Someones selling XS turbo kit in the for sale forums??

[Redline]

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17291


Doesnt sound right to me. What do you guys think?

[silver-s]

I saw it on ebay. I called XS a couple of weeks ago, and they can sell the parts. The only parts they wouldn't sell were the intercooler pipeing, manifold, and other custom parts. XS has a person make these and XS won't release his name or phone#. The parts he is trying to sell sounds legit. The only problem is getting the custom parts. If i had the $ to buy them, i know a guy here in my town that can make the manifold and mandrel bend the intercooler pipes for me.
BTW, XS did stop selling the kit for the GT-S until they can move to a new building, or so they said.

[coOOlcelica]

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[X-EVIL-X]

Originally posted by silver-s

BTW, XS did stop selling the kit for the GT-S until they can move to a new building, or so they said.
xs NEVER started selling the kit

[XSPOWER]

Just so you guys know the truth, there all but three cars that are under our control that have the our turbo system in various stages. Each of these systems have seen over 10,000 miles of daily driving with stock engine internals. The kit was never released to the public and won't be until mid-late summer. That guy is just trying to sell his junk as our parts. Don't believe the hype.

It is true that we are moving and unfortunately this has put a big damper on our production plans for the Celica system and several other new turbo and intercooler systems. We will be moving from our current 5,000 square feet location in Fullerton, CA to an 18,750 square feet location in Huntington Beach, CA in the next month.

I hope you guys can be patient with us as we are way behind schedule with the Celica turbo system. However, I can assure you guys that when the kit is available, it will be the best kit available. The current revision of the Celica turbo system includes an Apex Power FC and 550cc injectors. We've tested several other fuel systems, and there's just no other way to do it right. There are ways to make the engine live under boost, but just because the engine lives, that doesn't mean that it's making optimum power. Sure, it's going to be one of the more expensive systems available with features like these, but we've done the research and it's the only way for things to work perfectly.

Thanks for your time.

[X-EVIL-X]

its taken you guys well over a year and a few months to get this released to the public.
how long would a gts engine last(how many miles) with this turbo kit?
get this thing released right away BEFORE you start any other projects.
the first turbo/supercharger available will sell like crazy and you will be missing out if you put it off longer.
get this thing going
can you give us some spec on it.
i know you've dynoed it before...

[spaldam]

Originally posted by X-EVIL-X

xs NEVER started selling the kit

My sources tell me it's becasue they don't know how to tune it. Check out my other post regarding this:

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17861

[Ntence99]

My main question for xs is ,when they finaly release the kit for the gts..will they have have an authorized dealer in the south east to properly install and tune the kit or am io gonna have to ship my car to california....all i know is I WANT TURBO POWER!!!!!

[atehrani]

XSPOWER, I for one am glad that you've taken the time and effort to ensure reliability. My question is, you mentioned that you're using an Apexi PowerFC for engine management. Will we lose VVTL-i? From what I understand, Apexi doesn't have a PowerFC for the Celica, unless you guys got hooked up. If so, will we see such a product in the near future for us NA fellas?

[X-EVIL-X]

well judging by there dyno for both torque and horsepower the celica still has lift.
it makes most of its power around the same time we do in the powerband.
take a look at it(reviews page)

[RUSHIIII]

atehrani- They make the Power FC for the JDM Celicas, what they are doing is adapting them to the US specs........

Laters
Chris

[XSPOWER]

I was going to post some dynosheets, but I don't know how. Anybody know how to post a jpeg here?

spaldam: As far as XS not being able to tune the Celica, that's complete nonsense. Our main tuner here is very experienced from Japan and I myself was the Chief Engineer at Apex Integration for the last four years. I just left Apex and came to XS 2 months ago. In fact, I converted and developed all Power FC applications here in America (including the Celica). Yes, they are converted JDM units. Most changes are in the software, but on occasion (RX-7 and Celica) there are several changes on the motherboard. In any case, we're the most advanced Apex Power Excel shop here in America.

atehrani: Yes, the Power FC will be available for the NA fellas. To be honest, it doesn't make a whole lot of power for a stock car. VVTi is also tuneable (there's a complete map for cam timing alone) and the cam swithover points are also adjustable. This is a very useable feature for an experienced tuner, but potentially a disaster for idiots or do-it-yourselfers. Why? Well imagine if you're playing around with cam timing and you have the big cam come in while you have one or both of the cams too advanced or too retarded. This spells massive disaster because the valves will collide with each other OR with pistons OR both.

