Buying Tein SS-P's, EDFC also?

[AZceliGirl]

Hey guys, I'm buying my dampers this week and I like how I can adjust everything from inside the car with the EDFC. I'm just not sure that I really want it or not. What do you guys think? Should I get it or not? I prolly need to buy it this week.

Kristin

[PoweredbyRICE]

mind as well..it controls the soft/stiffness factor of the ride...i have it..luv it..looks good too:)

[sheizen]

if you can afford it then get it. it gets useless if you dont go to the track.

[AZceliGirl]

mind as well..it controls the soft/stiffness factor of the ride...i have it..luv it..looks good too:)
Well, I like the fact that it makes it easy to control the soft/stiffness of the ride. I do not go to the track, so would this really benefit me or would it be easy enough to just adjust from outside the car? The roads around here aren't too bad, but do get kinda bumpy in places. I just don't wanna spend $350 if I don't need to.

--Kristin

[kimGT]

it sounds like Tein Basics would be better for you. they're height adjustable, non-dampening adjustable (but set at a good dampening level from factory) and they're much cheaper than the other kits.

[AZceliGirl]

it sounds like Tein Basics would be better for you. they're height adjustable, non-dampening adjustable (but set at a good dampening level from factory) and they're much cheaper than the other kits.
Hmmm, I don't understand what the difference is between the Basics and the SS-P's. Do they have the same drops?

[gotcelica]

With the basics you can't adjust the stiffness, but with the ss-p's you can. If your car is just going to be a daily and you're not going to do any racing then you should just get the basics because most likely if you get the ss-p's you will keep it on the first setting, just because it's more of a comfortable ride for everyday driving. If you need a set of teins let me know because my neighbor owns wotm.com

[AZceliGirl]

With the basics you can't adjust the stiffness, but with the ss-p's you can. If your car is just going to be a daily and you're not going to do any racing then you should just get the basics because most likely if you get the ss-p's you will keep it on the first setting, just because it's more of a comfortable ride for everyday driving. If you need a set of teins let me know because my neighbor owns wotm.com
Can you find out how much he'd do the Tein Basics and the Tein SS-P's for? I'm definitely interested. I'm still not sure if I should do the SS-P's or not. So the only difference is ride stiffness? It is just for daily driving - so you don't think I need to get the Tein SS-P's? I thought those were better because of the pillowmount. Well, just let me know :)

Kristin

[Manny_TXtreme]

indeed..i too would like to know some prices for 3 sets as i have 2 buddies and myself looking for Teins. i've been debating basics vs ss-p for a while now.

[gotcelica]

Here are the prices: Tein basics are $785 and the Tein SS's are $1085. Let me know if you guys are interested.
Mike

[AZceliGirl]

Here are the prices: Tein basics are $785 and the Tein SS's are $1085. Let me know if you guys are interested.
MikeSweet, could I pick them up? I'm in Chandler all the time. I'll be paying cash. I'm just not sure yet if I should do the Tein Basics or SS's. The SS's he has, are they with pillowmount or is there a different price on those?

Kristin

[AZceliGirl]

Here are the prices: Tein basics are $785 and the Tein SS's are $1085. Let me know if you guys are interested.
Mike It looks like the SS-P's have more of a drop - so I'm kinda leaning towards those. Let me research it a bit more and I'll let you know. I've got the case, so I'd rather pay to get the look I'm going for. I'm tired right now so I'm going to bed.

Kristin

[excel_ica]

i'm planning on gettin' a set too for everyday. If i get the basic tein set, and run on 225/40/18 tires, will the ride be too soft or too stiff?

If i can save 300$, then i probably will. But i don't want to be disappoined either :monkey:

[gotcelica]

Sweet, could I pick them up? I'm in Chandler all the time. I'll be paying cash. I'm just not sure yet if I should do the Tein Basics or SS's. The SS's he has, are they with pillowmount or is there a different price on those?

Kristin

Sure, you can pick them up. The price that I gave you for the SS's are without the pillowball mounts, I think it is a $300 difference if you wanted the pillowball mounts with SS's. Also the height adjustment for the basics and SS's are the same it's about 1.9 in the front and about 2 for the back. If you're not going to be doing any adjustments I would just go with the tein basics. Let me know if you want to order them. He can have them here in 3 days.

-Mike

[gotcelica]

i'm planning on gettin' a set too for everyday. If i get the basic tein set, and run on 225/40/18 tires, will the ride be too soft or too stiff?

If i can save 300$, then i probably will. But i don't want to be disappoined either :monkey:

I don't think it will be too soft or too stiff. I think it will be just right for everyday driving.

