00+ celica stereo wiring harness...?

[flyimages]

i know that the 00+ celica dont' have a stereo wiring harness, but it's been awhile since, does anyone know if it's available yet?

[vtspykez]

uh... they have a harness you can get em any car shops if not most , its a regular 1 port harness and 4 RCA wires comes outs .( those are your speaker wires )

[flyimages]

uh... they have a harness you can get em any car shops if not most , its a regular 1 port harness and 4 RCA wires comes outs .( those are your speaker wires )


really, the last i heard we had to splice our current harness to install an aftermarket deck.

[vtspykez]

neg. theres a harness out already for awhile i belive its the same as the RSX's system too. but yeh no splicing is required =] 4 rca connects to the deck and connect the red yellow and black thats it =] simple

[vatik]

Are you wanting input or output into the headunit, both are possible.

[vtspykez]

input output wah ?? :confused: he just wants to know if there are harnesses for the 00+celicas

[onecdt4462]

I've gotten about four different awnsers to that question from bestbuy and circuit city! first best buy tells me it has to be rewired, then they tell me they can order a special harness, then they tell me it has to be rewired again! circuit city tells me they can specail order the harness, but i have to find the part number

[vtspykez]

dude. circuit city and best buys dont know anything i came in and asked for a stereo dash kit for a 2000 gts and they gave me a 95.. ?? if you want and arent in a hurry i can get you a harness and have it shipped to you. any other quesitons about installing just ask because i installed mines myself took awhile but finally got it

stupid car shops asked like 100 or 150 sayin they have to bypass the factory amp which isnt necessary. :liar:

[onecdt4462]

what if i just hard wired my head unit to the factory wiring? best buy told me i would fry the head unit if i did that!

[vtspykez]

wire your stereo to your factory wiring.. ? it wont work because ive already tried that. i spliced all the wires and hooked it up to my aftermarket deck and theres powers and i worked with a car audio shop and my friend was there assisting and we couldnt get any sound to come out. so i suggest you just get the harness its really easy , plug and play . unless you want to learn the hard way and end up not working at all. up to u. =] just looking out for you

[onecdt4462]

Thank you man! i appreicate your help, where can i get the harness?

[vatik]

O input output wah ?? :confused: he just wants to know if there are harnesses for the 00+celicas


Oh well, that too, i have one sitting in my living room.

[PacificBlue]

All 2K/2K+ Celi's have stereo wiring harnesses that fit them. Celi's with the stock 6-speaker system can take the Scosche TA-02, and Celi's w/optional Premium 3-in-1 AM/FM ETR/Cassette/CD w/8 spkrs & separate amp can take the Scosche TA-03, but the TA-03 harness must be modified to prevent noise from getting into the stockAmp.

Click for Scosche TA-02 (http://www.cardomain.com/item/SCOTA02B)
Click for Scosche TA-03 (the BlueBox is -not- used) (http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/SCOTA03B)
Click for Scosche TA-03 Wiring Kit Noise Mod (http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=94942&highlight=Scosche+TA-02)

[onecdt4462]

i am a wiring retard! please tell me that mod is easier than it looks! i can do simple color matching and that crap, but the mod is way beyond my skill!

[PacificBlue]

Yep, it's a lot easier than it sounds. If you do the mod by just following the pics you'll probably ace it. Written instructions are always there if you get lost, confused, or want more details.

If you're not great at soldering, there are plenty of places on the internet where you can learn how. The two most important things when it comes to soldering are: 1) knowing the difference between a good solder joint and a cold solder joint, and 2) knowing when to remove the soldering tip before it melts the insulation or plastic the wire or pin is passing thru (like the connector shell).

Better yet, just find a friend or family member who knows how to solder, print the instructions and hand them the harness & resistors.

[vtspykez]

still having trouble installin a deck?

[ibanezgfx]

so i guess this voids my thread..
anyways, what exactly happens if you dont mod the harness?
do i have to go buy stuff to mod it with? i didnt read the mod site yet so dont yell at me :)

[PacificBlue]

"What exactly happens if you dont mod the harness?"

