Which wideband o2

[lowredcruzr]

just wanted to see which you guys are running,i was looking at the aem but i'm open to suggestions.
justin

[badceli]

Everybody has told me that the AEM is the way to go. Here is the cheapest that I have found them. Thanks to QTRMLR_1....
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/aemgauge.htm

[fraugts]

well, I was in love with the UEGO, and when I was about to buy it, the seller shows me the Innovate XD-1. The richest point that the AEM will read is about 11.0 :( while the XD-1 reads below 9. So I ordered the Innovate wideband because of the wide range of values. Its a matter of choice, both are great.

just my .02

[badceli]

How much did you pay for the XD-1? Where did you get it?

[twistedGTS]

well, I was in love with the UEGO, and when I was about to buy it, the seller shows me the Innovate XD-1. The richest point that the AEM will read is about 11.0 :( while the XD-1 reads below 9. So I ordered the Innovate wideband because of the wide range of values. Its a matter of choice, both are great.

just my .02


I also have Innovate's wideband. I really like all the features but it might be too much if you have a PFC.
Zeitronics (sp?) seems to be the most popular around here or UEGO if you have PFC

[badceli]

I just ordered the AEM UEGO from here....http://www.rpmoutlet.com/aemgauge.htm and it let me use the $50 coupon code twice. Not sure if I was supposed to do that or if I'll get an email saying there was a problem with my order, but I guess we'll see.

Here is the total from my order form....



Product Name Price Ea. Coupons Amount
1 AEM Wideband UEGO Controller (2-1/16) gauge $377.95 -$50.00 $327.95

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Sub Total (taxable) $327.95
Sub Total (non-taxable) $0.00
Store Coupon -$50.00
Store Handling Fee(s) $8.75
Shipping Fee (Regular/Ground) $0.00
TX State Sales Tax $25.09
TOTAL $311.79

[venomceli]

I love my zeitronix, it goes way below 9 afr, also has boost egt and narrow 02, you have to buy the adapters seperate as i did but it was worthi it imo

[Jersey Jay]

I use this with al the options they offer.

www.zeitronix.com

I also data log with my data logger/reader/editor/scanner/diagnostics software and hardware.

www.hptuners.com

The ECU programer might not be availale for the Toyota but you can tune via Speed Density working of the MAP rather than the MAF which is much more accurate.

Both of the above will let you do graph overlays and format in XL.

[mtskibum16]

I also have the zeitronix...works great and has ALOT more features than the AEM or LM1. All three are good but the Zeitronix ZT2 has the most to offer.

[cool2miketlu]

It all depends on your preference, AEM EMS has big numbers easy to see. Zeitronix have option to display more info.

[badceli]

Yesterday at about 5:00 pm I ordered the AEM UEGO, this thing just showed up at my door today. I couldn't believe it. I didn't know it was possible to order something online and get it the next day.

And the total was $311. I thought they must have made a mistake. Very good price.

[iMouseGTS]

Wow great deal, I also have an AEM UEGO, I like the big number and the indicator on the outside dial. At that price, that's a steal!

[badceli]

Wow great deal, I also have an AEM UEGO, I like the big number and the indicator on the outside dial. At that price, that's a steal!

Yeah, if you look at the site, it says $377, but I had no idea you could enter the $50 coupon code twice and bring the price down to $311 shipped. I was very happy.

But with my luck, they will go on sale for $200 now.

Where did you mount yours?

[JCelica132]

wow, $311 for a uego + gauge shipped! i may have to buy!

[GT-Skid]

I have the profec E-01 and people have said that you can use that for a wideband reader as well. I have e-mailed Greddy and no one has ever got back to me. Anyone know how to do this???

Also, BadCeli is that place you ordered from a repectable place?

[badceli]

I have the profec E-01 and people have said that you can use that for a wideband reader as well. I have e-mailed Greddy and no one has ever got back to me. Anyone know how to do this???

Also, BadCeli is that place you ordered from a repectable place?

Jamey,
I don't know what "repectable" means, but I got the gauge in one day. So I would say that they are very good. Remember to enter the coupon code twice to get the price down to $311 shipped.

I also have the E-01 and have never heard that it can be used with a wideband. Mine is not installed yet, so I can't find if it can or not. Is yours installed?

[GT-Skid]

Yeah mine is installed and it says that it can read A/F and even Gas as said that it can but noone can give me any insight on how to wire it up. I have the bosch wideband 02 already and the external signal harness for the Profec but have yet to find a way to wire it up. Gas told me a way but that didn't work and i don't want to keep trying to wire it up cause i don't want to fry the 02 sensor

[badceli]

Yeah mine is installed and it says that it can read A/F and even Gas as said that it can but noone can give me any insight on how to wire it up. I have the bosch wideband 02 already and the external signal harness for the Profec but have yet to find a way to wire it up. Gas told me a way but that didn't work and i don't want to keep trying to wire it up cause i don't want to fry the 02 sensor

Interesting. I'll flud Greddy's email until they give us an answer. I'll let you know what I find out.

