Missing any thing?

[jasonisop]

ok just wanting to know if im missing anything, or should change any thing thanks.

Wiseco Piston Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE 1.8L VVTi (8.8:1 (Turbo)-Coated skirts) $578.00

Crower Billet Connecting Rods - Toyota 1ZZ-FE 1.8L VVTi $749.00

Crower Cams - Toyota 1ZZ-FE (Stage 2 FI) $425.00

Crower Spring and Retainer Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE $355.00

MWR Main Bearing Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE 2ZZ-GE $75.00

MWR Rod Bearing Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE.00 $55.00

MWR Valves - Toyota 1ZZ-FE $349.00

MWR ARP Stud Kit - Toyota 1ZZ/2ZZ Cylinder Head $135.00

MWR ARP Stud Kit - Toyota 1ZZ Exhaust Manifold $45.00

MWR Moroso Oil Pan - Toyota ZZ $499.00

MWR 660cc High Impedance Narrow Body Injector (4) $316.00

APEXi Power FC - Toyota MR2 Spyder, Celica GT (1ZZ-FE) $995.00

MWR Chromoly Flywheel - Toyota 1ZZ-FE (Free shifter) $389.00

ACT HD Street Clutch - Toyota 1.8L 98- $380.00

Sub-total: $5,345.00


c2power Celica GT Stage1 turbo kit EU3,490.00 dont know what that makes in us

nitrous express n-tercooler

forgot to add
Power FC Datalogit 339.00
Helical LSD 1zzfe/2zzge EU980.00

[badceli]

That's a nice wish list you have there. That should do you just fine. Got a lot of money burning a hole in your pocket do you?

[jasonisop]

lol planning on maxing out my credit cards

oh and what do you think safe boost would be?

[badceli]

lol planning on maxing out my credit cards

oh and what do you think safe boost would be?

No, you don't want to max your credit cards out unless you're in a big hurry to get all this stuff. Spend a couple months in the for sale forum on this site. I got a few things on your list for about half price just by waiting and watching the for sale forum.

If you get all that stuff, you can run about 14 psi on a stock tranny. Your tranny is what will keep you from being able to run a higher boost.

So, might as well add a c2power tranny to that list and shoot for 30 psi.

[jasonisop]

well then i will definitly check out the for sell section, but i dont see a tranny on the c2 site? did they have a 5speed one?

guess i should have this stuff too

apexi Auto Timer
apexi Digital AVC-R Boost Controller
apexi Super Grounding System

[badceli]

well then i will definitly check out the for sell section, but i dont see a tranny on the c2 site? did they have a 5speed one?

guess i should have these stuff too

apexi Auto Timer
apexi Digital AVC-R Boost Controller
apexi Super Grounding System

No, they don't advertise the tranny anymore. I'm not sure why. You would have to ask him for one.

Yeah, those three things would be good to have also. If you are really serious about doing this, I will give you a complete list of everything you should buy. I'm no expert, but there are a few more things you should get.

When I don't know what I should buy, I just look at this list and copy Smaay....
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179526

I'm at the bottom of the list. Smaay is at the top.

[jasonisop]

sure send me that list

i have a guy that can help me with the install so it will just be the tuning that will be hard on me

[badceli]

sure send me that list

i have a guy that can help me with the install so it will just be the tuning that will be hard on me

Just copy Smaay and you will be good to go.

Finding a good shop to tune your car is always the hard part. I'm looking for one myself.

[jasonisop]

besides the trany just this

SF fuel rail and fuel pressure system
Walboro fuel pump
AEM UEGO Wideband O2 sensor
Full P&P head
3" straight exhaust

[badceli]

Yup, that should be about it.

[badceli]

Here you go....
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179843

turboceli2003 is a great seller. Send him a PM and I bet he will give you the deal of the year if you buy all his stuff from him.

He gave me a great deal on a couple of his parts.

[QTRMLR_1]

fuel pump...
wideband O2 sensor and controller...
gauges...
3" exhaust system, perhaps c2power's..
custom center feed fuel rail...
ported and polished head...
alky injection system...

maybe upgrading components of the brake system hehe.

perhaps c2gas will make the tranny for a group buy, if not from added incentive.

maybe wait for the HydraEMS instead of going PowerFC (ask MWR on their progress).

