Turbo-Performance told me the Kit is ready for realease! [Archive]

BRAK

04-10-2002, 10:06 AM

Yes the kit is just waiting for the piping to be plated it is done and works
fine easy install and effective---------- Original Message ---------------------
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From: <amnbrak@bellsouth.net>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:13:55 -0500

>Yes i heard on www.newcelica.org that you were going to release to the public
the new turbo setup on the celica at the SEMA show in april .... is this
true??!!!
>ty
>nick

From the look of this letter , they have made a RELIABLE .. SAFE setup for us. He even sounded Very confident over the phone ... it will be for release in 1 week .... starting at the SEMA show:D

2001SilverGTS

04-10-2002, 10:08 AM

Did he give you any specifics? Price?

and of course

HOW MUCH BOOST???

Keyshawn

04-10-2002, 10:21 AM

Good news for GT guys. Turbo Performance's (818-994-7087) turbocharged Celica that they will display at the SEMA International Auto Salon in Long Beach, CA (Apr. 19-21) WILL BE A GT. I excited about that, but I'm disappointed that THEY WILL NOT have a turbo'ed GT-S at the show. Here's a few preliminary pics, courtesy Elitemotion from Team Unison: http://www.elitemotion.com/tempstuff/Picture-113.jpg

http://www.elitemotion.com/tempstuff/Picture-115.jpg

Sirk_2

04-10-2002, 10:35 AM

Its about damn time... I guess i won't be needing to buy that header

gts24

04-10-2002, 10:48 AM

Ok, in light of all this. I would like to ask this question.

How much horsepower can our drivetrain handle? RELIABLY?

I am talking daily driver here. I have a GT-S. It is my daily driver. If I can run 230 whp vs the claims of 350-400 and have a safe daily driver I will be more than happy.

byebyebaby

04-10-2002, 10:54 AM

I am getting excited :D:D:D

Keyshawn

04-10-2002, 11:02 AM

Well, according to Bob at Turbo Performance, a stock-internal n/a engine with a low/moderate boost turbo will last about 50,000mi. Jay at World Racing says it might last even less than 50k.

Originally posted by gts24
Ok, in light of all this. I would like to ask this question.

How much horsepower can our drivetrain handle? RELIABLY?

I am talking daily driver here. I have a GT-S. It is my daily driver. If I can run 230 whp vs the claims of 350-400 and have a safe daily driver I will be more than happy.

ringthree

04-10-2002, 11:12 AM

Ok keyshawn, heres a better question. How do you improve the life of the engine? Pistons, rods, whatelse...

I'm going up to EIP next weekend to take a peak at their custom turbo GT-S. I will try to get all the specs. Any questions you want me to ask? They are doing all the work including changing the pistons with custom ones.

Keyshawn

04-10-2002, 11:21 AM

Awesome, ringthree! Let us know what you find out from EIP. Pretty much ask them all the questions you just asked me. They'll have the most accurate possible answers to those questions, since they are getting FIRST HAND knowledge about the limits of the 2zz themselves.

Originally posted by ringthree
Ok keyshawn, heres a better question. How do you improve the life of the engine? Pistons, rods, whatelse...

I'm going up to EIP next weekend to take a peak at their custom turbo GT-S. I will try to get all the specs. Any questions you want me to ask? They are doing all the work including changing the pistons with custom ones.

gts24

04-10-2002, 11:32 AM

Also, I realize that building up the engine internals will help the engine.

I'm talking specifically about the transmission and all the connections that " go fast " to get power to the wheels. How well is this stuff gonna hold up.......

Keyshawn

04-10-2002, 11:39 AM

gts24,
I don't think anyone really knows, since no one has done it yet. There are people that say that our tranny is weak, and wouldn't be able to hold that much power and stay reliable, but in the end, we'll haveta be the guinea pigs and find that out for ourselves if we want real answers. That sucks, but it's our only choice.

gts24

04-10-2002, 11:46 AM

I am only asking because I am going all motor anyways. and yes I will definitely be one of the first to go higher comp and an n/a buildup. I dont' mind. It will be fun .. :D

Keyshawn

04-10-2002, 11:58 AM

Good luck, gts24! I could be there with you as far as going n/a. I'm still uncommitted as to whether to go n/a or turbo. I'm gonna wait until others run with Turbo Performance's turbo, and wait to see how much Blitz's SC will really cost. My options are open. One thing I might buy THIS WEEK, however, is Quaife's LSD.

gts24

04-10-2002, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by Keyshawn
Good luck, gts24! I could be there with you as far as going n/a. I'm still uncommitted as to whether to go n/a or turbo. I'm gonna wait until others run with Turbo Performance's turbo, and wait to see how much Blitz's SC will really cost. My options are open. One thing I might buy THIS WEEK, however, is Quaife's LSD.

