C2 manifold

[pnoy]

yes it did finally gave up tonight and I wasn't even flooring the car since I just had my clutch replace and insert mounts place. I checked every pipe hoping it was it but everything was fine but the manifold. It had an inch broken welded line on the flange.

Now I 3 options to resolve this:

1. Talk to Gas and try to resolve it with his newer manifold.

2. Talk to Hass or Neukin and have them produce a manifold using C2's turbo specs.

3. To save cost and labor in the long run, maybe it's time to redo my turbo system using GT28rs, new manifold, and re-route the pipings.


I'm kinda leaning towards option 3 since the shop who will make it for me did a 300 WHP GTS and still running strong for a year now. Which also means that I might be selling this kit minus the broken header and electronics that it needs including Apexi EL2 gauges.

Oh and hopefully I can convince the fabricator to make 3-4 kits for GT if everything runs well.

Anyway, comments and suggestion are welcome. . . :sadpace:

[emotart]

get it rewelded and weld stress support bars on the header...

Option 4 is better and you wont have to spend mucho money and be out of a car for a long time

[nyoneway]

Why don't you talk and try to resolve the issue with your vendor first before you come here and post a negative comment. It's rediculous that you don't give someone a chance to to respond to your issue before bashing.

Btw, every vendor have had problems with turbo manifold. It's that hard of a design and space restrictions to be able to make a reliable manifold.

The easiest and fastest way to fix your issue is to have your shop fabricate an additonal reinforcement mount and flex-pipe to resist pressure on your manifold. I'm sure if you give C2gas a chance to respond, they will make you an resonable offer to resolve your issue.

[mukalicious]

Why don't you talk and try to resolve the issue with your vendor first before you come here and post a negative comment. It's rediculous that you don't give someone a chance to to respond to your issue before bashing.

Btw, every vendor have had problems with turbo manifold. It's that hard of a design and space restrictions to be able to make a reliable manifold.

The easiest and fastest way to fix your issue is to have your shop fabricate an additonal reinforcement mount and flex-pipe to resist pressure on your manifold. I'm sure if you give C2gas a chance to respond, they will make you an resonable offer to resolve your issue.


what he said... to the t.

[pnoy]

Why don't you talk and try to resolve the issue with your vendor first before you come here and post a negative comment. It's rediculous that you don't give someone a chance to to respond to your issue before bashing.

Btw, every vendor have had problems with turbo manifold. It's that hard of a design and space restrictions to be able to make a reliable manifold.

The easiest and fastest way to fix your issue is to have your shop fabricate an additonal reinforcement mount and flex-pipe to resist pressure on your manifold. I'm sure if you give C2gas a chance to respond, they will make you an resonable offer to resolve your issue.


I'm not bashing on C2. There's nothing wrong with the kit other that just few preventive measures. I'm just trying to point out my opinion on the 2nd version of manifold he had back then which if I could remember it right, most of the manifold problem came from the flange weldings itself. Hence, the reason why Gas change his manifold to reinforced the turbo.

If Gas would like to work on this with me. It will be no problem but given the time since he hasn't been on the boards lately, I'm open to other chances. Besides, I'm at the point where I'm starting to feel the need to push the GT to its limits.

[Smaay]

not a single SF manifold has cracked

[fraugts]

not a single SF manifold has cracked

woohooo!!

[Hetts]

not a single SF manifold has cracked


no, but i had one of his manifolds that warped and caused an exhaust leak... didnt break, but still a pain in the ass to uninstall the turbo, get it machined, etc etc...

get it rewelded and weld stress support bars on the header...

Option 4 is better and you wont have to spend mucho money and be out of a car for a long time


no, dont put stress support on the header, you have to support the turbo

[venomceli]

Get him on msn messenger, My manifold cracked to and he was fully cooperative in any had many options that will benefit you!

smaay, good thing they havent broke because you wouldnt be getting any support :)

[mukalicious]

mine did the same and gas made it right.

[pnoy]

Get him on msn messenger, My manifold cracked to and he was fully cooperative in any had many options that will benefit you!


what's Gaspar's MSN screen name? I'm gonna try to talk to him to see what he can do about this manifold.

