Misshifting GT

[ZenoGenProducts]

Hi everyone i am new to this forum, and i was wondering if i did any damage to my car, I was trying to race a Ford Explorer with my new celica that i just bought but i did something bad... When we were going i was redlining in 3rd gear and i was about to pass him, when i shifted back to 2nd by accident.
I saw it went off the rev limitor, (my rev limitor is set at 7,000RPM) and it went to like around 8,000 or so so i heard it and it was like 2 seconds and i hit the clutch all the way down and shifted back to neutral, now i was wondering If i did any damage cause when i start driving again i heard weird rattles that i never heard before. But there was usually noise around 2,000RPM before so this weird noise appear at that same RPM also, but the other noise went away, So anyhow i drove it for a little parked the car, rev it to like 2,000 RPM and then the noise complete went away. So there i was happy, but when i went home i drove on the freeway and it seem alot smoother, but anyhow i slowed down in 2nd gear and it was at like 2,000RPM and i heard a weird noise or rattle sounded like a strut noise but it was coming from the front could i have damage any valves or pistons? thats what im wondering, I did get on the freeway afterwards

[toyotarkeener]

yea, sounds like youve got a problem... All that for a race against an Explorer, wow that sucks.

[MISTER 2]

Must be a new month...because another idiot destoyed his engine by mis-shifting.

You need to buy a new engine...but you sure showed that Explorer. :rolleyes:

[Jesse IL]

Just remember, you're a mis-shift "victim".

[ZenoGenProducts]

Must be a new month...because another idiot destoyed his engine by mis-shifting.

You need to buy a new engine...but you sure showed that Explorer. :rolleyes:

dude the car still drives fine, its just makes weird noise i cant really tell with music on but it might be clutch slipping noise i dunno i have never heard a clutch slip before the noise, but the engine works fine, i wouldnt assume things like you, Could be my clutch, the noise only happens at 2,000RPM in second gear at like 20mph or so when ever it hits the 2 it rattles a little used to be that way when i first bought it

[MISTER 2]

Must be a new month...because another idiot destoyed his engine by mis-shifting.

You need to buy a new engine...but you sure showed that Explorer. :rolleyes:

dude the car still drives fine, its just makes weird noise i cant really tell with music on but it might be clutch slipping noise i dunno i have never heard a clutch slip before the noise, but the engine works fine, i wouldnt assume things like you, Could be my clutch

My mistake...I appologize...I will defer to your expertise. ;)

[BHam00GT-S]

nope. not the clutch.
Right about now would be the ideal time for a rep from MWR to talk to ya
Edit: NM, forgot it's a gt

[ZenoGenProducts]

After putting some extra oil in and checking around the corners, struts and stuff, and resetting the engine, (removed the battery connector for awhile then reconnecting it) the car drove like it was when i bought it, i dont think theres anymore noise except for engine rattle at 2,000RPM but that was what it was like before no more weird noises. Just took it for a test drove, and besides i have a rev limitor so at 3rd gear i was probubly guning it to at max 7,000RPM and when i shifted it was probubly at like 6,000RPM or it went down, so i didnt think i really do much damage besides loud rev for 2 seconds

[toyotarkeener]

heres the thing... the problem is progressive.. may sound decent now, but will get worse. but what do we know, why come here and ask a question if you "know" the answer already, or wont listen to us.

[MISTER 2]

After putting some extra oil in and checking around the corners, struts and stuff, and resetting the engine, (removed the battery connector for awhile then reconnecting it) the car drove like it was when i bought it, i dont think theres anymore noise except for engine rattle at 2,000RPM but that was what it was like before no more weird noises. Just took it for a test drove, and besides i have a rev limitor so at 3rd gear i was probubly guning it to at max 7,000RPM and when i shifted it was probubly at like 6,000RPM or it went down, so i didnt think i really do much damage besides loud rev for 2 seconds

:faint: Ohh...the secret reset the ECU fix for major engine damage.

A Revlimiter does nothing when you mis-shift...you mechanically (NOT electricaly) over-reved the engine...it probably went to ~9000 or so.

Your engine is going to fail very soon...you won't believe any of us until it happens. I recommend upgrading your insurance to cover towing...you will need it if you continue to drive the car.

[WhiteStallionGT]

From what I have understood about the rev limiter, it is a safety mechanism that was established for such a situation. It cuts off the engine so I bet your fine. That doesn't mean it protects the motor in all situations, don't be misunderstood, and don

[Jesse IL]

You may be OK on a 1ZZ. Engine wise at least. There could be clutch or transmission issues. Mis-shifting a 2ZZ leads to almost certain death.

