Need ideas on how to launch a 2k GTS with LSD?

[RiceBoy Killer]

Just want to know what are people's experiences with LSD? How high should the rpms be with stock tires? And with BFG's?

This question is for any LSD. Phantom Grip (aka random grip) or the real ones.

[PorkchopSpecblue GT-S]

Damn man nobody wants to help out or nobody really knows??Hmmmmm.

[dee5330]

I wonder how Type R's launch? My brother has an Sentra SE, and he dumps his at 4k. The rev limiter is at 7200 I believe. His 60' times at the track was a consistent 2.2. That was with a viscious LSD that came stock with the 2k Sentra SE's. I'm guessing that we could probably dump the clutch at 4k to 4.5k without spinning the tires too much.

[gts24]

I was talking to a guy that had the TRD helical at the track. He was doin a 4k + dump.

[RiceBoy Killer]

4k huh?....hmmm seems too low. I heard billy brun was launching at like 6k. Anyone else know anything? I know there are some GTS owners in this forum that have LSD installed in their car. Speak up. Let us know how you like it. Any improvements in your 60' compared to open dif. How about the 1/4 mile times?

[t2000gts]

have you tried out your LSD at the track? other than billybrun, i don't think anyone with an LSD has had success at the track...

i'd try a slip/dump at 6000 with BFGs, but that's just a guess.

[GTS LAID]

go up to 7000 and let go as fast as you can... hehehehe

[gts24]

Originally posted by RiceBoy Killer
4k huh?....hmmm seems too low. I heard billy brun was launching at like 6k. Anyone else know anything? I know there are some GTS owners in this forum that have LSD installed in there car. Speak up. Let us know how you like it.


that's true but he wasn't doing a dump. He was doing some combo of some sort.

He never really fully explained how he did it. I remember him saying that
"no I don't dump", then someone asked well do you slip?
to which he said
"no I don't slip either"......

so I don't have a clue. Also, what clutch do you have?

[larryd]

if i had the Celica and a LSD I would take it up to around 6000 and slip it out a bit and then dump it.. should minimize any wheel spin. but no one knows so know one can really answer.. just do it and find out and then let everyone else know :)

[00 LSM GTS]

i'd try 6k slip and dump.. since some members here already do that w/o LSD

[mirconrice]

i think billybrun revs it up to 6500 and then dumps it but doesn't floor it, instead he modulate the gas. If you dump it and then floor it at 6500, you will spin to redline so when you modulate the gas, the rpm stay in vvtl-i until it catches and then he floors it. Thats what I think. I was going to try it but i took my car in for tranny work.

[RiceBoy Killer]

Originally posted by t2000gts
have you tried out your LSD at the track? other than billybrun, i don't think anyone with an LSD has had success at the track...

i'd try a slip/dump at 6000 with BFGs, but that's just a guess.

I dont have LSD yet.

[RiceBoy Killer]

6k sounds like the magic number. We will just have to see. I know there are a hand full of GTS owners here that have LSD, but dont want to give their feedback about it. I guess it's true that they didn't have success like BillyBrun. Cause if they did have nice results, I know they would have posted.

Porky, we'll need to test it out at the track.

[t2000gts]

get a pair of ultra-sticky DRs or slicks, and dump that **** off the rev limiter :thumbup:

[RiceBoy Killer]

Originally posted by mirconrice
i think billybrun revs it up to 6500 and then dumps it but doesn't floor it, instead he modulate the gas. If you dump it and then floor it at 6500, you will spin to redline so when you modulate the gas, the rpm stay in vvtl-i until it catches and then he floors it. Thats what I think. I was going to try it but i took my car in for tranny work.

Do you have LSD? If so, what kind?

[RiceBoy Killer]

Originally posted by dee5330
I wonder how Type R's launch? My brother has an Sentra SE, and he dumps his at 4k. The rev limiter is at 7200 I believe. His 60' times at the track was a consistent 2.2. That was with a viscious LSD that came stock with the 2k Sentra SE's. I'm guessing that we could probably dump the clutch at 4k to 4.5k without spinning the tires too much.

You look like you have a nice setup. How do you like it? Did you take it to the track yet?

[dee5330]

Haven't taken it to the track yet.....will do by the end of May after I have them installed. I think I'm the only one with the whole TRD tranny mods. Will give you full details soon.

