2006 Dodge Caliber / SRT4

[larryd]

<img src="http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-images/media/jan10caliber_1.jpg">

:puke:

[LowcarbonBLue]

that is ugly

[evil eye]

Saw two used for promotion at a recent company event. Doesn't look so bad in person. I personally wouldn't buy one though. Nothing beats the ugliness of the Aztec.

[MicaCeli]

I guess the SRT4 neons will be getting a price hike.

[nemrac]

sadly, i have a friend who's in love with that car. i must slap him again.

[larryd]

I still can't believe Dodge replaced the Neon with this. Not that I was a huge neon fan but the SRT4 atleast had some respect.

[LowcarbonBLue]

I still can't believe Dodge replaced the Neon with this. Not that I was a huge neon fan but the SRT4 atleast had some respect.

They replaced the neon with this? Isn't that an SUV or something?

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

I still can't believe Dodge replaced the Neon with this. Not that I was a huge neon fan but the SRT4 atleast had some respect.


:faint:

[marc]

ugly, overweight, stupid options

for example, they're only offering certain transmissions and drivetrains with certain engines

you can't get the SRT-4 with AWD, its a 300 hp, 3000 lbs+ ugly ****wagon with FWD. The AWD only comes in the middle engine with the auto, the R/T gets FWD and a 5-speed. The 1.8 ****motor gets a CVT. Or something like that. ****it, Dodges are ugly. Even the Viper is disappointing on the inside.

[imp]

The back looks like an Aztec. And how does an suv replace a 2 door coupe?

[Carbonized_GT]

neon wasnt a 2dr

[marc]

neon wasnt a 2dr

Really?

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/1997/Dodge/667/003154-E.jpg

[larryd]

the SRT4 was not a 2 door smart ass.

[imp]

^^I forgot that..crap. Oh well, I still don't see an suv as being a good replacement for a sport sedan/coupe.

[Motor]

http://www.dieselstation.com/uploader/files/453_cuncn/Caliber-Rally-008.jpg
http://www.dieselstation.com/uploader/files/452_qnujj/Caliber-Rally-019.jpg
http://www.dieselstation.com/uploader/files/451_tawj0/Caliber-Rally-018.jpg
http://www.dieselstation.com/uploader/files/450_okm8a/Caliber-Rally-017.jpg
http://www.dieselstation.com/uploader/files/449_4ddjs/Caliber-Rally-016.jpg
http://www.dieselstation.com/uploader/files/448_scbzd/Caliber-Rally-015.jpg
http://www.dieselstation.com/uploader/files/447_muiyv/Caliber-Rally-014.jpg
http://www.dieselstation.com/uploader/files/446_autda/Caliber-Rally-013.jpg
http://www.dieselstation.com/uploader/files/445_owyle/Caliber-Rally-012.jpg
http://www.dieselstation.com/uploader/files/444_gj60k/Caliber-Rally-011.jpg
http://www.dieselstation.com/uploader/files/443_vsvvu/Caliber-Rally-010.jpg
http://www.dieselstation.com/uploader/files/442_nbqr1/Caliber-Rally-009.jpg

Discuss. :eatpop:

[Carbonized_GT]

What the fvck.

[Gas-n-Grease]

It's gonna get its ass handed by the rally xA, lol
I know this is kinda superficial, but the interior is too complete to be a rally car. its like some guy with some money decided to trick up an caliber.

[Ch33z]

Toyota can do good in Nascar...i dont think a freakin Domestic will do any good in Rally

[homeworld1031tx]

few questions:
1. why is it so low?
2. if that is the intake in the second picture, why is that so low too?
3. why did they make hte fog lights look like warts?

i know its rally and they apperance comes behind functionality, but the stock caliber isnt that bad for a hatch. they somehow destroyed it with this thing though. that is a damn good interior for a rally car though

[The__J__Factor]

This makes me want to projectile vomit

[marc]

That thing looks so weird, so crazy, its kind of cool - I mean, the base car is hideous, but it looks appropriate for rallying - because all of those cars are hideous

Toyota can do good in Nascar...i dont think a freakin Domestic will do any good in Rally


Toyota has yet to do good in NASCAR

[skalogre]

Er... THAT is a rally car? I assume for some sort of USA-based series... what class?

