Anyone riding on airbags?

[LiqSilv01]

I'm lookin to get this done very soon and wonderin how the celica rides using it, and how much did you spend when you were all finished? Thanks in advance.

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

Ur not gona be able to go over 65mph you know that right.

[LiqSilv01]

I'm not sure my auto gt can go over 65, LOL. I know, it's all show, I don't do any racing or anything.

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

Not flaming, but the thing that makes the Celica such a good car... is its handling. Now you'll have as much handling as a Chevy Sprint.

[2kcelicaGT]

i thought the handling was pretty good with air bags, we are talking about adjustable ones right? and you cant go over 65?? hmm, i want more details, cause i was thinking about getting these someday, thanks

[celiboy07]

Air ride would be tite. I get so jealous seeing these Accords and Ingetras with their Canover air rides...

[yota_racer]

You can get a racing setup that will give you great handling, and allow you to exceed 65 MPH. It does cost a few hundred more from what I am told though.

[LiqSilv01]

What would be an average price for this? My local hook-up doesnt do air-ride but he sent me somewhere that quoted me $1200 give or take a little.

[nccelica]

air ride can be quite comfortable and can handle really really well if youg et the right setup

a 1200 setup sounds like the simplest, just up and down and probably not fast bags

fast bags or cylinders are the best you can get

[EVILLL1]

Air ride is nice. Make sure the shop your having it done at has done air ride before. You need to make sure you us Electric valves and not manual valves. Electric valves you hear the air outside the car plus they are faster.Also make sure that were your gauges are going to go the fitings for them are not in a tight area do to the valves could leak real bad. My best friend had air done to his 90 Prelude and the cauges were in the glove box but the only prob was you had to drive with the glove box open so that the valves would not break or crip the line. Also you need to use a thicker line than what comes with most kits do to how long some setups take to raise. I would use 3/4 BFGoodridge line. Also if you want to still have some handling for a little extra you can put balists in for the front and rear so that if you are turning in a corner it forces the air into the opposite side for better cornering. Make sure to get a good size tank and pump. Depending on if your are also going to drive it all the time also make sure to get a water trap for the tank to help keep the moisture out of the tank and lines. You will also have to spray a lubricante on the cylinders shaft so that it does not seize up. Other than that if it is done right you will enjoy the ride and the attention you get at shows if it is slammed on the ground. And with air ride if you don't like it unbolt it and put the factory suspension back in.

[uncut34]

i have air ride on my car i have air cyclinders not bags thought. bags are slow. but i have to make cusotem brackets on the back for mine to sit even. most people will probibly just put bags and the bag and cyclinders in the front on celica. i would have sombody put in on that knows that there doing like a shop that has done a strut car before. as for the cant gove over 65 maybe if you have bag in the front that might be true cuase its to bouce but my friend has bags on his truck and we have rolled 80 when i was in there before fine. and if you get air cyclinders have went 105 in mine its just a ruff ride without accumulators. i hope some of this helps

[juicedcelica]

Most people in this forum obviously do not understand to much about adjustable suspension. they do make an air bag kit for a mac pherson strut it is not specifly for the celica but will work as for the rear end something might have to be fabricated the stock mounting points do not allow for much room but a air bag and custom brackets could very easily be fabricated to fit int he rear. As far as not being able to do over 65 LMFAO I have had hydraulics on my celica for almost 2 years now I have hit the govenor on the car if the suspension is installed right it provides the same stability as the factor suspension as far as handling goes they are right you will loose alot of the handling but something must be sacraficed to accomplish perfection
http://www.teradream.com/aonaz/gumby/MVC-018S.JPG here is a pic of the second build up of my Celica if you need any help I would be more than happy to help you along the way with getting your Celica on an air ride

[TRDGTS026spd]

sorry juicedcelica dude... but man.. that is the most stupid thing ive ever seen anyone do to a celica.... i think id rather see a pink one with a identity crisis .... type R stickers.... DOHC VTEC on the side.......GT-R skyline badge..... you F*cked up a good car

[TRDGTS026spd]

ohhh and how is loosing handling getting you closer to perfection? its going to get you closer to an a$$ beating from another celica owner ....stupid f*cker.....

