TRD High Compression Pistons and Header

[Bottle]

The TRD Header estimated cost is $800.00

The High Compression Pistons with Rings estimated cost coming soon.

Call to pre order, serious people only please.

[MilinGTS]

GTS?

you know im serious about this.
thx. for the tom's flywheel and your work on the FI GB btw.
been looking at new perf. options.

[ringthree]

Originally posted by Bottle
Call to pre order, serious people only please.

Bottle are you being serious? When should this stuff be available? This totally slipped under my radar.

Keyshawn have you seen this?

[t2000gts]

what compression are those at? 12.5:1? are they forged or cast? out of what at that...

any word on gains from the header?

[Pure Racer]

$800 bucks!? Damn! If I didn't go to college I would have more money...:wtc: :ugh:

[bickley]

Ummmm.....oh...my...gawd...there is a god

[CeliMatz]

is it for the GT or GT-S or both?

[TRD Liquid Silver]

i wrote this awhile back that TRD was doing R&D work on race pistons, header and a cai for the celica. i asked one of trd's senior technicians bob garner about what plans they have for the 2zz. he said n/a parts for the gts and a s/c for the 1zz. it seems n/a is the way to go with the 2zz motor.

$800 for the header. wow that's a lot i hope the gains are a lot as well. also how much for the pistons?

[TRD Liquid Silver]

here's the post i posted 2 months ago on feb15th in the performance forum.

TRD Headers and CAI..........
we just got a visit from one of trd's senior technicians and product developers from tustin,ca. they're currently dyno testing headers and a cold air intake. they are in the beginning phases of the test and would like to see at least 20-25hp gain from the two bolt ons. he did say that when designing the prototype for the cai they were looking at the aem cai for ideas. i asked about the other n/a parts (cams, pistons, valves) and he basically said that they've used some of the parts and was very pleased at the power gains. i asked him when the they would comeout and he said there's no definitive date. they're still working it out with toyota whether or not to release the parts. toyota is a little worried that it would increase the number of problems that already is associated with the gts. trd is doing whatever they can to provide parts for the gts that will increase it's performance, but corporate toyota has the final say whether a product gets released.

i also asked him about the change in the rev-limiter on the 2002 and why, he basically said it was due to the number of mis-shifts. he did say that there's a shop in LA that would reprogram the rev-limiter and i forgot the name of the shop, but i've got his e-mail so i'll ask him again.

but if they comeout with I/H/E combo that's good for about 30hp and if they release the n/a parts your looking at a wheel hp of about 220hp.. that's if you figure each mod would gain 10whp.. that from the intake,headers,exhaust,cams,valves and pistons.
that right there are good for some 13 sec runs

[Coolwheels00]

That's sweet but also ALOT of money. What gains are expected from the header?

[borpph]

I thought the stock headers were pretty much perfect. I don't think I wanna spend some $800 on a mod that might get me 3-5 hp or whatever the gains will be. Guess we'll have to sit back and wait.

[Keyshawn]

Originally posted by ringthree


Bottle are you being serious? When should this stuff be available? This totally slipped under my radar.

Keyshawn have you seen this?

$800 is pricey for a header, but it's better than having nothing. Can't wait to get more details (hp gains and what not) on that and the pistons.

[Ntence99]

i wpould be interested after some cold ,hard facts

[AkUmA]

the header sound nice, but i would need to see some hp #'s and maybe 1/4 times before i would think about getting it. also if the part is ok with the warrenty. but its nice to see new parts being introduced to the market for the celica.:)

[HilfigerCelica]

Wouldn't it be more cost effective to just get our stock headers Extrude Honed?

[rocket celica]

what is the difference between headers and pistons ?

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

this is excellent. Congrats GTS guys!!! I've said this all along... the GTS could give NA B16's a Run for there money. The GTS is pretty much an NA style engine. MAKE US GT GUYS PROUD!!!

[da wacky paki]

what is the difference between headers and pistons ?

