i need help what should i do

[sincere2883]

i took my car to lisays shop or ts&a i few of u mite know, and my car still there its been there for over 2 months, for the past month he keeps telling me tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow and nothing this is getting me realy pissed of hearing this over and over :furious: :ugh: i don't knwo what to do any more now that i call it has got to the point that he don't answer any of the phones any more his cell, nextel 2 way, or buisness, what should i do, last time i called or saw him said that he broke one of the bolts that hold the head down and he is now having problems taking the broken piece of the block. before that was a tool that broke, then the shop was doing the head wrong, its always something new with him some thing always brakes or goes wrong i kind of regret bringing my car to him, since he is far from where i live its not that easy to go all the way down there, and i herd that he said that i keep complaining to much, what else am i to do???????

[silverCELICAgt-s]

i say get a tow truck and a cop to go there and get ur car out of there shop. take ur business elsewhere. Idk how long this shop u r talkin about has been around for, buy usually when I look for a shop i look for one that has been around for a long time that isnt just gonna go out of business or slack off, etc.

the shop im takin my car to when i get home has been around since the 1940's lol.

[ekindbest]

call consumer department........and call cops on them....btw sue them for keeping and breaking your car.....tell them you need your car to go to work and stuff...sue their arses off.....I hate shops do this kinds of stuff....I won't let any shop keep my car for more than 6 days no matter what they are working on.......

[sincere2883]

^^^ is that even legal can i realy do that??? if i can i am going to give them one more week and if i don't get it back i will defenatly do that.

[140 GT]

I dont think its wise to sue. B/c that will just cost you a buttload. Just get the cops to investigate. tell em the whole situation and if they have anything broken on the car or anything wrong, then get your money back or w/e.

[HiOctane]

I think you should be able to sue them if need me. Besides it would be money worth spent. They should also give you money for you having to wait 2 months. That is way to long to be working on a car.

[sincere2883]

the whole head is out the car is in a million pices, well the engine is

[ekindbest]

they can even built a car less than 2 month

[N]

LOL @ responses.

u mite wanna talk to people who are actually from long island and know a thing or two about this person and their shot. this shop has been described as being reputable by many long islanders.

btw where is it located?

[twistedGTS]

hey Ricardo, that really sucks. He also had my car for over a month just to fix a a few things but that work was pretty good and not too expensive.
I would just be straight up with him and tell him to fix it right away or you will take him to small claim court. You can also call the BBB.
Anyway I would give him a week and then go there with a tow truck, I dont think the police would care so just take pics of everything and go to court with all the proof. Two months sounds like plenty of time to me to get that job done.
good luck man

[TRD StreetRacing]

i'm not going to post my opinion on this thread BUT all i'm going to say is that i've known linsey for about 2-3yrs now AND yes he takes longer than normal AND yes he is a hard man to get in contact with BUT his work is excelent and his price is good too.

he has had my car numerous times where it takes longer than normal to get it done but it gets done well. if there is any problem afterwards, he fixes it.

my list of work done by him

he put my second motor in,
he has done my tranny,
he put on my sway bars,
he fixed my O2 sensor problem
he put on my second set of suspension (it was too cold for me to do it)

now i'm going to go to him to get my cat done (he knows some1 in toyota that can get it done under warrenty)....otherwise its 1k out of pocket for that part :faint:

[sincere2883]

^^^ well for the first month or so maybe alittle more it was not hard to reach him at all but now that i keep calling about my car that i want it back now it seems to be a problem for him to answer, explain that to me? i have his cell, shop, and nextel two way number and he don't answer any of them do u see something wrong? i am not judging the quality of work but to me i never had a shop keep my car for over 2 months to fix any problem. now that i try to call he don't anwer my calls and he even has his cell phone off, what would u do in that situation? if he is so good like u claim y he keep braking things over and over and putting excuses for it? maybe he just don't like me? and he keeps telling me alot of the thigs are hard to work on. if they are so hard why did he bother taking my car in? a simple NO would have been enogh for me and i would have taken the car to someone that could do it right with NO problems.