[juicedcelica]

you racer's are a little more closed minded then I thought. style is all in who owns the vehicle. you have to remember the celica does not have parts readily availible like honda's I did most of thes modifications before they even made an intake for the celica so while you keep buying bolt on's that I already have I am going to continue pushing the envelope with my car if you don't like it F@*k you I drive it it's my car it's my money open you mind a little bit don't hate it becuase it's not your style. I even have a turbo being custom made for my car as we speak so until you have a little more than a bolton here and a bolt on there quite crying about what I did or why I did all I care about is show and how many features I get I've already been featured in one magazine and should have another few coming more than likley cover's what about you do you have an real success in your build up? . not every one cares about speed I get enough ticket's on my R1. remember while your speeding past me I'm going to stop and pick up your girls ..as for liqsilv01 I'm sorry that this is happening on your post I just wanted to offer a little light on the subject don't listen to some of these people they believe if it's not what they want then it shouldn't be done if that was the case every one who own's a Celica is wrong for not buying a honda to race out since they were the first company that the import race scene started over.

[caz]

Yeah man I'm sorry but I have to agree... No flames but you really ruined a beautiful car. Whatever makes you happy...... I guess :ugh:

[dx3162]

Hey man if you want something with bags you could always buy my bagged S-10. Selling her cuz i bought a 00 GTS. If you want a good handling ride, I definitely recommend aid cylinders over air bags. The bags dont ride TOO horrible, and arent real bouncy, but it handles like ****. Cylinders, from what I have seen, give a ride more like a vechile on lowering springs w/stock shocks...hard and bouncy, but certainly corner better. Cylinders also tend to be faster w/smaller lines than bags. You might also want to look at getting an accumulator (air expansion chamber) T-'d into the front & rear for a better ride. Also, I don't know where people are getting the 65mph idea. The bagged S-10 has never had a problem hitting the 96mph speed govenor.

[nccelica]

i think gumby did something different and i give him a thumbs up for it, it may not be my style but its definitly got its on appeal, i just think u should of shaved the sidemarkers too :)

[TRDGTS026spd]

with that color??? hahahaha... only thing your picking up is elton john

[FriedRice]

i dont know why u guys are so negative about this. someone asked for help for bags and this guy helped. and he posted a pic of his setup. if u invested sooo much time and energy and money as this guy has done, and u came onto a board and got ur ass laughed at, u'd be pretty unhappy too. this guy seems even tempered otherwise it would be a full-blown argument rite now.

so he did something different and it doesnt agree with your taste. its not your car, u never have to see it again. to each his own, remember? i personally dont like the color, but its his car. this is something different other than the kit, with I/E/H/drop/rims. its still a CELICA guys, isnt that all that matters?

[Archon_Ninja]

Back, to the topic... If you guys are in the cali area, look up the evo 3 kit. It is an air ride suspension made for the mcpherson struts and i believe for the celica. Could someone look that up for me, i had a hook up down there but, i kinda lost touch with them.

[Redline]

Originally posted by juicedcelica

http://www.teradream.com/aonaz/gumby/MVC-018S.JPG here is a pic of the second build up of my Celica if you need any help I would be more than happy to help you along the way with getting your Celica on an air ride

poor poor celi.... :wtc: i feel its pain...

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

My whole thing is... why take the amazing suspension this car comes with an ruin it. The best part of this car... besides its lack of aftermarket (yeah right!) is its handling. Anyone that rides in my Celi just loves the way the car feels. Don't ruin it. If you want all show then... i dunno.. get a Acura Legend and do a Skyline conversion on it will cost you just as much as u paid for you celica.

[LiqSilv01]

oo dark star oo: Like I said this car is only for show, I've had it for about 7 months now and it has less than 3,000 miles on it. I don't drive it during the week so why would I care about the handling? It handles fine just sitting at a show, and will look a lot better sitting on the ground with the air ride. I understand the celica has great handling but I don't need it, but thanks for being on the lookout for me in the longrun.


Redline and others who have helped, Thanks a lot for shining some light on the subject, and I like the fact that your ride is totally different.

Oh yeah, how much would a good air ride system cost? Do I need to save a lot more than $1200?

[FriedRice]

think 5k....its pretty steep.