Nothing really...basically the same thing :gap: hehehe

but in reality... pistons compress incoming air. Then spark plug ignites hte compressed air/fuel and pushes the piston up...thats how the power is made... as the piston is pushed up, the used air/fuel exits to the exhaust manifold (headers) and then to the exhaust pipe. Thats the simplest explanation i could give, without getting too in depth.

[Cash Money]

$800 is pretty absurd for a header...plain and simple...a 10+whp gain-with respectable gain across the band, works with the warrenty, and a coupon to get it installed for free at your toyota dealer i'd maybe then consider this item... and they could easily crack the codes for the ECU, why wouldn't they release a chip/blackbox/new ecu for our cars... i mean it wouldn't have to raise the fuel cut off necessarily, just remap the fuel and spark etc... i know the 2ZZ is great...but why higher comp pistons as well... high comp is a problem with boosting right now... so what they're gonna do is release products to make the 1ZZ perform better(supercharger) than the (don't hold this against me) higher model GT-S' 2ZZ... TRD is getting out of hand here... thats like GM selling parts to make the C5 out perform the Z06 and not offering anything to make the Z06 even better... why buy the flagship model??? just to say you spent more on it than the other... come on... man i can't take this anymore... i'm slowly regretting the purchase i made, and if it continues on like this, i will get rid of this ASAP... sorry, but i'm getting extremely fustrated now...

[mangoboy7]

Originally posted by rocket celica
what is the difference between headers and pistons ?

Go to www.howstuffworks.com . They teach you the basics of how the engine, trans, turbo, s/c, works. I learned a lot from it.

[iDRIVE]

$800 for a header.....no thanks. I bet that will only give about 3~5 hp increase. Stock header is good enough!

Im guessing the piston will cost $1500....

Cash Money,
Hold on to the car for 3-4 months, youll be surprise whats gonna come out. Just dont expect it from TRD.

[Cash Money]

well...the blitz kit does hold my interest a lil'... but it's starting to get fustrating...i've been holding on this long... i could hold on a lil' longer i guess... i hope it's worth it...

[00 scrub]

Cash Money: I think Corporate Toyota told TRD that they are not allowed to touch the ECUs or the computer systems on cars (or at least sell products that do).
The $800 is steep, but the part has gone through some long and probabaly intensive R&D so I bet the price is because of the research. I also think that the price will drop in a few months jsut like almost everyother part has. Remember the AEM CAI was around $300 when it was released and now it's about $220. The Tein HA coilovers were once $1500 (but these could be because of Yen-Dollar fluctuations).

[Spec GTS]

high compression pistons with cali's ghey 91 octane,doesn't seem worth it...

[gts24]

TRD has to be selling this thing with some sort of claimed gains. I'd like to know what that number is before I decide to purchase it. I do have the money to do it, I want to go all motor with this thing and this looks promising.

[gts24]

Is it possible to expect the type of gains listed next to this engine on toysports' page... ?


2ZZGE 1800 TRD SPECIFICATION 230 HP

or is this something completely different?
I think if anything this would be crank horsepower. I think it would be well worth it.
Toysport has the pistons quoted around $2300.... but who knows if this is the same thing. but if you were able to pull 50 horse out of this engine all motor, i'd be all over it.

http://www.toysport.com/ENGINE%20LIST%20MARCH%202002.htm

[djm221]

":wtc: There is no aftermarket for the Celica:wtc: "

...more performance parts come out...

":wtc: I ain't paying that much for more power :wtc:"



Man, some people either bitch that there isn't anything available, or bitch that is costs money when it comes out. What do you want? 50HP from an already high specific output engine for $200??

[NSX_GTR_LM]

I bet you guys would see around 220 or so after I/H/E, high comp pistons. The 02 guys would need a piggy back ecu, and I think its time you get a lift controller. The crossover is already so pronounced, what if these mods make it even worse. I know some people like the kick in the ass from the crossover, but thats not good when you exit a corner and understeer into a wall :) you guys could be in great shape. Time for NA 13's huh :)

[gts24]

Originally posted by NSX_GTR_LM
I bet you guys would see around 220 or so after I/H/E, high comp pistons. The 02 guys would need a piggy back ecu, and I think its time you get a lift controller. The crossover is already so pronounced, what if these mods make it even worse. I know some people like the kick in the ass from the crossover, but thats not good when you exit a corner and understeer into a wall :) you guys could be in great shape. Time for NA 13's huh :)

N/A 13's and a much better performing road-course/autoX car. I'm building up everything as far as suspension and yada yada just waiting for parts like this to come out.