WARNING: Turn your PC speakers down first! Then Click Here:
Scosche TA-03 Harness w/HUM, ECU, & ALT Noise (http://pacificbluegts.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/ALT.mp3)

[gtsracerz]

i did it the quickest way and no harness needed...i just cut the speaker wires from the stock amp and connect it directly to the aftermarket headunit and i used the power wire from the harness that connected to the stock headunit

[jm_gts]

still having trouble installin a deck?

this is "flyimages" the thread starter, for some reason i can't post.

anyways..
i went to circuit city, bestbuy, pepboys, they all gave me the wrong wire harness. they don't fit for crap. i got pissed off & started splicing the factory harness, i got the new deck to turn on, but having problems with the speaker wiring colors doesn't match the ones on the newcelica.org install guide, come to find out, i didn't know i have an factory amp where the glove box is & the colors were supposed to match there.

Do i even have an factory amp at all, i haven't had time to to take a look. i have a 01' gts.. don't know if i have a premium sound system..

[vtspykez]

haha sad , ive encounted the same problem all those places gave me celica harnesses not for 2000+ so yeh.. sad..

[jm_gts]

haha sad , ive encounted the same problem all those places gave me celica harnesses not for 2000+ so yeh.. sad..

yea all the harness i got was 87+ toyota..

i'm going to check out walmart i know they have tons of scoshe products hopefully i'll find the ta-03 harness.. plus you can't beat the price

[a1montee]

did it the quickest way and no harness needed...i just cut the speaker wires from the stock amp and connect it directly to the aftermarket headunit and i used the power wire from the harness that connected to the stock headunit

Does that work ok?
Im trying to install a head unit DAMN this stock amp.
Sounds like i should cut it out and F the harnesses!

[2way]

Holy thread resurrection. You should search this forum a little more.

It all depends on whether you have the Premium sound package and whether it is '03+ or not. If you have a <'03 w/premium sound, you will lose bass going directly to the speakers w/o the OEM amp unless you replace the speakers, too. This is because the '00-'02 amp has a crossover built into the amp for the front subs. The '03+ have a different spkr/amp combo w/o that issue.

[a1montee]

hm well i removed the stock amp reran all the speakers to a 4chnnl amp, and went from there. everything seems to work fine. as for bass off the stock speakers im not worried if its not there. The two 12" subs do enough lol

[yodaddyguido]

well since someone revived this, and 2way just brought up something i didnt know... how does the factory amp separate the channels? is there a crossover for each channel?

im trying to revive the factory radio setup in mine and god knows where all the original speaker wires went. the previous owner ran separate wires for each speaker up to the front. i added an infinity crossover to each front door so i could use the tweeter again but im wondering if i should/shoudln't remove it. if i run the mid wires from the amp to the door crossovers will it eliminate the bass and highs before it gets there? would i be better off running new wires from the tweeters to catch the highs, and then attach the door speaker wires to the low? factory speakers are awol, and ive never even seen them for sale so im trying to get the best sound out of the factory 8speaker radio. tips? lol

[2way]

The two 12" subs do enough lol That'd do it ;)is there a crossover for each channel?Yep. Has to be.if i run the mid wires from the amp to the door crossovers will it eliminate the bass and highs before it gets there? would i be better off running new wires from the tweeters to catch the highs, and then attach the door speaker wires to the low? factory speakers are awol, and ive never even seen them for sale so im trying to get the best sound out of the factory 8speaker radio. tips? lol A little confusing on what it is you are actually doing. The way I interpret it, you are using the factory radio & amp to aftermarket spkrs?

On the '00-'02 premium sound, there are two outputs to the front spkrs - one Mid/High and one Subwoofer. There is a high pass blocking cap on the tweeters. What speakers & crossovers do you have in the doors? Have the rear speakers been replaced, too?

[yodaddyguido]

the front and rear speakers are both 6 1/2" infinity 2-way speakers, and the tweeters are factory. when i bought the car, the tweeters werent working, simply because they werent wired up at all anymore. since i wasnt sure if they had a high pass filter, i installed the infinity component crossover in the door and wired the tweeters straight to that and the reg speakers to the low pass freq. there was originally an aftermarket radio in the dash but it sucks, so i removed it, salvaged the factory harness, and now im taking the new speaker wires and wiring them back up to the factory amp. im just wondering which wires to choose since im essentially missing one of the three channels per door. i figure if i want the same or similar sound, i should wire the low pass to the door speakers, and run new wire from the tweeters back to the amp and just tie them into the high pass wires. i was just wondering if i hooked up the door speakers to the mid range wires if i would get any bass, or if id just be listening to scratchy highs all day.

or to make this easy... lol does anyone have any factory door speakers for a gts for sale?