[Gas-n-Grease]

probably some entry level class.

[mukalicious]

i feel nauseous.

[SickCelica696]

fail.com/dodge.

It's not even a "srt caliber"

[Carbonized_GT]

Toyota can do good in Nascar...i dont think a freakin Domestic will do any good in Rally


Toyota has yet to do good in NASCAR


Technically NASCRAP extends into the truck series aswell, which Toyota has proven to be dominant.

[wtcnbrwndo4u]

Um... what's with the lights on the hood... gay.

Yeah, it's way too complete too.

[elcelicagts]

[/QUOTE]

Technically NASCRAP extends into the truck series aswell, which Toyota has proven to be dominant.
[/QUOTE]


so true, it will take over NASCRAP soon, and looking good doing it. :)


that caliber looks nice if it wasnt for the extra lights. but still its kinda of love and hate. i like it.

[MicaCeli]

I'm sure those SSR comps will do well offroad :chuckles:

[Zero]

I'm sure those SSR comps will do well offroad :chuckles:

:chuckles:

Urban off-roading?

[Acct4me]

http://www.dieselstation.com/uploader/files/446_autda/Caliber-Rally-013.jpg
http://www.dieselstation.com/uploader/files/445_owyle/Caliber-Rally-012.jpg

And I thought the Caliber couldn't look any more ghey...

[skalogre]

You call that poseur a rally car? HAH!
THIS is a rally car!

http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/uploads/1116800268/gallery_1599_33_1116956451.jpg

:gap:

:chuckles:

Urban off-roading?

Hey! That is the most challenging type of off-roading! :gap:

[SWPLGT05]

This ones not too bad either.

http://www.ilkansivu.net/Neste_Rally_Finland_2003/109_0934_EK_14_Ouninpohja_2_Petter_Solberg_ja_Phil ip_Mills_Subaru_Impreza_WRC_2003.jpg

[Motor]

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/08/21/dodge-caliber-srt4-starts-at-22-995
Dodge's compact rocketship, the Caliber SRT4, will arrive at dealers with a price tag of $22,995, the automaker has announced. In addition to the 285-horsepower/265 lb-ft turbo four tucked behind the Caliber's pugnacious mug, that sum also nets buyers the full suite of SRT performance modifications (6-speed Getrag DMT6 manual, SRT bodywork, 19" painted wheels, brake and suspension upgrades, etc.) plus an interior that features bolstered SRT-branded sport seats, a unique gauge cluster, and standard equipment like the Chill Zone cooled storage bin, illuminated cupholders, and other assorted items. Chrysler also listed the prices of three options it figures to be popular selections. A power sunroof will tack on $795, the Kicker/SRT audio system runs an additional $1,190, and 19" polished aluminum SRT wheels will carry a $400 surcharge.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/08/calibersrt4profile.jpg

Discuss. :eatpop:

[mukalicious]

pugnacious!

[esper]

...and its still a joke of a car, now just with power it can't handle.

See PT Cruiser turbo.

[lVlemphizStylez]

It will still sell...300 hp from the factory at 23k...That's very hard to beat..Pfft 285hp lol more like 285 whp...They are probably going to pull the same move they did with the previous SRT-4...Rate its power at the wheels...I wouldn't be surprised if they did it again..

[homeworld1031tx]

It will still sell...300 hp from the factory at 23k...That's very hard to beat

:werd:

awd, fwd or rwd?

[GTsRasta]

FWD. But now it's going to have more cargo space than the SRT-4. Not bad. My friend is thinking about getting one just for the sake if it being new AND fast for little money.

[enthennd]

I think it'll be a pretty good car/suv thing. And looks pretty good to me. :shrugs:

[atrac7GTS]

i bet the boys at the mustang department are shaking....their gt's aren't even a six speed, are they? i think this car will do pretty well....

[enthennd]

Their 5 speed, But the new GT's would still beat the caliber.

[Red Falcon]

Straight line speed- Check
Carge Space- Decent

Everything else- lame.

[Beast]

FWD. But now it's going to have more cargo space than the SRT-4. Not bad.