[Dayton_Racer]

i'm not going to post my opinion on this thread BUT all i'm going to say is that i've known linsey for about 2-3yrs now AND yes he takes longer than normal AND yes he is a hard man to get in contact with BUT his work is excelent and his price is good too.

he has had my car numerous times where it takes longer than normal to get it done but it gets done well. if there is any problem afterwards, he fixes it.

my list of work done by him

he put my second motor in,
he has done my tranny,
he put on my sway bars,
he fixed my O2 sensor problem
he put on my second set of suspension (it was too cold for me to do it)

now i'm going to go to him to get my cat done (he knows some1 in toyota that can get it done under warrenty)....otherwise its 1k out of pocket for that part :faint:

where is his shop? i need some work done and need a good shop

btw - if u cant get the cat covered, why dont u buy the magnaflow cat. u can get it for about $60shipped on ebay.

[TRD StreetRacing]

^^^ well for the first month or so maybe alittle more it was not hard to reach him at all but now that i keep calling about my car that i want it back now it seems to be a problem for him to answer, explain that to me? i have his cell, shop, and nextel two way number and he don't answer any of them do u see something wrong? i am not judging the quality of work but to me i never had a shop keep my car for over 2 months to fix any problem. now that i try to call he don't anwer my calls and he even has his cell phone off, what would u do in that situation? if he is so good like u claim y he keep braking things over and over and putting excuses for it? maybe he just don't like me? and he keeps telling me alot of the thigs are hard to work on. if they are so hard why did he bother taking my car in? a simple NO would have been enogh for me and i would have taken the car to someone that could do it right with NO problems.

i was slimply stating my relationship with him....i'm not defending him NOR advicating for him. so dont ask me to "explain" or answer stuff in his behalf

[sincere2883]

i never said that u are defending him all i am trying to do its understand him. u say u know him for 2-3 years so that means u know him more then me. i am just trying to understand y he seams so careless now? thats all.

[TRD StreetRacing]

what do u mean by careless??

[sincere2883]

he just seems like he don't care when i call anymore like if i had no buiness with him u know, it seems to me like he don't care to work on my car any more he actualy said he was going to be done yesterday i called never answer i told a friend of my to call and he answer he only answers when he don't know the number, he knows my number so he don't answer, he told a friend of mine that he was going to finish saturday if not defenatly sunday and hanged up, never call saturday to say he finish and now he shut his phone off and its sunday, tomorrow i garantee u it will be a new story.

[TRD StreetRacing]

i dont know man....i'll call him and see whats going on. but i was there on tuesday when he was working on your car. he told me that you where coming by, so i waited a bit longer so i can talk to you since i have not seen you in a minute. i left @ about 6.30ish however

[sincere2883]

yea i was there about 6:45 i saw a white celica parked across the street it had the licence placte falling off was that u or some one else? i realy would apreciate if u could talk to him or at least help me get my car back soon i need it for the 6th of may and i am afraid i will still not get it by that time. i hope u don't get the wrong idea of me it just sucks to be with out a my car for almost a year since i tubo it its been down all this time and finaly that i got the money to get it fixed its still down for 2 months so i hope u understand. this is my only way of moving around.

[TRD StreetRacing]

that was not me accross the street. i'll try and stop by some time this week to see what up

[Dayton_Racer]

where is this shop? i want to get some quotes for shocks and springs install

[2000TRDSC]

I own the Black TRD Celica that has the Blitz S/C at TS&A (Lindsay's) shop. When I got that kit from Blitz, it had flaws. Lots of them! I know because I was going to the shop in to watch him work. We addressed so many issues with it, and after a lot of hard work, we have an incredible car.
I have seen your car and I have seen the damage you have done and the work that is going in to fixing those problems. My kit came from Blitz and it was a mess when we got it. Well made but not a perfect bolt on.
I have also been going to Lindsays shop for car troubles for years. Normal work takes a day or two tops. He has surpassed the dealership's quality by far, and works till crazy hours for specialized tuning such as ours. I have been there at 1 a.m. with him workin on this stuff till morning. Anyone I have sent to Lindsay is happy with his work. I will go back to install my Ragnorak Cams, and Power FC. next week. :headbang:

[Celitech]

When Ricardo brought his car to me I told him I had work that I had to finish first. We negoicated a resonable price. I expressed that everything does not go as planned so don't be surprised. I took the car apart and realized that the turbo oil lines were kinked and the turbo was starving for oil. I found out that this kit was put on wrong. I then foud out it was Ricardo who installed the kit. Ricardo hurt the turbo in process and I had to send it out for repair.
When I got involed with this situation I was suppose to only replace the cracked turbo manifold and send him on his way. Unfortunately the car had more hidden problems:
the exhaust side valve stem seals were leaking oil
the turbo manifold from C2 was not fitting
the exhaust was filled with oil
the turbo didn't have a brace on the engine

I told Ricardo about the above problems and he told me that I could take my time because he didn't have all the MONEY. I then had to send the head out to the machine shop and waited for it to come back. I also had adjust the exhaust manifold. I told him to get another of better quailty because this one would crack like the first. Three weeks have gone by so far. I now have to work on the third exhaust manifold and adjust it for better flow.
I think that everyone needs to understand I take pride in my work and I don't do half of job so it's going to be finished when it is right.


Thank You

[matadorgts]

By the way where is this shop located at? Do they do tunning as well?

[N]

is there a big secret about where the shop is located

looks like all these clients are glossin over the "where is the shop" posts rather easily

[TRD StreetRacing]

its located on penninsyla blvd in hempstead right off southen state parkway about a mile down the road

[Dayton_Racer]

anyone have a tel. number for this place?

[TRD StreetRacing]

email linsey (celitech)

[sincere2883]

When Ricardo brought his car to me I told him I had work that I had to finish first. We negoicated a resonable price. I expressed that everything does not go as planned so don't be surprised. I took the car apart and realized that the turbo oil lines were kinked and the turbo was starving for oil. I found out that this kit was put on wrong. I then foud out it was Ricardo who installed the kit. Ricardo hurt the turbo in process and I had to send it out for repair.
When I got involed with this situation I was suppose to only replace the cracked turbo manifold and send him on his way. Unfortunately the car had more hidden problems:
the exhaust side valve stem seals were leaking oil
the turbo manifold from C2 was not fitting
the exhaust was filled with oil
the turbo didn't have a brace on the engine

I told Ricardo about the above problems and he told me that I could take my time because he didn't have all the MONEY. I then had to send the head out to the machine shop and waited for it to come back. I also had adjust the exhaust manifold. I told him to get another of better quailty because this one would crack like the first. Three weeks have gone by so far. I now have to work on the third exhaust manifold and adjust it for better flow.
I think that everyone needs to understand I take pride in my work and I don't do half of job so it's going to be finished when it is right.


Thank You


At what point did u tell me don't be surprised?. When we where taking a ride in the black celica u told me this is what i want your car do to, and push as hard as this. remeber that?. I told u yes i want it to run good, u said i will have it done in a week i said ok no problem. The week whent by i called u thats when u told me "u have 3 valves leaking in 3 different cylinders i told u go ahead get it done right fix the problem. right? u told me it should take a bout a week. I called u a week or so telling u i had the new manifold u told me u have already done so much stuff to the car u needed a deposit of $1000, i told u i did not have it, i only got $800 u said it was fine when i whent to see the car all " the supost work" that was done was just remove the manifold THATS IT. I left u told me u got the the turbo back from the shop u where sending the head in " to the best shop out there " am i right? first time they mest up, second time they mest up, 3rd time they mest up again. how many times does it take till u realize that maybe they are not as good as u mite think? that was over 1 month or so. then u finaly got the head back then i call u i am going to be finish i am going to call u in 3 days. Never called, so i called the, car was not done u broke your tool. Waited, and waited then a few days after i called u again u said just come pick it up last week. U said u are going to be finish i said ok, i called u the day u told me to pick it up, u said when i called u at 1pm " RICARDO DIDIN'T I TELL U TO COME PICK IT UP IT WILL BE DONE TODAY.". So i did what i could to get a ride, i told a friend to take me. i got there and u broke a bolt. Now i have to WAIT AGAIN. Now i am still waiting for my car. U said i will get it today or tomorrow remember that?. so whats next what are u going to tell me tomorrow when i am suppost to pick it up?.

