Prelude Vs Celica?

[dx316gol]

Who would win, 2002 celica or 1998 prelude?

[Britai 7018]

Celica, I think in every category. Assuming its a GT-S. It goes faster in a straight line, both 0-60 and 1/4 mile. Its lighter weight, superior chassis and better handling give it the edge in road courses and skidpads.

[Hepnotic]

Well the prelude sh is very close in acceleration capabilities to the gt-s. I think with the 2002's rev limiter, that the sh might be a tad quicker in the 1/4 mile.

I think the celica definately has better handling, and in my opinion, looks better.

[GTS LAID]

sh is SLOWER than the regular prelude.. it adds weight of 65 lbs...

[Slant]

I would also imagine that the ATTS causes the SH to lose a bit more power to the wheels.

[02CeLiCaGrL]

prelude....

[ImSoNastie]

i personaly was in a 2001 lude and we raced a gts...the lude has an intake, celica was a 2000 and stock. celica pulls about a car on the lude stock for stock.

[HOMEP666]

Today I raced a 1998 prelude in my 02 GT. Guess what, I won twice actually. I was surprised that I actually won, I mean it was my first time on the quarter mile. I guess it was his too. Therefore celica gt-s and a prelude with the right drivers would be a close match.

[RiCeY GtS]

this should be under "racing stories" :monkey:

[Slant]

Originally posted by RiCeY GtS
this should be under "racing stories" :monkey:

Thank you, Mr. I've been member for 1 month.
I've seen your other posts. Please if you can't say anything informative, keep it to yourself.

[eDriXxxX]

Originally posted by HOMEP666
Today I raced a 1998 prelude in my 02 GT. Guess what, I won twice actually. I was surprised that I actually won, I mean it was my first time on the quarter mile. I guess it was his too. Therefore celica gt-s and a prelude with the right drivers would be a close match.

If you won in the GT twice, why would it be a close match between a gts and a prelude? wouldnt it be a given that the gts would win?

[HOMEP666]

That is right. But given a better driver for the prelude things might been different.

[Bravo]

the only different between the regular prelude and SH... is that the SH has a body kit. That's it. Everything else is the same.

[Slant]

Originally posted by Bravo
the only different between the regular prelude and SH... is that the SH has a body kit. That's it. Everything else is the same.

Wrong. Go back to top and read the posts again.

[celicagts6spd]

my friend harry owned a '96 supra with 500hp and 6 speed.. he was the best racer in town.. he ghad a body kit, intake, exhaust, anything, he has it. well, he also has a nice interior.. unfortunately, he was a dumbass not buying a radar and got caught as a minor going 130mph and now he can't drive for 5 years and his car was sold by his parents.

[Brian00GTS]

Originally posted by celicagts6spd
my friend harry owned a '96 supra with 500hp and 6 speed.. he was the best racer in town.. he ghad a body kit, intake, exhaust, anything, he has it. well, he also has a nice interior.. unfortunately, he was a dumbass not buying a radar and got caught as a minor going 130mph and now he can't drive for 5 years and his car was sold by his parents.

Score: -1, Offtopic :)

Seriously though, that's gotta suck.

[loudceli]

Be a driver's race considering the rev limit on a 02 Celica. With my 00 GT-s I would pull my friends Prelude(base model) everytime by around a car or two(Stock vs. Stock).

[TypeSzH]

Bad drivers all around. I'm pretty sure the lude SH can hang or even beat the GT-S. I raced my friends 01 SH vs my RSX-S. He had a like a foot or more on me on the first run. Second run i was ahead of him don't know how much but not very. It wasn't a long run, so a longer strip might be different. Assuming the RSX-S and the Gt-S accel is similiar(using term loosely) the lude is just about the same. Probably GT-S, RSX-S, Lude power is VERY close.

[ahson]

i'll say DRIVER RACE!

[TRDGTS026spd]

at the racing story forum .. i talk about my race with my 02 GTS against a lude SH... he didnt know how to drive very well... ive also raced a base prelude owned by my friend james and beat him twice with a 2-3 car lead..... to the dude with the RSX-S... you should be able to beat him... trust me.... ive seen stock RSX-S's destroy ludes

[Edison_Chen]

lude

[Brian00GTS]

Differences between base Prelude and SH from Prelude site:

"Well there are a few things. The SH has painted lower body moldings, the base ones are black. The SH has no third brake light in the rear window and a standard spoiler. It also has courtesy lights in the door which the base does not have. Different rims, oil filter location is different, cams are different, exhaust and header is different, the shocks are a bit different and it has the ATTS system. Also the SH is not avaiable with an automatic tranny and the 8th digit of an SH model should be 5 and it`s 4 for a base model. I think that is about everything."

Minor enhancements boosted their power from 195hp(base) to 200hp(SH)(Source: Honda). Now let's compare the weights and horsepwer.

Celica GT-S: 2500lbs, 180hp
Prelude(both base and SH): 3042lbs, 200hp

Now everyone that says the Prelude would win, take a look at the numbers. Unless the Celica driver can't drive, this is a no-brainer. Celica wins. :applaud:

[TypeSzH]

The Preludes got torque. I have a car that is 1000000000HP but 1lb of torque. A fukin VW TDI probably will own it. Its a close race between the lude and GT-s

[aChAnKfRoMFL]

Just this past weekend i raced a regular prelude with intake, exaughst, and header. I had a GTS 02 with Aem Intake, but the intake was a aem gt. My first time street racing with a group (this one kid even had to tell me to straighten my wheels b4 i killed a couple kids =P) Well this is how it went he oinly beat me by a hood and i had my windows down and started to swerve like crazy lol. Forgot to put em up.