[Smaay]

if you are going all out and building the motor, your going to need a much stronger clutch than the ACT street disk and HD plate....I have the ACT 6 puck and XT plate..its holding 22psi so i suggest that one...

[jasonisop]

thank you guys for all the help. ill try to keep you all posted on my progress.


also any one know a good tuner in the central washington area? (thats if there is one)

[cool2miketlu]

Buy what C2Power suggests, they know their setup the best.
You forgot the Valvesprings, wideband O2 (if you are going to do your own tuning)
Turbo timer and boost controller

[QTRMLR_1]

not sure how much the Apexi Super Ground System will help for the Celica. it's not cheap at around $300, I believe is the price. anyone ever dyno the results on a Celica?

[Bing]

Wiseco Piston Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE 1.8L VVTi (8.8:1 (Turbo)-Coated skirts) $578.00 = ok

Crower Billet Connecting Rods - Toyota 1ZZ-FE 1.8L VVTi $749.00 = ok

Crower Cams - Toyota 1ZZ-FE (Stage 2 FI) $425.00 = ok

Crower Spring and Retainer Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE $355.00 = ok

MWR Main Bearing Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE 2ZZ-GE $75.00 = ok

MWR Rod Bearing Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE.00 $55.00 = ok

MWR Valves - Toyota 1ZZ-FE $349.00 = ok

MWR ARP Stud Kit - Toyota 1ZZ/2ZZ Cylinder Head $135.00 = ok

MWR ARP Stud Kit - Toyota 1ZZ Exhaust Manifold $45.00 = ok

MWR Moroso Oil Pan - Toyota ZZ $499.00 = ok

MWR 660cc High Impedance Narrow Body Injector (4) $316.00 = ok

APEXi Power FC - Toyota MR2 Spyder, Celica GT (1ZZ-FE) $995.00 = ok

MWR Chromoly Flywheel - Toyota 1ZZ-FE (Free shifter) $389.00 = ok

ACT HD Street Clutch - Toyota 1.8L 98- $380.00 = You will produce too much torque for this clutch. You should think about getting a ACT XT 6 puck clutch(not listed at MWR, but surely orderable if you dropped an email to Matt) which is good for 350 ft-lb of torque. Depending on your HP/torque goal, you should choose your clutch.

Sub-total: $5,345.00


c2power Celica GT Stage1 turbo kit EU3,490.00 dont know what that makes in us = The price of our US customers is listed in US$. Therefor our stage 1 kit costs $3490 for you. I suggest to get the larger intercooler option for an additional $200 and the Apexi air filter option for optimal airflow ($150).
Since you are using PowerFC as replacement for ECU, we can deduct $350 for our Greddy E-manage and injectors harness. Depending on your goals, you also want to consider our GT28RS turbo option if you are planning to boost over 18PSI. Here are the prices listed again:

- C2Power GT stage 2 kit(including larger intercooler instead of medium IC) $3690
- Garrett GT28RS option $350
- Apexi intake option $150
- Greddy E-manage deduction $-350
- Shipping(stage 2 kit) $340

Total: $4180

nitrous express n-tercooler = don't know, not suggested to run Nitro next to turbo

forgot to add
Power FC Datalogit 339.00 = ok
Helical LSD 1zzfe/2zzge EU980.00


Seems that you are beefing up your engine to hold plenty of power. You will surely run into problems with your transmission that cannot hold it. We do have 6 geared straight cut racing transmission made of chromoly molebdium(same steel as crower rods) which has the Helical LSD already, but it takes weeks for us to produce it and the price of it is so high, that hardly anyone can afford it. They are only made in batches of 5 if I am correct and since the price of it lies around $4000, we are forced to keep these trannies in stock worth around $20.000. If you are REALLY interested and serious, I might be able to try to get it. Let me know through PM if you are.

Another suggestion is to look for a boostcontroller. You do not want to fly on every street you drive.

If you look at my signature, you can see the parts for stage 2 at 14.7PSI pushing aprox 260+whp. The setup you listed looks more like c2gas his setup which is basically stage 3 and would push over 300whp.