ps: U said ""I took the car apart and realized that the turbo oil lines were kinked and the turbo was starving for oil. I found out that this kit was put on wrong. I then foud out it was Ricardo who installed the kit. "" if u trying to be onest how can u say that??????????. the day i took the car to you, so u can let me know when u are ready to take it YOU asked me who istalled this and i told u I DID then 3 weeks after it was when i bring the car to u. DON'T say that u found out after cus u know better that was not true.

[TRD StreetRacing]

ricardo..... you need to retype that man. its very hard to read 1 big long sentance and make sense of it

[sincere2883]

^^ sorry i was alittle upset fixed

[N]

When Ricardo brought his car to me I told him I had work that I had to finish first. We negoicated a resonable price. I expressed that everything does not go as planned so don't be surprised. I took the car apart and realized that the turbo oil lines were kinked and the turbo was starving for oil. I found out that this kit was put on wrong. I then foud out it was Ricardo who installed the kit. Ricardo hurt the turbo in process and I had to send it out for repair.
When I got involed with this situation I was suppose to only replace the cracked turbo manifold and send him on his way. Unfortunately the car had more hidden problems:
the exhaust side valve stem seals were leaking oil
the turbo manifold from C2 was not fitting
the exhaust was filled with oil
the turbo didn't have a brace on the engine

I told Ricardo about the above problems and he told me that I could take my time because he didn't have all the MONEY. I then had to send the head out to the machine shop and waited for it to come back. I also had adjust the exhaust manifold. I told him to get another of better quailty because this one would crack like the first. Three weeks have gone by so far. I now have to work on the third exhaust manifold and adjust it for better flow.
I think that everyone needs to understand I take pride in my work and I don't do half of job so it's going to be finished when it is right.


Thank You


at what point did u tell me don't be surprised when we where taking a ride in the black celica u told me this is what i want your car do to and push as hard as this. remeber that i told u yes i want it to run u said i will have it done in a week i said ok no problem the week whent by i called u thats when u told me "u have 3 valves leaking in 3 different cylinders i told u go ahead head it done right fix the problem. right? u told me it should take a bout a week. i called u a week after or something like that telling u i had the new manifold u told me u have already done so much stuff to the car u needed a deposit of $1000 i told u i did not have it i only got $800 u said it was fine when i whent to see the car all the " the supost work that was done was just remove the manifold THATS IT. i left u told me u got the the turbo back from the shop u where sending the head in " to the best shop out there " am i right? first time the mest up, second time, they mest up, 3rd time they mest up again. how many times does it take till u realy maybe they are not that good? that was over 1 month or so. then u finaly got the head back then i call u i am going to be finish i am going to call u in 3 days. never called i called the car was not done u broke your tool waited, and waited then a few days after i called u again u said just come pick it up last week u are going to be finish i said ok, i called u the day u told me to pick it up u said when i called u at 1pm " RICARDO DIDIN'T I TELL U TO COME PICK IT UP IT WILL BE DONE TODAY" so i did what i could to get a ride i told a friend to take me. i got there and u broke a bolt now i have to WAIT AGAIN. and now i am still waiting for my car u said i will get it today or tomorrow remember that. so whats next what are u going to tell me tomorrow when i suppost to pick it up?

the educational system (if u were actually schooled here) failed u miserably. if it this hard to READ what u mean, imagine trying to decipher your thoughts when you want work done.

saving pennies to lose dollars. ur $ was obviously spent on the wrong thing. TOEFL is your friend. invest in it before your Celica. that would be money well spent.