[PorkchopSpecblue GT-S]

You guys want parts call up EIP tuning. IN maryland. They have lots of parts for our cars (GT-S)

$1995 Stand alone ECU (yes you can adjust the vvtl-i crossover, rev limiter and so forth.

$1095 high flow head (comes complete with new valves, springs, retainers, and all gaskets. They say it should put down over 20 hp to the wheels with a stock GT-S.

$799 connecting rods in 433 chromoly

$699 pistons in any compression with all gaskets

fuel rail

fuel pressure regualtor

upraded injectors

clutches

bolt on turbo kits

also copper head gaskets. can be made thicker to lower compression

$1200 re-sleeve block


All prices are quoted by them about a week ago.

What else could you guys possibly want.
Parts are out there friends, I never said they were cheap, but they are there.

[Keyshawn]

Originally posted by PorkchopSpecblue GT-S
You guys want parts call up EIP tuning. IN maryland. They have lots of parts for our cars (GT-S)

$1995 Stand alone ECU (yes you can adjust the vvtl-i crossover, rev limiter and so forth.

$1095 high flow head (comes complete with new valves, springs, retainers, and all gaskets. They say it should put down over 20 hp to the wheels with a stock GT-S.

$799 connecting rods in 433 chromoly

$699 pistons in any compression with all gaskets

fuel rail

fuel pressure regualtor

upraded injectors

clutches

bolt on turbo kits

also copper head gaskets. can be made thicker to lower compression

$1200 re-sleeve block


All prices are quoted by them about a week ago.

What else could you guys possibly want.
Parts are out there friends, I never said they were cheap, but they are there.

Props to EIP Tuning. Those are actually very competitive prices. Those guys really stepped up. As far as TRD's parts, can't wait to get more info on them.

[t2000gts]

for $1995, that ECU better be tunable by ME, in a very easy way (i.e, plug to laptop or it comes with something).

otherwise, that's RIDICULOUS for a new ECU. even if it's custom made.

this isn't rocket science, you know. more development goes into developing components for computers, that end up costing way less.

i hate companies preying on the public opinion that ECUs are some magical vaguely defined thing that's worth spending a zillion dollars on for a new one.

[Pure Racer]

Well if you think about, not many headers are marketed for the GT-S so they don't really have much competition.... Greddy, HKS, etc, they aren't making it for our cars... So of course Toyota is going to capitalize on it... But I know companies are in the process..

[Da Kine Guy]

how do you re-sleeve the block when the 2ZZ has no sleeve in the cylinder to begine with? the 2zz is nikasil plated

[Unity112]

I say 800 bucks is a normal price. When you look at the going rate for competitive headers, especially when your looking at more modded motors, you'll find TODA, JUN, Hytech, SMSP, Mugen will run you about that price, if not more.

Compare the gains you get with those headers against, some of the lesser ones, and youll see the difference.

[ringthree]

Originally posted by t2000gts
for $1995, that ECU better be tunable by ME, in a very easy way (i.e, plug to laptop or it comes with something).

otherwise, that's RIDICULOUS for a new ECU. even if it's custom made.

this isn't rocket science, you know. more development goes into developing components for computers, that end up costing way less.

i hate companies preying on the public opinion that ECUs are some magical vaguely defined thing that's worth spending a zillion dollars on for a new one.

Dude, I'm pretty sure they are talking about the TEC III system for which they are distributors. That is a full EMS. If you have any doubts then call them.

The reason that computer parts cost less is bacause they sell more of them. It's called economies of scale.

www.eiptuning.com

[Auto[BoT]_GTS]

I called that shop that said they could reprogram the ecu and the guy i talked to was a dummy and said they couldn't!