Hey man, right there with you. I've already emailed them a few times to get total cost with shipping. But they told me to just call customer service. So that's what I am gonna do, i'll email you as soon as I know a total cost to get it shipped. How much you guestimating the install for this thing is gunna cost?

EDIT: i'm talking about the quaife LSD.

selika2000

04-10-2002, 12:10 PM

Anyone know the price?

Pribilof

04-10-2002, 12:12 PM

I've heard that the cost of installing a LSD is tha same as installing a clutch, flywheel, and LSD at the same time. Since you have to take all the same things apart. Prices I've heard ~$600

Keyshawn

04-10-2002, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by gts24

Hey man, right there with you. I've already emailed them a few times to get total cost with shipping. But they told me to just call customer service. So that's what I am gonna do, i'll email you as soon as I know a total cost to get it shipped. How much you guestimating the install for this thing is gunna cost?

EDIT: i'm talking about the quaife LSD.

I've heard about $600 for install, but I haven't researched it thoroughly yet.

X-EVIL-X

04-10-2002, 01:28 PM

well i just got off the phone with him and he said his test car is passing 12000 miles and its doing good...
he said price with intercooler is 3200 or somthing and 70 hp increase at 5psi for the gts engine. he seemed really nice and people should call and talk to him.
he said he's getting pics up on sat and i told him he would sell these like crazy, hehe.
he said toyota us coming out with low compession pistons too.

CarbonB2000GT

04-10-2002, 04:06 PM

Is there any specs for the GT?

--Josh

ProToolsKid

04-10-2002, 04:26 PM

I heard the Pistons and rods on the GT were weak as $h!t what do you think the cost of upgrading these and reinforcing the headgasket and other stuff would be. What would really need to be done to make the motor last longer?

ToyoGT

04-10-2002, 07:05 PM

man i can't believe all this....only 3200 with the intercooler? i am in!!!!!!! :D

Keyshawn

04-10-2002, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by ToyoGT
man i can't believe all this....only 3200 with the intercooler? i am in!!!!!!! :D

I went to their shop and talked to Bob yesterday. The price is more like 3500. Still pretty good, though.

BRAK

04-10-2002, 07:32 PM

[qute]I went to their shop and talked to Bob yesterday. The price is more like 3500. Still pretty good, though.[/quote]

Damn SKippy!!
OMG ANOTHER 70+.... maybe 90+ HP .
I FRICKIN CANT WAIT to feel that lift.

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 1 through 5800 rpm .
LIFT-->> BRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
maybe a pssst in there too lol (Blow off valve)

t2000gts

04-10-2002, 07:41 PM

don't these guys also have engine internals? i remember seeing pistons, valves, rods, etc. on their site....i thought that they had the turbo working on a GT-S too...

chameleon

04-10-2002, 08:32 PM

X-EVIL-X, would you happen to know if they were reffering to 70hp to the wheels or at the crank? Either way, it sounds pretty interesting. I am very interested.

Ntence99

04-10-2002, 09:21 PM

Alright!!!!!about time someone is getting somewhere...About the weak tranny ...I had to replace my tranny after only 6000 miles becouse of syncros..now im at 1500 and when i shift hard it wantds to gring in second(sometimes)..Of course this is how it all started the first time.Im all down to turbo charge my Gts but my car still is a daily driver.Im paranoid of blowin this high compression engine!BUT>>>>>>>>>>that s just a chance ill have to take but only if turbo performance can promise a lil more than 50000 miles.ive put 15000 on in 6 months.Well u can do the math

X-EVIL-X

04-10-2002, 11:39 PM

he said 70 hp to the wheels...
he said he wasn't sure how long the motor would last without lowering the compression but he said something about this person with a gsr with his turbo.
its a 94 and he's had the turbo on it for a long time without lowering the compression and its doing fine.

racinjason

04-11-2002, 08:26 AM

You don't need to replace the tranny because of blown syncros. Just replace the syncros. So much misinformation in this thread.

It's great that TP is releasing a kit. But we need to get some solid facts. Enough of this "I heard", "He said", "I think" crap. We will not know how long these motors and trannys will last until we start installing them and using them. Bottom line is the motors and trannies will probably last as long or maybe longer than a Civic or Integra with a bolt on kit. Which isn't nearly as long as a stock Civic or Integra.

Keyshawn

04-11-2002, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by racinjason
It's great that TP is releasing a kit. But we need to get some solid facts. Enough of this "I heard", "He said", "I think" crap. We will not know how long these motors and trannys will last until we start installing them and using them. Bottom line is the motors and trannies will probably last as long or maybe longer than a Civic or Integra with a bolt on kit. Which isn't nearly as long as a stock Civic or Integra.