Carge Space- Decent


Don't be so sure. With the rear seats up, I bet the Celica has as much cargo space as the XB. With those wagon/hatchbacks, they have more vertical storage space, but they probably only extend a milk-crate in. Take that room, drop it on its side, and you probably have the Celica trunk.

[Burrcold]

I hated it even in stock form. Now that it's faster, I still hate it.

[marc]

that thing is ****ing hideous

for the money, you'd be retarded to take this over the MS3 or a WRX Hatch

if ugly, hatchback, turbo cars are your thing

[esper]

Its the SRT choice = the owners know theyre not ncie cars but they jsut want to go fast for cheap.

IMO its SLIGHTLY less embarrassing than the neon srt-4. but still awful.

I dont want a 300hp FWD car. I don't even want a 200HP FWD car. If I had to pick from any of the fwd cars on the market today i'd probably take a civic SI, at least the design is interesting and its not dealing with more hp than the chassis or layout can even hold.

[lVlemphizStylez]

Its the SRT choice = the owners know theyre not ncie cars but they jsut want to go fast for cheap.

IMO its SLIGHTLY less embarrassing than the neon srt-4. but still awful.



These are your opinions and you're entitled to them...but IMO someone in a WAGON calling a Neon embarrassing seems a bit out of place...

[Haulin]

Bfugly

[marc]

Its the SRT choice = the owners know theyre not ncie cars but they jsut want to go fast for cheap.

IMO its SLIGHTLY less embarrassing than the neon srt-4. but still awful.


These are your opinions and you're entitled to them...but IMO someone in a WAGON calling a Neon embarrassing seems a bit out of place...


the Neon screams "CHEAP!" - its the modern day equivalent of those old Camaros and Mustangs - go as fast as possible in a straight line and every other element of the car be damned.

teh Subaru wagonz scream "ACTIVE LIFESTYLE"

or lesbian

I'm not sure which one Esper is

Its the SRT choice = the owners know theyre not ncie cars but they jsut want to go fast for cheap.

IMO its SLIGHTLY less embarrassing than the neon srt-4. but still awful.

I dont want a 300hp FWD car. I don't even want a 200HP FWD car. If I had to pick from any of the fwd cars on the market today i'd probably take a civic SI, at least the design is interesting and its not dealing with more hp than the chassis or layout can even hold.


I agree with this. My EG Civic coupe feels like its going to explode at full throttle, and it probably only has 185 bhp

[neological]

These are your opinions and you're entitled to them...but IMO someone in a WAGON calling a Neon embarrassing seems a bit out of place...
WTF.

Impreza wagons = awesome.

There is no comparing a WRX wagon to a SRT. A WRX wagon manages to keep a similar weight and rigidity to the stock WRX and add a crapload of utility. There are all sorts of wagons that are perfectly acceptable.

SRTs are always ghey.

[lVlemphizStylez]

those are your opinions and I said you're entitled to them...Don't take it personal..cause I really don't care all that much. But me including many others when we see a wagon we don't even really take it seriously...Even if it is fast...Wagon says mom-mobile to me. But that's just my opinion...Hell it might be equivalent to the Sedan, but it's still not garnering as much recognition as the Sedan. I'm sure you know that. SRT's may be gay to you, but a wagon says queer to me, so different strokes for different folks...But I can bet 9/10 times you'll take that "gay SRT" seriously, before I take that queer wagon seriously....

And my Neon blue books around the same price as many WRX sedan's...It just made more power for the money...They sold new at around 20-21k, what did the WRX sedan sell new for?? 25k probably?? I wouldn't say it's that far off to call it CHEAP in comparison to the WRX...

[neological]

those are your opinions and I said you're entitled to them...Don't take it personal..cause I really don't care all that much. But me including many others when we see a wagon we don't even really take it seriously...Even if it is fast...Wagon says mom-mobile to me. But that's just my opinion...Hell it might be equivalent to the Sedan, but it's still not garnering as much recognition as the Sedan. I'm sure you know that. SRT's may be gay to you, but a wagon says queer to me, so different strokes for different folks...But I can bet 9/10 times you'll take that "gay SRT" seriously, before I take that queer wagon seriously....