[ZenoGenProducts]

[QUOTE=WhiteStallionGT]From what I have understood about the rev limitor, it is a safety mechanism that was established for such a situation. It cuts off the engine so I bet your fine. That doesn't mean it protects the motor in all situations, don't be misunderstood, and don

[WhiteStallionGT]

You may be OK on a 1ZZ. Engine wise at least. There could be clutch or transmission issues. Mis-shifting a 2ZZ leads to almost certain death.

Agree.

yea i dont think there was any problems afterwards besides weird noises, and i was racing in a road that wasnt very pleasant, and the rev limitor did limit my rev to like 7,000RPM on 3rd gear but i think i was at like 70-80MPH before i switch accidently to second, anyhow i heard the loud rev for 2 seconds and dump the clutch right away, i was scared but the engine still was running, ofcourse i think going that fast on a uneven road could cause some rocks or something to hit under my car cause i dont think the plastic thing under the car is correctly installed cause its nearly torn apart on the bottom.

Are you sure it wasn't you driving on the "uneven road" that ruined the under carriage? Just look at it this way. You might have been lucky this time or not, but next time learn from experience.

[natewan31]

haha racing...i hope everything works out for you though.

[MISTER 2]

After putting some extra oil in and checking around the corners,

Were you low on oil too?

Can you isolate where the sound is coming from?
Is it louder from above or below the car.

Low on oil + mis-shift...I still say rod knock.

Either way...make sure you have towing insurance because something was damaged.

[ZenoGenProducts]

:faint: Ohh...the secret reset the ECU fix for major engine damage.

A Revlimiter does nothing when you mis-shift...you mechanically (NOT electricaly) over-reved the engine...it probably went to ~9000 or so.

Your engine is going to fail very soon...you won't believe any of us until it happens. I recommend upgrading your insurance to cover towing...you will need it if you continue to drive the car.

hey man i said i rev the engine at the rev limitor on 3rd gear, i know that rev limitor does not prevent me from over reving it, especially when i downshift, yea i know that, but what i ment was reving at 3rd good thing it prevent me from going to like 8,000 RPM that would probubly do much more damage

[ZenoGenProducts]

Were you low on oil too?

Can you isolate where the sound is coming from?
Is it louder from above or below the car.

Low on oil + mis-shift...I still say rod knock.

Either way...make sure you have towing insurance because something was damaged.

no i was pretty much high on oil, i just added anti wear and tear lubricants to the engine.

Mines is a Celica GT

[ZenoGenProducts]

haha racing...i hope everything works out for you though.

yea i was just racing a friend, thanks for the concern though

[MISTER 2]

Were you low on oil too?

Can you isolate where the sound is coming from?
Is it louder from above or below the car.

Low on oil + mis-shift...I still say rod knock.

Either way...make sure you have towing insurance because something was damaged.

no i was pretty much high on oil, i just added anti wear and tear lubricants to the engine.

Mines is a Celica GT

If adding some form of engine honey caused it to go away I still say rod knock.
That is a temporary fix for engine damage...arguably it will limit wear and prolong engine life; in can't do anything if you spun a bearing.

[ZenoGenProducts]

If adding some form of engine honey caused it to go away I still say rod knock.
That is a temporary fix for engine damage...arguably it will limit wear and prolong engine life; in can't do anything if you spun a bearing.

what does a broken rod knock sound like? or a spun bearing

[MISTER 2]

If adding some form of engine honey caused it to go away I still say rod knock.
That is a temporary fix for engine damage...arguably it will limit wear and prolong engine life; in can't do anything if you spun a bearing.

what does a broken rod knock sound like? or a spun bearing

It is not a broken rod...the engine would not run if you threw a rod.

It would be a rhythmic taping and hollow sound...you could feel it in the valve cover. Literaly as if something was knocking on the inside of the engine. It would increase in speed with respect to the engine speed.

However so would various forms of transmission damage.

Listen from above the car...and listen from below the car...where is it louder?

[MISTER 2]

[QUOTE=WhiteStallionGT] From what I have understood about the rev limiter, it is a safety mechanism that was established for such a situation. It cuts off the engine so I bet your fine. That doesn't mean it protects the motor in all situations, don't be misunderstood, and don

[ZenoGenProducts]

It is not a broken rod...the engine would not run if you threw a rod.

It would be a rhythmic taping and hollow sound...you could feel it in the valve cover. Literaly as if something was knocking on the inside of the engine. It would increase in speed with respect to the engine speed.

However so would various forms of transmission damage.