You got a phone number for them?

[iMouseGTS]

Where did you mount yours?

In the sunglass compartment along with my profec b spec II. So I can close the door to hide them both.

[QTRMLR_1]

Yeah mine is installed and it says that it can read A/F and even Gas as said that it can but noone can give me any insight on how to wire it up. I have the bosch wideband 02 already and the external signal harness for the Profec but have yet to find a way to wire it up. Gas told me a way but that didn't work and i don't want to keep trying to wire it up cause i don't want to fry the 02 sensor

Interesting. I'll flud Greddy's email until they give us an answer. I'll let you know what I find out.

You got a phone number for them?


I just called Greddy a minute ago and spoke to "Charles" who said that the e-manage or the profec e-01 CANNOT datalog wideband O2 sensor data. I asked specifically whether it was because the e-manage or profec e-01 didn't have a controller, and he said "no, it is because they don't even have that feature."

So I'm not sure what to believe, but that's what an official company representative stated.

He did say that the e-manage Ultimate which will be coming out in a few weeks will have the feature of datalogging wideband O2 sensor data.

from their website:
GREDDY PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS
9 Vanderbilt, Irvine CA 92618
Tel: (949) 588-8300 FAX (949) 588-6318
info@greddy.com
www.greddy.com

[badceli]

Where did you mount yours?

In the sunglass compartment along with my profec b spec II. So I can close the door to hide them both.


Nice. Good idea.


Yeah mine is installed and it says that it can read A/F and even Gas as said that it can but noone can give me any insight on how to wire it up. I have the bosch wideband 02 already and the external signal harness for the Profec but have yet to find a way to wire it up. Gas told me a way but that didn't work and i don't want to keep trying to wire it up cause i don't want to fry the 02 sensor

Interesting. I'll flud Greddy's email until they give us an answer. I'll let you know what I find out.

You got a phone number for them?


I just called Greddy a minute ago and spoke to "Charles" who said that the e-manage or the profec e-01 CANNOT datalog wideband O2 sensor data. I asked specifically whether it was because the e-manage or profec e-01 didn't have a controller, and he said "no, it is because they don't even have that feature."

So I'm not sure what to believe, but that's what an official company representative stated.

He did say that the e-manage Ultimate which will be coming out in a few weeks will have the feature of datalogging wideband O2 sensor data.

from their website:
GREDDY PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS
9 Vanderbilt, Irvine CA 92618
Tel: (949) 588-8300 FAX (949) 588-6318
info@greddy.com
www.greddy.com


Thanks Mike. Glad to hear that I didn't buy the UEGO for no reason.

[QTRMLR_1]

^^ well even if it's true that it doesn't work with the current e-manage, you still can see the values as you drive so it's not worthless. and while not completely attractive you still have the option of selling the current e-manage and getting the Ultimate that is coming out. plus if you go with the PowerFC like you've been considering, you'll easily plug the UEGO into the datalogit.

[badceli]

^^ well even if it's true that it doesn't work with the current e-manage, you still can see the values as you drive so it's not worthless. and while not completely attractive you still have the option of selling the current e-manage and getting the Ultimate that is coming out. plus if you go with the PowerFC like you've been considering, you'll easily plug the UEGO into the datalogit.

That is great news. I was wondering about that. I did buy a power fc for $600.

The new shop I'm going with is going to sell my e-manage for me.

Do you know if I can plug my E-01 into my pfc?

[cool2miketlu]

They do not plug together, you set what you want on the boost controller then tune the PFC to what the car runs with whatever you set the boost on. Did you get datalogit? You hook the wideband O2 to datalogit and you can datalog Wideband O2 and your PowerFC together.

[nug2k_xyr]

Anyone heard things about the LM-1? My friend is letting me borrow his.

[badceli]

No, I haven't got a datalogit yet. I was hoping the shop that tunes my car would have one. If they do have one and they tune my car, will I still need to buy one? I don't trust myself tuning my car.

Remember, I'm just a ricer, not a tuner.

That sucks that the E-01 doesn't plug into the pfc. That was one thing I liked about the e-manage, the E-01 plugged into it and controlled it.

Or am I missing something here?

[QTRMLR_1]

^^ if you want something like the e-01 you can try cool2miketlu's carputer idea. I hardly know much about it so maybe he'll elaborate on the details. it'd be like having your laptop in your car the whole time and it'd be much better than the Commander.