I take that back. An SRT-4 doesn't as much say "ghey" to me as "hick" or "on a budget." I don't take myself too seriously on this point, I think an Evo says "*******" or "prick."

I don't take either of them "seriously" because:

A: I don't street race, so when I see them on the street the only thing that registers to me is "look, a car."

B: Neither vehicle is comptetitive in my Autocross class. Not that they couldn't be, they just aren't. I don't drag race so I don't see many SRT-4s in a legal, competitive environment.

So neither car really causes much of a reaction.

And my Neon blue books around the same price as many WRX sedan's...It just made more power for the money...They sold new at around 20-21k, what did the WRX sedan sell new for?? 25k probably?? I wouldn't say it's that far off to call it CHEAP in comparison to the WRX...

The WRX has power rear windows.

There are a lot of factors that make up the cost difference, not the least of which is that the WRX is AWD.

In all seriousness, I respect the neon's straight line speed but that car is kind of kludged together. It isn't even close to nice, it just accelerates well. If you happen to be in situations where you need to accelerate quickly and traction isn't an issue (ie: highway racing) then the SRT-4 is a great car. So are the GTi and the Mazdaspeed 3 in that respect.

[marc]

These are your opinions and you're entitled to them...but IMO someone in a WAGON calling a Neon embarrassing seems a bit out of place...
WTF.

Impreza wagons = awesome.

There is no comparing a WRX wagon to a SRT. A WRX wagon manages to keep a similar weight and rigidity to the stock WRX and add a crapload of utility. There are all sorts of wagons that are perfectly acceptable.

SRTs are always ghey.


Impreza wagons actually handle better than the sedans because of the extra weight in the rear

[GTsRasta]

Fcuk Subaru wagon sh!t. This is the turbo wagon you want to have:

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/autoreview/400x266/1993-97-Volvo-850-94904071000112.jpg

Volvo powa for teh win y0o0o0!11111!!!!!

[marc]

Fcuk Subaru wagon sh!t. This is the turbo wagon you want to have:

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/autoreview/400x266/1993-97-Volvo-850-94904071000112.jpg

Volvo powa for teh win y0o0o0!11111!!!!!


you'd be surprised how ridiculously fast some of those cars are

www.turbobricks.com

[GTsRasta]

Haha, exactly.

[GSBoek]

Minus the osterizer blade wheels.

[calidrifter]

23k?!?!? you can get a used Evo 8 for around that price

[lVlemphizStylez]

yeah, it's not NEW....that's a NEW car with probably more whp stock than an Evo 8...

[enthennd]

23k?!?!? you can get a used Evo 8 for around that price
Never buy a used evo/sti...

[marc]

23k?!?!? you can get a used Evo 8 for around that price
Never buy a used turbo car...


fixed

[Motor]

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=122412
[QUOTE]First Impressions:
Not as hard-core as the Neon-based SRT-4 it replaces, the Caliber SRT-4 is still cheap and powerful.

* 285 horsepower
* Six-speed manual transmission
* 155-mph top speed
* $22,995 base price

$81/hp
All right, so maybe $23 grand doesn't seem all that cheap for a Caliber, Dodge's hunchback small car. But how does $23 grand for 285 horsepower sound? Better, we would think.

That kind of number takes front-drive sport compacts to a new level of absurd power. Even the mighty Mazdaspeed 3, winner of two Inside Line comparison tests, makes 263. After that, nothing comes close for the same amount of coin. Not the Honda Civic Si (197 hp), not the Subaru WRX (224) and not the VW GTI (200).

Dodge starts with the 2.4-liter DOHC four-cylinder that powers the Caliber R/T. We were not particularly impressed by this motor when we tested an AWD version of the Caliber R/T some time ago. It posted a sluglike 10.1-second 0-60-mph time. Although the Caliber R/T's continuously variable transmission was a large part of the problem, the engine looked better on paper than it felt on the test track.

The solution? A big ol' Mitsubishi TD04 turbocharger. The turbocharger, along with a freer-flowing intake, an intercooler and a fat 3-inch exhaust system bring an additional 113 hp to the table. The original Omni GLH (non-turbo) made a whopping 110 peak hp.