Listen from above the car...and listen from below the car...where is it louder?

the noise only happens at a certain RPM and it doesnt seem to be the ENGINE AT ALL more like suspension or something. thumping it and its very very low... i could barely hear it had to turn off music and everything and roll the windows down, only happens at certain speed at certain rpm

then again i pulled the car up in a high slope drive way, where my garage is at so that might cause some things to move differently in the front of the engine so it might gotton rid of the sound just like that on the spot and i wasted my time reseting ECU and adding Engine lubricants

[Toonie]

your engine is going to go out sooner then you think. it could be fine now but wait till later. i can almost gurantee you that if you misshift like that again, bye bye motor

[ZenoGenProducts]

your engine is going to go out sooner then you think. it could be fine now but wait till later. i can almost gurantee you that if you misshift like that again, bye bye motor

i think i found the problem its probubly not the motor, its probubly the suspension cause i never raced in a bumpy road before at 80mph i think my boot strut is making that weird noise at 2000rpm and 20mph in 2nd gear, sounds very low sometimes i hear it sometimes i dont. Either that or it could just be some noise, since these cars are known for making noise

[slidr]

[QUOTE=WhiteStallionGT] From what I have understood about the rev limiter, it is a safety mechanism that was established for such a situation. It cuts off the engine so I bet your fine. That doesn't mean it protects the motor in all situations, don't be misunderstood, and don

[toyotarkeener]

Struts dont make noise at certain RPMS. Its either your engine or your tranny.. face the facts.. I feel like a Dr. telling a patient they have XX Months to live. Honestly we gave it to you straight, you are in denial. If it is the struts thats great, but they dont make noises in certain gears and RPMs only...

[Toonie]

Struts dont make noise at certain RPMS. Its either your engine or your tranny.. face the facts.. I feel like a Dr. telling a patient they have XX Months to live. Honestly we gave it to you straight, you are in denial. If it is the struts thats great, but they dont make noises in certain gears and RPMs only...

true that, it's your motor, not your struts making noise at certain gears and RPMs

[MISTER 2]

It is not a broken rod...the engine would not run if you threw a rod.

It would be a rhythmic taping and hollow sound...you could feel it in the valve cover. Literaly as if something was knocking on the inside of the engine. It would increase in speed with respect to the engine speed.

However so would various forms of transmission damage.

Listen from above the car...and listen from below the car...where is it louder?

the noise only happens at a certain RPM and it doesnt seem to be the ENGINE AT ALL more like suspension or something. thumping it and its very very low... i could barely hear it had to turn off music and everything and roll the windows down, only happens at certain speed at certain rpm

then again i pulled the car up in a high slope drive way, where my garage is at so that might cause some things to move differently in the front of the engine so it might gotton rid of the sound just like that on the spot and i wasted my time reseting ECU and adding Engine lubricants

100% the suspension will not be affected by RPM

Rod knock will get louder as the problem gets worse. When err. the 2nd time I heard rod knock on Jesse's engine he could not hear it at first then it got worse and worse.

Something could be broken inside the trans as well.

You still haven't said where the noise is comming from. It is not the supension...but is it louder from the top or bottom of the car.

Does it make the noise when in gear, when in neutral, or both?

[Littleguy]

nope. not the clutch.
Right about now would be the ideal time for a rep from MWR to talk to ya
Edit: NM, forgot it's a gt


I take it you don't have much experience with MWR :rolleyes: They do much much more for the GT(1zz) than they do for the GT-S(2zz). Just look at the more powerful motors they have.

And for ZenoGenProducts I wouldn't hesistate to go to MWR if you need major work after this is all diagnosed. Matt is great, and I rebuilt my 1zz with their parts (valves, springs, retainers, etc...) after a mis-shift and was very pleased.

[Serge]

i misshifted once, my fuel cut off kicked in. a 7100, and jumped back to 6000. at that time i kicked the shifter into neutral. you are lucky you drive a gt.

[MISTER 2]

i misshifted once, my fuel cut off kicked in. a 7100, and jumped back to 6000. at that time i kicked the shifter into neutral. you are lucky you drive a gt.

Fuel cut, ignition cut...none of these safety systems will do a damn thing if you mis-shift.

Under normal conditions the engine spins the transmission...when you mis-shift and overrev, the transmission is spinning the engine...and from 3rd to 2nd it will spin the engine faster than it is meant to go...

...fuel cut, and ignition cut have nothing to do with the physical speed of the transmission or its inertial ability to spin the engine to a speed higher than those preset limits.

[ZenoGenProducts]

I take it you don't have much experience with MWR :rolleyes: They do much much more for the GT(1zz) than they do for the GT-S(2zz). Just look at the more powerful motors they have.

And for ZenoGenProducts I wouldn't hesistate to go to MWR if you need major work after this is all diagnosed. Matt is great, and I rebuilt my 1zz with their parts (valves, springs, retainers, etc...) after a mis-shift and was very pleased.

what exactly is MWR?