[fxurgrl]

it's gumby I just have a different S.N. from home... the kit should be right around 1200 maybe 1800 installed depending on what type of valves and compressors you get. Dark starr let me singl yo out for a minute with a qestion why did you get your Celica??? I bet it was to be different I bet it might have had something to do with getting away from honda's and acura's and creating your own style...am I close??? Thats why I got my Celica I bout it new I own it now no loan no lease I have paid for everything I did to my car I have every thing you have and then alot more my car has been inthe shop for 9 months getting re-vamped it probably tookyou 3 or 4 days if you put them all togther to install every thng you have mine took 2 years and I'm not done. to be truly honest with you if you new anything about suspension and that was your main focus of hating my car you buy a honda but not a new one mac pherson stuts are one of the worst types camber is barley adjutable the rear is great you right on that but a honda is fulla adjustable becuase of the control arms it's also more stable so you go buy a honda. fried rice thanks for having an open mind . I haven't been to this page in almost a year because most of the people were so closed minded and talked out there a$$ I see not much has changed. every one bought a Celica to be diferent and get away from the "normal import racer profile" but then 90% of the people will critise myself becuase I wanted to be different then everyone else I didn't want to race I wanted to show, the Celica is a wonderful car and to my nolidgeI have the only celica with a full shave I have the only celica with hydraulics whats wrong with building something one of a kind is it becuase I don't conform to your idea's on whats right or wrong?

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

I got my Celica because since the All Trac came out all I've ever wanted was a Celica. I have Celica brochures from 1988-2002 I'm obsessed with the car. I got the Celica not to be different, but because out of all the cars I test drove this one felt the best. I want to go fast and the GT has to potential to swat any honda on the street and I plan to take it there.

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

Originally posted by LiqSilv01
but thanks for being on the lookout for me in the longrun.


I feel yah I understand what you're going to do. Just don't kill it make it look good!!!

[fxurgrl]

Originally posted by Oo DaRk StAr oO
the GT has to potential to swat any honda on the street and I plan to take it there.

thats sweet bro you finally got you celica if you have brocher's back to 88 you must be what 30 something it's about time. you say you plan on taking your gt to the point were you can swat any honda. Thats amazing your car is not there and you are talking trash to me . I'm 22 bro look were I'm at I've had my Celica 2 years I've had one magazine oct/nov Euro Lowrider check it out. I've had pictures of the car in mini truckin twice... what about you oh those features were before the color change so when I get my next shoots and all you see is my celica on the magazine rack remember you got faded. I must be doing something right if I am getting published but I forgot you don't like the car becuase I am not playing RACER X with you I should just blow up my car and tell the magazines you don't like it and I quit.... It's punks like you who push me to mod out my car more and more I bet with a 15 minute pressure adjustment to my accumulator's I could beat your GT on any road and thats with 2 chrome pumps, 4 batteries and all of the steal for the rack in the trunk but thats becuase I already have my bolt on's . My car right now rides perfect if you new anything about what you talk about you might sound half way intelligent but since you don't I will help you out I have accumulators they are nitrogen bladers that create a very soft or stiff ride this is done by adjusting the pressure in the accumulator I gaurentee my car rides far more comfortable than yours does but then again I have riden in a celica with lowerd springs and I drive my car daily so I can make a judgement call based on an actual experiance not just an opinion based on your opinion of dr dre videos

Gumby
Art Of Noize
2K celica and trdgts026spd's mom
hey trdgts026spd tell your girl I'll pick her up when you go to bed

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

hahahaaa!!!! I'm 20. I don't have lowering springs, I dont watch Dr. Dre Videos, I'm not playing Racer X, and other stereotypes. You know I think the problems is that you get mad at people and go off and them, and then they get so mad at you for just being an @ss that they don't give you props. Never said your car was ugly like others are yet your attacking me. Well, hey If you wana come race me be my guest... but then that would made you Racer X also. Wow, you're in a magazine I'm so faded I am going to go cry because I want to be in a Low Rider magazine in a Japanese car. Sorry bro you're not hurting my feelings or my intelligence because honestly... I don't care. Obviously your insecure with yourself so you use your car to make you feel so good. LOOK AT ME IM IN A MAGAZINE AND YOUR NOT NANANANNA! Cute. Oh yeah, Let me see your car take on an S2000 or an NSX. Thats what I'm going through I don't waste my time on Hybrids.

