2

02-10-2005, 01:14 PM

how can your paint look "like a mirror" and "be dull" at the same time?

RedNOSceli

02-11-2005, 08:53 AM

had 70,000 miles...paint looked like new except for the expected paint chips in the front.

*ndy

02-11-2005, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by mvZx2
how can your paint look "like a mirror" and "be dull" at the same time?

Read again, I stated that the SILVER paint looked dull and lustless.

*ndy

DopeCelicaGT

02-11-2005, 12:27 PM

That is probably the reason I do not like mine. It is silver and as we all know silver just does not have the depth that you can get in a blue, black, or even a red car.

slidr

02-11-2005, 03:32 PM

Anyone know what brand of paint Toyota uses?

Superstuddc27

02-12-2005, 09:41 AM

Toyota sucks... i have like a billion rock chips on the hood but it came like that when i bought it. A bunch of clips on the front bumper, but oddly enough, more chips on the hood than the bumper.

Honda's paint is pretty decent.. it feels firm and my friend's accord doesn't have any chips at all. Acura too (which is the same as honda)... i accidently dropped a small hammer on my friend's RSX-s, and not even a scratch. I was about to flip out lol

TRD-CELICA-GT02

02-12-2005, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by DopeCelicaGT
LOL, my main complaint is that after 2 years my car looks like it is 5 years old, mainly from road debris and dings put in it from variuos things. All of my driving in this car is done on the interstate. When I had all of my previous cars I lived in town so they never go driven on the interstate. I would say that Toyota paint isn't necessarily that bad but there are a lot of cars out there that have much better paint jobs than any Toyota I have ever seen, and yes I take great care of my car. I guess the absolute thing that I hate most about all the Toyotas I have seen and what my car has the most of is "orange peel". I have it really bad down the doors, rear quarters, and front bumper. The front fenders and everything on the top is perfect. I dunno I jsut like paint finishes that look as smooth as glass and no matter how much you wax or no matter how many coats of Zain you use I jsut cannot get that deep luster of an orange peel free car. Now don't get me wrong the car shines up nicely but just doesn't look as good as it should IMO.

I feel the same way! I have a white 02 Celi and it seems a lot older then it already is! Oxidation sucks on a white car! It's not even " Super white " anymore... :chuckles:

I have a ton of rock chips on my front bumper and hood.

I'm seriously concerning a repaint very soon. Can't stand lookin at how ugly my car is now, paint wise. :(

FlatSpin187

02-13-2005, 08:40 PM

the reason the paint probably sucks is because its an water base paint.. or atleast the Sequoia.. Tundras and Seinna's are.. and yes the paint jobs suck.. They have the orange peel look also.. I really dont know why... I work on the doorline and have never been able to go in the paint shop at TMMI.. They got some many rules about.. what u can wear and what not (shampoo..hairspray..etc...)

fleetingglimpse

02-14-2005, 07:40 AM

I agree toyota paint blows. I had my bumper repainted a year ago, and it is so chipped, it looks like i have had the car for ten years. VW paint is nice. you can wash a vw and it feels like it is waxed. I waxed my car and it stays smooth feeling for maybe two days.

Jesse IL

02-14-2005, 07:58 AM

I don't have have any orange peel issues, but the front end of the car chips like crazy. I'm considering having the front end of the car repainted with a higher quality paint to try and prevent this. The piant that has been used is so soft, not only does it chip but bugs seem to get embedded in it.

silv3r0ne

02-14-2005, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by Jesse IL
I don't have have any orange peel issues, but the front end of the car chips like crazy. I'm considering having the front end of the car repainted with a higher quality paint to try and prevent this. The piant that has been used is so soft, not only does it chip but bugs seem to get embedded in it.

i feel ya about the bugs...

NoUse4aName

02-14-2005, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by fleetingglimpse
I agree toyota paint blows. I had my bumper repainted a year ago, and it is so chipped, it looks like i have had the car for ten years. VW paint is nice. you can wash a vw and it feels like it is waxed. I waxed my car and it stays smooth feeling for maybe two days.

Sounds like you're just using a crappy wax then.

Took a claybar to mine and Zainoed it last November. It's still very smooth despite being beat up by all the Ohio winter driving.

Aftermarket paint is subject to the same environmental regulations and problems that go with it. U.S. regulations are actually tougher. Best to keep your 'JDM' paint as long as possible.