[ZenoGenProducts]

100% the suspension will not be affected by RPM

Rod knock will get louder as the problem gets worse. When err. the 2nd time I heard rod knock on Jesse's engine he could not hear it at first then it got worse and worse.

Something could be broken inside the trans as well.

You still haven't said where the noise is comming from. It is not the supension...but is it louder from the top or bottom of the car.

Does it make the noise when in gear, when in neutral, or both?

it makes this weird noise unlike any noise i have heard before in my life. and it only makes it if i let go of the gas when im going like 20mph when i put some gas it doesnt make that noise i dont know where its coming from but its very low, and i think it might be my throttle cable cause i dont think its been tightened, i know its weird for me to complain cause celicas are known to have bad road noise but its just that i have never heard this noise, or probubly i never tried letting go of the gas at 20mph, i usually always shift to neutral and apply brakes and this was during traffic.

[MISTER 2]

I take it you don't have much experience with MWR :rolleyes: They do much much more for the GT(1zz) than they do for the GT-S(2zz). Just look at the more powerful motors they have.

And for ZenoGenProducts I wouldn't hesistate to go to MWR if you need major work after this is all diagnosed. Matt is great, and I rebuilt my 1zz with their parts (valves, springs, retainers, etc...) after a mis-shift and was very pleased.

what exactly is MWR?

www.monkeywrenchracing.com

[ZenoGenProducts]

I take it you don't have much experience with MWR :rolleyes: They do much much more for the GT(1zz) than they do for the GT-S(2zz). Just look at the more powerful motors they have.

And for ZenoGenProducts I wouldn't hesistate to go to MWR if you need major work after this is all diagnosed. Matt is great, and I rebuilt my 1zz with their parts (valves, springs, retainers, etc...) after a mis-shift and was very pleased.

So dude if i change all the springs and stuff myself how long you think its going to take and how much $$$ you think i got to put out of my pocket. Like do i have to replace the cylinders too, is this like basicly rebuilding an engine

[Littleguy]

I'm really not sure about total labor costs, I had a shop do it. If all you did was damage the valves then you could just get a 1zz head and just install the valves, springs, retainers, etc... on the head, maybe even a port&polish, and just bolt it to the block. I had to replace everything on mine though, I blew a hole through one of my pistons. For valves, springs, retainters, and a used head you would probably spend around $1000.

[ZenoGenProducts]

I'm really not sure about total labor costs, I had a shop do it. If all you did was damage the valves then you could just get a 1zz head and just install the valves, springs, retainers, etc... on the head, maybe even a port&polish, and just bolt it to the block. I had to replace everything on mine though, I blew a hole through one of my pistons. For valves, springs, retainters, and a used head you would probably spend around $1000.

oh thats good then, i was thinking of spending around like 2000$ but thats cheap lol cause i know a mechanic who works magic on all cars and he charges cheap for labor cause i know him, oh and i found out what the noise or what the noise sounds like... just put the parking brake on and try to move the car in first gear thats what it sounds like in 1,500~2,000RPM going in 2nd gear, so it might be my breaks but what i know is it seems like its coming from the front, so could it be my brakes touching the rotors? thats causing this noise? its noise sounds very lower then when you put in first and set parking brake but its like that noise only occurs at slow speeds... anything above 20 i cant even hear it

[MISTER 2]

I'm really not sure about total labor costs, I had a shop do it. If all you did was damage the valves then you could just get a 1zz head and just install the valves, springs, retainers, etc... on the head, maybe even a port&polish, and just bolt it to the block. I had to replace everything on mine though, I blew a hole through one of my pistons. For valves, springs, retainters, and a used head you would probably spend around $1000.

oh thats good then, i was thinking of spending around like 2000$ but thats cheap lol cause i know a mechanic who works magic on all cars and he charges cheap for labor cause i know him, oh and i found out what the noise or what the noise sounds like... just put the parking brake on and try to move the car in first gear thats what it sounds like in 1,500~2,000RPM going in 2nd gear, so it might be my breaks but what i know is it seems like its coming from the front, so could it be my brakes touching the rotors? thats causing this noise? its noise sounds very lower then when you put in first and set parking brake but its like that noise only occurs at slow speeds... anything above 20 i cant even hear it

brakes, suspension, throttle cable, none of these things will be affected by a mis-shift.

Mis-shift related problems will be trans or engine. If you have other problems they are not in any way related to the mis-shift.

[ZenoGenProducts]

brakes, suspension, throttle cable, none of these things will be affected by a mis-shift.

Mis-shift related problems will be trans or engine. If you have other problems they are not in any way related to the mis-shift.

ok man once again its just a stupid misshift i dont think i damage the engine that bad although i used my brakes really hard, cause there was alot of traffic on that road.

