Buying a car From Japan *Insight PLEASE *

[KEnny Heiser 3]

Buying a Car from Japan , INSIGHT PLEASE

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I'm just gonna make this quick and simple ..

I have a unknown source I am connected with is very intrested Importing a rare JDM car ...

The finacing is their and they are seroius ,but anything import and tuner market is completelly new to them ...

Thats were Me and NC.org comes in . I need suggestion's on something that would be worthwhile to import .

To get down to the Nitty Gritty ... The Buyer of the car would like to make a FULL carbon Fiber Body for it . I mean EVERYTHING In full race Dry infused CF ,Like this GT3 CF Porshe Widebody . The place doing the CF work, actually produce all these porshe Cf parts . They did the full design/clay modeling work of the widebody kit . Absolutelly EVERY panel is made in CF ,of the highest quality >>>> http://www.kellymoss.com/pages/RaceDept/flaminwoody.htm

Give me some GOOD JDM cars that would be worth inmporting ,And information or things you may know about Importing from Japan .

The Buyer plans on Going to Japan and Picking the car up themself , NO IMPORTER SERVICE will be used ....

Please PM or email me at khavenger@tds.net if you have any Connections into Japan and Professional insight ....


I was thing a silvia , or skyline . The silvia because of US and Japan market ,plus the drift scene . The Skyline Because ,anyone that own's one can afford the CF body parts .Please let me know any information on buying prices in japan ,& then turnaround US market cost ...

Sinc:Kennt Heiser

[Crizzz]

wow, that sounds awesome! sorreh, i dont have any useful info, but i just had to say.
I think the S15 and Skyline are great choices. Skyline has already been done though, by Power House Amuse in Japan. What model Skyline are they thinking of? personally i like the R32.

[VVTi_pNoY]

I say R34 all the way. The silvia isnt bad either.

[silverCELICAgt-s]

didnt they make the supras till like 2002 in japan. I say the last year of the supra from japan with the lowest mileage u can find!!!

[redline18]

a supra and a R34 would both be awesome. a sylvia wouldn't be bad at all either. i would say a NSX but they have a full carbon kit of that too.

[silverCELICAgt-s]

seibon also makes full carbon fiber stuff for the supra as well.

[oONoGoAutoOo]

if u need info on importing a car from japan, PM se168us
he was in the midst of importing a r34 from japan, and knows alot about this matter.

[Auto[BoT]_GTS]

Nsx-r

[lilcoop_69]

R34!!!!!!

[hombredelassrta]

r34 woudl be sweet but there is allot of issues with importing. I would also suggest contacting simon becsaue he did have 1st hand experience in the matter. silvia is also a great choice

[Archer2KGTS]

R32, 2000 supra, Fairlady Z

[superman1240]

pulsar sunny GTI-R :)

[evil eye]

R34 or '99 Silvia. :)

[air540boarder]

pulsar sunny GTI-R :)

i have one... took a long ass mother f*cking time to get it in... and u hafta be really careful... ... ... really careful... or customs'll have your ass... seen too many guys lose their cars to the crushers :confused: anyway my sunny rules i'd reccommend it... :crazy2:

lee


if you need me i'm on AIM at: AIR540BOARDER .. questions welcome

[evil eye]

^ Why you have to be really careful?

[BaLLnFoShO]

^ Why you have to be really careful?

yes insight please. is it cause of the safety issue?

[redlinee46s3]

Import a Celica :chuckles:

[Carbonized_GT]

A AE86 Levin!!! ha something more exotic.... Toyota 2000GT, Nismo 400R...or if you want super rare...go for a TomiKaira R or RR . Or you can bribe HKS into letting them sell you a Zero-R possibly the rarest skyline...i think only 20 were made...its an R32 sold in dealers customized by HKS 500hp i believe...

[SickCelica696]

I'm just gonna make this quick and simple ..

I have a unknown source I am connected with is very intrested Importing a rare JDM car ...