[SlasherX]

i cant see a header and high compression pistons on the already high compresion and well tuned 2zz getting you huge power gains..maybe 10bhp-15bhp?

damnthose parts are expensive, you could buy an entire v8 or v6 block for under the cost of the headers alone..

well, at least you guys are finally seeing the light at the end fo the tunnel and gettign parts...more of you should check out EIP Tuning, those parts sound BAD ASS

[Keyshawn]

Originally posted by Auto[BoT]_GTS
I called that shop that said they could reprogram the ecu and the guy i talked to was a dummy and said they couldn't!

Which company?

[ringthree]

Originally posted by SlasherX
i cant see a header and high compression pistons on the already high compresion and well tuned 2zz getting you huge power gains..maybe 10bhp-15bhp?

damnthose parts are expensive, you could buy an entire v8 or v6 block for under the cost of the headers alone..

well, at least you guys are finally seeing the light at the end fo the tunnel and gettign parts...more of you should check out EIP Tuning, those parts sound BAD ASS

I agree, the parts are expensive but they are from TRD which means the prices are automatically jacked. After a while teh prices with go down like on the Sportivo kit.

On a side note. I just saw the '03 Mustang Cobra SVT. 390/390 S/Ced? You have got to be kidding me! All the other parts make it almost competitive with Cobra R. All for only 28,000. That is amazing! Had me drooling. I say you should dump the 99 and just save up for that beast. It's running 8psi with a 8.5 CR. You could EASILY turn up the boost with a chip, filter and new pulleys.

[racinjason]

$800 is too much for a single header. Sorry TRD. I'll go through my contacts and pick it up for $450. Which is the price is should be selling for.

[SlasherX]

Originally posted by ringthree


I agree, the parts are expensive but they are from TRD which means the prices are automatically jacked. After a while teh prices with go down like on the Sportivo kit.

On a side note. I just saw the '03 Mustang Cobra SVT. 390/390 S/Ced? You have got to be kidding me! All the other parts make it almost competitive with Cobra R. All for only 28,000. That is amazing! Had me drooling. I say you should dump the 99 and just save up for that beast. It's running 8psi with a 8.5 CR. You could EASILY turn up the boost with a chip, filter and new pulleys.

it also comes with forged crank, forged h beam rods, and forged pistons in an iron block :) built like a brick ****house. aluminum flywheel, aluminum driveshaft, beefed up clutch, 6 speed tranny, Cobra R's IRS, etc etc yes, its worth the money to say the least, but the reason I'm looking at a fixed 99 is because i can swing the payments on a 16k loan easy, but the payments on a 26k loan aren't happening.

Only thing about the 03 that has me "worried" is the weight distribution not beign as close to 50/50 as it has been in the past sicne they switched to the heavier iron block.

FYI-- the Mach 1 mustang that I previously posted about..just hit 12's stock at FFW ;)
Imagine what the Cobra's going to hit :D

but anyways, i dont want to hijack the post with mustang crap..so..any idea what those EIP heads matched with some cams could do? or is lift too involved witht eh eads to really mess with the profiling of the cams?

[racinjason]

I'm sure the "right" cams with the top end completely redone would net some serious power. EIP claims 20 hp with just their head job, new, springs, etc. It's going to take alot of R&D and $ to get it right. With a built bottom end Your probably looking at a 250hp N/A car in stock trim if not more.

[gts24]

Originally posted by racinjason
I'm sure the "right" cams with the top end completely redone would net some serious power. EIP claims 20 hp with just their head job, new, springs, etc. It's going to take alot of R&D and $ to get it right. With a built bottom end Your probably looking at a 250hp N/A car in stock trim if not more.

That's what I'm lookin to do....... I'm just wieghing all the options right now. Someday I'll figure it out :D

[Cash Money]

i'm agreeing completely with racinjason...that price of $800 is absolutely absurd for a header... most aftermarket companies sell their headers for around $400...which is respectable...and we are talking "A" header here, not a pair... Yes yes, i know the R&D into it, but put it this way...TRD pays nothing for it's equipment and employees as it's funded by Toyota, well unless an outside source is manufacturing (Eibach, Vance and Hines, etc)but even then that shouldn't mark up that much... they're banking on sweeping the market for this item as there's no other header available yet...

you know what... $600 isn't bad from TRD... but $800??? come on... well hopefully they'll include in that a tube of KY jelly for the ass rape'n they're putting to you...that header better yeild more than respectable gains itself, not that you must use internal parts at the same time...

