View Full Version : Help! I think my engine is hydrolocked
Hepnotic
02-21-2005, 08:42 AM
I have an AEM CAI. Its been pouring rain here in southern CA, I drove out of my parking structure and my engine just shut off, now it wont start at all. The water was almost up to my knees. It was almost high enough to start pouring into the car.
My car is a 2001, its way out of warranty. how much do you think i'm going to end up fixing here? Im going to call a tow truck now, and blindly pick an auto shop. im so f'ed, I dont have any money to be paying for repairs. How long does it take to fix a hydrolocked engine?
Read my update post below!
Radi0active Man
02-21-2005, 09:27 AM
You need a new engine.
The water was up to your knees and you still decided to drive?! Wow...just wow.
silv3r0ne
02-21-2005, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Radi0active Man
You need a new engine.
The water was up to your knees and you still decided to drive?! Wow...just wow.
:werd: ...thats just plain stupid. ure gonna need a new motor...and you should NEVER drive around if the water is that high, so let this be a lesson learned.
on a side note, id check the boards and call up a few junkyards to see if anyone has a motor for sale.
what do you have a gt or gts? I depends on what happened to the block. what happens is water gets sucked you intake and water doesn't like to compress even at extreme pressure so a rod snapped trying to compress it. If you have no block damage which is doubtful but possible, you could go cheap and throw a new rod in thats it, but it all depends on what happened, maybe if the water was that deep you can file for flood damage through your insurance company, or something. Worst case you can get a used engine for a little over 1,300 or something like that. I wouldn't suggest taking it to any old shop tho
Lormax
02-21-2005, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by 5110
what do you have a gt or gts? I depends on what happened to the block. what happens is water gets sucked you intake and water doesn't like to compress even at extreme pressure so a rod snapped trying to compress it. If you have no block damage which is doubtful but possible, you could go cheap and throw a new rod in thats it, but it all depends on what happened, maybe if the water was that deep you can file for flood damage through your insurance company, or something. Worst case you can get a used engine for a little over 1,300 or something like that. I wouldn't suggest taking it to any old shop tho
Filing for flood damage is what you want to do here, IF you have Comprehensive coverage. The water is an Act of God. Pay your deductible and you should be good to go. Goodluck though.
Mistrimeat
02-21-2005, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by 5110
what do you have a gt or gts?
Read: sig
Hepnotic
02-21-2005, 12:19 PM
*Update*
I had the car towed to a local toyota service center.
I had the mechanics do a diagnostic.
They confirmed that the engine is hydrolocked. They are currently trying to repair it by removing the spark plugs and sucking the water out if the engine, this could possibly fix it, it's $350 to have this done. Now if this doesn't fix it, then i'd have to get a new engine.
I have comprehensive state farm insurance. It should be covered because of flooding, right? Just pay the damned 1,000 debductible. I hope that the insurance company doesnt find out about the CAI and blame it on that and refuse my claim.
I thought i could make it through the puddle of water, once it starting getting really deep, I decided to back up, and then the engine froze and it was too late. I also have progress sports springs, so that makes it a bit lower, but I also have 17" rims so that raises it an inch.
Bi-Mon-Sci-Fi-Con
02-21-2005, 12:34 PM
Your insurance may(probably will) deny your claim because you had an aftermarket intake, which is the direct cause of the problem. Your car wouldn't have hydrolocked if you had your stock intake system.
TRD GT-S
02-21-2005, 12:39 PM
Common sense shoulda kicked in man. Hopefully your insurance will cover it. Good luck.
01 Spectra GT-S
02-21-2005, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Hepnotic
I also have progress sports springs, so that makes it a bit lower, but I also have 17" rims so that raises it an inch.
what make you think 17" rim will raise the car an inch higher? as long as you get lower profile tires, the overall diameter should be the same as stock :)
Mistrimeat
02-21-2005, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by TRD GT-S
Common sense shoulda kicked in man.
If it was common, everyone would have it. :chuckles:
CeliKill180
02-21-2005, 03:45 PM
i got water in my motor, me and my nieghbor pulled the plugs and i cranked the engine while he blew comrpressed air in all the cylinders. 350 is bs especially if your motor is shot
modenaplz
02-21-2005, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Mistrimeat
If it was common, everyone would have it. :chuckles:
were
alphasubzero949
02-21-2005, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Hepnotic
I have comprehensive state farm insurance. It should be covered because of flooding, right?
Read your policy; don't expect us to magically know.
Originally posted by Bi-Mon-Sci-Fi-Con
Your insurance may(probably will) deny your claim because you had an aftermarket intake, which is the direct cause of the problem. Your car wouldn't have hydrolocked if you had your stock intake system.
Almost true, but I'm sure that even with a short ram or a stock airbox the possibility of hydrolocking in water that deep would still have been very real.
