14 pound 17X8 anybody?

[badceli]

This is not an interest thread. First we need to pick a wheel that would be good to start an interest thread with. If enough people are interested, Many and I would like to get a group buy going.

This is the wheel Many likes....

Rac monolites 17X8 13.4 lbs. Not sure what the price would be yet for a group buy, but we'll find out if enough people like this wheel.

http://www.sector111.com/images/products/wheels/16_17/rac/black_large.jpg

And these are the two I like....

Motegi Trak lite and Trak lite 2, both are the same weight and price. 17X8 14.5 lbs. These sell for about $300 each, but maybe we could get that price down with a group buy.

Trak lite in gun metal....

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/18208gunmetaltraklite.jpg

Trak lite in gun metal with polished lip....

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/18208traklite.jpg

Trak lite in flat black....

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/18208blaktraklite.jpg

Trak lite 2 in silver....

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/18208silver2.jpg

Trak lite 2 in gloss black with polished lip....

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/18208glossblak2.jpg

Trak lites on Stephen's S2000....

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/18208stephen.jpg

Yes, Stephen Papadakis is a bandwagon hopper and is now into drifting.

Anyway, let me know what you guys think. Feel free to post other suggestions. Thanks.

[001s2000]

those show 4 lug...we're five lug, and whats the offset with those rims?

[badceli]

those show 4 lug...we're five lug, and whats the offset with those rims?
Yes, I know. We would have them made in 5X100. The offset would be +35.

[itchyvi3t]

i would be in i personlaly like the tracklites, but watever is cheapest i guess.

[many]

Good thread Eric!
Are the track lites 17x8 +35?
those show 4 lug...we're five lug, and whats the offset with those rims?


The Rac monolites aren't available in 5x100 if we get 20 wheels made (that's 5 sets) they can do a special order!

[RekD0514]

the track lite ver 1 gunmetal with polished lip look gorgeous

[itchyvi3t]

is 3 enough for a gb, i really am looking for some nice lightweigt 17s, what prices are we looking at?

[Ch33z]

man i would be in for the gunmetal with polished lip if we can get a GB

[badceli]

Good thread Eric! Are the track lites 17x8 +35?
Thanks many. This was your idea, so if we can't make it happen and people start yelling at us....I blame you.

The only Trak lite available right now is the flat black. 17X8 +45 offset. As you know, this would fit, but it's not the perfect offset. +45 would be a little too tucked into the fender.
the track lite ver 1 gunmetal with polished lip look gorgeous

Yes it is. Good choice.
is 3 enough for a gb, i really am looking for some nice lightweigt 17s, what prices are we looking at?

Sorry, I have no idea what the price could be and most companies don't consider 3 sets worth doing a GB. If we get enough people that can agree to buy the Trak lite (for example) I'll start an interest thread. Then I'll send the thread to Motegi and all of the sponsors on this site.

If we can't get enough people....I'll say to hell with you guys and just order a set for myself at the price they go for right now.
man i would be in for the gunmetal with polished lip if we can get a GB

Great. I was hoping you guys would like that one. That's the one I want too. I have always liked the Roja Formula 5, but it was way too expensive. The Trak lites look just like them though, plus they are lighter and cost a lot less.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/Us3dToil3tP4p3r/ah.jpg

I would probably powder coat mine silver though. Very clean look....

http://home.comcast.net/~stevekuz/Comcast/Lake7.jpg

[itchyvi3t]

i thoguht u bought the g-games already? or was that someone else. Well since Ro_JA stopped making the forumla 5's, i guess parent compnay motegi decided to keep the light weight 5 spoke idea. 17in formula 5's actually weigh 14 also i believe. I have been looking everywhere for those, can't find them anywhere.

you can try to pm azntrd2k, he has alot of stuff.

[sbocaj55]

how would a 14lb wheel hold up to a pothole? :hide: Are they cast or cut from a forged monoblock or what?

PA roads > lightweight wheels

[itchyvi3t]

tracklites are forged not sure about the rac monolites, im sure they are also forged due to its weight. I believe forged rims are stronger than casat rims therefore should hold up to more abuse. anyone want to chime in?

[sleepy_celi]

tracklites are forged not sure about the rac monolites, im sure they are also forged due to its weight. I believe forged rims are stronger than casat rims therefore should hold up to more abuse. anyone want to chime in?

x2

[canton_ph34r]

I like the first ones! They look like the wedsport rims but too bad I already have wheels.

[VoodooTRD]

im down to buy two for track use.
im willing to get two Trak lite in flat black. How much do they cost per wheel?