Very true.

F22-Raptor

04-11-2002, 08:51 AM

Toyota doesn't make crap guys.....This talk about the motor only going 50k is just that bullcrap. Think about it. I have seen Supras with turbos on them with over 200k with no engine rebuilds... Yes turbo/superchargers are harder on your engine..I think if you take it easy not trying to run 20 psi on your turbo and act sensibly with it you will have no prob getting 100-150k out of these engines...

Keyshawn

04-11-2002, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by F22-Raptor
Toyota doesn't make crap guys.....This talk about the motor only going 50k is just that bullcrap. Think about it. I have seen Supras with turbos on them with over 200k with no engine rebuilds...

Well, I'd love that to be true about our cars, too, but Supra's have turbocharged engines from the factory, while ours were meant to be n/a, so turbocharging will put our engines through alot more stress than what it was designed for. Also, the Supra 's 2JZ is legendary for being one of the strongest engines ever made, so I don't think we can really compare it to us.

BoyRacer

04-11-2002, 09:16 AM

sounds like premature ejaculation. its nice to be excited, but never count your chickens before they hatch.

F22-Raptor

04-11-2002, 09:30 AM

Actually I was talking about the 7m-gte motors. And yes they were turbocharged from Toyota, but not to the extremes I have seen people do it. There is a 12 stage kit I have seen done to take it from 230 hp in stock turbo form to 458 hp. Then it lasted another 100k on top of that..Just remember that you can't use the same rules of upkeep as a regular car. You change your oil every 3-5k and that is it, then yes it will only last you 50k. Most toyota engines are bulletproof in most regards.

t2000gts

04-11-2002, 09:37 AM

lemme repeat my question, wasn't this the kit that had all the internals, including new pistons? wouldn't that mean lower compression = more power AND more reliable?

so where are all these things about boosting on 11.5:1 coming up from?

Keyshawn

04-11-2002, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by t2000gts
lemme repeat my question, wasn't this the kit that had all the internals, including new pistons? wouldn't that mean lower compression = more power AND more reliable?

No, this isn't that kit.

RiCeY GtS

04-11-2002, 10:46 AM

gool :monkey:

cool2miketlu

04-11-2002, 10:55 AM

Hay if this turbo go after 50,000 miles, what is involved in rebuilding the engine up? Just wondering the cost factor before buying this turbo... I know labor varies from shop to shop just give a high estimate

Pribilof

04-11-2002, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by racinjason
You don't need to replace the tranny because of blown syncros. Just replace the syncros. So much misinformation in this thread.

This is true. However, from reading about the experiences of others on this board with tranny problems that were fixed by Toyota, it seems that Toyota goes ahead and replaces the entire tranny on 00 and 01 Celicas so they have the wider shift gates of the 02 models. I guess they feel this protects them from another misshift. If my 2nd gear syncro ever goes out, I'm just going to go to my mechanic and have him replace just the syncro. Screw the wider gates.

cool2miketlu

04-12-2002, 04:48 PM

anyone has any answer as what parts possibly need to replace after 50,000 miles? I wanted to boost but $3000 on 50,000 miles plus whatever cost to rebuild engine... thats like $3+ for every 50 miles...

Ntence99

04-14-2002, 09:19 PM

yeah ,toyota told m ethere was no way in hell that they were eeven play with bebuilding the tranny...but all this talk about wider gates...im one of those 2002 celi owners with the lowered rev lim..and now i guess i have wider gates..n e one with info about getting something to higher my rev lim..and maybey an older tranny.i met a guy with a 200 callica all he had was an intake and he was running well with me.the only thing is he claims that he has had his 150 mph wile mine tops out about 137..

Spooner

04-17-2002, 08:44 PM

My celica is a 2000 GT-S I have had the dealer ship in my trans many of times and have had them replaces mahor parts in it 3 times . They have never once offered me a 2002 trans or even said anything like they would be willing to do that . From the day I frist bought my car when I shift hard from first to second if I didnt pull the shifter to the right when I shifted it would pull down on the left side of second gear on the shifting pattern and get stuck there and the trans would be in nuetral . They tried everything to fix it . Never tried a new trans though. finally they went in and changed everything to do with second gear and now as of like 3 months ago it has stopped . Now I wonder if they put parts in from a 2002 trans so I have 1 wide gate and the rest normal . The trans is still sloppy I am getting sick of driving a Corrola while they work on my car . But as far as the last comment my 2000 tops at 137mph and the only way to go faster really is more HP , down hill , or 200mph wind at my back .
Spooner

GTS60n5

04-19-2002, 10:11 PM

Spooner, a week and a half after I bought my 2000 GTS 6 speed I pushed her to 145 MPH. That was completely stock, so I have no idea what she tops out at now. I have the complete Sportivo suspension with rear strut brace, TRD exhaust and air filter. I've got an Injen Racing Division CAI and shortshifter on the way so im hoping that should shave considerable time of my 1/4 as well as increase the top end some. As far as going slapping a turbo on, I'm a bit apprehensive. I'm on my third engine now and I really doubt the Midwest Regional Service Manager wants to hear another complaint from me, hence I really don't want to be a guinea pig...you guys tell me how the turbo works out and by the time I gradute college I will have some more money to pour into my baby and turn some decent 1/4s.

