Battle of the Short-Ram (Injen vs Blitz) (PICS!!!)

[REdOX]

As the topic sayz... post your reviews cuz I'm looking at both and would like to know your thoughts on it.

BLITZ
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INJEN
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[REdOX]

TTT

[Jake_VVTL-i]

I have the blitz SUS. Wouldn't recommend it if you have auto gts. I had to relocate my trans. dipstick because the intake was rubbing on it. I love the sound though. Made my exhaust sound a lot better too.

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TRD Extended Exhaust
Blitz SUS Intake
15% Tint
S2000 Antenna
Painted Calipers

[REdOX]

Looks like it would be pretty susceptable to heat soak being so close.. but then again the injen one isn't much farther away.

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[id242]

Originally posted by REdOX:
P.S. Pics from http://www.teamunison.com thanks!


no problem... i just hope we dont run up another $400 bill for our bandwidth, a second month in a row.

btw - the red injen intake is protoolskid's engine.... very nice http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smile.gif I WANT!!!
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[Uncle Ben's White Rice]

I got the Injen and I put the Rod Millen heat shield on with it. I love it!

[HilfigerCelica]

I wouldn't get the Blitz if I were you. Someone a while back posted a review between the Blitz, Apexi, K&N, and HKS filters. And the Blitz and HKS did very poorly. Look at the tube on the Blitz, it's like a little nub. Looks like heat soak is going to be a bigger problem to me. That's my $.02

[J3adSeed]

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[pinoyracer]

Look at the tube on the Blitz, it's like a little nub. Looks like heat soak is going to be a bigger problem to me. That's my $.02


<IMG SRC="http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smilies/cwm13.gif" border=0> Uhhh they are both short ram intake, u can't do anything about it, it will still suck heat inside the engine bay.

I have the Blitz Metal Mesh SUS intake, I talked to one of the representatives in thermal flex about changing that rubber tube intake pipe into a Silicone one, I guess I will be shipping my blitz intake to them so they could measure it and send me back a proto type. I guess it's back to the old stock air box to me.

[Shortchange14]

Ingen all the way baby!

[CeliRacer]

The injen looks better IMO.

[Grinder]

I'll sell you my Injen CAI for $190.00 if you want. It's never been used and still in the box. I'm also selling my 5Zigen cat back exhaust for $430.00 still inthe box.

[Speedy2kCelica]

The Injen CAI (racing Version) Is the best Intake for our car, AEM also makes a good one but I would rather go with InJen, It looks good in the Blue!

[Kinezo]

Originally posted by HilfigerCelica
I wouldn't get the Blitz if I were you. Someone a while back posted a review between the Blitz, Apexi, K&N, and HKS filters. And the Blitz and HKS did very poorly..

The blitz in question was the SUS core (metal filter) and the test wasn't conducted with the LM core (paper filter)

[ProToolsKid]

That's awesome I haven't seen that pic in a while. I cleaned up a few things since then so my engine looks a little better now IMHO, But thanks for the compliments anyway.
my .02 though I'm thinking about getting the reactive airfilter W/ the heatshield and putting it on my intake then on the tip of the heatshield I can clamp another tube down to it and direct it to the same location as the CAI to get cold air and when it rains I can disconnect it from the filter easily for a safe short ram.
Injen doesn't have problems W/ CEL unless the MAS isn't tightened down properly. Injen spent the time to place the MAS in the proper spot to get an accurate reading where other Co's just put them in there.

[Jake_VVTL-i]

Hey pinoyracer, hook me up with that number, or email me about changing that rubber piece to silicon. Thanx

[celica gte racing]

the length of the tubing of the injen shows how inexperienced they are compared to blitz. a longer tubing not only reduces overall power, it will decrease in throttle response, engine elasticity and many other variables.

IMHO there is nothing dumber than making ur engine bay look good, that should be secondary. sure, its nice to have a nice enginebay, but come on, its like decorating the closet...

my personal philosophy on so called "show cars" is that looking "good" in our context means looking fast/quick, because looking fast is looking good. but in that sense its just a pretentious way to make your car look like something its not... unless you goldplate the car and take "real" stylistic modifications to your car. hence, apr wings, giant stickers, 18' rims, are a no no by my book, unless you have the power to accompaign it. thats why i keep my celi moderately modified esthetically, but i'd love to be much quicker than i look like. hehe and trubo is on my agenda...

of course, its not for me to decide what u do to your celica, and i fully respect it, i am just giving my opinion (even though u didn't as for it :D). any mature comments are welcome.

[ProToolsKid]

Originally posted by celica gte racing
the length of the tubing of the injen shows how inexperienced they are compared to blitz. a longer tubing not only reduces overall power, it will decrease in throttle response, engine elasticity and many other variables.

IMHO there is nothing dumber than making ur engine bay look good, that should be secondary. sure, its nice to have a nice enginebay, but come on, its like decorating the closet...

my personal philosophy on so called "show cars" is that looking "good" in our context means looking fast/quick, because looking fast is looking good. but in that sense its just a pretentious way to make your car look like something its not... unless you goldplate the car and take "real" stylistic modifications to your car. hence, apr wings, giant stickers, 18' rims, are a no no by my book, unless you have the power to accompaign it. thats why i keep my celi moderately modified esthetically, but i'd love to be much quicker than i look like. hehe and trubo is on my agenda...

of course, its not for me to decide what u do to your celica, and i fully respect it, i am just giving my opinion (even though u didn't as for it :D). any mature comments are welcome.

