heel toe

[Mochiman]

anyone know of any good pedals to make heel toe shifting easier? am i just that lame or is it hard in the celica. the pedal heights are too different and makes it hard.

[andrews]

your just lame

[Mochiman]

thanks

[shrumdude]

Try different shoes.

[TaeMachine]

It's easier on a celica becuase the gas and brake are close to each other.

[My Sixth Gear]

why are heel toe shifting for.. kinda pointless for daily driving

[aerospike2002]

Originally posted by My Sixth Gear
why are heel toe shifting for.. kinda pointless for daily driving

Heel-toe shifting is for circuit comp. or drifting. Not for daily driving unless you're just a moron and think it makes you cool to do that all the way during your morning commute :wtf:

[SLOWICA]

These are the pedals I use, they have adjustable brake and accelerator pedals...

http://www.extremeredline.com/razo/pic/RP85.jpg http://www.extremeredline.com/razo/pic/RP81.jpg

[hjkim483]

nice... I think heel toe is a pretty useful thing to practice/know.

[Bi-Mon-Sci-Fi-Con]

Originally posted by My Sixth Gear
why are heel toe shifting for.. kinda pointless for daily driving

Originally posted by aerospike2002
Heel-toe shifting is for circuit comp. or drifting. Not for daily driving unless you're just a moron and think it makes you cool to do that all the way during your morning commute :wtf:

Practice makes perfect.

[silv3r0ne]

its hard...i have big feet :(

hey aerospike, what part of sac are you from?

[S|Lv3rBu||et]

Originally posted by andrews
your just lame

That would be: "you're." ;)

Originally posted by SLOWICA
These are the pedals I use, they have adjustable brake and accelerator pedals...


Niiiiiice.... I know what my next pedals are going to be!! :drool: Know what Razo part# they are?

And, back on topic, yeah... heel/toe shifting is just hard and takes a lot of practice.

[Chaz]

^^^
try looking here
http://www.cardomain.com/shoplist~b~RAZO~t~Sport+Pedals

[OneCrAzYAkAbInE]

Originally posted by aerospike2002
Heel-toe shifting is for circuit comp. or drifting. Not for daily driving unless you're just a moron and think it makes you cool to do that all the way during your morning commute :wtf:

makes you look cool...haha..how can anyone see you do it

[hjkim483]

they don't sell in a set of three? it seems like you have to buy em all separate.

[S|Lv3rBu||et]

Originally posted by hjkim483
they don't sell in a set of three? it seems like you have to buy em all separate.

No, 'cause you have a choise between the 'large' or 'small' gas pedal.

[modenaplz]

Originally posted by OneCrAzYAkAbInE
makes you look cool...haha..how can anyone see you do it

well somebody knowledgable in cars who is behind you would recognize the brake lights and hear the throttle blip :gap:

[OneCrAzYAkAbInE]

Originally posted by modenaplz
well somebody knowledgable in cars who is behind you would recognize the brake lights and hear the throttle blip :gap:

i guess

[Illusive]

try sitting a little bit on your left hip, not so much that your uncomfortable, but enough so that you dont have to twist your knee/ankle that much untill you get the flexibility & coordination down.

I found the gt-s pedals a bit more difficult to heel toe (at first) due to the gas pedal height not being the same height as the brake pedal.

also if you ever need to use a 1st gear turn and have to gear down under hard breaking heel toe is the only way to get it in because you have to rev match to get it in gear in 1st at higher rpms, very helpful on auto x ;)

[Gas-n-Grease]

i use the method daily. dont see why you shouldnt. i see more purpose than to "show off".

[hjkim483]

Originally posted by S|Lv3rBu||et
No, 'cause you have a choise between the 'large' or 'small' gas pedal.

Buying the gas pedal in large would be better for heel toe right? Also, when they say these are adjustible, can you make hte brake nad gas pedal be level with each other?

I really like those pedals....

[shrumdude]

Originally posted by hjkim483
Buying the gas pedal in large would be better for heel toe right? Also, when they say these are adjustible, can you make hte brake nad gas pedal be level with each other?

I really like those pedals....

You can adjust how close the pedals are to each other (horizontally). The little part on the bottom right of the brake and the bottom left of the accelerator move side to side a little bit.