Gas-n-Grease
02-21-2005, 11:37 PM
you need yourself a new engine.. my friend hydrolocked his car recently. Mark at MD Automotive (aka Jackson Racing shop) took a look at his engine, to find that he had twisted his connecting rods in halves. We're making necklaces outta the pieces.. anyone interested?? :chuckles:
badints
02-21-2005, 11:52 PM
this recently happened to me as well. I also have State Farm Insurance. I only have a short ram, but the guy at the dealership said that the insurance companies usually cover it, even with a cai. Mine was covered under comprehensive, no deductible. They gave me close to 5k and my engine had 85,000 miles on it. I am kicking in an extra $700 and getting a re-manufactured engine.
would the AEM Air Bypass Valve helped in this situation?
modenaplz
02-22-2005, 12:55 AM
maybe/maybe not because judging from how deep he described the puddle to be, it could have submerged the valve as well
Blue Bomber
02-22-2005, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by edge
would the AEM Air Bypass Valve helped in this situation? Nope, our intakes are too short. The water wouldn't be able to slow down fast enough, and would end up shooting straight past the valve.
alphasubzero949
02-22-2005, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by Gas-n-Grease
We're making necklaces outta the pieces.. anyone interested?? :chuckles:
Bling bling?
XYRCNCP
02-22-2005, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by alphasubzero949
Read your policy; don't expect us to magically know.
But this is a message board...ALL information, common sense or not, urgent or not, should be answered here immediately...:gap:
Originally posted by edge
would the AEM Air Bypass Valve helped in this situation?
Originally posted by Blue Bomber
Nope, our intakes are too short. The water wouldn't be able to slow down fast enough, and would end up shooting straight past the valve.
:stupid:
Mistrimeat
02-22-2005, 06:15 AM
Originally posted by modenaplz
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what
xav3x
02-22-2005, 08:54 AM
hey..dood i'm in cali too. when i saw the water half way up the curb, i got out of the right lane. plus i have no fender plastics.. but....i do have a lil round sleeve i made out of an aluminum sheet.. i just slip it around the filter... so the filter is surrounded by the sleeve and water can't get to it...[but still dont' go driving thru puddles.. i avoid all puddles] yea.. its not going to get as much air.. but should be good.. i'll be running rich. i just take it off when its not raining. If anyone wants to correct me of my thinking.. please do. I for one, dont' want to harm my car either.
oh any one has a right front fender plastic thats ripped that wants to sell PM me.
Lormax
02-22-2005, 10:55 AM
Maybe you should have soaked the stock intake in water, then re-installed it before taking it to the dealer. Goodluck with the insurance company
Gas-n-Grease
02-22-2005, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by alphasubzero949
Bling bling?
you betcha!
Littleguy
02-22-2005, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Lormax
Maybe you should have soaked the stock intake in water, then re-installed it before taking it to the dealer. Goodluck with the insurance company
It's worked for some people ;)
Hepnotic
02-23-2005, 10:40 AM
*** UPDATE ***
Hey guys, here's a little update on what happened with this ****. I made a post on the repair forum, but i'll paste it for you guys here:
It rained a ****load yesterday. The parking area outside my condo got flooded. I knew beforehand that I had to be careful about driving through water because a) I have a cold air intake, and b) I have sports springs so my car is an inch or two lower than stock. It
CeliKill180
02-23-2005, 11:09 AM
It's unethical to not inform them of the problem
Pinchy
02-23-2005, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by CeliKill180
It's unethical to not inform them of the problem
Boy, if some ppl in ecelica knew what that ment, a lot of us wouldnt be here...........:sad: and I wouldnt be out a hundred bucks.......:mad:
alphasubzero949
02-23-2005, 12:48 PM
"E-Celica" and "ethical" do not belong in the same sentence; kind of like "Geo" and "sporty."
Gas-n-Grease
02-23-2005, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by alphasubzero949
kind of like "Geo" and "sporty."
:chuckles:
SuperCelica[GTS]
02-23-2005, 04:52 PM
that sux
CeliKill180
02-23-2005, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by alphasubzero949
"E-Celica" and "ethical" do not belong in the same sentence; kind of like "Geo" and "sporty."
the E doesn't stand for ethics
badints
02-24-2005, 09:30 AM
Are you saying that you have a $1000 insurance deductible for comprehensive; like broken windows, vandalism or act of god (in your and my case flooding)? Mine is $0, so my insurance is basically paying it all. $1000 sounds like a collision deductible and a pretty high one at that, not a comprhensive deductible. Well, good luck with your situation anyway. My Re-manufactured engine is supposed to be at the dealers today, so hopefully I'll have the celica back by Monday or Tuesday.
Hepnotic
03-02-2005, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by 01 Spectra GT-S
what make you think 17" rim will raise the car an inch higher? as long as you get lower profile tires, the overall diameter should be the same as stock :)
Then how come when people put on 18" or 19" wheels and keep their stock suspensions, their car looks like its riding on stilts?
alphasubzero949
03-02-2005, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Hepnotic
Then how come when people put on 18" or 19" wheels and keep their stock suspensions, their car looks like its riding on stilts?
Because it makes their ride MaD TyTe y0.
TRD GT-S
03-02-2005, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Hepnotic
Then how come when people put on 18" or 19" wheels and keep their stock suspensions, their car looks like its riding on stilts?
On a 17's you can get 40 series tires and remain close to stock. On 19's, you can only get a narrow size of tires with our fender wells.
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