Uhh, Yeah thanks for the put down! You do things your way and I'll do things my way. And to think you ask for a mature comment after that BS.

[id242]

Originally posted by celica gte racing
IMHO there is nothing dumber than making ur engine bay look good, that should be secondary. Sure, its nice to have a nice engine bay, but come on, its like decorating the closet...
um... the people who dress up their engines have a reason for doing so - 1, it makes the car look good - 2, when you need someone to work on your car, they will respect the care for your vehicle as much as you do... and thus will treat your car better - 3, it maintains value because the bay is cleaner then a junked up DIRTY bay.... and finally - 4, its easier to work on a clean engine than it is to work on a dirty engine

Originally posted by celica gte racing
my personal philosophy on so called "show cars" is that looking "good" in our context means looking fast/quick, because looking fast is looking good. but in that sense its just a pretentious way to make your car look like something its not... unless you goldplate the car and take "real" stylistic modifications to your car. hence, apr wings, giant stickers, 18' rims, are a no no by my book, unless you have the power to accompaign it. thats why i keep my celi moderately modified esthetically, but i'd love to be much quicker than i look like. hehe and trubo is on my agenda...
Then why did you buy a Celica??? the car was obviously advertised as "LOOKS fast"... I don

[ProToolsKid]

So why would you consider this Ugly or pointless? Oh I understand UR jealous
http://www.simpletoast.com/josiah/celica_pics/Celica%20Pics%2010-30-01/HotchkisPics2/Engine2.JPG
http://www.simpletoast.com/josiah/celica_pics/Celica%20Pics%2010-30-01/HotchkisPics2/Engine1.JPG%20copy

[CelicaSportzGT]

i want ur car protoolskid...how do you think that engine bay would look on a blue celi? and how much did you pay total to make it look like that? also love the veilside kit...

[ProToolsKid]

Originally posted by CelicaSportzGT
i want ur car protoolskid...how do you think that engine bay would look on a blue celi? and how much did you pay total to make it look like that? also love the veilside kit...
Professional Paint for plastics.
$150
Braiding and hardware.
$60
Red Wireloom, Ties and tape.
$40
16 hrs total Time spent under the hood installing.
$0
Hotchkis Camberplates.
$375
People checking out the engine at Shows.
Priceless

IMHO It would look good on a blue celica but that is your decision.
Thanks for the compliments.

[celica gte racing]

Originally posted by id242

um... the people who dress up their engines have a reason for doing so - 1, it makes the car look good - 2, when you need someone to work on your car, they will respect the care for your vehicle as much as you do... and thus will treat your car better - 3, it maintains value because the bay is cleaner then a junked up DIRTY bay.... and finally - 4, its easier to work on a clean engine than it is to work on a dirty engine


i didn't say i didn't like a clean engine bay, i said all those colors and stickers are unnecessary. I clean my engine bay too. also i think a clean stock enginebay would get a better respect from the authorities than those flashy ones.

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Then why did you buy a Celica??? the car was obviously advertised as "LOOKS fast"... I don

[id242]

celica gte racing: very good points!
(BTW: i knew there was someone from over seas on this board... i just fergot it was you... so sarry man - I would have never come back at you the way I did, if I had known this....)

Stuff here in america is very inexspensive! (im from canada myself... so when I get down here and see all the prices and I end up taking home just about double the $$$ in paycheck.... I go all buck-wyld! - like winning the lotto or sometin!)

hehehehee....
its all good (most of it)

[DigableGTS]

ProTools - ur car looks dope. u shouldn't be too touchy about one persons opinion.

CelciaGTE - U bring up some valid points as well, I 'try' for 'go' 1st b4 show but it's hard sometimes :)

But hey, you guys are from different cultures and have different opinions, there's nothing wrong with that. take the comments and critisicims (spelling) and move on

[ProToolsKid]

I didn't get upset Honestly I don't care that he is all about noshow.

[REdOX]

Originally posted by celica gte racing
the length of the tubing of the injen shows how inexperienced they are compared to blitz. a longer tubing not only reduces overall power, it will decrease in throttle response, engine elasticity and many other variables.

Shorter pipe = more heatsoak when staging. Maybe Injen was trying to take that into account?

[celica gte racing]

Originally posted by REdOX


Shorter pipe = more heatsoak when staging. Maybe Injen was trying to take that into account?

if you look at the position of the actual intakes i would say the injen not only has a longer tubing but actually more vunerable to heat soak by the way the intake is placed horizontally IMO.

[1zzfe]

so... which one should be a better intake for the GT..... i was thinking about the injen short ram... but seems like the Blitz is pretty good too.... few question...

i've the AEM too... which intake will give you the power gain close to the AEM... and howbout the sound...also... i don't have any problem with the AEM... which one the injen or the Blitz is more safe... and which one is a better quality intake...

thank you...

[celica gte racing]

Originally posted by 1zzfe
so... which one should be a better intake for the GT..... i was thinking about the injen short ram... but seems like the Blitz is pretty good too.... few question...

i've the AEM too... which intake will give you the power gain close to the AEM... and howbout the sound...also... i don't have any problem with the AEM... which one the injen or the Blitz is more safe... and which one is a better quality intake...

thank you...

well quality wise, you can't beat a blitz. powerwise, the blitz is amoung the top. filtrationwise, some tests indicate that the last gen sus power is not good, but i don't know about the injen or aem or the new blitz lm.