[Zensoku]

Heel toe is beneficial for daily driving. It reduces wear on your tranny. My buddys transfer case got busted because he didn't heel toe. Sure he has 400whp but still.

[SuuPaSeDan]

try practicing with bare feet

[Superstuddc27]

Originally posted by Illusive
try sitting a little bit on your left hip, not so much that your uncomfortable, but enough so that you dont have to twist your knee/ankle that much untill you get the flexibility & coordination down.

I found the gt-s pedals a bit more difficult to heel toe (at first) due to the gas pedal height not being the same height as the brake pedal.

also if you ever need to use a 1st gear turn and have to gear down under hard breaking heel toe is the only way to get it in because you have to rev match to get it in gear in 1st at higher rpms, very helpful on auto x ;)

yep... the gas pedal is lower so it's harder. When i first did it, i had to like actually PRESS on the gas pedal if i need it to go up to like, 4k. But in daily driving, i just shift to the gear that i should be in when i take the turn, and then just rev match by blipping the throttle while taking the turn.

[ZBoyce]

Heel toeing isn't really needed in daily driving, i guess you could argue it helps the tranny last, a little, mostly its just for taking turns at top speeds and blasting out of an apex or 30.

i think its plain retarded to rag on some one for learning with daily driving, would you prefer he take it to the track, do it in front of you, mess up and block your smart ass from the best line?

[alphasubzero949]

Originally posted by My Sixth Gear
why are heel toe shifting for.. kinda pointless for daily driving

To be mad fast in teh touge yo.

[TaeMachine]

Originally posted by ZBoyce


i think its plain retarded to rag on some one for learning with daily driving, would you prefer he take it to the track, do it in front of you, mess up and block your smart ass from the best line?
yes.

[dmaxd03]

to make things easier its more of a heel ball shift. Sliding your foot up on the brake makes it much easier to get your heel onto the gas. Or with big/wide feet, i do the lazy big toe little toe down shift. Press the brake with your big toe andand blip with the pinky toe side. I do it just to put less ware on my syncros ( but that requires a stop in neutral on the way). In all pretty easy and not as cool as it sounds.

[marc]

Originally posted by andrews
your just lame

who's the lame one who doesn't know the difference between you're and your?

[prometheum]

Originally posted by My Sixth Gear
why are heel toe shifting for.. kinda pointless for daily driving 'cause thats all we do arround here....daily driving

[aerospike2002]

Originally posted by OneCrAzYAkAbInE
makes you look cool...haha..how can anyone see you do it

nowhere in my sentence do i see the word "look". check.

[switchlanez]

Originally posted by aerospike2002
Heel-toe shifting is for circuit comp. or drifting. Not for daily driving unless you're just a moron and think it makes you cool to do that all the way during your morning commute :wtf:

i'll admit i do it in my daily driving, not only for practical reasons, but mainly for the enjoyment of driving my celica. i never intend to autox my daily driver since it's my only car, so i guess i won't be "up there" with all the guys who take it to the track who are just too cool. my mods are modest, after all.

i'll continue doing it in the morning commute as the geek, and not the cool guy, that i am, thank u very much. (and can't wait til i get those trd sways!!)

[Tuppuguy]

I rarely ever downshift, but those few instances when I do, i acutally dont use heal toe, but instead toe toe. haha. I'm serious! Anyone else use toe toe?

[Bi-Mon-Sci-Fi-Con]

Originally posted by Tuppuguy
I rarely ever downshift, but those few instances when I do, i acutally dont use heal toe, but instead toe toe. haha. I'm serious! Anyone else use toe toe?

When I "heel/toe" I keep the ball of my foot(big toe) on the brake and the other end where my pinkie toe is on the gas. This is also a very common way of heel/toeing.

[jetboy]

Originally posted by Bi-Mon-Sci-Fi-Con
When I "heel/toe" I keep the ball of my foot(big toe) on the brake and the other end where my pinkie toe is on the gas. This is also a very common way of heel/toeing.


Yup, thats how i do it. Simple roll of the foot sideways for a blip of the throttle.

[Tuppuguy]

haha, YES! i knew i was't the only one! Its just eaiser then heel toe becuase you dont need to mash on the brake.

[switchlanez]

i've gotten comfortable using "side of foot"/toe. its not quite heel/toe and not quite little toe/big toe, but more in between.