Anyone know of some camber plates that will work with TRD coilovers?

[DopeCelicaGT]

As stated above I would like to get some camber plates that would work with my current set-up. TIA!

Justin

[Scratchy]

check PM...

[autxr]

$5 toyota crash bolts will work fine.

[MicaCeli]

Any plate that works with stock struts will work with the TRD's.

[badceli]

I thought Hotchkis was the only ones that made them for us? I want a set, just waiting for a used set to pop up. $224 seems a little expensive.
http://monkeywrenchracing.com/hotchkis_rear_camber_plates_toyota_celica_00_.html

Scratchy,
Do you have a set for sale that I could buy out from under Justin?

[Scratchy]

Scratchy,
Do you have a set for sale that I could buy out from under Justin?

I don't...but Diesel Dud do... :chuckles:

[badceli]

Thanks. Can you tell him I want them if you see him before I can get a PM to him?

[Scratchy]

Thanks. Can you tell him I want them if you see him before I can get a PM to him?

Sure. But do send him an email or PM he is quite busy!

[badceli]

Actually I can't come onto Justins thread and buy something out from under him can I. That would be pretty messed up.

I did send Diesel Dud a PM, but I'll wait to see if Justin wants them before I buy them.

[Scratchy]

Actually I can't come onto Justins thread and buy something out from under him can I. That would be pretty messed up.

I did send Diesel Dud a PM, but I'll wait to see if Justin wants them before I buy them.

sounds good to me!

[DopeCelicaGT]

Actually I can't come onto Justins thread and buy something out from under him can I. That would be pretty messed up.

I did send Diesel Dud a PM, but I'll wait to see if Justin wants them before I buy them.


Nah, that is cool man LOL. You can go ahead and buy them. If I want them bad enough then I will just rip them off of my g/f's car LMAO! :)!

[badceli]

Thanks Justin. He has to find out what they go for before he can give me a price, but if they sell new for about $200, shouldn't be too much used.

So what else do I need as far as handling goes? I'll have the Stoptech BBK, rear disc conversion with Stoptech discs, TRD coilovers, Tanabe tower bar, Hotchkis sways and Hotchkis camber kit.

I think I'm done.

[DopeCelicaGT]

^^^Rear strut bar?

[shrumdude]

Thanks Justin. He has to find out what they go for before he can give me a price, but if they sell new for about $200, shouldn't be too much used.

So what else do I need as far as handling goes? I'll have the Stoptech BBK, rear disc conversion with Stoptech discs, TRD coilovers, Tanabe tower bar, Hotchkis sways and Hotchkis camber kit.

I think I'm done.



Tires...

[autxr]

Again, $5 each for crash bolts, max cost will be $20. If that isn't actually good enough, then this post *really* belongs in the appearance section.

[Scratchy]

^^^Rear strut bar?

speaking of which...Diesel Dud also has one for sale...a very nice (and super rare) one for sale...


But I do agree...tires are what makes the biggest difference...all the good brake and suspension bits you pay a premimum price are no good without the tires to handle them to their highest potentiel.

[badceli]

^^^Rear strut bar?


I'm having that custom made. I'll have bars holding my two NX bottles and three amps. It will be one piece that will also be made to be a rear strut bar.


Tires...
[/QUOTE]

Yes, forgot to say that I'll get the best tires there are. Still not sure which are the best though.

[badceli]

Again, $5 each for crash bolts, max cost will be $20. If that isn't actually good enough, then this post *really* belongs in the appearance section.


Sorry autxr, I wanted to ask you what those are, but didn't want to sound like an idiot.
So can you tell me what they are and where I can get them? Thanks.

[badceli]

^^^Rear strut bar?

speaking of which...Diesel Dud also has one for sale...a very nice (and super rare) one for sale...


But I do agree...tires are what makes the biggest difference...all the good brake and suspension bits you pay a premimum price are no good without the tires to handle them to their highest potentiel.



Scratchy,
What kind does he have? Just out of curiosity.

[Scratchy]

quote from his ad on another forum:

Hypermotive 3-point removable rear strut tower bar
- This is the only removeable rear strut tower bar for the Celica
- Purchased in a special group buy; i.e. Hypermotive does not make these (one-time special order)
- The thing is like new - it's barely been in my car.. i removed it when i removed my rear seats temporarily last summer and never put it back in
- Easy install

[badceli]

Sounds cool. I'm sure he will have no trouble selling that.

Well the sways I was going to buy are the sports and not the competitions. I was tempted to buy them anyway because I just can't see how there could be that much of a difference. But since you guys are the experts, I'll take your word for it and keep looking for a set of competitions. I'll just buy them new if I don't find a used set in the next couple months. Thanks.

[DopeCelicaGT]

quote from his ad on another forum:

Hypermotive 3-point removable rear strut tower bar
- This is the only removeable rear strut tower bar for the Celica
- Purchased in a special group buy; i.e. Hypermotive does not make these (one-time special order)
- The thing is like new - it's barely been in my car.. i removed it when i removed my rear seats temporarily last summer and never put it back in
- Easy install



How much does he want for it?

[Scratchy]

How much does he want for it?

I don't know...send him a PM.

[DopeCelicaGT]

^^^^ I sent it already LOL! Thanks.

[conehugger]

Any plate that works with stock struts will work with the TRD's.