[Noncomposmentis]

:faint:

[MISTER 2]

Hi everyone i am new to this forum, and i was wondering if i did any damage to my car, ....When we were going i was redlining in 3rd gear and i was about to pass him, when i shifted back to 2nd by accident.


ok man once again its just a stupid misshift i dont think i damage the engine that bad

What is the point of this thead? :confused:

[ZenoGenProducts]

What is the point of this thead? :confused:

its a general discussion

[MISTER 2]

What is the point of this thead? :confused:

its a general discussion

Ohh...in that case I think your problem would be solved if you put a magnet around the fuel line. ;)

[NeverGod]

:popcorn:

[ZenoGenProducts]

i found the problem it was the strut bar, not then engine. i guess not many people in this forum is smart to tell me what could cause this noise.

[ZenoGenProducts]

Must be a new month...because another idiot destoyed his engine by mis-shifting.

You need to buy a new engine...but you sure showed that Explorer. :rolleyes:

i dont know whats up with you and your negative vibe, giving me the wrong advice and everything and ur expertise... is lame and your car is not even a celica so why bother giving other advice, 1zzfe engines can take a beating it wont break easily just because of a wrong misshift from 3 to 2 :chiggy:

[natewan31]

haha dude don't get all uptight, this is a dope a$$ forum. you just happened to come in on a different note, most people don't come in w/ a celica problem. but if you want stick around..

[StaticX27]

i dont know whats up with you and your negative vibe, giving me the wrong advice and everything and ur expertise... is lame and your car is not even a celica so why bother giving other advice, 1zzfe engines can take a beating it wont break easily just because of a wrong misshift from 3 to 2

Better not take your car to a mechanic then, because well, he doesn't drive a Celica GT, he must not know anything about them.

If you're gonna ask for help, lose the attitude. You asked a question because you didn't know. Now when people answer your question, you proceed to tell them that they're wrong? Why in the 9 layers of hell should anyone help you? You say things like "1zzfe engines can take a beating it wont break easily just because of a wrong misshift from 3 to 2" but whatare you bsaing that on? Your infinite experience with the Celica?

:chiggy:

[toyotarkeener]

Sounds like the problem was on your end. you told us it happened at a certain RPM in a certain gear. That is not a problem that would be caused the the strut bar.

You are way to negative, and if you are going to ask for advice dont tell the person answering you that they are wrong and tell them the right answer, then continue to ask the question over again.

[MidNite]

My Rod Knock happened at 2800rpms and always there. It sounded like it came straight from the head. It wasnt noticible on start up and progressed as engine warmed up.

[MISTER 2]

i dont know whats up with you and your negative vibe, giving me the wrong advice and everything and ur expertise... is lame and your car is not even a celica so why bother giving other advice, 1zzfe engines can take a beating it wont break easily just because of a wrong misshift from 3 to 2 :chiggy:

Hi everyone i am new to this forum, and i was wondering if i did any damage to my car, I was trying to race a Ford Explorer with my new celica that i just bought but i did something bad... When we were going i was redlining in 3rd gear and i was about to pass him, when i shifted back to 2nd by accident.
I saw it went off the rev limitor, (my rev limitor is set at 7,000RPM) and it went to like around 8,000 or so so i heard it and it was like 2 seconds and i hit the clutch all the way down and shifted back to neutral, now i was wondering If i did any damage cause when i start driving again i heard weird rattles that i never heard before.

Ummm...you were the one who posted misleading information.
You post that you were racing and mis-shifted 3rd redline-2...you said right after that you were getting rattles that you never heard before.

At no point in your first post did you mention anything about suspension issues, or bumpy roads...or anything that has anything to do with suspension components.

Given the number of idiots that mis-shift their Celicas it is not a bad guess to assume you are just another moron that ham-fisted the shifter and blew your engine.

I am on here because I have a very heavily modified car, and my roomate is a moderator of this site. I could really give a rats ass about morons that can't drive their Celicas.

However if there are people here that I might be able to help...I will certainly try based on my general automotive knowledge even if my only specific Celica experience is from turning wrenches on my roomates GTS.

Notice that in 5 years of being on this site I only have 250 posts...that is because I spend more time reading than I do starting stupid threads. :rolleyes:

[ZenoGenProducts]

Ummm...you were the one who posted misleading information.
You post that you were racing and mis-shifted 3rd redline-2...you said right after that you were getting rattles that you never heard before.

At no point in your first post did you mention anything about suspension issues, or bumpy roads...or anything that has anything to do with suspension components.

Given the number of idiots that mis-shift their Celicas it is not a bad guess to assume you are just another moron that ham-fisted the shifter and blew your engine.