God...i could imagine what they'd charge for a set of cams if they ever release those... I'd pay $800 for a re-mapped ECU with raised fuel cut(8.5k or more), lower lift engagement (even if it's 300-500rpms), and completely remapped fuel and spark settings...and doesn't mess your warrenty... i could go on n' on...don't get me wrong, TRD's quality is of highest standards and none of their products disappoint but even still, i'll wait on this one...

oh yea... how do you "re-sleeve" a sleeve less block? and where's that EL prototypes "vaporware"??? at least TRD is bringing out parts though...about time...

[Auto[BoT]_GTS]

-keyshawn-

The company the senior technician mention that could change the revlimiter...

[M SPEC]

3 quick questions to either David Draper or Bottle:

1/ Header is 4-2-1 or 4-1 design?

2/ Any pics of the Header?

3/ High compression TRD pistons raises the CR ratio to .....?

Thanks in advance. I'm trying to determine if the pistions will be streetable on avaialble local fuels and type of engine repsonse from the design of the header.

Jason

[NSX_GTR_LM]

well, i am thinkin the compression will be 12.5:1, and the header should be 4-1 since thats what stock is (at least thats what it was on my GT), and will probably yield the most gains in terms of peak HP. I am sure bottle or DD can give better insight though.

[M SPEC]

NSX_GTR_LM, thats what I'm hoping for. Anything under 13:1 compression ratio and a 4-1 header design. The stock GTS header is really a tri-y design.

Jason

[TRD-GT]

shouldnt u guys give a chance to this headers????even if they cost 800 dollars???who knows there might be more power there than what we think....also what kind of header would it be a 4 to 1 or a 4 to2 ....what will be included would be a nother great question????what if it comes with the header a down pipe...a high flow cat...and some wiring to extend the o2 sensors????at that price, it doesnt seem to bad now...right ???i guess???

bottom line is...that the gts stock header suck...period i dont care how many times pips say that they were design from a good company...all the pics i have seen from them, tell me that they suck....nobody knows how much power this will give to the car....maybe a lot maybe not, maybe it helps the car down below...with more torque...bottom line is....
if u got the beans and u are staying n/a, u should buy them...now at this premium price....if not..if u are going turbo..dont even bother....since u will have to replace it then.....

bottom line again is...stock header in the gts sucks...so anything better will be welcomed...even if expensive....i think there is power on a good header...maybe the top end cant be increased that much...but the power band would look better, also more torque could be available and soonner...i dunno...

[Kit99bar]

good point Trd-gt. One of the honda NA tuners also commented that the stock GT-S header "needs help badly". I thin Joe Atlans (spelling).

Anyhow soon we we will have these trd headers and the much cheaper AMSS headers. Why b*tch and moan about the prices. Makes me happy to have parts. have you guys forgotten the last 3 years? We had nothing but intakes and exahust. Now that was somethign to b*tch and moan about lol

Originally posted by TRD-GT
shouldnt u guys give a chance to this headers????even if they cost 800 dollars???who knows there might be more power there than what we think....also what kind of header would it be a 4 to 1 or a 4 to2 ....what will be included would be a nother great question????what if it comes with the header a down pipe...a high flow cat...and some wiring to extend the o2 sensors????at that price, it doesnt seem to bad now...right ???i guess???

bottom line is...that the gts stock header suck...period i dont care how many times pips say that they were design from a good company...all the pics i have seen from them, tell me that they suck....nobody knows how much power this will give to the car....maybe a lot maybe not, maybe it helps the car down below...with more torque...bottom line is....
if u got the beans and u are staying n/a, u should buy them...now at this premium price....if not..if u are going turbo..dont even bother....since u will have to replace it then.....

bottom line again is...stock header in the gts sucks...so anything better will be welcomed...even if expensive....i think there is power on a good header...maybe the top end cant be increased that much...but the power band would look better, also more torque could be available and soonner...i dunno...