So i say the celica has the advantage im pretty positive i would have beaten this kid if i had my window up and didnt swerve. Im sure this kid is a better driver hes been to the races alot and i just leanred how to drive a stick like a month ago.

Ohh btw is there any loss of hp if i had a gt intake, other than a gts intake?

[Zero0ne GTS]

i have a 2002 gts and ive raced my friends base with intake headers exhaust cam gears and vtech controller... he took me on launch but i made up for it landing lift in second and third and took him by about half a car... hes not the best driver but hes not bad hes decent actually... so maybe a better driver would have won but stock on stock i think the gts has the advantage

[CelicaNamja79]

My GT smoked SS preludes... and hang with 5spd regular preludes.. go figure SH is heavier and slower due to ATTC tech... also it depends on the mods and driver... stock to stock.. i give it up to GT-S no doubt

[TypeSzH]

The ATTS doesn't make that much of a difference. AchankfromFL why does it matter your windows were down? Your not goin 170 mph. Still a drivers race. If it is a GT i would say Prelude

[Brian00GTS]

Originally posted by TypeSzH
The Preludes got torque. I have a car that is 1000000000HP but 1lb of torque. A fukin VW TDI probably will own it. Its a close race between the lude and GT-s

I've driven a new Prelude. It's not as fast as a 2000 or 2001 GT-S. As far as the 2002's, I'm not sure, I haven't driven one and people say the rev limiter's a bitch. Preludes have 156 lb-ft at 5250rpm, and Celicas have 130 lb-ft at 6800. Torque will make a little difference, but not enough to make a stock Prelude SH as fast as a 00-01 stock Celica GT-S. Numbers don't lie.

However, like I said several posts up, it can be decided by the skill of the driver, but with drivers equal, GT-S wins.

[TypeSzH]

".... Numbers don't lie.
However, like I said several posts up, it can be decided by the skill of the driver, but with drivers equal, GT-S wins."

If this is true than the RSX-S should beat the GT-S. Numbers don't lie right?

[00 LSM GTS]

RSX-S - 200hp, 2767lbs = 13.835lbs/hp
Celica Gt-S - 180hp, 2500lbs = 13.888lbs/hp

no's look pretty even to me

[TypeSzH]

wow u went to the third decimal place. However HP is not the only thing. Sorry by numbers the RSX-S beats the Celica GT-S. I'm just assuming wut Brian00GTS is saying, "Numbers don't lie."

I think too close to call Prelude, Gt-S and RSX-S

[3.2 TL]

which of the three ( prelude, celica gts, rsx-s ) would win in autocrossing? asuming the drivers are all equal?

[Brian00GTS]

Originally posted by TypeSzH
wow u went to the third decimal place. However HP is not the only thing. Sorry by numbers the RSX-S beats the Celica GT-S. I'm just assuming wut Brian00GTS is saying, "Numbers don't lie."

I think too close to call Prelude, Gt-S and RSX-S

I'm not trying to start a flame war with you SzH :) I would say that the RSX Type S and the Celica GT-S are about even. Driver's race all the way. With power ratings that close, I'm sure gearing would have something to do also. With the Prelude vs. RSX-S, would that be close? 200hp 2767lbs(RSX-S), 200hp 3042lbs(Prelude). I've never seen the two race, but looking at this, I would guess RSX-S.

[xav3x]

don't forget WHP.. honda cars loose more hp thru the tranny.. and ha.. i dont' have a moonroof .. so i'm even lighter! wooo hooo

[TypeSzH]

The better driver will win.

[Modern Angel]

Originally posted by TypeSzH
The better driver will win.

Yup..

I've owned a 2001 GT which I sold for a '97 Prelude Type SH. The Prelude and the Celica are very close.. very evenly matched cars but I'll give the nod to the 2000-01 GT-S in a drag-type race all other thing being equal...

That being said... if you take it to a road course I would have to give it to the Type SH.. until you drive one or ride with somone who knows how to... you can't say anything about it.. ATTS works, period. I can and have taken offramps posted at 20 mph at 80+ with complete confidence in my car - no tire squealing, no body roll.. nothing. The car just sucks up curves and asks for more.

The Type SH weighs about 50lbs more than the base.. in reality that's not much.. hell the dude you're racing could have a fat a$$ and weigh 50lbs more than you. I'll take that hit for the benefit of the ATTS system.

Looks, of course, are entirely subjective but in my opinion the Prelude is much classier and timeless looking than the Celica.. not that I don't think the Celica doesn't look awesome as well.. it's just trendier..

[yakkosmurf]

If you're talking drag racing, both cars are capable of running 14.9 in stock trim. It will come down to the driver.

[MSR27]

All driver, Ive beaten my teamates with Preludes with I/H/E.

[CelicaNamja79]

Driver's race.

[Scott Janssen]

What is all this talk about the 2002 rev limiter? Is it different from the 2001 and the 2000?

[Brian00GTS]

Yes, the 2000-early 2001 rev limiter was at 8300 I believe, and the late 2001 and 2002's were put down to 7800 or so.