This year, Japan's automakers are giving up their organic solvent paint and introducing water based too. So it's only going to get worse.

X-EVIL-X

02-14-2005, 08:01 PM

does paint have anything to do with it or is it the clear coat? my stock color had lots of chips in it hopefully this audi paint holds up.

DopeCelicaGT

02-14-2005, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by NoUse4aName
Sounds like you're just using a crappy wax then.

Took a claybar to mine and Zainoed it last November. It's still very smooth despite being beat up by all the Ohio winter driving.

Aftermarket paint is subject to the same environmental regulations and problems that go with it. U.S. regulations are actually tougher. Best to keep your 'JDM' paint as long as possible.

This year, Japan's automakers are giving up their organic solvent paint and introducing water based too. So it's only going to get worse.

I dunno how your Zaino lasts that long. Perhaps it is just because I wash mine once a week while you may not wash yours as often, but when I put Zaino on my car the finish doesn't seem to last but like maybe a month or so. I put around 8-9 coats of Zaino on my car last November and it seems to have held up pretty well, but byt the end of December early January the car started to look dull again and feels like it needs waxed again. I dunno I love how Zaino looks for the first couple of days it is applied but I am pretty unimpressed with it considering the amount of work and product that is needed to get decent results. I seem to keep flip flopping back and forth between Zaino and regular wax. All of my friends that are detailer's say that they do not like Zaino simply because after a week or so the finish begins to take on a dull plastic-like look which may be what I am seeing. It looses that polished wet look after a few days, even when you use their wash and wipe it down with Z16 spray detailer every now and again. I dunno maybe it has simply worn off LOL.

NoUse4aName

02-15-2005, 07:26 AM

Even with just a single coat on the car it shines up after a wash and beads rain up in those fascinatingly tiny beads for a good 3-4 months for me.

Maybe you're using too much when applying it? Not giving it enough time to bond? Do you use ZFX or still using Z1?

NoUse4aName

02-15-2005, 08:31 AM

I just don't see how you can call a paint job that holds up this well after 5 years crappy.

No sign of UV caused fading or other issues on the roof.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/419000-419999/419158_37_full.jpg

Front's held up very well.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/419000-419999/419158_35_full.jpg

I haven't found any noticeable orange peel yet either.

DopeCelicaGT

02-15-2005, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by NoUse4aName
Even with just a single coat on the car it shines up after a wash and beads rain up in those fascinatingly tiny beads for a good 3-4 months for me.

Maybe you're using too much when applying it? Not giving it enough time to bond? Do you use ZFX or still using Z1?

I am still using ZFX!Originally posted by NoUse4aName
I just don't see how you can call a paint job that holds up this well after 5 years crappy.

No sign of UV caused fading or other issues on the roof.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/419000-419999/419158_37_full.jpg

Front's held up very well.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/419000-419999/419158_35_full.jpg

I haven't found any noticeable orange peel yet either.

Are you a Zaino user? Is your car garage kept or does it sit outside all of the time? I think my car is in pretty damn good shape but the paint just doesn't seem to have the depth and shine that it did when it was new no matter what I do to it. Sure if you wash it clay it, wash it again, then put like 9 coats of Zaino on it, it looks damn good for a bout 2 weeks but then after that it kind of gets dull looking and the reflectivity of it goes to ****. Then again my car sits outside all of the time 24/7 365 days a year.

By the way why is your hood different color than your front bumper and front two fenders?

NoUse4aName

02-15-2005, 02:12 PM

Garaged Zaino user only have a single coat of z5 on in those pics.

There are a few touch up spots on the front bumper, some done better than others. But it does match the hood well. Think that's just a lighting issue in that pic.

DopeCelicaGT

02-15-2005, 02:41 PM

Hmmm....LOL I tend to take really good care of my car and I use Zaino a lot but I would be embarassed to take pics of my car right now. It cleans up well but lately I haven't been as nice to it as I have been in the past. Here is pics of what it looked like 8 months ago or so and this is without Zaino, just plain old Meguiar's wax and polish.

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/10387celica8copy-med.jpg

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/10387celica7copy-med.jpg

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/10387celica9copy-med.jpg

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/10387celidetpic7-med.jpg

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/10387celidetpic9-med.jpg

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/10387celidetpic1.jpg

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/10387celidetpic4.jpg