Rear Camber Kit needed for lowering 2 inches?

[TRD_555]

Does anybody can help me out on this one? I have koni adjustables, and do I really need the rear camber kit? or can I get away with it? I have lowered just 2' inches:confused:

[autxr]

The stock adustment will likely get you to a reasonable number (-1 to -1.5 degrees) of negative camber, so just use the ones Toyota supplied.

Scott

[racinjason]

No don't worry with it. I have my car lowered almost 3 inches on my Tien kit and didn't need any type of camber kits to have it adjusted correctly when I took it to a professional. He had plenty of room to put the camber back to stock specs.

[TRD_555]

thanks guys....
3' is very very low? how do u manage to drive with the TRD pipe?

[Archon_Ninja]

well I don't know about you guys, but when I dropped my car 2"-es with Tanabe springs, my rear wheel bent inward badly... so i got hotchkis chamber links and it fixed it right up...

[nxracer]

Archon_Ninja: Ever try having an alignment done before buying the kit?

Even at the correct settings the rear wheels should be bent, butterflied... in

[Chiznarles]

When i had my wheels aligned at Just Tires.. they said they couldn't adjust the camber. I said well this car's camber can be adjusted, and they said it wasn't possible. They're all pointing to bottom of my car and said "there's nothing here we can adjust, you have to buy a camber kit."

[nxracer]

The key words here are "Just Tires"

Any "good" alignment shop (probably not Just Tires, Pepboys, NTB, etc.) should be able to adjust the rear suspension. If you cannot find a "real" alignment shop in your area at least let Toyota do it. The shop that does all my work has been in the alignment business for well over 25 years (I've been going there at least twice a year since 1988). When I brought the Celica in for it's first alignment I put the service manual in the trunk "just in case", well Jim looked at the rear end and said no problem, by the way it was the first 00+ Celica he had ever seen and the service manual was never opened.

When it comes to alignments you get what you pay for. Pay $39.95 and you get close, well maybe. On average I pay $100 at least twice a year, once in the spring before racing season (usually costs more) and once after the season to remove some of the toe out.

Once again a camber kit is NOT required but a good alignment shop is

[Brett]

I have the Tanabes. Got an alignment and its not nearly as bad as it use to be. Its just slightly bending in. Which is cool.

[racinjason]

That's the way it should be Brett. Just a little negative camber. And yes the factory front and rear can be adjusted. Camber, toe, all that. The rear more than the front. If they check it out and say it can't be then I would never take another vehicle to them again cause they have no clue as to what they are doing. Hell the first day I bought the car I looked at the suspension in the back and could see right away that it can be adjusted.

I sugest taking it to a profession alignment center. These guys will easily do the best job.

[Ridin13]

Hey TRD_555,
How much were your Koni adjustables?

[TRD_555]

I got them from tirerack.com, check it out...
btw, thanks for all the help guys

[2kcelicaGT]

when i got my GC coilovers, and lowered it about 2", my back tires were bending in quite a bit, but they said they could fix that just by using what was on the car stock, however, they wanted me to get a camber kit for the front wheels which to me, didn't look bent in at all...they said the front tires would wear unevenly if i didn't...now, my front tires still look fine, and back in bending in again...which they say it should a little b/c supposidly, when ppl get in the car, the weight actually pushes the wheels to bend back out and therefore be level with the ground, more surface area which is what you want, i gotta wonder if it was some BS he told me, cause it took him like an hour and a half to do the back part, and i don't think he could have made it look normal if he tried, so he might have made up that story just to make me happy, what do you think?

[Archon_Ninja]

Originally posted by nxracer
Archon_Ninja: Ever try having an alignment done before buying the kit?

Even at the correct settings the rear wheels should be bent, butterflied... in

yeah guess i should have tried that first... i did know that it was suppose to bend inward in the rear a lil bit, but didn't know the stock chamber plates could fix that a lil more without a kit...:mad: geez that would have saved me 200 dollars....

[nxracer]

2kcelicaGT: There are camber kits for the front too. BUT unless you plan to adjust it weekly they are really not worth the money. Once again this is where a good alignment shop comes in. The shop can grind the struts or replace the bolts with ones that a just a little bit smaller, Toyota even has part numbers for these bolts. I race in SCCA's "stock" class so I have to use the Toyota bolts but if your not into autocross (the springs move you out of stock anyway) just save some money and have them open up the strut holes a bit.

I doubt the front changed very much, you probably got (if your lucky) .5 degrees more and thats a good thing. Negative camber (or butterfly or bent in...) will make the car handle much better. I run a little over 2 degrees of negative camber in the front and -1.5 in the back. Guess what my original tires (RE-92's) have over 38,000 miles on them and still look good, warn but not overly worn on the inside edges. If I didn't have a "free" set of BFG's in the garage I could probably get another 5,000 out of them.

[QWKsilvr808]

yep - my uncle owns an alignment shop with a laser alignment rack. It was no prob at all to get mine back to spec, just takes a little effort. Any shop that tells you it can't be done isn't worth the time. The ONLY prob we had was getting the car on and off the rack carefully. :)

[nxracer]

My place still uses a pit rack so lowered cars are NO problem.