[kimGT]

those monolites would be sweet but extremely expensive

[badceli]

i thought u bought the g-games already? or was that someone else. Well since Ro_JA stopped making the forumla 5's, i guess parent compnay motegi decided to keep the light weight 5 spoke idea. 17in formula 5's actually weigh 14 also i believe. I have been looking everywhere for those, can't find them anywhere.

you can try to pm azntrd2k, he has alot of stuff.

Yes, but my G-games are just for street use. Now I need track wheels.

The Formula 5 was 14.5 lbs for the 17X7. Going an inch wider would make them a little heavier. Nothing that would make a difference though. They are both very lightweight.
how would a 14lb wheel hold up to a pothole? Not sure, but when I see a pothole, I go around it.

im down to buy two for track use.
im willing to get two Trak lite in flat black. How much do they cost per wheel?

Great. Looks like we might get enough for a GB after all. They are $300 each from Motegi, but we will try to get that price down.
those monolites would be sweet but extremely expensive

I'm not sure what the price would be on those. many showed me the email from that company, but I didn't understand it....they said a one off would cost $6 :confused: What the hell does that mean....$600 each?....$6000 a set?

I posted this thread on Allgencelica. Not sure why I did that. They don't give a rats ass about lightweight wheels.

[many]

I'm not sure what the price would be on those. many showed me the email from that company, but I didn't understand it....they said a one off would cost $6 :confused: What the hell does that mean....$600 each?....$6000 a set?
The one off set is made out of magnesium!! and it's 6000.00$ :faint:

I posted this thread on Allgencelica. Not sure why I did that. They don't give a rats ass about lightweight wheels. :chuckles:

Eric are the mags your looking at 17x8 +35?

[badceli]

The one off set is made out of magnesium!! and it's 6000.00$ :faint:

$6000?!!!! Screw that! Even if they cut that price in half, it would be too much money. I think we can cross that wheel off our list.

Eric are the mags you're looking at 17x8 +35?
No, they are 17X8 +45. I'm sure we could get them to make a +35 though. It looks like we almost have enough people interested in the Trak lites already. If a couple more say they are interested, I'll contact Motegi and our sponsors to see if they can get these made for us.

Would you buy a set? Or are you set on those Monolites?

[many]

I emailled them again today , asking the curent price list on 17x8 for the regular ones.
The magnesium ones are only for hard core and are a special order only;
hence the "sky-high-need-to-pimp-the-wife-to-be-able-to-afford" price. :rimshot:


But I'm with you on this I think the're going to be way higher priced then the TRAK lites.
I like those monolites, but these wheels will be for track days only so I really dont care that much.
And yes I would be IN for those Trak lites .
Do you think they will fit the BBK?

[badceli]

hence the "sky-high-need-to-pimp-the-wife-to-be-able-to-afford" price.

:laugh:

And yes I would be IN for those Trak lites . Do you think they will fit the BBK?
Great. I was hoping you would go for a set. Yes, I have seen a car with the 17X8 Trak lites and a BBK.

IMO, they are as close to perfect as we can get....good price....very lightweight....they fit over a BBK and they look great. Even if we can't get Motegi to make us a few sets in +35, the +45 really wouldn't be that bad.

sheizen had 17X8.5 +44 and his looked fine....
http://img257.echo.cx/img257/6449/7824offset16ew.jpg
A half inch wouldn't make much of a difference, but I'll ask about making some +35.

[itchyvi3t]

cheapest ive seen was tirerack 288/rim wiht free ship i think. I would def be in if we could get it aroudn 1k shipped?

[silv3r0ne]

hence the "sky-high-need-to-pimp-the-wife-to-be-able-to-afford" price.

:laugh:

And yes I would be IN for those Trak lites . Do you think they will fit the BBK?
Great. I was hoping you would go for a set. Yes, I have seen a car with the 17X8 Trak lites and a BBK.

IMO, they are as close to perfect as we can get....good price....very lightweight....they fit over a BBK and they look great. Even if we can't get Motegi to make us a few sets in +35, the +45 really wouldn't be that bad.

sheizen had 17X8.5 +44 and his looked fine....
http://img257.echo.cx/img257/6449/7824offset16ew.jpg
A half inch wouldn't make much of a difference, but I'll ask about making some +35.



Its 18x8.5 not 17 :)

[badceli]

cheapest ive seen was tirerack 288/rim wiht free ship i think. I would def be in if we could get it aroudn 1k shipped?

Wow, $288 is damn good. I thought $320 was the norm. 1k shipped for a set would be outstanding. Sounds like a good price to shoot for.

I don't have an extra 1k right now, but I'll roll up all my coins or something. Or maybe start slashing prices in my for sale thread.