Internal engine mods include pistons cooled by oil squirters and mounted to forged connecting rods. Specific injectors flow more fuel (high octane recommended). And an external oil cooler keeps the Mobil 1 synthetic from getting too toasty. The engine cranks out 265 pound-feet of torque beginning at 2,000 rpm.

The engine feels strong, with that familiar turbo-motor swell of power, but it doesn't feel that much stronger than the Mazdaspeed 3's mill, which turns out a sick 280 lb-ft of torque. But we believe Dodge when it says that the SRT-4 will get to 60 mph in "the low 6-second range." The front-drive six-speed Mazda will do the deed in 6.1 seconds. The new Subaru WRX, with a relatively paltry 224 horsepower and a five-speed will get to 60 mph in 5.9 seconds. This leads us to the issue more important than peak horsepower numbers.

Power to the Pavement
All that fat turbo power is routed through a dual mass flywheel to a Getrag six-speed manual transmission through a brake lock differential and onto 19-inch front wheels shod with Goodyear F1 Supercar tires. The result of this is our old pal torque steer.

We're not just digging on Dodge here. To try to quell the squirreliness, Mazda electronically limits torque output in the Mazdaspeed 3's low gears. Launching the all-wheel-drive WRX aggressively might be abusive to the powertrain, but the results speak for themselves.

If the options are (A) torque steer or (B) less torque, we'll take A. Actually, we'll take a rear-wheel-drive car, but that's not what we're talking about here.

Stab the SRT-4's throttle and as the turbo-juiced power swells, the steering starts making decisions on its own, and they're never good ones. If you're driving on a crowned road or you're riding in truck troughs when you stomp the throttle, well, just be prepared.

The SRT-4 will top out at 155 mph.

The cable-operated six-speed requires some muscle to shift and lacks the slick mechanical feel of a Honda or Mazda shifter, but works reasonably well. And the shifter's position, sticking out of the lower part of dash, is more comfortable than it looks.

Big Wheel
And the SRT-4's ride quality is better than we expected of a sport-ified economy car riding on huge 19-inch wheels. We traversed some seriously lumpy two-lane surfaces in rural Indiana and the SRT-4 was never a chore to drive. The tall body is reasonably well controlled and roll is reduced considerably from a standard-issue Caliber.

Dodge lowered the MacPherson front suspension 1.1 inches and dropped the multilink independent rear 0.87 inch. Specifically tuned ZF Sachs dampers are used and carry stiffer springs than those on a stock Caliber. The 24mm-thick front antiroll bar is the same as that of the Caliber R/T. Dodge has increased the thickness of the rear bar (to 18mm) in an effort to reduce understeer. This is largely successful, as the SRT-4 is a neutral-handling machine up to very high cornering speeds.

The brakes, upgraded to 13.4-inch rotors up front and 11.9-inch rotors in back, are stellar. The car we test-drove wore special track-worthy pads SRT says are available through Mopar performance parts but not as a regular option. They felt strong, steady and powerful throughout a day of hard driving.

Our time beating up the Caliber SRT-4 on the bucolic Putnam Park racecourse was genuinely fun, even if the Caliber feels strangely tall and upright for track use. The only major complaint we have about the car's racetrack performance is the inability to put all the power down at corner exits.

We would prefer a proper mechanical limited-slip differential to the SRT-4's traction-control-based arrangement. With the so-called Brake Lock Differential, a wheel speed sensor detects wheelspin and applies the brake to that side to force the transfer of power to the other side. As a rule, we think that applying the brakes to make forward progress is the wrong approach.

The Caliber comes with a full complement of other electronic chassis systems including antilock brakes, traction control and electronic stability control

[Punkers7465]

"It's also unusual-looking, and by unusual we mean fugly."

[marc]

that thing is a travesty

[Red Falcon]

The new car for dodge magnum owners.

[neological]

3,189 lbs?

WTF is that thing made out of, pig iron?

[GTsRasta]

I like it, in the Scion xB kind of way...but with a ton of more hp and potential.

[GSBoek]

Pokemon on steroids, no thanks. I have a feeling there's a whole new wave of rice coming once these things depreciate.