[gts24]

I am honestly probably gunna get this stuff. I want the high compression package in a big time way. Think of the r&d that had to go into this stuff before TRD can even think about releasing it.

Seriously think about that. We are talking warranty here guys, if it has the TRD name on it, it's warrantied........ so it has to have had the last X amount of years researched...

[Cash Money]

ok... well i have by no means cheap parts on my car... i know you get what you pay for...but for $800... you better get alot for that and to top it off you can't even see them really... so who cares if they have that high polished look... and most likey you'd wrap them too... i can not complain too much since i know they'll fit perfect and have some R&D into them but thats a lot of cash...and then having to pay to get it installed on the car yet? If they're around what racinjason said, i'll but them no prob... even if they're a lil' more than that... but $800 is too high period... it's great they're making different parts for us but some real power makers are needed as well... FI, ECU, Cams...along with the header...

[dx3162]

Yes, 800 is a bit steep for headers...good thing mom just got a job at toyota & I can get TRD parts for cost. I'm not a huge fan of the look or sound of the TRD exhaust, but how is it power-wise? The shop guys at toyota make it sound great.

[RUSHIIII]

Well I went to the TRD USA site and all I could find is headers for other cars. They did however have the same gains in each one, 14-16hp gain. Can you give us any Specs on this Bottle or anyone?

Thanks

Laters
Chris

[celica gte racing]

pff I read a post by TRD rep of japan which said exhaust+pistons+header+airfilter will give you 25hp tops. tuning isn't all about gains, its about engine feel. and apparantly, its becomes a great engine to drive.

[gts24]

Originally posted by celica gte racing
pff I read a post by TRD rep of japan which said exhaust+pistons+header+airfilter will give you 25hp tops. tuning isn't all about gains, its about engine feel. and apparantly, its becomes a great engine to drive.


thanks for the information. could you possibly post a link to that bit of information? it would be very much appreciated.

[MilinGTS]

well, you say 25 hp tops

but this isnt about peak hp.

if we could get more area under the curve

this engine would easily kick some ass.

LSVTECS are potent because they retain power in ranges that the regular GSR mill does not..

you CAN, however, gaine more hp than a GSR motor.

thres a big debate on LSVTEC vs GSR tho, ill stay out o fit.

[Unity112]

Originally posted by Kit99bar

Why b*tch and moan about the prices. Makes me happy to have parts. have you guys forgotten the last 3 years? We had nothing but intakes and exahust. Now that was somethign to b*tch and moan about lol



Werd. We are getting parts, and that is great. Seriously, look at the N/A Type R's and Honda's in general. Do you think they are pushing 200+ hp to the wheels with cheapo headers? (with the exception of the DC crap). No.. I'm not saying I know much about this header, if it will be worth the price, but we really won't know until dynos come out (both heavily modified motors and I/H/E tests).

So just be happy that we are actually getting some headers produced, and for the masses, not custom units.

[02gt-s]

greddy is coming out with a header

[Ntence99]

Is Gready comin out with a header for the gts?Where did u find this out?:wtf:

[gts24]

Greddy can suck my cock.

they aren't comin out with a header. pppfffttt

[swift 21]

I SEE A GROUP BUY COMING ON!!!!

[GTS LAID]

i love you guys... but i gotta say sometimes you disappoint me... theres a lot of talk on these boards but a very few put their money where their mouths are... TRD came out with strictly performance parts that have been tested to your original engine's tolerance levels and deemed to work... not to mention supported by the factory... and if you guys think 800 is a lot for a header check out other high quality tuners like mugen and spoon.

fact of the matter is... most of the people on this board cannot afford highest reliaibity full on R&D tuning... hence all the btching....

[GTS LAID]

P.S. Greddy made a header looong ago... which brings up another point... if you'd like to find out something about tuning your cars.. or if you were even half serious about it.. you'd be calling up the manufacturers and asking them... you'd be surprised what you'd find..

sorry about the bug up my ass but i'm pretty sick of people bashing high quality products because they dont put out 700 horsepower and dont cost 5 dollars.