[soceur]

Seriously man, dont max out the credit cards if you cant pay it back within a few months! Trust me! The plan is to buy your parts, get it installed and tune and be happily merry....Its just not going to work out like that besides the money you have calculated for the parts(i didnt see install price for anything) you can expect for the power youre trying to reach, youre going to spend another 2+grand on odds and ends...yes thats alot of odss and ends. Smaay and I have alot of the same things, so im sure he can confirm what im saying. Good luck bro, just keep it all into perspective. When its finally done and done without fail you will enjoy a monster, plus the burning flame in your pocket;)

[badceli]

Well there you go Jason, you have heard from all the most knowledgeable people on the planet when it comes to our car....QTRMLR_1, Smaay, cool2miketlu, Bing and soceur. These guys know more than anybody I have ever seen. There are a couple more that also know a lot....c2gas, Monkeywrenchracing and Boosted2.0. I'm sure that I'm forgetting a few.

I too have learned something from this thread so far. I bought a new RPS Max street clutch and flywheel that I thought would hold the power I plan to make, but it looks like I'll have to sell that clutch and get something stronger.

I also bought the wrong injectors. The shop doing my motor recommended 880cc, so I'm trying to find a good place to get those right now. Just a couple more examples of how I wasted money because I didn't do enough research before I started buying stuff.

This is turboceli2003's kit that he is selling. Did he get back to you yet?
http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/18208turboceli2003.jpg

[jasonisop]

nitrous express n-tercooler would be Co2 not N2o all it does is lower the air temps on the intercooler suposedly giving a 30 to 50 hp boost. thanks for letting me know about the clutch. I dont plan on buy all at once, just a few thousand worth at a time then build it. I have a friend that can help with all the real work, just he doesnt know how to tune it (he's old school, use to run a 69 ss camero)so i have to find a shop for that. and on the c2power tranny is there a 5 speed(im a gt)

[cool2miketlu]

Well there is good and bad with ntercooler.
First you would probably want to reroute your intake pipe to somewhere else. Considering your Front mount intercooler so you are spraying CO2 infront of that intercooler, however the intake pipe with stock arrangement is within engine area behind intercooler, ac condensor and radiator. This means you are sucking in the CO2 it shoots, so you would want to re-route that intake pipe to maybe around the wheel well area. I would probably not do this ntercooler mod, it is easier to just up the boost and get that 50~60HP with higher octane fuel than filling bottle everytime you use it.
Do you hit alot of traffic? That 6 puck clutch is going to be hell to drive in traffic, you should also consider getting extended pushrod as well since you are going with aftermarket clutch.

[badceli]

Mike can also answer your question about the c2 tranny better than I can. Do you mind Mike? They don't make a 5 speed right?

They usually have you buy a 6 speed tranny and send it to them, then they do their thing and send it back to you.

[badceli]

And I also have a question about the clutch....I bought the RPS Max street clutch and flywheel. Will that handle over 400 whp or should I get a 6 puck and sell the clutch I have? My car is not a daily driver.

[QTRMLR_1]

on the Max street RPS the spec is 300 ft-lb. I think MWR was making 350 whp with 300 ft-lb. so you'd probably be pushing it. safer to get a 6-puck. what do you guys think?

jasonisop, oil cooler? why do you want a 5spd because you have a GT? c2gas has changed the ratios for the GT 6spd. plus, you'd be able to rev higher with your mods.

[cool2miketlu]

Mike can also answer your question about the c2 tranny better than I can. Do you mind Mike? They don't make a 5 speed right?

They usually have you buy a 6 speed tranny and send it to them, then they do their thing and send it back to you.


All Europe Celica is 6 speed, no 5 speed. c2gas used his own GT tranny as a model to make the race tranny, so that is why it is only available in 6 speed. As for the difference between the european 6 speed tranny and U.S., there is very little. You need to get the bell housing of a GTS not the whole tranny, c2power will make the gearing and the LSD to fit inside the tranny. Reason why you mail housing to gas is not anyone can install this gears, you send the bell housing so c2power can cut the tranny and install them for you then mail back to you.
Also just to put your mind at ease, the 6 speed tranny bolts right up to GT. European or U.S. they both work on U.S. GT.