-Mike

[CALIGTS]

ssp will be a direct replacement to the oem upper mount right?
ss wont come with the upper mount

[aZnTrD2k]

ssp will be a direct replacement to the oem upper mount right?
ss wont come with the upper mount

ssp has pillowball mounts so that you just swap out your suspension.

ss doesnt have the mounts so you use the stock mounts.

[AZceliGirl]

Sure, you can pick them up. The price that I gave you for the SS's are without the pillowball mounts, I think it is a $300 difference if you wanted the pillowball mounts with SS's. Also the height adjustment for the basics and SS's are the same it's about 1.9 in the front and about 2 for the back. If you're not going to be doing any adjustments I would just go with the tein basics. Let me know if you want to order them. He can have them here in 3 days.

-Mike
Well that's what I'm not sure of - I don't go to the track, and I just want suspension that won't bottom out, like the shocks/springs. With my current setup, it bottoms out in the front too easily. I think I'm going to get the Tein Basics - you live in AZ as well, do you think I would need the Tein SS's for our roads here or not? If not, I'd rather save the $$$ for something else for the car.

Let me know :)

Kristin

[AZceliGirl]

ssp has pillowball mounts so that you just swap out your suspension.

ss doesnt have the mounts so you use the stock mounts.
What are the benefits of having it come with the pillowball mounts? Just ease of installation or what?

[AZceliGirl]

I don't think it will be too soft or too stiff. I think it will be just right for everyday driving.

-Mike
When you guys say soft or stiff, are you referring to how much bounce there is?

[gotcelica]

Well that's what I'm not sure of - I don't go to the track, and I just want suspension that won't bottom out, like the shocks/springs. With my current setup, it bottoms out in the front too easily. I think I'm going to get the Tein Basics - you live in AZ as well, do you think I would need the Tein SS's for our roads here or not? If not, I'd rather save the $$$ for something else for the car.

Let me know :)

Kristin

The basics will be perfect for your daily driving and won't bottom out. As for the pillowball upper mounts, they just provide a better suspension setup, but you won't need them you can just use your stock ones. To answer your question about being "soft or stiff" think of the stock suspension as soft because it absorbs a lot of the bumps and if you have stiffer suspension you will feel more of the bumps in the road, but the tradeoff of stiff suspension is better handling. There is always a tradeoff for performance, if you want better handling your ride will be a little stiffer. Hope this helps.

[excel_ica]

Do the Basics fit my 2001 GTS?

Do these kits fit either model, or should i specify that i have a GTS???

[spidalegz_2002]

i vouch for the BASICS and SS-P's. I live here in az as well and if i know that some of these roads can get hairy, if you want to spend the money, get the ss's in the long run. it will be great since you can adjust if you happen to go out to the track later. i also would love to meet you at the meet this weekend, but i kinda have some houses to look for. go with the SS's and the EDFC ;)

[AZceliGirl]

i vouch for the BASICS and SS-P's. I live here in az as well and if i know that some of these roads can get hairy, if you want to spend the money, get the ss's in the long run. it will be great since you can adjust if you happen to go out to the track later. i also would love to meet you at the meet this weekend, but i kinda have some houses to look for. go with the SS's and the EDFC ;)awesome, thanks for the info. I probably won't go to the track, but I might, who knows LOL. Too bad u can't make it to the meet! So SS-P's and EDFC huh? ugh, decisions, decisions!

Kristin

[gotcelica]

Do the Basics fit my 2001 GTS?

Do these kits fit either model, or should i specify that i have a GTS???


They fit both the GT and GT-S

[Sylver1]

Hey, keep in mind that the EDFC only works on the SS-P's not on the SS's. I think the mounts also offer camber and caster adjustabillity, but I am not sure though. :)

[spidalegz_2002]

yes above. the SS's with pillowball upper mounts will use the edfc. so if you really want the adjustablity (i have used it on the track on my buddies car), get the pillowball upper mounted one.

yea i cant make it. i realized that we are going to be looking for my new house for me to live in. unless it falls through...

[lilcoop_69]

i got the basics off a guy here on the site almost brand new for 600shipped.... put those babies on when they got to my house and LOVE them..!!!!! i was going to get the c-one pillowball mounts, but im waitn since my camber isn't that bad..... i have them set at about 2" and the ride is still gr8 although sometimes i bottom out in the rear...... guess cuz im tuckin :naughty: ..... but i saw the ssp and efdc for a grand here on the site just to let you know..... very nice too...

[lilcoop_69]

here are some pics with my setup......
http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/11592at_the_rest_stop-med.jpg <--- before coilovers..... like a 4 wheel drive


http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/11592sittn_low-med.jpg <---- this is after..... NICE :thumbup:

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/11592teins-med.jpg
<-- rears
http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/11592fronts-med.jpg <---- fronts

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/11592tuckn-med.jpg<--- tuckn in the front yard... :bling:

[CALIGTS]

I ordered my tein SSP set up it will arrive this wednesday!! Cant wait to get it installed.