I am on here because I have a very heavily modified car, and my roomate is a moderator of this site. I could really give a rats ass about morons that can't drive their Celicas.

However if there are people here that I might be able to help...I will certainly try based on my general automotive knowledge even if my only specific Celica experience is from turning wrenches on my roomates GTS.

Notice that in 5 years of being on this site I only have 250 posts...that is because I spend more time reading than I do starting stupid threads. :rolleyes:

Why dont you stop wasting your time and giving me a advice to buy a new engine, and go sleep with your roomate, everybody misshifts once in awhile not everyone is perfect, its not like im a robot, im human so im a moron because i misshift?

[ZenoGenProducts]

Better not take your car to a mechanic then, because well, he doesn't drive a Celica GT, he must not know anything about them.

If you're gonna ask for help, lose the attitude. You asked a question because you didn't know. Now when people answer your question, you proceed to tell them that they're wrong? Why in the 9 layers of hell should anyone help you? You say things like "1zzfe engines can take a beating it wont break easily just because of a wrong misshift from 3 to 2" but whatare you bsaing that on? Your infinite experience with the Celica?

:chiggy:

guy i dont know who you are or whatever you are, but when did you started enterting the picture here? this is none of your business and besides, i read from other threads from people who did misshift while redlining 3rd gear on a GT and their engine seems to be okay. and they did it more then once

[ZenoGenProducts]

Sounds like the problem was on your end. you told us it happened at a certain RPM in a certain gear. That is not a problem that would be caused the the strut bar.

You are way to negative, and if you are going to ask for advice dont tell the person answering you that they are wrong and tell them the right answer, then continue to ask the question over again.

i read from another forum about the struts making that sound when reversing or turning the steering wheel and going slowly, so i ask my mechanic to change that part and it solved the problem.

[MISTER 2]

Sounds like the problem was on your end. you told us it happened at a certain RPM in a certain gear. That is not a problem that would be caused the the strut bar.

You are way to negative, and if you are going to ask for advice dont tell the person answering you that they are wrong and tell them the right answer, then continue to ask the question over again.

i read from another forum about the struts making that sound when reversing or turning the steering wheel and going slowly, so i ask my mechanic to change that part and it solved the problem.

Where allgen?...ok have fun.

They are talking about CV joints and your car is probably too new for that...and it still would not be brought on by ham fisting the shifter from 3rd to 2nd.

You are an idiot...take your car to your mechanic in the first place and stop asking for advice here when you have no intention of listening to it.

If your problem is suspension related then it would have been doing it before you mis-shifted. Perhaps it was and you were not paying attention until after the mis-shift.

If the problem is as a result of the mis-shift it is engine or trans related.

Take it or leave it...despite the fact that I think you are an a$$hole I truly hope you did not blow your engine or damage your trans.

[Zenith]

newbies need to look for proper forum before posting
OT people should stay there
fuel cut CAN HELP prevent miss-shift damage as the engine/internals are no longer under load; however, it may or it may not.

[MISTER 2]

newbies need to look for proper forum before posting
OT people should stay there
fuel cut CAN HELP prevent miss-shift damage as the engine/internals are no longer under load; however, it may or it may not.

The injectors shut off when you lift off throttle anyway...it has nothing to do with damage that could be caused by mechanicaly over-reving the engine.

Read:
http://www.tmo.com/faq/diagport/970929.htm
Note that simply chopping fuel will not stop the overrev condition if you misshift and the transmission rotates the engine past the revlimit

[DMoneysGT]

Werd...ZeroGen, go back to your other forum if you won't listen. Just reading your responses on this thread made me laugh. You misshift racing an Explorer of all things, and then insult Mister2 when he tries to help you based on the information you've given him? Jesus...learn to deal with things man. If you want more help then you should've done what he asked...get under the car and under the hood, listen for what he told you to, and come back and share the info. you've gathered. Crying about stuff isn't gonna help you. Still not sure how it was your strut bar, but oh well...

[MISTER 2]

Werd...ZeroGen, go back to your other forum if you won't listen. Just reading your responses on this thread made me laugh. You misshift racing an Explorer of all things, and then insult Mister2 when he tries to help you based on the information you've given him? Jesus...learn to deal with things man. If you want more help then you should've done what he asked...get under the car and under the hood, listen for what he told you to, and come back and share the info. you've gathered. Crying about stuff isn't gonna help you. Still not sure how it was your strut bar, but oh well...

:thumbup:

I doubt it was the strut bar...you can spin a bearing and still get 1000 miles out of an engine...one of my co-workers did that earlier this year. The car ran for another 2-3 weeks before the engine seized.