Your one sketchy ass mofo. :chuckles:



If I was gonna import a car I'd go Silvia, if you want a good car for body kit, I'd pick up a new Altezza. Something along those lines, but it depends on what your "source" is going to pay. If you want to get a R34 GT-R to the USA and get it legalized its a little over $160,000. You could get most other cars over here for 1/8 of that. Or go more off the norm and get a soarer or something

[silv3r0ne]

I'd go with the s15

[SLOWICA]

S15... I only know of 6 in the U.S....

[SLOWICA]

Go with the S15... I only know of 6 in the U.S.

[RJAY]

I say go with an S15 or an R33

[-[ez]-]

i'm so glad i live in australia....

I'm with the rest, S15 or R34. or even series8 RX7 unless u got those there already??

im not too keen on the 34, but i guess u guys would be hehe

[BHam00GT-S]

R34, S-15, NSX-R, or wait until the new body style skyline comes through... get the 350Z motor TT, 4WD. Cheaper: Trueno

[T3HKMAN]

Why bother getting anything that is already over here even if it is RHD? Skyline R34 or Silvia if you want to be exclusive.

As far as the customs issue is you better have seriously deep pockets if you are going to try to bring in a car without a legal importer or being in the military. Before I got the Celica I did the research on importing a JDM 93 Prelude SI. I live minutes from DC and spoke directly to the people in charge at the DOT. The guy with the Sunny GTI, Air540boarder is right, you really need to know what you are doing otherwise just kiss your money goodbye when Customs smashes your car.

[superman1240]

Air540boarder show some pics :)

[SickCelica696]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-Nissan-Skyline-R33-GTS-T-Legal-Motorex-Car_W0QQitemZ4577962663QQcategoryZ6392QQcmdZViewIt em


There ya go, just get an already legalized one

[surge21]

ooookay guys...
Well first of all I'm 99.99% positive that theres no way to import a skyline into the U.S. if it hasn't been done already. The reason being, D.O.T. is very strict on allowing gray market vehicles to enter the United States without meeting their standards, which range from smog and emissions, to crash test ratings. The ONLY company that can LEGALLY import a skyline here would be Motorex...BUT they recently went out of business. Wait...I contradict my statement that you can't do it, theres always a way, but it would require you to purchase two, three, or possibly more IDENTICAL skylines and import them here, then you would have to pay for their emissions testing for all of them, then they would crash one of them in their safety test (which you also have to pay for) and they'll totally wreck that car to see if it passes the safety ratings, and if it doesnt or if there's an error, then they have to have another test car to try it on before they can approve its safety rating (why you have to buy more than one skyline). Usually the cars passes the smog testing to some degree and then you have to spend big bucks to make it conform 100% to their standards. After that, the department of motor vehicles is going to give you a hella hard time to register your car, and if you manage to do that, then good luck finding a company that'll insure you. After you've spent like $100,000+ to do all of this, then you can bring over ONE car and even then they may ask you to detune it to make it street legal. See the thing is if you want to import a JDM car here and they sell the car in the states as well, you have to go through a LOT less hassle, but since we got gypped and have no skylines here its just a pain in the butt. There are loopholes and ways around things, like using your car for show only use or racing purposes...but thats a whole nother chapter...sorry if this was boring, I just wanted to let you guys know why a skyline wasn't really feesable to bring over, the reason I know what I do is because I was trying to get one a year or so ago and did a HUGE amount of research...one of my favorite cars... but i guess its staying in Japan, at least for now. I'd recommend a newer Supra or RX7 but then again if they werent produced that year in the USDM then you have to do all that testing stuff again, so beware. Go with a nice 97 Supra TT or a 3000GT VR-4 imo...hope i helped

~Surge

[SickCelica696]

Ok most of the stuff you said above wasn't true. You can legally import skylines, if they are from september 1990 or earlier. They have to be 15yrs old to be imported. Motorex does all of this but im pretty sure they're not having too much business. They've gone through every hoop and jump through of the US govt. They stay RHD, the rb26's are not detuned. They add in all the costs, usually $40k for brokerage,title,tax,and us conversions. They change the exhaust system and put in US spec gauges. So if you want a skyline you have to go through Motorex. I don't know about anything else. But in 2014 I'm bringing myself over a R34 gt-r. I'll have the $100k for it by then

[T3HKMAN]

Umm actually everything Surge21 said was 100% true.