And I also have a question about the clutch....I bought the RPS Max street clutch and flywheel. Will that handle over 400 whp or should I get a 6 puck and sell the clutch I have? My car is not a daily driver.


The clutch will hold the power, you do not use that 300 ft/lb torque all the time, only once in awhile will it ever see that power. But since you have not install this yet then get the right clutch, get it done right the first time instead of finding its not good enough and need to swap the clutch again.

[badceli]

on the Max street RPS the spec is 300 ft-lb. I think MWR was making 350 whp with 300 ft-lb. so you'd probably be pushing it. safer to get a 6-puck. what do you guys think?

jasonisop, oil cooler? why do you want a 5spd because you have a GT? c2gas has changed the ratios for the GT 6spd. plus, you'd be able to rev higher with your mods.


Thanks Mike. Yeah might as well spend the extra 100 bucks or so and get the 6 puck. I even have a buyer for my street clutch already.


Mike can also answer your question about the c2 tranny better than I can. Do you mind Mike? They don't make a 5 speed right?

They usually have you buy a 6 speed tranny and send it to them, then they do their thing and send it back to you.


All Europe Celica is 6 speed, no 5 speed. c2gas used his own GT tranny as a model to make the race tranny, so that is why it is only available in 6 speed. As for the difference between the european 6 speed tranny and U.S., there is very little. You need to get the bell housing of a GTS not the whole tranny, c2power will make the gearing and the LSD to fit inside the tranny. Reason why you mail housing to gas is not anyone can install this gears, you send the bell housing so c2power can cut the tranny and install them for you then mail back to you.
Also just to put your mind at ease, the 6 speed tranny bolts right up to GT. European or U.S. they both work on U.S. GT.

And I also have a question about the clutch....I bought the RPS Max street clutch and flywheel. Will that handle over 400 whp or should I get a 6 puck and sell the clutch I have? My car is not a daily driver.


The clutch will hold the power, you do not use that 300 ft/lb torque all the time, only once in awhile will it ever see that power. But since you have not install this yet then get the right clutch, get it done right the first time instead of finding its not good enough and need to swap the clutch again.


Thank you too Mike.

[jasonisop]

thanks for all the help guys you are really great. Nope not much traffic here in little old ellensburg, only if i make a trip to seattle or yakima, but its not the trafic that will kill me its the cops. This town has City, County, State, and campus(campus can go anywhere in town here) and they all patrol in town(they have nothing better to do).

[QTRMLR_1]

hahaha and this is going to be daily driver? you make it sound as if there's a cop on every block. ahhhh...designing your high-speed low-key getaway car for your bank heist....to pay off the credit cards that bought the car..... :thumbup:

[soceur]

hahaha and this is going to be daily driver? you make it sound as if there's a cop on every block. ahhhh...designing your high-speed low-key getaway car for your bank heist....to pay off the credit cards that bought the car..... :thumbup:

ROFL

[jasonisop]

there is a cop on ever block. coming home from the pass one night i was pulled over 3 times in my geo (dont laugh, well not too much)for a head light out, that was all withen about 3 miles in town. At the local speed trap ive seen 12 staters 6 on both sides.


The main reason to go with the powerFC is to raise the rev limiter to stay in lift better right, but since i have a gt would the emange work fine or would i still want the powerFC?

[QTRMLR_1]

^^ the main reason for a standalone is to have as much control that you can have over the engine as possible without a stock ecu calling the shots. just one example is the PFC being able to control vvt while the e-manage can't. add a PFC to a i/e GT-S and it gets as much low-end torque as a stock GT (sad, but happy hehe). add a PFC to a GT and it gets even more low-end torque and horsepower that it's good at producing.

in truth, the PFC is just mediocre in the world of standalones. The true power is in the likes of an AEM EMS or HydraEMS for our cars. When is the question.

[Blue Angel]

Energy Suspension Polyurethane Inserts for the engine mounts. I love mine.

[OSUFANATIC]

Im selling an SF kit with the works, if u decide not to go with C2

[cool2miketlu]

Lets just say PowerFC is the best engine management available specifically for 7th gen Celica right now. Considering that Celica is discontinued and no 8th gen, I am not keeping my hope up on AEM EMS and HydraEMS.