Despite popular belief, the cam switchover points don't make too much difference on the 2ZZ. There's some work required to smooth the cam transition and make the big cam useable at a lower RPM. Anyhow, the Power FC will make about 6-7hp across the powerband and a peak of 3-4hp. You can feel it on the road as the engine is way more lively anywhere in the RPM band. 91octane is the reason why more power can't be made.

Ntence99: I'm sure there will be an authorized dealer in the southeast somewhere. I don't really have much to do with sales here, but you can call and ask. 714-992-4133.

[X-EVIL-X]

post the pic with these at the beginning and at the end.
so it doesn't disengage the lift at 6k right?
how much is it going to be when it comes out and when can we expect it?
how many miles has that one xs celica put on it and have you had any problems?

[spaldam]

Originally posted by XSPOWER
spaldam: As far as XS not being able to tune the Celica, that's complete nonsense. Our main tuner here is very experienced from Japan and I myself was the Chief Engineer at Apex Integration for the last four years. I just left Apex and came to XS 2 months ago. In fact, I converted and developed all Power FC applications here in America (including the Celica). Yes, they are converted JDM units. Most changes are in the software, but on occasion (RX-7 and Celica) there are several changes on the motherboard. In any case, we're the most advanced Apex Power Excel shop here in America.

I don't suppose you'd want someone to test out your kit at high altatudes to see what kind of tuneing that would need? The guys around here at XTR Mortorsports say they do a lot with you guys and could work with my car to see what kind of tuneing can be done for high altitute cars.

If you don't want to, I'll understand, but I just have to ask to make sure.

[XSPOWER]

X-EVIL-X: Sorry, I couldn't see that image so I'm not sure what you mean about posting dynosheets. Anybody else know how to post a dyno sheet? This whole forum thing is new to me. Anyhow, the cars each have well over 10k miles on them each and testing has shown no problems. I'm sure the engine reliability has been attributed to good tuning though. It doesn't matter how good an engine is if the tuning is no good.

spaldam: We know what high altitude tuning requires. We've tuned cars that have run in Colorado before and we've tuned a Skyline GT-R that will be at Pike's Peak this year. As far as testing for your car, sure why not? However, we can't do anything until the kit is released in its bolt-on form. XTR uses our turbochargers in their drag Honda so we have a working relationship already.

[spaldam]

Originally posted by XSPOWER
spaldam: We know what high altitude tuning requires. We've tuned cars that have run in Colorado before and we've tuned a Skyline GT-R that will be at Pike's Peak this year. As far as testing for your car, sure why not? However, we can't do anything until the kit is released in its bolt-on form. XTR uses our turbochargers in their drag Honda so we have a working relationship already.

Humm... well it sounds like were all going to need to wait till the end of summer for just about any kind of FI, from anyone. I guess that'll give me some time to work on the traction I expect I'll need to take full advantage of the kind of power FI will give.

That honda is cool. I've seen them run it a few times at the local track. Infact I expect to see it this saturday as they're sponsoring a "Spring Battle" that I'll be compeating in the all motor class with my celica.

O, to post an image, you can click on post reply, then there should be a few buttons above the text entry window, and one of them says IMG. Click on it and then put URL to the image in the box that pops up.

http://www.spaldam.scottclan.org/Hobbies/Celica/EyeLids/FrontView.jpg

works like a charm...... bascially the code looks simliar to this but without the extra spaces:

[ I M G ] http://www.spaldam.scottclan.org/Hobbies/Celica/EyeLids/FrontView.jpg [ / I M G ]

[larryd]

XSPOWER.. email me the image and I will post them - webmaster@newcelica.org