[c2gas]

We have new cast iron manifolds. All the costumers who have reported issues been helped out. We setn out a bunch of manifold as shipping 1 by 1 would make it realy expensive and ECSF split them is the US. We are willing to send out more parts to them and let them take care of the US market.
We also had 1 negative issue (and 9 positive feedback from 10) with the cast iron ones as nobody recognised at visual inspection that there were some metal parts hanging inside the manifold and of course under heat those broke off demaging the turbo that was also replaced to the RS. We check now every manifold 3 times and also suggest to be checked at install.
This seems the best solution so far on the cracking manifolds.

[pnoy]

c2gas, you have PM

[sincere2883]

We have new cast iron manifolds. All the costumers who have reported issues been helped out. We setn out a bunch of manifold as shipping 1 by 1 would make it realy expensive and ECSF split them is the US. We are willing to send out more parts to them and let them take care of the US market.
We also had 1 negative issue (and 9 positive feedback from 10) with the cast iron ones as nobody recognised at visual inspection that there were some metal parts hanging inside the manifold and of course under heat those broke off demaging the turbo that was also replaced to the RS. We check now every manifold 3 times and also suggest to be checked at install.
This seems the best solution so far on the cracking manifolds.


i have the new cast iron manifold for the gt-s and let me tell u pnoy u won't be disapointed its one of the best manifolds i have seen made. that thing look like it can stand anything u put on its way.

[pnoy]

c2gas, you have a PM.

[EastcoastSpeed]

i have the new cast iron manifold for the gt-s and let me tell u pnoy u won't be disapointed its one of the best manifolds i have seen made. that thing look like it can stand anything u put on its way.


Agreed, this is definatly the future of C2 the manifold wil obvously not have issues of the PAST, moving forward C2'S product is progresivly creating better products to present to its customers.

[neukin]

Btw, every vendor have had problems with turbo manifold. It's that hard of a design and space restrictions to be able to make a reliable manifold.


umm ours is fine the first time, no problems ever

[nyoneway]

umm ours is fine the first time, no problems ever

I hope so, since you only sell the manifold and not the whole kit.

[neukin]

You were just talking about the manifold right?

"Btw, every vendor have had problems with turbo manifold."

no we havnt had problems with our manifold

"It's that hard of a design and space restrictions to be able to make a reliable manifold"

plenty of room, our manifold is larger then anything else iv seen.

[nyoneway]

You were just talking about the manifold right?

"Btw, every vendor have had problems with turbo manifold."

no we havnt had problems with our manifold

"It's that hard of a design and space restrictions to be able to make a reliable manifold"

plenty of room, our manifold is larger then anything else iv seen.

To clear the confusion,

I'm talking about turbo kits which includes the manifold has had problems with the manifold. It's the achilles heels for Celica turbo kits in the past. I'm emphasizing the fact that with all the problems people have had in the past with various turbo kits; the turbo manifold leak/crak/warp issue have to be ranked near the top.

I don't doubt that you have one of the better manifolds in the market and I would seriously consider your product if I was in the market. Just note that my comment didnt include Neukin or intent to be negative towards anyone vendor. I'm making the point not everyone can engineer a reliable turbo manifold and you can probably agree to that.

[Sky2king8]

Keep in mind this is a GT...neukin doesn't make one according to their website

I can't believe neukin is being represented by such a prick.

C2 has been nothing but good to me.

I only have a random cel when I push the car hard that stays on for a little while but no problems with the kit, or the install- so I will always buy from them.

[GT-Skid]

pnoy,

Don't feel bad bro i am on the 3rd mani on the C2 kit. I can't wait to get his new cast one though.

Even though i have had 2 break on me, Gas and C2power have alwas taken care of me. They have BY FAR the best Customer Service of any company you will ever deal with.

[pnoy]

Keep in mind this is a GT...neukin doesn't make one according to their website


Yes, he doesn't and because he believes that there's a difference with the flange. Well, I emailed him about it if I can send him my manifold and fabricate me a new one from there on, hopefully he'd be willing to.

pnoy,

Don't feel bad bro i am on the 3rd mani on the C2 kit. I can't wait to get his new cast one though.

Even though i have had 2 break on me, Gas and C2power have alwas taken care of me. They have BY FAR the best Customer Service of any company you will ever deal with.


Well, he told me to pay $100 shipping for the new manifold. I emailed him about it as well as getting the the GT28rs but he hasn't replied since last week. I'm not that worried but we'll see what will happen

[GT-Skid]

^^ They are out of the GT28rs turbos right now. I sent him a pm asking ETA of when he is getting more in, but no reply yet.