[Manny_TXtreme]

soo..how do u guys adjust the height after it is installed? was always curious about that.

[spidalegz_2002]

the height rings. you can lower or raise them by turning them then locking them.

[nokiaman]

I wonder if the ride is rough . thats what stoped me from getting Coilovers right now I have prokit springs with the Blue Shocks.

[spidalegz_2002]

the ride is immaculate when you set it to soft. it's rough when you put it more tight for better performance. i have the ground control coils, and they are pudy rough like when i had the Stechs

[AZceliGirl]

Huh, I think I'm just going to do the Basics...I don't care if the ride is kinda rough....I just don't want to bottom out.

[Manny_TXtreme]

So u can set the softness/hardness of Basics? Or is it a one time setting? I thought the Basics came pre-setted to factory settings for the Celica.

[lilcoop_69]

the ride with my basics is great... almost like stock, just a little stiffer, but that is what you can expect... you would be good with a nice strut and spring combo, but by the time you order those seperate, you could already have a full coilover setup that you can adjust and all.... my car rides gr8... i was worried at first too about ride quality, but now that i know.... i might have to go on and get some ssp's with efdc next time..

[AZceliGirl]

the ride with my basics is great... almost like stock, just a little stiffer, but that is what you can expect... you would be good with a nice strut and spring combo, but by the time you order those seperate, you could already have a full coilover setup that you can adjust and all.... my car rides gr8... i was worried at first too about ride quality, but now that i know.... i might have to go on and get some ssp's with efdc next time..There isn't a ride height difference between the basics and the ssp's, is there?

[Blue Bomber]

the ride with my basics is great... almost like stock, just a little stiffer, but that is what you can expect... you would be good with a nice strut and spring combo, but by the time you order those seperate, you could already have a full coilover setup that you can adjust and all.... my car rides gr8... i was worried at first too about ride quality, but now that i know.... i might have to go on and get some ssp's with efdc next time..There isn't a ride height difference between the basics and the ssp's, is there?
They're adjustable, but the Basics and SS' can go 1.61-2.20" front / .71-2.57" rear, and the SS-Ps can go 1.14-2.32" front / .94-2.99" rear. The adjustability is more for corner weighting than looks, though.

[lilcoop_69]

^^^ yup... with mine lowered like this.. the cornering is great.. steering isn't off either after i lowered it, but it shakes a little at about 80... i think i need to get my tires rebalanced...

[spidalegz_2002]

^^^ yup... with mine lowered like this.. the cornering is great.. steering isn't off either after i lowered it, but it shakes a little at about 80... i think i need to get my tires rebalanced...

you might just need an alignment on your camber

[AZceliGirl]

you might just need an alignment on your camber
Is Hotchkis the only ones that make camber sets? i ordered eibach but they're rear only...

--Kristin

[excel_ica]

Yeah seriously. I need a camber kit also. But i'm not willing to dish out 200$ for just the rear (Hotchkis).

Are the Eibach or Intrax camber kits any good. I mean they go for only 25$ or so.... :confused:

[gts_rosh]

lilcoop_69, those pics look great. Did you lower the teins down even more in the tuckin' pics on the grass? Cause the pic on the street looks a tad higher overall. Do you know if its more comfortable & doesn't bottom out in the rear when your riding a bit higher? I'm getting the basics in a month, and I just wanna be sure too.

[gotcelica]

Yeah seriously. I need a camber kit also. But i'm not willing to dish out 200$ for just the rear (Hotchkis).

Are the Eibach or Intrax camber kits any good. I mean they go for only 25$ or so.... :confused:

The only ones that will work are the Hotchkis ones, the Eibach ones won't work. I bought a set a long time ago and I didn't know which sets of bolts they replaced, so I called Eibach and they didn't know either, so they told me to send them back for a refund and I had to dish out $200 for the Hotchkis ones.

[lilcoop_69]

lilcoop_69, those pics look great. Did you lower the teins down even more in the tuckin' pics on the grass? Cause the pic on the street looks a tad higher overall. Do you know if its more comfortable & doesn't bottom out in the rear when your riding a bit higher? I'm getting the basics in a month, and I just wanna be sure too.

no i didn't lower them in the grass... i just pulled a little on the pavement... :D , but the height i have it at is gr8..... but when i went to fla for the weekend and had to back packed with stuff, i bottomed out a little... but I-10 is horrible.. other than that... its nice... the ride is excellent.. you won't regret getting them , but if you could get the ssp's... those are next on my hit list... ... oh.. keep them low.. i just have to adjust my camber a tad bit... in the back... the front is fine, im just tuckn a little to much in the rear :gap: