After Years Of Searching, I Believe I've Found The Best H7 Bulb!

[Blue Bomber]

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html

65W Osram Ultra High Output (2100 lumen, H9 burner on H7 base, race and special-purpose use): $24.00/ea The highest I've seen H7 bulbs tested at is 1500 lumens (average is around 1400; ricer bulbs even lower). H9s have a brighter output, so an H7/H9 hybrid would have the same high output in a size we can use. A 29% increase in output compared to the best H7s out there! :thumbup:

[booyaolian]

is 65W safe for our car?

[Blue Bomber]

is 65W safe for our car?
Yeah, it's only till you get around 80W that weird things start happening. Some people don't even have problems with 100W, but I'd think that it's more of their cheap bulbs not even drawing that much power in the first place.

If you want even MORE light, you can get an upgrade harness from SUVLights.com, which uses upgraded wiring, a fuse, and a relay to eliminate harness damage. It completely bypasses the stock harness as a power source, using power straight from the battery instead (fused connection for safety), and only uses the stock wiring for the on/off signal.

[booyaolian]

i dont see the "click to order now" button on that website. :scared:

[Blue Bomber]

Email link at the bottom of the page:

products@danielsternlighting.com
Subject: Automotive Lighting Products

;)

[krazeazn]

nice find BB :thumbup:

[vindiCAtor]

yea good work. Will def pick up a set after mine go out.

[hawaiianboy]

I wish there were pics of it:(
But it sounds good:)

[booyaolian]

i so want to try these out, but i bought a set of silverstar last week.

this sucks.

[Blue Bomber]

i so want to try these out, but i bought a set of silverstar last week.

this sucks.Silverstars don't last long, anyway. :gap: I wish there were pics of it:(
But it sounds good:)
H7:
http://dsl.torque.net/images/H7.jpg

H9:
http://dsl.torque.net/images/H9.jpg

Not much difference between the bulb part, so the hybrid would look very similar to a regular H7.

[hawaiianboy]

lol pics of it installed and how bright it is at night......lol

[Blue Bomber]

lol pics of it installed and how bright it is at night......lol
Good luck. ;)

[rotchcrocket04]

did ya order them yet chris?

[LEDmod]

H9 looks like 9006

[Blue Bomber]

did ya order them yet chris?
The irony is, now I don't need them. :p:

[GT 01]

The irony is, now I don't need them. :p:

Why not?

Any idea if these will have a bright white look to them? I guess it doesn't really matter if you'll be getting a 40% increase in light.

[LEDmod]

I've doubt it....

[Blue Bomber]

The irony is, now I don't need them. :p:Why not?Oh, you'll see. :eatpop:Any idea if these will have a bright white look to them? I guess it doesn't really matter if you'll be getting a 40% increase in light. They'll be brighter/whiter than stock, but not white like HID or ricer bulbs.

[emotart]

I put 20.00 that his getting these...
http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/1298908_-_D2S_conversion_2.JPG :eatpop:

[Blue Bomber]

I put 20.00 that his getting these...
http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/1298908_-_D2S_conversion_2.JPG :eatpop:
Nope. :p: No HIDs for me till at least the middle of next year.

[emotart]

ah i lost lol... so no Hids, No Other bulbs....

Hmm Led converson?

[evil eye]

Hmm Led converson?


:chuckles:

[Blue Bomber]

ah i lost lol... so no Hids, No Other bulbs....

Hmm Led converson? On my radio, yeah. ;) Hmm Led converson? :chuckles: :D

[emotart]

pretty cool :o) good luck with that man.... I was gunna do the same thing down the road tell me how it goes i was planning on using a bulb like this.....

http://www.globalpremier.com/ledlight/ledlight-sample.jpg

:eatpop:

[Blue Bomber]

pretty cool :o) good luck with that man.... I was gunna do the same thing down the road tell me how it goes i was planning on using a bulb like this.....

http://www.globalpremier.com/ledlight/ledlight-sample.jpg

:eatpop:
In your radio? :confused:

[emotart]

No the bulb is pretty big... I was gunna try to figure out a way to get the bulb to work in the celica HEAdlamp housing...

Nope as a headlight bulb... But i would want to find out the Light Rating im lumens and ect before i figure out what im going to do...

[Blue Bomber]

No the bulb is pretty big... I was gunna try to figure out a way to get the bulb to work in the celica HEAdlamp housing...
Ah, as a parking light or turn signal?

[jst07]

Good price on those too. What do you think of those compared to Hoen bulbs? Would The ones you posted or the Hoens burn out often?

http://www.hoen-usa.com/ti.htm

[emotart]

Ah, as a parking light or turn signal?

No as a regular Headlight Bulb... But Using a LED bulb and making a haranass so it fits....

[Blue Bomber]

Good price on those too. What do you think of those compared to Hoen bulbs? Would The ones you posted or the Hoens burn out often?

http://www.hoen-usa.com/ti.htm
If they only have a 12% increase in lumens, the ones I posted are definitely righter. The hybrids should last as long as OEM, too, since they're not a ricer bulb or +50% bulb, either (normal filament). Ah, as a parking light or turn signal?

No as a regular Headlight Bulb... But Using a LED bulb and making a haranass so it fits....
You do realize that regular ones are nowhere near as bright as even the average incandescent light bulb, right? You'd need some Luxeon LEDs, which aren't cheap. Even then, they're only around 200 lumens max per LED...

[aerospike2002]

You do realize that regular ones are nowhere near as bright as even the average incandescent light bulb, right? You'd need some Luxeon LEDs, which aren't cheap. Even then, they're only around 200 lumens max per LED...


This is true...I ordered LED sidemarkers and was quite disappointed in the brightness result compared to the incandescent bulbs. They look VERY bright in the pics (as the one posted above), but in real-life situations, they are not. Plus, the light is too focused and doesn't spread enough for a nice illumination of the sidemarkers.

[LEDmod]

This is true...I ordered LED sidemarkers and was quite disappointed in the brightness result compared to the incandescent bulbs. They look VERY bright in the pics (as the one posted above), but in real-life situations, they are not. Plus, the light is too focused and doesn't spread enough for a nice illumination of the sidemarkers.

I've got some new LED sidemarker and parking light, they are so much more illuminationg then my older LED bulbs....

My older one on left side, and new on the on the right...
Alot of LED bulbs for the parking light or side market are usually focuse...
Both of mine are wide angle, newone has multiple direction LED that helps more illumination especially on the headlight...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b284/seanyiya/IMG_0779.jpg

[Gas-n-Grease]

Plus, the light is too focused and doesn't spread enough
i second that..

[LEDmod]

Plus, the light is too focused and doesn't spread enough
i second that..

Not all the LED lighting is focused.... look at the picture above your post...

[evil eye]

How much are those wide angled ones Dooly? I would need a set of 194's (hyper white) for my headlamps, and 7440 (amber) for my rear turnsignals. :)

[LEDmod]

How much are those wide angled ones Dooly? I would need a set of 194's (hyper white) for my headlamps, and 7440 (amber) for my rear turnsignals. :)

It's more of what multiple wide angle LED...
I'll get you better price once I get some more....
Just wait little bit.. once I test out some more of the new improve LED bulbs, I'll run a group buy on it...
I've order some more LEDs today so I'll get them by end of the week..
I have some more picture of them in different colors....
I haven't tested out all of them yet....
I'll keep an update...

[evil eye]

Cool, PM or IM me when you get an update.

[rotchcrocket04]

Just wait little bit.. once I test out some more of the new improve LED bulbs, I'll run a group buy on it...


:thumbup:

[pfcnguyen]

my friend has got a 2001 corolla..her lights are really white..not HID bright..but still white..but everything is stock. There is a very big difference compared to the celica halogens. Did toyota make a better wiring harness or somthing? She bouught i back in 2000 and never did anything to it. Are these the same kind of bulbs that came with her car.

[Blue Bomber]

my friend has got a 2001 corolla..her lights are really white..not HID bright..but still white..but everything is stock. There is a very big difference compared to the celica halogens. Did toyota make a better wiring harness or somthing? She bouught i back in 2000 and never did anything to it. Are these the same kind of bulbs that came with her car.
They don't have projectors like the Celica, they have reflectors. Not sure which bulb, though, but the wiring wouldn't have that much of an effect on output that early in its life. I've seen Hyundais (maybe Sonatas) that have VERY white stock lights, but they're still halogens (not blinding like HIDs ;) ). All depends on the design of the projector/reflector.

[rotchcrocket04]

So Chris... do you honestly think its worth the money to order these bulbs? I dont plan on getting HID's anytime within the next few years... sooooo?

[Blue Bomber]

So Chris... do you honestly think its worth the money to order these bulbs? I dont plan on getting HID's anytime within the next few years... sooooo?
Without a doubt. H9s are rated at 2100 normally, so this isn't some sort of gimmick. You really will get more light on the road, more than any H7 is capable of.

[lilcoop_69]

what about h-3s for the fogs???

[Blue Bomber]

Regular Philips and Sylvania H3s are fine. If you want yellow, I believe they both sell yellow/gold versions, or you can get yellow capsules to put over the bulbs.

[lilcoop_69]

... Nice... i wanted some bright ones to match my HIDs when i get them and I thought PIAA were real good too... any opinions on them?

[LEDmod]

... Nice... i wanted some bright ones to match my HIDs when i get them and I thought PIAA were real good too... any opinions on them?

There is no filament base bulb that can match HID color.....
If you want to match the HID, you have to get white LED bulbs....

[Chelica]

Nice find Blue

[Blue Bomber]

... Nice... i wanted some bright ones to match my HIDs when i get them and I thought PIAA were real good too... any opinions on them?
Don't waste your money. They're cheaply made and burn out fast.

[lilcoop_69]

i c... thankx.. yeah, when i get my silverstars i was disappointed after they burned out in like 4 months compared to my stocks that have lasted for about 4 yrs.... :werd:

[Pulsar1]

i c... thankx.. yeah, when i get my silverstars i was disappointed after they burned out in like 4 months compared to my stocks that have lasted for about 4 yrs.... :werd:
Really I've had them in my old car for about two years so far and in my mothers Libery for little over a year now...

[Blue Bomber]

Anywhere you go, you see complaints about the Silverstars' short lifespan. Sylvania themselves admit they have a lifespan that's less than half of their normal bulbs.

[ZBoyce]

I'm going to order these soon, a headlight just went out.

[LEDmod]

My friend's PIAA was no better then my $30 hyper headlight bulb.....
He got it from his girlfriend that bought it from Japan for like $100....

[cesar418]

I was wonderin what kind of headlights are the ones that have holes in the metal parts of the headlights and come painted already?? and where can i get them at and for how much if you now thanks you very much!!!

Nope. :p: No HIDs for me till at least the middle of next year.

[LEDmod]

One with holes are HID stock headlight from 03+
04 or 05 Action package comes with painted inside... I believe that doesn't come with HID option....

[Blue Bomber]

One with holes are HID stock headlight from 03+
04 or 05 Action package comes with painted inside... I believe that doesn't come with HID option....
:werd:
Only place to get them is at the dealership, and expect to pay a hefty price tag (especially on the HID housings).

[SickCelica696]

Anywhere you go, you see complaints about the Silverstars' short lifespan. Sylvania themselves admit they have a lifespan that's less than half of their normal bulbs.

Damn I got my silverstars in febuary and their still going strong, and I use my headlights all the time during the day too. Guess some ppl get lucky

[BaLLnFoShO]

Hey nice find. Sorry but i dont really know about lighting so will these be like a plug and play for our headlight blubs?

[Blue Bomber]

Hey nice find. Sorry but i dont really know about lighting so will these be like a plug and play for our headlight blubs?
Yup, they retain the H7 base, so they're as plug and play as our stock bulbs.

[ryizzle]

any1 order from theese guys yet? im either goin here or piaa, but dont really feal like being the guinea pig :P

[Blue Bomber]

any1 order from theese guys yet? im either goin here or piaa, but dont really feal like being the guinea pig :P
These will last 3x+ longer than PIAAs, and will let you see in the rain. ;) Hell, you're better off getting regular H7 bulbs instead of PIAAs. :rolleyes:

[rotchcrocket04]

i believe im gonna order these tonight or tomorrow... when i get them ill post pics :thumbup:


i trust Chris' word though... he actually backs up his finds with facts :AF:

[rotchcrocket04]

Okay, so i slacked on this and only emailed the guy today... mostly b/c my driver side headlight blew out last night :sadpace:

But its a good thing b/c now i can test these things out for you guys!

[BHam00GT-S]

Okay, so i slacked on this and only emailed the guy today... mostly b/c my driver side headlight blew out last night :sadpace:

But its a good thing b/c now i can test these things out for you guys!

Please post pics ASAP when you get them

[BrianT]

Okay, so i slacked on this and only emailed the guy today... mostly b/c my driver side headlight blew out last night :sadpace:

But its a good thing b/c now i can test these things out for you guys!

what kinda wheels are you running and what size??(e-mail me or AIM me, I am rarely on this board)

i am curious to know how these bulbs look as well...i mean the beam pattern and color...

[ragingpaseo]

anybody got them yet???

[rotchcrocket04]

I received an answer today...

Those "hybrid" bulbs are currently out of stock. He will be getting more in from Germany in about 12 days. Im going to pay for them awhile and he will be shipping them to me right when he gets them. He also said he sells out of these bulbs very quickly b/c word is catching on quickly about them.

Looks like im not gonna be getting them until after Christmas time :sadpace:

[rotchcrocket04]

what kinda wheels are you running and what size??(e-mail me or AIM me, I am rarely on this board)

18" TSW Thruxton's painted metallic black. Still debating on whether or not im gonna sell them and get volks :hide:

I'll IM ya sometime (when im not workin :chuckles: ) and shoot the shit with ya...

[BrianT]

18" TSW Thruxton's painted metallic black. Still debating on whether or not im gonna sell them and get volks :hide:

I'll IM ya sometime (when im not workin :chuckles: ) and shoot the shit with ya...

sounds good, thanks...sorry to hear about the bulbs, i really would like to know more about them

[rotchcrocket04]

sounds good, thanks...sorry to hear about the bulbs, i really would like to know more about them


Yeah it does suck. Although I believe Chris (Blue) finally found something good here. So i will be posting quite a few pictures once i get the bulbs.

Also, since my driver side headlight is out, i will put that new one in first, to measure the difference between the bulb i have in now (passenger side) to the new blub (driver side). Im also gonna have an overall before and after photo.

I hope these damn things are worth my money :chuckles:

[ragingpaseo]

I received an answer today...

Those "hybrid" bulbs are currently out of stock. He will be getting more in from Germany in about 12 days. Im going to pay for them awhile and he will be shipping them to me right when he gets them. He also said he sells out of these bulbs very quickly b/c word is catching on quickly about them.

Looks like im not gonna be getting them until after Christmas time :sadpace:
how much is pair including shipping for you? keep us updated...

[rotchcrocket04]

Just got confirmation that the bulbs will be in around 12/14/05.

Shipping is a flat rate of $7... no matter how many you want.


Let me dumb this down for some of you :chuckles:
Bulb (per) $24.00 x2
Shipping $7.00
___________________
2 Bulbs Shipped $55.00

[AdamVIP]

I just dropped an email saying I wanted 2 and asked how to order. I hope he has enough.

[rotchcrocket04]

I tried calling him today to put my order in and pay although he didnt answer.. im gonna send him an email now with my info.

-B

[rotchcrocket04]

He just called me and said he was a little backed up with orders. He will be shipping them tomorrow and i should expect them by friday or saturday because they are only coming from Maryland ;)

$55 shipped. He said it might be a dollar or two less because shipping will prolly be cheaper b/c im in PA.

[AdamVIP]

Just ordered mine. They will ship out tomorrow. Freakin awesome.

[Blue Bomber]

Comparison pix would be nice when you guys get them. :) Stock bulb in one housing and H7/H9 in the other, shining on a white wall would be best. ;)

[rotchcrocket04]

I will do that for ya Chris :thumbup:

[AdamVIP]

if i can find a white wall ill give it a go.

[SickCelica696]

well damn i should order them since i live in MD...i'd get them in like one day

[rotchcrocket04]

Well the verdict is in... ill let the pics speak for themselves. If you have any pic requests let me know. I was in a little bit of a rush tonight so I didnt get to take all the pics I originally wanted to.

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7901/dscf05148zo.jpg
The boxes.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2182/dscf05185rh.jpg
Stock headlight with driver side blown.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5020/dscf05226rs.jpg
New driver side bulb ... Stock passenger side bulb

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2498/dscf05235mi.jpg
New driver side bulb ... Stock passenger side bulb

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1951/dscf05241eh.jpg
New driver side bulb ... Stock passenger side bulb

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4782/dscf05267kx.jpg
New driver side bulb ... Stock passenger side bulb From inside the car.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7327/dscf05298tc.jpg
New bulbs in both housings.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/965/dscf05309tn.jpg
New bulbs in both housings.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6974/dscf05318er.jpg
New bulbs in both housings. From inside the car.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4062/dscf05335ic.jpg
In front of the garage, same distance away as the first pic I posted.

In conclusion, the bulbs are brighter. They came in two days and the guy charged me $5.12 for shipping instead of $7.00 like he said. I needed bulbs anyway since one was blown and since the Sylvania Silverstars are around $40... why not spend an extra $10-$15 and get something that I know will last longer and is proven brighter?!

Please keep in mind, i was recently in an accident (as you can see, I have one TRD eyelid on the passenger side). The driver side headlight isnt properly installed but is pretty damn close. I dont think this altered the testing at all.

[BaLLnFoShO]

wow those are nice!

[Blue Bomber]

:applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

[GTSunami]

definately brigther and whiter than stock..... Brilliant!!!!!

[LEDmod]

I would still say save up for HID..... and save up little more for D2S retrofit using $250 stock headlight replica from eBay.... it seems to be fairly good...

[Blue Bomber]

I would still say save up for HID..... and save up little more for D2S retrofit using $250 stock headlight replica from eBay.... it seems to be fairly good...
:werd:
But for those who can't afford HIDs, this is the very best alternative. :) That's easily a 25% gain in light output, if not more, and perfectly safe for the stock wiring (and most likely still legal). :thumbup:

[Thor]

Here is one taken 15 minutes ago... Uploading any more pics to here is taking to long.

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/uploads/15849/DSC00266.jpg

[BrianT]

those are the H9 rebase correct? I may have to order some. will they work on any and every H7 application?

[Blue Bomber]

those are the H9 rebase correct? I may have to order some. will they work on any and every H7 application?
Yes and yes. :) They're the same size as H7s and have the same filament positioning, but put out more light due to the H9 design.

[BrianT]

Yes and yes. :) They're the same size as H7s and have the same filament positioning, but put out more light due to the H9 design.

thanks...i e-mailed them to see what their thoughts are and said they will fit all H7's but not necessarily work well in every application

[AdamVIP]

Dang it mine havent come in yet. Im so jealous

[rotchcrocket04]

they are sexy :drool:

[SickCelica696]

:wtf: I can't tell the difference.....

[AdamVIP]

Look at the 6th pic down. Thats the biggest difference it seems.

[rotchcrocket04]

:wtf: I can't tell the difference.....


There is def. a difference... I believe they shine a little further also. On the highway last night on the way home they seemed to shine pretty damn far out.

[trdguy1981]

:wtf: I can't tell the difference.....


^^neither can I. I see that one light out put is a little wider thats all.I think I will stick with ordering 8000K HIDs. I have also had Sliverstars in for about 1/2 a year with no problem.


Also is there any other modding I would need to do for the 8000K to work on a GT?

[rotchcrocket04]

If you have extra money laying around then yes, HID is the way to go. But for regular headlight bulbs these are nice.

I had Silverstars in my old car, needless to say they sucked.

[ragingpaseo]

alright, after seen the pics...i think my piaa extreme force is a lot brighter...no offense...and also the silver stars are only $20 per pair at walmart now...apparently walmart overstock the H7, and they've reduced the price...

nonetheless, this was a good experiment...

[trdguy1981]

^^^I have seen your Piaa's before and to me they are brighter.


