GangstaCelicaGT93079
09-30-2005, 05:47 AM
All right you all know I am planning to turbo my car, the problem is which kit to get. I see this question a lot asked on here everyone told me and from what I saw was c2power, but then yesterday I saw a new one which someone mentioned, which is the haas kit. The Haas kit or the c2 power don't know which to choose, maybe you all can help. here are the 2 different letters I have recieved first c2power::
What I suggest is the max power that till cost efficient. Thats st2 turbo kit.
The parts that you will need:
base turbo kit 3590$ but need to specifi you need bigger injectors (550cc) compared the 380cc ones that we suply (price is the same and included in the base price)
wiseco pistons 500$
crower rods 750$
RPS max (blue pressure plate) or similar clutch 390$
You can run this setup safely at 14 psi that is putting you around 280whp (320bhp). I would not go any higher as daily. Please understand that going for any (daily) higher whp numbers will seriously increase your costs.
The setup can support ~330whp and you can use it on your own risk on any higher boost setting.
optional parts
gt28rs turbo+300$
large IC +200$
delivery is usually 1 week after we recieved payment as UPS ships 3-5 days. Shipping of the base kit is 290$ to the US.
For install advices please visit nc.org and ask in the forced induction forum. We are not close ( we are in the EU) enough to advice an installer in your area.
Thanx
All right first of all I won't need the clutch because I am an auto. Now here is the letter I recieved today from Haas:
Our turbo kit for the Celica GT only comes as a "Stage-II" as we only offer the non intercooled system for the MR2 Spyder. The Celica GT kit also comes with the GT28RS turbo which we have run up past 15psi on the stock 1Z...I don't recommend you do that with your car, I am just answering your question about max psi. Basically the turbo can flow more than the engine can hold if you want it too. We are at about 330whp with our shop car. We can also upgrade the turbo to the GT2871R if you plan on building the motor and want to make over 350whp but as it sits the kit will support about 330whp.
For the auto trans I recommend talking to Level10 out of NJ. They can put together a whole package for you. I would not recommend building your trans yourself, take it to someone who knows them inside and out. You CAN install the turbo kit yourself though.
How does our kit compare to the C2 kit? Well, I'm not in a position to point out what's bad in our competition's product so I'll tell you what's "right" in ours.
Our manifold is a thick walled stainless piece and will not crack.
We use 4ply Nomex couplers that will not blow out
We use T-Bolt clamps that will not let go and not cheap worm drive clamps.
We include a full 3" exhaust right off the downpipe all the way to the muffler section so all you have to add is the rear piece for a full 3" system
We use brand new Garrett products and not remanufactured turbos
Our intercooler core is a Blackstone high density unit over 3.5" thick with cast aluminum end tanks like Greddy and HKS use
We use stainless steel braided lines for the water and oil returns
We include brass vacuum tees and not plastic
We use nylon braided vacuum hose instead of cheap rubber that will crack over time
We include EVERYTHING you need right down to the oil filter, spark plugs and RTV to seal the oil pan.
We include 410CC injectors and have upgrades to 630cc
We include the timing and injector harness with the Emanage
That's the meat of it but there's more details than that. I hope that helps you make a decision.
If you would like to order a kit or have more questions, feel free to contact me via email or phone. Thank you again for considering us.
Ok so now you can see what each kit contains both are about the same amount, haas maybe like 300$ less. Which one is better for my $, secondly, has anyone heard any problems with the haas kit?,and anyone who has the haas kit please tell me more, thanks your feed back is appreciated.
What I suggest is the max power that till cost efficient. Thats st2 turbo kit.
The parts that you will need:
base turbo kit 3590$ but need to specifi you need bigger injectors (550cc) compared the 380cc ones that we suply (price is the same and included in the base price)
wiseco pistons 500$
crower rods 750$
RPS max (blue pressure plate) or similar clutch 390$
You can run this setup safely at 14 psi that is putting you around 280whp (320bhp). I would not go any higher as daily. Please understand that going for any (daily) higher whp numbers will seriously increase your costs.
The setup can support ~330whp and you can use it on your own risk on any higher boost setting.
optional parts
gt28rs turbo+300$
large IC +200$
delivery is usually 1 week after we recieved payment as UPS ships 3-5 days. Shipping of the base kit is 290$ to the US.
For install advices please visit nc.org and ask in the forced induction forum. We are not close ( we are in the EU) enough to advice an installer in your area.
Thanx
All right first of all I won't need the clutch because I am an auto. Now here is the letter I recieved today from Haas:
Our turbo kit for the Celica GT only comes as a "Stage-II" as we only offer the non intercooled system for the MR2 Spyder. The Celica GT kit also comes with the GT28RS turbo which we have run up past 15psi on the stock 1Z...I don't recommend you do that with your car, I am just answering your question about max psi. Basically the turbo can flow more than the engine can hold if you want it too. We are at about 330whp with our shop car. We can also upgrade the turbo to the GT2871R if you plan on building the motor and want to make over 350whp but as it sits the kit will support about 330whp.
For the auto trans I recommend talking to Level10 out of NJ. They can put together a whole package for you. I would not recommend building your trans yourself, take it to someone who knows them inside and out. You CAN install the turbo kit yourself though.
How does our kit compare to the C2 kit? Well, I'm not in a position to point out what's bad in our competition's product so I'll tell you what's "right" in ours.
Our manifold is a thick walled stainless piece and will not crack.
We use 4ply Nomex couplers that will not blow out
We use T-Bolt clamps that will not let go and not cheap worm drive clamps.
We include a full 3" exhaust right off the downpipe all the way to the muffler section so all you have to add is the rear piece for a full 3" system
We use brand new Garrett products and not remanufactured turbos
Our intercooler core is a Blackstone high density unit over 3.5" thick with cast aluminum end tanks like Greddy and HKS use
We use stainless steel braided lines for the water and oil returns
We include brass vacuum tees and not plastic
We use nylon braided vacuum hose instead of cheap rubber that will crack over time
We include EVERYTHING you need right down to the oil filter, spark plugs and RTV to seal the oil pan.
We include 410CC injectors and have upgrades to 630cc
We include the timing and injector harness with the Emanage
That's the meat of it but there's more details than that. I hope that helps you make a decision.
If you would like to order a kit or have more questions, feel free to contact me via email or phone. Thank you again for considering us.
Ok so now you can see what each kit contains both are about the same amount, haas maybe like 300$ less. Which one is better for my $, secondly, has anyone heard any problems with the haas kit?,and anyone who has the haas kit please tell me more, thanks your feed back is appreciated.