need a little help w/ a speech i'm givin...

[2000gts2000]

ok, i gotta give a speech about a genuine problem and i gotta back it up w/ some proof. I'm thinkin about going w/ the fact that the gt-s has a weak oil pump. from what i understand, the celica was made for autocross racing, but w/ the weak oil pump, you run the risk of blowing the engine due to oil starvation if u keep the rpm's too high for too long. my question is, has anybody read from any good sources about this? is there even enough information about this out there about this to have a good speech? id appreciate any and all info you guys got. thanks.

[celica2k]

that's an interesting speech topic. I dont know if it's a genuine problem though.

[Blue Bomber]

The problem is more from sustained high Gs than continual high revs. Oil in the oil pan sloshes to one side, away from the pickup, allowing air into the oil pump which can easily damage it.

[2000gts2000]

^^ sweet, thaks for the info. are there any kind of sources on this besidedes postes on the forums? thanks again for your help.

[Blue Bomber]

^^ sweet, thaks for the info. are there any kind of sources on this besidedes postes on the forums? thanks again for your help.
Yup, on page 7:

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3488

It says the oil pan is good for up to 1.0G, which you can easily surpass just by putting on sticky tires, or even on high speed sweeping turns.

[patsfan]

The Lotus Elise and Exige have the same motor as the GTS and pull way more than 1.0G. Look into what's different about the Lotus setup...

[2000gts2000]

Yup, on page 7:

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3488

It says the oil pan is good for up to 1.0G, which you can easily surpass just by putting on sticky tires, or even on high speed sweeping turns.

GREAT! that's exactly what i was lookin for, u're a great help. There's just somethin else i need. after this speech i gotta give next week, i gotta give a follow up speech on how to solve the problem the week after, is there anything out there that says what we can do to solve the problem, or is it simply just a matter of not making any 1.0G turns? Thanks again for your help, blue bomber. if anybody else has any links or anything like that for this, i'd greatly appreciate it, i need 4 sources for this speech and i could only fine like one other source besides this. you guys on this site are friggin life saver, thanks!

[Blue Bomber]

Simple solution: a baffled oil pan. It's basically a regular pan with walls built in around the oil pickup, and little doors built into each wall to allow oil flow only towards the pickup. I know Brash Boy makes/made one (based off the stock oil pan):

http://www.newcelica.org/partscatalog/images/installed/brashboyoilpan1.jpg

And Moroso also makes one with added oil capacity (new design, completely fabricated):

http://monkeywrenchracing.com/cgi-bin/image/templates/oilpanside.jpg
http://monkeywrenchracing.com/mwr_moroso_oil_pan_toyota_zz.html

[2000gts2000]

^^ dude, u're the absolute friggin best!!! thanks for the help!

[blkcelica01]

^^ dude, u're the absolute friggin best!!!

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[MISTER 2]

ok, i gotta give a speech about a genuine problem and i gotta back it up w/ some proof. I'm thinkin about going w/ the fact that the gt-s has a weak oil pump. from what i understand, the celica was made for autocross racing, but w/ the weak oil pump, you run the risk of blowing the engine due to oil starvation if u keep the rpm's too high for too long. my question is, has anybody read from any good sources about this? is there even enough information about this out there about this to have a good speech? id appreciate any and all info you guys got. thanks.

You might want to double check your topic with your teacher.
I don't think that it qualifies as a "genuine problem".

Toyota did not design the Celica for any type of racing. It is a street car designed for normal street driving.

Under ALL normal condidions the OEM oil pan is just fine.
Under EXTREEME conditions is where the problem presents itself.

The person doing the Auto-Xing is creating the problem, and therefore must come up with a proper solution to that problem.

I think you would have a difficult time convincing the AVERAGE person that there is an inherrient problem that is not User-Specific, and User-Created.