Tony01Gts

04-21-2002, 06:58 PM

Why did you go through three engines? The car is electronically limited to 149 mph just so you know...

Tony01Gts

04-21-2002, 06:58 PM

What is this that I heard that Turbo Performance was not at SEMA?

David Draper

04-22-2002, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by Tony01Gts
What is this that I heard that Turbo Performance was not at SEMA?

Didn't see them there. Neither did Edrick, and he was there Sat and Sun looking....

I mean, they may have been there, but I don't think they had a car there....

Keyshawn

04-22-2002, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by David Draper

Didn't see them there. Neither did Edrick, and he was there Sat and Sun looking....

I mean, they may have been there, but I don't think they had a car there....

I also looked. They didn't make it to the show.

David Draper

04-23-2002, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by Keyshawn

I also looked. They didn't make it to the show.

Anyone else think it's strange that after waiting to sell the kit for two months because their volunteers wanted to show the cars at SEMA, that none of the test cars showed up? :wtf:

Pribilof

04-23-2002, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by David Draper

Anyone else think it's strange that after waiting to sell the kit for two months because their volunteers wanted to show the cars at SEMA, that none of the test cars showed up? :wtf:

yes

Keyshawn

04-23-2002, 03:16 PM

RedNOSceli

04-24-2002, 04:12 AM

lol, what a surprize....Two turbo'd celica didnt show up to sell there kit....

Tony01Gts

04-24-2002, 04:37 AM

SOmebody call em!

RedTrd

04-29-2002, 08:39 AM

Spoke to Bill already and the turbo is available for GT didn't ask for the GTS and its a Garret T3-T4 turbo comes with everything, downpiping , intercooler, blow-off valve etc... safe at 6psi not more without internal mods , and if u wanna do a group buy i can place the ordered for 4 or more and he can do it less than $3000 so IM me anytime at Paulie823, if anyone is from nyc, definitly be interested......

Keyshawn

04-29-2002, 08:49 AM

RedTRD,
Great job! Wow! Looks like it's a go for you GT owners. Can't wait to see some of you guys with this kit.

ArchangelX

04-29-2002, 09:01 AM

Nothing like getting your azz handed to you by a GT. :D

ceLL-ILL-cA

04-29-2002, 03:24 PM

t3/t4??? i thought we didnt have enough room for that size turbo down there?

valkyrie

04-29-2002, 08:29 PM

so how is this story ended?
happy ending or another mistery?

Toaster

04-30-2002, 12:37 AM

so no turbo for the GT-S???

Keyshawn

04-30-2002, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by Toaster
so no turbo for the GT-S???

No. I called today, and they said that their GT kit is ready now, but that they're waiting for a GT-S owner to come in to get a prototype made for that model.

RedTrd

04-30-2002, 05:28 AM

I spoke to them again and they already have a GT one ready and im ordering it so i'll let u know how it turns out Its a T3 turbo or u have an option of a T4 hybrid but either or im still getting it so i'll let u know guys remember "group buys are cheaper" if anyone is interested , i promise its a happy ending ..........

Tony01Gts

04-30-2002, 09:16 AM

I thought they already had this kit ready for production and already had it on a GT-S.... looks like we have been majorly bullsh*tted!

Ntence99

04-30-2002, 07:33 PM

NOT AGAIN!!!! oh well ,I was waiting for the xs kit n e wayz:fawk:

MDboyz

05-09-2002, 01:10 AM

Hmm.. last about 50,000k.. .. umm I don't think I'm ready for this yet. I put on 32,000k for only 1 yr and 5 months...

:)

JOHNBLAZIN

05-09-2002, 02:41 PM

just bit n pieces need to be replaced at that time is what im hearing............ dunno tho i hear alot of things

atehrani

05-12-2002, 12:02 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tony01Gts
...The car is electronically limited to 149 mph just so you know.../QUOTE]

Actually most of the Celica's are drag limited, meaning the friction caused by the air is enough to limit the vehicles top speed. However, I think with the 2002, they have an electronic one that kicks in at 139mph.