Who knows...it is impossible to help him troubleshoot things when he won't answer simple yes or no questions and keeps insisting he already knows what the problem is.

[ZenoGenProducts]

:thumbup:

I doubt it was the strut bar...you can spin a bearing and still get 1000 miles out of an engine...one of my co-workers did that earlier this year. The car ran for another 2-3 weeks before the engine seized.

Who knows...it is impossible to help him troubleshoot things when he won't answer simple yes or no questions and keeps insisting he already knows what the problem is.

that would only mean the engine would make some weird noise and my engine did not many any weird noise at all i checked. And i bet that co worker of yours is your boyfriend who is ur room mate that you sleep with. and my car never went past the 8,000RPM redline

[ZenoGenProducts]

i misshifted once, my fuel cut off kicked in. a 7100, and jumped back to 6000. at that time i kicked the shifter into neutral. you are lucky you drive a gt.

so that is what it was, my engine felt a like it was choking at that high rev, when i misshift then i put it back in neutral and then drove back in 3rd gear for around like couple of seconds then it went back to normal

[ZenoGenProducts]

Werd...ZeroGen, go back to your other forum if you won't listen. Just reading your responses on this thread made me laugh. You misshift racing an Explorer of all things, and then insult Mister2 when he tries to help you based on the information you've given him? Jesus...learn to deal with things man. If you want more help then you should've done what he asked...get under the car and under the hood, listen for what he told you to, and come back and share the info. you've gathered. Crying about stuff isn't gonna help you. Still not sure how it was your strut bar, but oh well...

when did he ask me to get under the car and under the hood and listen? all he said was another moron who misshift his celica

[Patches]

if you have a GT, your red line is not 8,000rpm. Even the GTS red line is really 7800, our fuel cut(some years) is 8350.
Diffrent engines will behave diffrently after an overrev. Did you actually do something to your engine? No one on this board will be able to tell you, we can only make assumptions based on the info that we were given, and make asumptions based on other drivers(or our own) experences. I hope you actually did not damage your engine, but you will find out at a later time if you did or not.

good luck

[Zenith]

The injectors shut off when you lift off throttle anyway...it has nothing to do with damage that could be caused by mechanicaly over-reving the engine.

Read:
http://www.tmo.com/faq/diagport/970929.htm

i did not say it stops the car from overrevving, i said it helps a bit because the engine is no longer under load, the valves no longer have exhause gas putting forces on the exhaust valves that can hold them open, there are dramatically less forces acting on the piston itself, therfor less forces on the bearing.

[Zenith]

if you have a GT, your red line is not 8,000rpm. Even the GTS red line is really 7800, our fuel cut(some years) is 8350.
Diffrent engines will behave diffrently after an overrev. Did you actually do something to your engine? No one on this board will be able to tell you, we can only make assumptions based on the info that we were given, and make asumptions based on other drivers(or our own) experences. I hope you actually did not damage your engine, but you will find out at a later time if you did or not.

good luck
:werd:

[toyotarkeener]

I couldnt care less if this moron blows his engine. Does he really think that calling people gay is going to get him any respect on this board?

[MISTER 2]

:thumbup:

I doubt it was the strut bar...you can spin a bearing and still get 1000 miles out of an engine...one of my co-workers did that earlier this year. The car ran for another 2-3 weeks before the engine seized.

Who knows...it is impossible to help him troubleshoot things when he won't answer simple yes or no questions and keeps insisting he already knows what the problem is.

that would only mean the engine would make some weird noise and my engine did not many any weird noise at all i checked. And i bet that co worker of yours is your boyfriend who is ur room mate that you sleep with. and my car never went past the 8,000RPM redline

What is your fascination with gay people?
I am not gay, however the co-worker in question is...are you perhaps looking for a date?

My roomate is Jesse IL, and if you were not some dip$hit newbie you would know he spun a rod bearing because he was making more power than they can handle and he squished the #1

You have proven yourself useless go back to Allgen.

[ZenoGenProducts]

What is your fascination with gay people?
I am not gay, however the co-worker in question is...are you perhaps looking for a date?

My roomate is Jesse IL, and if you were not some dip$hit newbie you would know he spun a rod bearing because he was making more power than they can handle and he squished the #1

You have proven yourself useless go back to Allgen.

Yea... your not gay but you do have a room mate who you always talk about... who is a guy.. lol very suspicious and suppositly you worked on his car for him... a lot so thats how you claim to know celicas lol

[ZenoGenProducts]

I couldnt care less if this moron blows his engine. Does he really think that calling people gay is going to get him any respect on this board?

who'd ask you to care? people make mistakes he insulted me first and i never called him gay, why does your opinion matter?