[Rico6983]

no thanks, I will stick with my slowica

[neological]

I like it, in the Scion xB kind of way...but with a ton of more hp and potential.
Not much potential. It has a high center of gravity and weighs 800 pounds more than a Z. It's hard to fix those problems with mods.

[enthennd]

Yep I think It's faster than it sounds. 0-60 5.5 seconds.

http://www.caliberforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4615

[Burrcold]

Ugly. FWD. No LSD. Boxy minivan look. Torque steer.

Doesn't interest me at all.

[jlitman]

"It puts the fug in fugly." That should be the tagline :chuckles:

[Blue Bomber]

Not much potential. It has a high center of gravity and weighs 800 pounds more than a Z. It's hard to fix those problems with mods. You mean a Z weighs almost 200 lbs more than a Caliber, right? :wtf: Unless we're not talking about a 350Z...

[lVlemphizStylez]

I'm a little disappointed...If it's no faster than the previous SRT4 (from what Dodge says)...Then eh...

[Meltica]

MAYBE in black so you can't really see that horrid redneck gunsight grill.

[lVlemphizStylez]

MAYBE in black so you can't really see that horrid redneck gunsight grill.

show me ANY SRT vehicle without the crosshairs in the grill....They wouldn't get rid of that because it's a trademark of the line...The viper has it, the old SRT4 had it, the Charger and Magnum have it, even the SRT10 truck has it...

[marc]

MAYBE in black so you can't really see that horrid redneck gunsight grill.

show me ANY SRT vehicle without the crosshairs in the grill....They wouldn't get rid of that because it's a trademark of the line...The viper has it, the old SRT4 had it, the Charger and Magnum have it, even the SRT10 truck has it...


the jeep
the 300c
the crossfire

[lVlemphizStylez]

hmm point taken...only SRT out of that lineup I respect is the 300c though...And Jeep WAYYYYY before the crossfire...I should have said all the DODGE SRT's you see sport the crosshairs..The Jeep and Chrysler ones seem not to....

[Meltica]

^^ I know, it's just UGLY.

[skalogre]

Not surprised. Not at all surprised. This IS Dodge, after all. Finesse is not something anyone should expect from them. I mean in some ways it is closer to the Viper than anything else in that it makes up for its looks and weight with stupid amounts of power. Only unlike a Viper it is unable to take advantage of it - like the Neon SRT-4 - plus would be even more embarrassing to be seen in. Sheesh.

Reminds me of the Alfa Romeo 147 GTA review on Top Gear. The thing was so overpowered that it was constantly fighting to get the power from that heavy (albeit glorious) V6 down to the front wheels.

[marc]

Not surprised. Not at all surprised. This IS Dodge, after all. Finesse is not something anyone should expect from them. I mean in some ways it is closer to the Viper than anything else in that it makes up for its looks and weight with stupid amounts of power. Only unlike a Viper it is unable to take advantage of it - like the Neon SRT-4 - plus would be even more embarrassing to be seen in. Sheesh.

Reminds me of the Alfa Romeo 147 GTA review on Top Gear. The thing was so overpowered that it was constantly fighting to get the power from that heavy (albeit glorious) V6 down to the front wheels.


excellent point - I would be embarrassed to be seen in that car by friends, clients, or even strangers, no matter how fast it was.

[Beast]

plus would be even more embarrassing to be seen in.

This. You can picture yourself sitting in one, and then having people in a car drive by, point, and laugh at you. Well, unless it was a Neon owner. Their passengers would probably manually roll down their rear windows and give you a thumbs up.

[lVlemphizStylez]

excellent point - I would be embarrassed to be seen in that car by friends, clients, or even strangers, no matter how fast it was.

imagine the embarrassment if it were to beat you in a competitive environment...Only defense would be "Well it's still ugly, and it's still a Caliber". I personally wouldnt buy one, but Im going to respect it for what it's capable of...Cause after one stomps the brakes off your car there isnt much you can say without looking bitter and broken..I find the new Mustangs unattractive....But I respect them..