[GT-Skid]

I just called Greddy a minute ago and spoke to "Charles" who said that the e-manage or the profec e-01 CANNOT datalog wideband O2 sensor data. I asked specifically whether it was because the e-manage or profec e-01 didn't have a controller, and he said "no, it is because they don't even have that feature."

So I'm not sure what to believe, but that's what an official company representative stated.

He did say that the e-manage Ultimate which will be coming out in a few weeks will have the feature of datalogging wideband O2 sensor data.

from their website:
GREDDY PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS
9 Vanderbilt, Irvine CA 92618
Tel: (949) 588-8300 FAX (949) 588-6318
info@greddy.com
www.greddy.com

It says right in the Manual for the Profec E-01 that it can display A/F readings and a guy i talked to their is the one that told me about having to buy the external signal harness to make it work. So if this is the case and it in fact can't not display the reading Greddy will be buying back my profec :bang:

[badceli]

^^ if you want something like the e-01 you can try cool2miketlu's carputer idea. I hardly know much about it so maybe he'll elaborate on the details. it'd be like having your laptop in your car the whole time and it'd be much better than the Commander.

Yes, the carputer would be very cool, but I spent $500 on this E-01 because you said it was the one I should buy. So what did I pay $500 for, just to have a boost controller? If this thing can't control the pfc what good is it besides just being a boost controller.

[twistedGTS]

I have the profec E-01 and people have said that you can use that for a wideband reader as well. I have e-mailed Greddy and no one has ever got back to me. Anyone know how to do this???

Also, BadCeli is that place you ordered from a repectable place?


Yeah, i read you need to run the O2 sensor signal wire to one of the analog inputs on the external signal harness:
http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/photos/profec_e-01_photos/opt2.JPG

Then configure the sensor scale here:
http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/manuals/profec_e-01_manual/24.jpg

[badceli]

So it WILL work. That's great. Thanks twistedGTS. Looks like I didn't need to buy the UEGO after all. Oh well, I have it now. Guess it will be better for the A/F to have it's own gauge anyway.

[twistedGTS]

So it WILL work. That's great. Thanks twistedGTS. Looks like I didn't need to buy the UEGO after all. Oh well, I have it now. Guess it will be better for the A/F to have it's own gauge anyway.


I thought you were going PFC? I personally don't think you need the e-01 if you are not using e-manage. I would sell it and get a profec b boost controller.

[badceli]

I thought you were going PFC? I personally don't think you need the e-01 if you are not using e-manage. I would sell it and get a profec b boost controller.

Yes, I did buy a pfc and I will use it, but there is no way somebody is going to give me $500 for my E-01. So I'm stuck with it. Should be a good boost controller to have though.

[QTRMLR_1]

So it WILL work. That's great. Thanks twistedGTS. Looks like I didn't need to buy the UEGO after all. Oh well, I have it now. Guess it will be better for the A/F to have it's own gauge anyway.


Eric, I think you're a little confused. The UEGO is the controller that interprets wideband O2 sensor data and then outputs that to a piggyback ecu or engine management system. Even though the e-01 may display A/F readings, you need an input source.

And I recommended the e-01 to you in the context of you using the e-manage. It now appears, despite conflicting company reports, that the current e-manage and e-01 can accept wideband O2 data.

By switching to the PowerFC, you're making the choice to give up much of the functionality of the e-01, which would be like a small laptop hooked up to the e-manage.

[badceli]

You think I'm a little confused? You have known me long enough to know that I'm a whole lot confused.

Anyway, it was still better for me to switch to the pfc right?

I still have the e-manage. I can go either way, pfc or e-manage.

[cool2miketlu]

Ok... There is a few option. Get a Carputer or laptop hook up the datalogit with wideband O2 onto it, if that boost controller also can connect to a computer connect that as well. The Carputer has touch screen so you can program all kinds of stuff to it, for an example:
Touchscreen button 1: Daily Driver: Link to boost controller to low boost and map to go with it from datalogit upload to PFC.
Touchscreen button 2: AutoX: Link to boost controller to medium boost and map to go with it from datalogit upload to PFC.
Touchscreen button 3: 1/4 mile track: Link boost controller to high boost and the map to go with it from datalogit upload to PFC.
There is alot more possibility than what I listed ofcourse, like get the datalogit to automatically tune to the A:F setting you like so when you up the boost the wideband will detect the A:F difference and auto tune your A:F to exactly what you need. So all you have to do is adjust your boost controller to whatever you want.

Ofcourse all this programming should be done by someone who knows how to tune a car, and hopefully knows something about computer programming too :)

[badceli]

That sounds great, but a little too complicated for me. I think I'll stick with the basics. Thanks though.