[MISTER 2]

What is your fascination with gay people?
I am not gay, however the co-worker in question is...are you perhaps looking for a date?

My roomate is Jesse IL, and if you were not some dip$hit newbie you would know he spun a rod bearing because he was making more power than they can handle and he squished the #1

You have proven yourself useless go back to Allgen.

Yea... your not gay but you do have a room mate who you always talk about... who is a guy.. lol very suspicious and suppositly you worked on his car for him... a lot so thats how you claim to know celicas lol

:wtf: Clearly you have never been to college or you would not be so hung up on the idea of people splitting rent.

Actually again...if you were not a dip$hit newbie you would know that Jesse IL knows significantly more about the Celica, and automotive applications in general, than I do. If you want to talk about the 3SGTE then fine, I do consider myself quite knowledgable about them.

I don't claim to be an expert on Celica's but it is a given that just about everyone here is ahead of you since you can't even properly operate the shifter. :rolleyes:

[ZenoGenProducts]

The point is if i had did some damage to my engine then the check engine light would have came on it never came on. and i drove more then a mile after i over reved it at higher speeds

[MISTER 2]

The point is if i had did some damage to my engine then the check engine light would have came on it never came on. and i drove more then a mile after i over reved it at higher speeds

Have you driven the car since? It has been 4 days since your original post.

You would probably be able to hear rod knock with the engine at idle...or with a blip of the throttle. If the car is stopped you can eliminate suspension related components, and CV joints as possible sources of the noise.

Have you listened for the noise while out of the car? If it is still there...it is not suspension related.

[Sirk_2]

hahahaaha I love all these new morons that have migrated over to nc.org. I remember at one time this forum use to be the one that was full of the more technically inclined eager to learn people, not the I know it all children. I give your motor 4 months.

[ZenoGenProducts]

Have you driven the car since? It has been 4 days since your original post.

You would probably be able to hear rod knock with the engine at idle...or with a blip of the throttle. If the car is stopped you can eliminate suspension related components, and CV joints as possible sources of the noise.

Have you listened for the noise while out of the car? If it is still there...it is not suspension related.

i put like 50 miles on that car everyday, doesnt seem to want to break down, it drives as fast as it did before, had it check by a mechanic he said it was ok, aparently the weird noise that was making wasnt just the front struts but it was the muffler aswell it was kind of shaky exhaust thats why it makes a weird noise, i cant hear jack when i rev it up high or leave it low reved just a rattle, at 2,000 RPM and it was because this plastic piece on the winshield is missing a screw. Usually just because i hear noises doesnt nessesarily mean its the engine just because you think it is, and there is no check engine light coming up. And i didnt describe the noise it sounds like a sail ship creeking very low. could be the CV joints who knows, but all i know is if its the engine then i got warranty and just get a new engine so it wouldnt matter anyways

[MISTER 2]

What happens if you Spun a rod bearing? will the car still run and what causes it? how much does it cost to replace rod bearings?

What new information leads you to accept that it might be the rod bearings?

[tomrh3]

:chuckles: funny thread, I like how Zeno has declared numerous times that he has discovered a new cause for his noise. Mister2 and others were just giving you their best judgement of the situation.... grow up.

[MISTER 2]

:chuckles: funny thread, I like how Zeno has declared numerous times that he has discovered a new cause for his noise. Mister2 and others were just giving you their best judgement of the situation.... grow up.

The best part is that back in January I gave his engine another couple months...now yesterday he started this thread:

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=203755

What a clown! :rofl:

[Plummy]

This thread makes me giggle :D

[ftcustoms5]

who the hell races an explorer?
:faint:

[ZenoGenProducts]

The best part is that back in January I gave his engine another couple months...now yesterday he started this thread:

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=203755

What a clown! :rofl:

why are u laughing? idiot my engine still runs fine i just ask that question to know, cause i want to learn more about engine's internal component, and your diagnose is pure stupid, because it was my struts and the heat shield

[ZenoGenProducts]

:chuckles: funny thread, I like how Zeno has declared numerous times that he has discovered a new cause for his noise. Mister2 and others were just giving you their best judgement of the situation.... grow up.

i think if i had problems w/ the engine it'd be gone surely by now i put over 5,000 miles on it since this cause i been driving alot

[ZenoGenProducts]

hahahaaha I love all these new morons that have migrated over to nc.org. I remember at one time this forum use to be the one that was full of the more technically inclined eager to learn people, not the I know it all children. I give your motor 4 months.

looks like ur a moron who dont know much about celicas, its a common noise i read a thread about this noise.

[GT_TYPE_D]

stop it stop it stop it :scared: :furious: :AF: :bang: :gayfight: haha

[ZenoGenProducts]

nvm wrong post