[sincere2883]

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[matadorgts]

Hey Ricardo... I'm sorry you had to go thru such a hard time to get your car up and running. At this point I will suggest you to speak to the shop owner not over the phone but in person, the game of "I call him and he said" obviously didn't take you anywhere.
Also try to get all your receipts together, I hope you asked for one upon giving money to this shop. Set a final date to pick up your car and remember that he has your car, therefore try to keep things as calm as possible. When we get extremely upset we tend to say stupid things. Also make it clear to the shop that you need the car and they took enough time already. My final word of advice bro...
Keep your cool and manage the situation peacefully, you know you need the car and you know you also paid to get the install done properly. I am not saying you have to be a whimp and let the shop walk all over you, you gotta put your foot down but be smart about it.

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[N]

[QUOTE=matadorgts] Hey Ricardo... I'm sorry you had to go thru such a hard time to get your car up and running. At this point I will suggest you to speak to the shop owner not over the phone but in person, the game of "I call him and he said" obviously didn't take you anywhere.
Also try to get all your receipts together, I hope you asked for one upon giving money to this shop. Set a final date to pick up your car and remember that he has your car, therefore try to keep things as calm as possible. When we get extremely upset we tend to say stupid things. Also make it clear to the shop that you need the car and they took enough time already. My final word of advice bro...
Keep your cool and manage the situation peacefully, you know you need the car and you know you also paid to get the install done properly. I am not saying you have to be a whimp and let the shop walk all over you, you gotta put your foot down but be smart about it.

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[N]

this thread is obviously in need of a capable transcriber who can see through the misplaced words and yesterday demands. *clears throat* i believe it flows right along like this:

1.Guy installs turbo himself (already starting on a wrong foot)
2. shiat hits the fan and he takes it to shop
3. guy tells shop what he wants done
4. shop says ok and guy leaves, expecting work done yesterday
5. guy contacts shop and shop lets guy know that more is needed to be done on car with turbo not professionally installed and thereby causing more problems to car
6. guy is out of cash BUT authorizes the work done obviously knowing that the work will take some time and hopefully by finished period, cash will be available to pay for job
7. shop starts on job and obviously takes time getting it done among other things
8. guy gets a bit more cash to his name and calls shop asking for progress
9. shop (foolishly) gives tentative date for finish instead of telling guy WE WILL CONTACT YOU WHEN ITS DONE
10. tentative date comes and guy tries to get car back but shop is still not finished
11. frustration mounts and guy resorts to defaming shop on public forum causing shop to register on forum for sole purpose of defending itself
12. guy winds up back at square one with his car still in shop and shop trying to get it fixed in time.

Futuristic Baby:
13. Guy shuts his piehole and works with shop by being patient in hopes that he can get car back in time to run it amock on Long Island and blow it before Summer is done

how'd i do?..cliff notes are a bitch when you're not a first hand witness but i tried with the info i caught on and off the forums.

[matadorgts]

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[Dayton_Racer]

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[evil eye]

$hit, his smooth talkin ass can sell u oxgyen and convince u the one ur breathing is hazardous to your health.


I do not doubt that at all. :laugh:

But, guys please, let's take it down a notch. No need to get hostile towards one another when a man's Celica is down and out. Thanks. ;)

[matadorgts]

the guy's english. what do u expect. he's good wit words n funny thing is if u kno him personally u would know that he doesnt need a dictionary. he can actually hold a conversation with proper english lol. better than i can say for myself and i go to columbia.
nero needs work on his car as well so it might not be a bad thing to bring him along to play mediator. $hit, his smooth talkin ass can sell u oxgyen and convince u the one ur breathing is hazardous to your health.


I know him in person too, and he is really funny, that is why I don't want to start a English writing contest with him because I am gonna loose.

[TRD StreetRacing]

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[Dayton_Racer]

celitech didnt PM me back. ne1 have a number for the guy or want to PM it to me? PLEASSSSEEE

[TRD StreetRacing]

let me ask him if he wants his # given out on the board. i'm pretty sure he would not mind it one bit BUT i must ask before i do so

[evil eye]

let me ask him if he wants his # given out on the board. i'm pretty sure he would not mind it one bit BUT i must ask before i do so


Why don't you just PM him the number, instead of posting it on here. And why would he mind? It's free advertising and one more customer for him. ;)

[Dayton_Racer]

nevermind got it already