[Beast]

excellent point - I would be embarrassed to be seen in that car by friends, clients, or even strangers, no matter how fast it was.

imagine the embarrassment if it were to beat you in a competitive environment...Only defense would be "Well it's still ugly, and it's still a Caliber". I personally wouldnt buy one, but Im going to respect it for what it's capable of...Cause after one stomps the brakes off your car there isnt much you can say without looking bitter and broken..I find the new Mustangs unattractive....But I respect them..


A person deserves respect, not a car. You can appreciate the Caliber for what it is, but in the end, it's still an ugly piece of crap. I'm saying the same thing about the $1 million euro Lambo. Sure it has oodles of power. If it was within my price range, I'd still pass.

[marc]

excellent point - I would be embarrassed to be seen in that car by friends, clients, or even strangers, no matter how fast it was.

imagine the embarrassment if it were to beat you in a competitive environment...Only defense would be "Well it's still ugly, and it's still a Caliber". I personally wouldnt buy one, but Im going to respect it for what it's capable of...Cause after one stomps the brakes off your car there isnt much you can say without looking bitter and broken..I find the new Mustangs unattractive....But I respect them..


A person deserves respect, not a car. You can appreciate the Caliber for what it is, but in the end, it's still an ugly piece of crap. I'm saying the same thing about the $1 million euro Lambo. Sure it has oodles of power. If it was within my price range, I'd still pass.


not to mention there is no competitive environment that I would be caught dead in where a Caliber (or any tall, tippy, overweight FWD torque monster) stands a chance of winning anything.

[Beast]

imagine the embarrassment if it were to beat you in a competitive environment...Only defense would be "Well it's still ugly, and it's still a Caliber". I personally wouldnt buy one, but Im going to respect it for what it's capable of...Cause after one stomps the brakes off your car there isnt much you can say without looking bitter and broken..I find the new Mustangs unattractive....But I respect them..


A person deserves respect, not a car. You can appreciate the Caliber for what it is, but in the end, it's still an ugly piece of crap. I'm saying the same thing about the $1 million euro Lambo. Sure it has oodles of power. If it was within my price range, I'd still pass.


not to mention there is no competitive environment that I would be caught dead in where a Caliber (or any tall, tippy, overweight FWD torque monster) stands a chance of winning anything.


Maybe "competetive environment" means racing on a highway for 10 seconds vs. a corolla.

[marc]

NEWSFLASH

You don't get Chrysler's 10 year warranty on SRT models!

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/chryslers-lifetime-warranty-always-read-the-fine-print/

[Boosted2.0]

Wow - that things looks like a vibe only uglier.

what a waste of a powertrain. Someone needs to explain the MR sportscar concept to the boys at dodge.

[peeper06]

I like the wheels...

Thats it.

[GSBoek]

^ To the risk of sounding repetitive: I like the door handles. For proper translation see other posts where I said I liked door handles :chuckles:

[2000 XYR]

NEWSFLASH

You don't get Chrysler's 10 year warranty on SRT models!
That's not a newsflash, it says that in the fine print every time they say that in their ad.

I think that whole 10 year warranty thing will bite them in the ass in about 6-7 years when all the cars are falling apart.

[marc]

NEWSFLASH

You don't get Chrysler's 10 year warranty on SRT models!
That's not a newsflash, it says that in the fine print every time they say that in their ad.

I think that whole 10 year warranty thing will bite them in the ass in about 6-7 years when all the cars are falling apart.


I doubt it

considering Cerberus will most likely strip and flip (already started) Chrysler in the next 3-4 years, so they probably won't exist by then.

[lVlemphizStylez]

no the catch is...lifetime powertrain warranty but they can dance around what they diagnose your car for and claim its something else when its not to exclude your repair from warranty work

[Motor]

Update!

Chrysler ends production of Caliber (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20111224/AUTO01/112240319/1148)
Chrysler Group LLC ended production of the much-maligned Dodge Caliber this week, the last of the econoboxes introduced by Detroit's Big Three during the past decade that came to symbolize a failed strategy in the domestic auto industry.
http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20111224&Category=AUTO01&ArtNo=112240319&Ref=AR&Profile=1148&MaxW=640&Border=0&Chrysler-ends-production-Caliber

It's dead!