[icyjaws]

lou, just get the **** in , get it to the track and find out ourself. :p

[PapiChuu]

just do it! or let me do it :)
porky im still waitin for my turn to put ur car in the 13s :p

[mirconrice]

Originally posted by RiceBoy Killer


Do you have LSD? If so, what kind?



i don't have a LSD.

[PorkchopSpecblue GT-S]

This LSd is infact mine, not Lou's (sorry to burst your bubble Lou).
Papi maybe you'll get your chance soon, but your not strippin my car down like yours. I(ts going to get into the 13's in full street trim. The car wasn't running 100% when I bbrought it to the track last time.
1.It had a leak from the head gasket (caused some loss in compresion)

2. Needed a alighnment from installing springs

3. Exhuast leak from one of the welds from the Kazuma.

4. The throttle body had some major carbon build up.

5. Not to mention next time I go this damn wing is coming out its causing some major wind drag.

Nothing major but I'm sure all these things contributed to slowing me down.

[spaldam]

Originally posted by dee5330
I wonder how Type R's launch? My brother has an Sentra SE, and he dumps his at 4k. The rev limiter is at 7200 I believe. His 60' times at the track was a consistent 2.2. That was with a viscious LSD that came stock with the 2k Sentra SE's. I'm guessing that we could probably dump the clutch at 4k to 4.5k without spinning the tires too much.

I run with a type R at the track. He said he launches at around 6-7k. I used to launch at around 4500, but since I got a pair of drag radials I've been launching closer to 6k because I'm not as afraid to spin the tires. With an LSD I'd expect that highr RPM launches would be less likely to spin the tires as well, and hopefuly I'll be able to get a LSD in the car some time next month.

[PapiChuu]

Originally posted by PorkchopSpecblue GT-S
This LSd is infact mine, not Lou's (sorry to burst your bubble Lou).
Papi maybe you'll get your chance soon, but your not strippin my car down like yours. I(ts going to get into the 13's in full street trim. The car wasn't running 100% when I bbrought it to the track last time.
1.It had a leak from the head gasket (caused some loss in compresion)

2. Needed a alighnment from installing springs

3. Exhuast leak from one of the welds from the Kazuma.

4. The throttle body had some major carbon build up.

5. Not to mention next time I go this damn wing is coming out its causing some major wind drag.

Nothing major but I'm sure all these things contributed to slowing me down.

i gotta strip mine down i need to substitute the lack of power somehow, i aint spend the thousands that you have on aftermarket sh

[billybrun]

I DO remember explaining how I launch because I was asked numerous times. Mirconrice remembers what I said... I launch from 6500 to 7000 rpms, depending on how the track is. Start letting the clutch out so that you're going to start moving and the RPMs won't drop or raise, if they do, modulate the gas and when you think you have good traction let the clutch out quicker (dump it) and floor it. Remember that you need to adjust to the track, it's always different.
If that wasn't clear enough let me know...

[chameleon]

I have a Helical TRD LSD, TRD clutch, and Tom's flywheel.

I launch at 6500 to 7000 with no wheel spin, but I slip my clutch, I don't dump it.

My flywheel will affect the rpms I launch at when compaired to people who are launching with an LSD and stock flywheel. It is harder to break the tires loose with a lighter flywheel.

[spaldam]

How badly does that lightened flywheel effect your low end torque, and ability to keep the engine reved up?

[chameleon]

It doesn't effect it. I can stay on lift during every shift, it is a mod that I highly reccomend to everyone. ;)

[PorkchopSpecblue GT-S]

I have the trd flywheel also and have experienced that it is easier to break tires loose with the flywheel. I don't understand why in your car you're experiencing something different. THe flywheel adds power all through the band, but I can notice it more at lower rpm.

[powercx]

Originally posted by mirconrice




i don't have a LSD.

So you didn't install yours yet? Gene said you had it, but haven't installed it yet. Which one did you have again? I'm thinking of getting one myself.

[mirconrice]

Originally posted by powercx


So you didn't install yours yet? Gene said you had it, but haven't installed it yet. Which one did you have again? I'm thinking of getting one myself.

you're thinking of the wrong person. Its Yves aka Trippin that has the lsd and he is getting it installed as we speak. I wish I had a lsd but no money. He has the TRD LSD helical one.

[REdOX]

I know someone at work that used to have a Type-R that dumped the clutch at 8K in the parking lot at work. Crazy guy... he now owns a BMW. Lucky guy, cashed out his Nortel stock before the big crash... I wish I did that.