[TRD-GT]

GTS LAID:wow...yeah thats the man...I AGREE....

[swift 21]

right on gts-laid!!

[t2000gts]

Originally posted by celica gte racing
pff I read a post by TRD rep of japan which said exhaust+pistons+header+airfilter will give you 25hp tops. tuning isn't all about gains, its about engine feel. and apparantly, its becomes a great engine to drive.

that's about right, seeing as how, the air filter gives 0 practical hp, and the exhaust gives a handful. and the header is up for debate, maybe 5?

so 20hp from just higher compression. combine with a TRUE cold air intake that nets 10-15whp on stock compression, and you could add upwards of 30-35whp with pistons/intake.

and that would also mean a ton more power under the curve when you add the header/exhaust stuff. with proper tuning, there wouldn't even be low end loss under 3000rpm like we see with intakes and exhausts right now.

[02gt-s]

greddy headers:



Go to http://www.greddy.com/products/headers_frame.htm

[The Wok]

So any finalization on the upped CR? I hope they're being considerate of the oxygenated low octane junk they sell in North America. Or race gas may be the fuel of choice for Celica owners :)

[GTS LAID]

any developments on the US celicas is done by TRD USA... dont worry about compatibility.

[Keyshawn]

Originally posted by t2000gts


so 20hp from just higher compression. combine with a TRUE cold air intake that nets 10-15whp on stock compression, and you could add upwards of 30-35whp with pistons/intake.



20 hp just from TRD's higher compression pistons is a bit optimistic. Remember that the prototype internals from TRD Japan included cams and a ported cylinder head, too. A lot of the hp gains were derived from those parts also.

[peleus21]

all this talk about more parts makes me happier i bought a celi now :wiggle:

[WillyK]

Originally posted by 02gt-s
greddy headers:



Go to http://www.greddy.com/products/headers_frame.htm

Wow To Be Announced!! Man, it's only said that for, what 2 years now?

[gts24]

Originally posted by WillyK


Wow To Be Announced!! Man, it's only said that for, what 2 years now?


Exactly. Greddy can suck my cock. **** 'EM

[gts24]

K,

Anyone know what is going on with this?

[Pure Racer]

Originally posted by GTS LAID
P.S. Greddy made a header looong ago... which brings up another point... if you'd like to find out something about tuning your cars.. or if you were even half serious about it.. you'd be calling up the manufacturers and asking them... you'd be surprised what you'd find..

sorry about the bug up my ass but i'm pretty sick of people bashing high quality products because they dont put out 700 horsepower and dont cost 5 dollars.

:werd: Less talk, more action! I remember that last post with all the numbers and stuff to manufactures... Did anyone try and help? I don't think many did...

[ringthree]

I call alot of people (not so much now that they are cracking down on long distance call at my work). So there are some good people out there!

[borpph]

Where's Bottle on this?

[iDRIVE]

Some pics:
http://www.poweraxel.com/trd/news/news2002/trd256a.jpghttp://www.poweraxel.com/trd/news/news2002/trd256b.jpghttp://www.poweraxel.com/trd/news/news2002/trd256c.jpg

[Bottle]

Seems this thread has gotten out of hand a little on the headers subject. Just wait till it is released then we can see all the gains.

Now for the pistons, I have one set in stock.

[GulfCoastGTS]

Cant wait for th eheader. I wonder how it will compare to the AMSS? Anyways...$800 isnt much. seriously. I was talking to a few of my type-r buddies, and they said the mugen header one had was like over $1000, the other's spoon header was $800+. And I think one of them had the JUN header, also very pricey. Seems pretty standard for a header.

[t2000gts]

that header in the picture looks identical to the STOCK header, wtf. it even has that little seperator plate in the end to split the 4-1 into 4-2. well almost anyway.

stock header:

http://matrixvibe.net/files/nd4spd/amssheader/DSC00084.JPG

http://matrixvibe.net/files/nd4spd/amssheader/DSC00089.JPG

AMSS header:

http://matrixvibe.net/files/nd4spd/amssheader/DSC00114.JPG