I have the custco plates for the front, and had to manufacturer an new bushing to take up the difference between the TRD Coilover rod and hole in the Custco plates, along with machining the TRD top mounting plate. I thought the same thing you said here, but it was not true. Also with the two 3 dots on the lower part I was not able to get enough camber out of this setup. This is mostly due to TRD bottom holes are not located in the same place as the stock holes. They are offset a little bit to help offset the negative camber gain from lowering the car.

[badceli]

Again, $5 each for crash bolts, max cost will be $20. If that isn't actually good enough, then this post *really* belongs in the appearance section.


Sorry autxr, I wanted to ask you what those are, but didn't want to sound like an idiot.
So can you tell me what they are and where I can get them? Thanks.



Anybody know?

[badceli]

Any plate that works with stock struts will work with the TRD's.

I have the custco plates for the front, and had to manufacturer an new bushing to take up the difference between the TRD Coilover rod and hole in the Custco plates, along with machining the TRD top mounting plate. I thought the same thing you said here, but it was not true. Also with the two 3 dots on the lower part I was not able to get enough camber out of this setup. This is mostly due to TRD bottom holes are not located in the same place as the stock holes. They are offset a little bit to help offset the negative camber gain from lowering the car.


What? An autocrosser with TRD coilovers? Maybe they aren't junk like so many people say.

So will the Hotchkis camber plates work on the back with TRD coilovers?

[DopeCelicaGT]

I have the custco plates for the front, and had to manufacturer an new bushing to take up the difference between the TRD Coilover rod and hole in the Custco plates, along with machining the TRD top mounting plate. I thought the same thing you said here, but it was not true. Also with the two 3 dots on the lower part I was not able to get enough camber out of this setup. This is mostly due to TRD bottom holes are not located in the same place as the stock holes. They are offset a little bit to help offset the negative camber gain from lowering the car.

TRD top mounting plate? Hmmm....do you have a picture of this? I am not 100% sure what you are talking about. Is this on top of the strut tower itself or on top of the strut? I remember taking those black plates off the car, you know the plates from the front with the little arrows in them, which someone told me had to do with aligning the stock suspension somehow. For example, the arrows were supposed to point a certain way or something, but the directions did not say or actually said not to reuse these which I thought was weird. Can you please elaborate on what you are talking about? Thanks.

What? An autocrosser with TRD coilovers? Maybe they aren't junk like so many people say.

So will the Hotchkis camber plates work on the back with TRD coilovers?

Actually, there are a lot of people that do not think they are junk. I personally do not think they are junk, but I have had some problems with them, mainly alignment issues from incompetent shops, but the TRD coilovers themselves are far from junk.

[autxr]

Crash bolts, are factory authorized camber correction bolts.

Here's the relevant page in the service manual.

http://home.earthlink.net/~celica73/camber.jpg

EDIT: URL fixed. It's my own stinking account...

[badceli]

autxr, sorry to keep bugging you about this, but the link doesn't work......

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We're Sorry! We can't locate the page you requested



Would you mind trying it one more time. I would really like to know about these. Thanks.

[conehugger]

90105-15001 Bolt, Washer Base Stock Bolt Bolt
90105-15004 Bolt, Washer Base 1 Dot Crash Bolt
90105-15005 Bolt, Washer Base 2 Dot Crash Bolt
90105-15006 Bolt, Washer Base 3 Dot Crash Bolt

[badceli]

Thanks conehugger. I don't know what those numbers mean, but I'll do a search and see what I can find out.

[DopeCelicaGT]

^^^They are part numbers for the different crash bolts available at any Toyota dealer, or hey should be anyways. Each bolt should offer you a little more range over the other one, if I am not mistaken. Like 1 would offer you more adjustability than stock, 2 would be more than one, and 3 would offer more range than 1 and 2.

[badceli]

Do you have them? Are they something that I should get with my TRD coilovers and Hotchkis sways?

[DopeCelicaGT]

^^^I don't have them on this car and using the TRD coilovers they should be able to get the alignment back within specs, key word there being should. I have had my car aligned 3 different times since I have had my coilovers on and my alignment still isn't right, but nobody told me that they could not get it within specs so...I think it is mainly because the shops are incompetent. However, all Celicas are different so it would seem, which is weird, and some may require them under certain situations while others may not. You should not require them for your TRD coilovers but if you want a lot more adjustment of the front camber which will allow for better handling then you might want to invest in some as these will allow a greater range of adjustment. Most people serious about suspension work run some negative camber depending on their driving habits. Most people have to toy with it to find what suits them best but I find that most people I have found that autocross prefer -1.5 degrees to -2.0 degrees of camber up front. It really does make a huge difference as far as handling goes. It would not hurt you to buy these and go ahead an put them on as they are only like $3 a piece or so. The only downside to them is that when they are not torqued down correctly they may slip and thereby ruin your alignment settings requiring you to align it again, but if it is done right the first time then you should be fine. It's all up to you.

[badceli]

Thanks. I'll try out what I have for now and see if it needs improving.

[autxr]

Fixed link above

[badceli]

Thanks autxr. Very good link. NOW I can see what they do.

[DopeCelicaGT]

I still do not know how the hell the bolts work though LOL. I mean I don't get how messing with those two bolts do anything because when I tightened mine down they were the way they were and there was no loosening of bolts to move them left or right. I dunno I am not alignment expert so I have no idea but I would like to see if someone could explain it to me.

Justin