If you read his post he mentioned the only company that's actually paid the cost to legally import, modify to U.S. safety specifications, and then sell Skylines is Motorex. He knows what he's talking about because I was told the same thing from the appropriate officials working for the DOT face to face.

[canton_ph34r]

I've met the girlfriend of a guy who headed Motorex and she drove 2 different R34 GT-R's I even got to sit in it (not while moving though).

Anyway I believe the R34's arent OBD-II compliant.

[action]

I say go with an S15 or an R33

ditto, i agree with these two cars, my friend imported a S15 into New York in white. He loves the right hand drive cars. I wish i had extra cash to make mine a right hand drive car

[gqsean124]

silvia y0!

[canton_ph34r]

S15 for sure, UI love those sexy machines

[sheizen]

if the skyline has already been crashed tested by motorex before then you wouldnt have a problem bringing another one over seas. that certain car has to be crash tested once and the people after it get a free ride.

[SickCelica696]

if you want RHD just buy a used mail truck

[canton_ph34r]

Lol

[T3HKMAN]

if the skyline has already been crashed tested by motorex before then you wouldnt have a problem bringing another one over seas. that certain car has to be crash tested once and the people after it get a free ride.

No, No it's not that simple the U.S. Gov is not going to let everyone else get a free ride off of someone elses hard work. The following is face to face information straight from the appropriate officials from the main downtown Washington D.C. DOT building. Ahem.

First you have to be an approved DOT crash test facility, crash the cars (four to be exact, hit them from the front, both sides, and rear which is the reason for four) and then modify them to comply with US safety specifications and emissions laws. Skylines and all Jap cars don't have the side impact beams that the U.S. now requires. All things that Motorex has done or will do to the vehicle in question which is why they are the only ones allowed by law to import Skylines.

They were also kind enough to tell me that the real reason for these laws is to prevent the rampant purchasing of low mileage Japanese vehicles by US consumers. As most of you know since space is limited in Japan they have very stiff taxes when it comes to cars. Then main law says something to the effect of if your car has more than 28,000 km on it then it costs you an extra 1,000 bucks U.S. to just keep your car per year.

So they sell them for parts or just junk them out which is why there are so many nice ass cars in Japanese junkyards. So it's not as much for safety as the Gov would know what would happen if like new cars with around 20k were available for practically nothing.

Think about it, it's not just us import freaks what if you could get like a pristine Corolla with 22k for like 2Gs?

Exactly. Kiss the US auto market goodbye, you gotta understand that over in Japan used R32s are like 4,000 on the average in good condition.

[TRD-CELICA-GT02]

Get a the last production model Supra or an R34. Even more interesting a Toyota AE86 Levin.

[canton_ph34r]

Why bother with the AE86? It's not that great a car that its worth importing, you could just buy one here for whatever asking price the seller may ridiculously ask and still save money from importing

[sheizen]

First you have to be an approved DOT crash test facility, crash the cars (four to be exact, hit them from the front, both sides, and rear which is the reason for four) and then modify them to comply with US safety specifications and emissions laws. Skylines and all Jap cars don't have the side impact beams that the U.S. now requires. All things that Motorex has done or will do to the vehicle in question which is why they are the only ones allowed by law to import Skylines.


what iam trying to say is that since motorex has crash tested the r34 already if someone else wants to import one here, they dont need to crash test another 4 cars to import 1 car that has already been crash tested many times before. the data is already in DOT's computer and they dont need another 4 cars to test.

there was a huge article in a magzine about importing cars, i will try to find it and scan it on this thread.

[T3HKMAN]

Don't bother, Sheizen if that was your point then we are on the same page but besides the crash testing only Motorex are allowed to legally import Skylines for road use because they have proven that they can convert them to US specs.

Anyway enough about that, to get back on point the only thing worth importing IMO is something that you really can't replicate through conversion or other wise and the only thing now is a Skyline.

C'mon it's the only car that even in fairly crappy condition you go, "Even still it's a Skyline".