[blk_celi]

i swear the GTS? after market deck install is a b*tch!!! mine still squeeks... gotat wait till snow clears then get my guy to put a silencing thingy on it. and now my bass died down alot... i liked the stock gts speakers sound.... now i gotta get subs

[2way]

The '00-'02 amp is designed to drive a front 3way component set. The tweeter and midrange get one output and the bass/subwoofer gets a separate output.im just wondering which wires to choose since im essentially missing one of the three channels per door.There are only two freq ranges to each door out of the amp High/Mid and Sub.i installed the infinity component crossover in the door and wired the tweeters straight to that and the reg speakers to the low pass freq. How big are the tweeters in the infinity's? Sounds like you are running two tweeters.

i installed the infinity component crossover in the door and wired the tweeters straight to that and the reg speakers to the low pass freq. ^That would pretty much defeat the two tweeter scenario I just mentioned. The Infinity tweeter won't be getting much @ all.

run new wire from the tweeters back to the amp and just tie them into the high pass wires. i was just wondering if i hooked up the door speakers to the mid range wires if i would get any bass, or if id just be listening to scratchy highs all day. The High/Mid output of the amp is highpass. The Sub output gets the bass. You'd get some. But, not much.

Is there some reason you want the OEM tweeters back in there?

A more recent suggestion was to swap the full range rear wiring to the front and send the Mid/High from the front to the rears. Giving you bass in the fronts, less in the rears. Another option is to just swap to an '03+ OEM amp (w/o the built-in crossover) or an aftermarket one.

[yodaddyguido]

well i really enjoy a decent amount of bass but im not a big fan of losing my trunk to a pair of 32" subs, that was the original reason why i wired the fronts like components using the stock tweeters. the speakers really werent using the tweeters that were built in, but they were able to push a bit more bass through them. also, i had been using the speakers w/o the upper tweeters originally and the sound was easily drowned out by having a passenger, or my own leg getting in front of the speaker which i thought was stupid... so i got the tweeters running again to bring the sound up to everyone's ears a bit.

update from tonight though. spent some time getting what wires i do have right now to the amp and testing the factory head unit. i have a feeling its going to sound great once i get the tweeters their own wires to the amp. ive got the rears with the right wires, but the door speakers i have running on the low pass. im hoping to get all the voice and highs from the tweeters up front. factory sound surprised me though, its pretty good.

[Proximity]

A more recent suggestion was to swap the full range rear wiring to the front and send the Mid/High from the front to the rears. Giving you bass in the fronts, less in the rears. Another option is to just swap to an '03+ OEM amp (w/o the built-in crossover) or an aftermarket one.

That was me . :chuckles:


But seriously, if you don't want to have to buy anything, I think that would be you're best bet. You'd have to ditch the tweeter, but with the aftermarket speakers you have it should be pretty good.

What I would do though is just buy an aftermarket amp. You'll likely (I say likely because I have no idea how much the stock amp puts out..I'd guess around 40w) have more power going into the infinitys you have and it will just end up sound better all around I think.


Or if you want the stock speakers, if you wanted to (help) fund my new ones I'd be more than happy to send the old ones to you. :D

[yodaddyguido]

well well well prox, what do they look like? lol pm me

[2way]

That was me Senior moment, blonde moment, or long term effects of short term drug abuse..... I'm terrble w/names & handles.

yodaddyguido, do I understand what you are doing correctly? You are running the OEM tweeters to the amp's High/Mid now and are going to wire the Sub output to the Infinity's? You'll probably loose some mid.... but, the rears might make up for some of it. That might not work out so bad.

[yodaddyguido]

yea youve got it, so far its not too bad. i havent run the highs yet so the front does sound kinda lame with only lows. ive gotta figure out a better way to mount the speakers as well. theyre not in there secure enough to be pounding out lows constantly... a lot of bracket rattling. im gonna talk to prox about the factory speakers and see if those can be acquired. the rear speakers sound awesome though, id say better than they were coming out of the pioneer unit.

[2way]

The stock rears rather sucked in the '00-'02. You're way better off w/the 2ways there.

You shouldn't have to run wires direct to the amp for the High. They should already be in the doors... unless the previous owner ripped that stuff out.

[yodaddyguido]

he may not have completely ripped them out, but id be lucky to find them. he seems to have left the car in a hurry lol and as for the rears, im def staying with the infinity's