I do plan on getting HIDs this friday, I have always wanted to do them. I can't wait to get them on

[Blue Bomber]

You might be confusing glare with brightness. Whiter light will produce more glare than yellow, which can appear as brightness to the human eye, but actually hurts vision by increasing fatigue on your eyes. It also increases the contrast of lighted objects vs dimmer ones, so it kinda washes out objects that aren't directly in front of you. That's kinda how Sylvania can get away with calling their Silverstars brighter than regular bulbs (their Silverstar and normal H7s put out the exact same amount of lumens). Best way to tell the difference is to do a comparison pic like above, with PIAA vs stock, then increase the contrast and invert it like below. All the PIAA comparisons I've ever seen show the PIAAs to be whiter, but the light doesn't spread as wide as a normal bulb. Even if you run higher wattages, the increase in brightness isn't proportional to the increase in wattage (55w -> 100 wat doesn't double the brightness, or come anywhere near).

Either way, it's impossible for them to be brighter than these H7/H9 hybrids. H7s max out at around 1500 lumens, while H9s just start off at 2000. It's just the design of the filament. :wtf: I can't tell the difference.....

Look at the 6th pic down. Thats the biggest difference it seems.
:werd:
Here's an inverted pic to make it easier to see the big difference:

[trdguy1981]

You might be confusing glare with brightness. Whiter light will produce more glare than yellow, which can appear as brightness to the human eye, but actually hurts vision by increasing fatigue on your eyes. It also increases the contrast of lighted objects vs dimmer ones, so it kinda washes out objects that aren't directly in front of you. That's kinda how Sylvania can get away with calling their Silverstars brighter than regular bulbs (their Silverstar and normal H7s put out the exact same amount of lumens). Best way to tell the difference is to do a comparison pic like above, with PIAA vs stock, then increase the contrast and invert it like below. All the PIAA comparisons I've ever seen show the PIAAs to be whiter, but the light doesn't spread as wide as a normal bulb. Even if you run higher wattages, the increase in brightness isn't proportional to the increase in wattage (55w -> 100 wat doesn't double the brightness, or come anywhere near).

Either way, it's impossible for them to be brighter than these H7/H9 hybrids. H7s max out at around 1500 lumens, while H9s just start off at 2000. It's just the design of the filament.
:werd:
Here's an inverted pic to make it easier to see the big difference:

with the inverted pic I can really see a difference. Its just hard to tell when they both put out the same color of light

[AdamVIP]

well i installed mine today. Unfortunately I didnt take any photos but I noticed a brightness difference. The new bulbs are much better. I changed one and did a quick compare before I changed the other and it was quite noticable. They arnt anything like HIDs. Which makes sense because HIDs put out like 3000+ lumens and these are 2000 or so. I will say they look better than most bulbs Ive seen. They are pretty white for halogens. So my final verdict would be that they are better than stock and not quite HID. I would buy these over PIAA, Mtec or any of those other brands. This is a perfect bulb for when your stock bulbs go your just looking for a nicer H7 bulb.

[rotchcrocket04]

they are better than stock and not quite HID. I would buy these over PIAA, Mtec or any of those other brands. This is a perfect bulb for when your stock bulbs go your just looking for a nicer H7 bulb.


I agree 100%

[RekD0514]

what brand would you reccomend for 9005 and 9006s???

[Blue Bomber]

what brand would you reccomend for 9005 and 9006s???
Doesn't really matter. If you need brighter hgih beams, you're getting old. ;) You could probably put some 100W clear Philips bulbs in there, unless you use the high beams for extended periods of time (melts harness/housing).

[RekD0514]

I just mean 9006 for a different car. Is there any brands of bulbs that you would reccommend over the others besides like PIAA or something.

[Blue Bomber]

Philips Blue Vision or Premium for the best light output (not much over stock, though). Sylvania Silverstar might also be close. All will probably have a shorter lifespan than stock, due to filament design.

[JOHN_B]

http://www.rallylights.com/hella/H7.asp

If found this site where you can order them...

[JOHN_B]

Got them today. They look so much better compare to my old ones. I found out that I was using the Osram 55W bulb already. The 65W doesn't look yellow, its bright and gives the visibility that you need. 52 dollars.

[LEDmod]

Maybe it looks better cause your stock bulb might faded over time...