Matt

[juicedcelica]

first of all matt I didn't attack you I pointed out were your theory of ruining suspension was wrong. it is apparent that you have a lack of knowledge on the subject but yet you run your mouth any way. Yes, I stereo typed you...why??? because you stereo type myself and my car all you know of hydraulics is what you have heard I am sure you have never experianced them before so how should you no any better, but then again if you don't know any better then why do you speak on the subject. you originally posted you would not be able to go over 65 if air bags are installed why did you post a comment on a subject you do not know about??? the air bag kits for a mac pherson strut are made from an originall strut with a bag fabricated to fit over it there for making it every bit as sturdy as the strut with a spring in it!!!! why would he not be able to go oever 65??? do you think the air bags is filled with hot air and will gain lift at speeds over 65 since the car does not have wings do you feel it would not be safe to fly it. the comments you have made have proven you hold absolutley no knowledge on the subject I gave feed back based on a system I have used and installed I also have installed and riden in mac pherson strut cars with air bag systems this giving me the ability to post a reply liqsil01 could take and use in helping him make his or her decision on what is going to happen with the Celica in question. I'm not worried about peoples opinions of weather or not they like the car I have built every one has an opinion you have ever try to make your opinion fact becuase you believe it, that is why I single you out. as far as taking s2000 and nsx's I can't I won't stret racing first of all is elligale but most importantly it's dangerous you think because you know were the gas, brake and clutch are that you know how to drive keep it on the track you don't risk your self on the street you risk people trying to go home to there family or people trying to go out and have a good time accidents happen don't make the whole import scene look bad because you want to race . I think you represent wctoyotasports horrible and should remove that from your singniture you are niether noligable or friendly and I can't see you as being trusted for any of your post on this page

[Drex]

Hey Juiced dont listen to the flamers that have nothing better to do than dis someone's car because that someone wants to be original. I think your car looks great actually; the green with white rims looks nice.

[TRDGTS026spd]

different doesnt mean gay.... im backing off.........cars f*cked... and theres no going back......... (sniff sniff) poor celi

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

you need to stop attacking people. all you ever do is attack someone. get over it.

[juicedcelica]

all I ever do is attack you should look at how the post started dark.... I posted a reply to answer a question and you and trdgts026spd attack me and my car ...I tried helping you tried insulting ..this page is to help out fellow celica owner's with questions they are asking not to attack someone who is posting a reply with actual fact's and knowledge on the subject... the only subject I see you being able to post a factual reply to would be crying teenager's who live off of mommy and daddy until someone post that you should read reply and not post them

[jotan82]

juiced... remember... you pull up at a show with a action package... you won't win anything... originallity wins shows... and if he's looking to get the judges attention... he's doing the right thing...

keep modding that celi :thumbup: dont listen to the haters

[juicedcelica]

thanks to everyone that see's different is not bad.

[LiqSilv01]

Hey Juicedcelica, how long will a shop need to do air-ride, just an estimate.

[gregRowe]

juiced:

Just wanted to mention that I like the color of your car. I have seen enough people on other threads trash it and I don't understand why. Like you said, it's your car.

[Cash Money]

Ok lets get this straight... I hate juice and it's other forms...i'd never do it to any car...i could see trucks/suvs...

...but, to each there own...it's not our car, it's his...you should always put yourself first cause no matter what your gonna be the only one there...i get flamed on all the time cause the color, carbon fiber stuff, exhaust, and rims i got...but i don't care cause it makes me happy and it's what i want...not everyone buys a car for it's handling and performance...some just like it's look...and thats cool...think how boring the world would be if everyone was the same...variety is the spice of life...so if you're happy with it juicecelica then it shouldn't matter what someone says to you, just so it's what you want...it's your car, your money, your heart and soul...good for you...

but one last thing...if i ever see anyone put juice on a TT Supra, i would beat them near the end of their life...i saw that Toyota commericial and flipped out...i must of wrote them 20 times...and i haven't seen it since...even all you lower rider fans have to agree on that... :D

[Sups]

sorry guys, but i dont understand when you say riding on airbags.. what does that mean.. any pictures?

[juicedcelica]

I would say for a shop to do a quality install that they would have your car for a week or two depending on how busy they are and how you want the install to look . I would give you some advise on shops to go to but I see your from missouri and I don't know anyone out there so I'm know help if you want to come to AZ to drop off your car I could recommend quite a few quality shops that do excellent quality work

[CarbonBlue02]

Originally posted by jotan82
juiced... remember... you pull up at a show with a action package... you won't win anything... originallity wins shows... and if he's looking to get the judges attention... he's doing the right thing...

keep modding that celi :thumbup: dont listen to the haters

Jotan you always seem to make good points.

Matt