Its 18x8.5 not 17 :)
Oops. You're right. Not sure why I wrote 17X8.5. Probably all this talk about 17" wheels was stuck in my head.

[many]

I think +45 and 8'' wide,up front wont fit!!??

[badceli]

I think +45 and 8'' wide,up front wont fit!!??
If an 18X8.5 +44 fit fine, why wouldn't a 17X8 +45 fit?

[itchyvi3t]

throwing another option, Sportmax Forged 003, I couldnt find a weight but the 18s are 17.6lbs, im thinknig the 17s should be around 15-16. Pretty cheap for some forged rims, only 17x7 +40 though.

http://motorsportsr.com/Photos/003gm10h18.jpg

looking at around 800-900 shipped

[badceli]

Not bad. A little bit wagon wheelish and I would hate to settle for a 7" wide wheel, but not bad.

BTW....(off topic) check out David Letterman right now. Danica Patrick is on. Wow, what a woman. Very beautiful. I could listen to her talk about racing all night.

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/18208danica.jpg

[sbocaj55]

I posted this thread on Allgencelica. Not sure why I did that. They don't give a rats ass about lightweight wheels.


Allgen is a much smaller forum, therefore there are many less people who are serious about racing, and out of those that are, have money to afford a set of track wheels.

I'd love a set, but I'll have to wait a year for my account to refresh.

:tumble:

[badceli]

Allgen is a much smaller forum, therefore there are many less people who are serious about racing, and out of those that are, have money to afford a set of track wheels.

I'd love a set, but I'll have to wait a year for my account to refresh.

:tumble:
I realize it's a smaller forum, but the people that are there don't even view the thread. You don't have to be into racing to know the benefits of a lightweight wheel.

[itchyvi3t]

aiNot bad. A little bit wagon wheelish and I would hate to settle for a 7" wide wheel, but not bad.


http://www.bigwheels.net/wheels/sportmax/003_large.jpg
http://motorsportsr.com/Photos/CLS003-01.gif

they come in 8spoke for 4 lug cars and 10 for 5lug, the 8 spoke looks alot better to me, the offset looks horrible on the 10lugs (18 in rims on the acura). I have been looking for some nice 17in forged rims, and these would be pretty cheap, more around 800shipped.

and as far as the demand of lightweight 17in rims, i have seen very few members on nc.org that are own forged 17ins, if any they all get 18in. Dont blame them, but i dont see the poiint in getting lightweight 18s.

[badceli]

but i dont see the point in getting lightweight 18s
18's are okay for daily driving. I got 18's just because I liked the looks of them and I knew they would fit over my BBK. But if I could only have one set of wheels, I wouldn't have bought them.

[many]

Got an Email back from racmonolites:

Hi Manny,

I'll have to look closer at pricing. Each new fitment we build entails a
development and JWL/VIA certifcation process that we would have to pass on
to the group. I'd say we could get them to you at least at the Elise
wheels retail which is $2850.00.. Likley it would be a few hundred less.
Obiously the more wheels built the lower the costs will be per wheel.

Weight should be 13.5 lbs. Prodiuction and delivery could take up to 5
months. I know this is a long production delay but there are only a few
forges that can do this type of work and it is always booked far in
advance.

Let me know your thoughts..

Thanks,
Chuck
http://www.missdanicapatrick.com/pictures/25.jpg
http://www.missdanicapatrick.com/pictures/28.jpg
Damn I missed Letterman

[badceli]

Got an Email back from racmonolites:
That would be a pretty good deal, but still twice as much as the Traklites. Plus it looks like most of us would rather have the Traklites.

Not sure if the 5 people that have shown interest is going to be enough to make this happen though. We'll see.

Nice pics of Danica. I bet she's stronger than I am. Not that strong girls turn me on or anything.

[aZnTrD2k]

for a wheel company to produce a new size/offset/bolt pattern, usually requires ATLEAST 10 sets of wheels so that aoubt 40pcs. But different companies have different policies.

[badceli]

That's about what I figured we would need. I was just about to ask you if you had any connections with Motegi.

[aZnTrD2k]

That's about what I figured we would need. I was just about to ask you if you had any connections with Motegi.


They're within Southern Cali so I can just call them tomorrow. ONly thing is though is that 10 sets has to be all the same(color and everything).

[badceli]

That would be great. Thank you.

Most of us want the gun metal with polished lip. Two want flat black. Shouldn't be a problem for those two guys to powder coat theirs.

I know you sell the fn01-rc, but what do you think about getting a deal going with these Traklites? If you started a GB, I'm sure they would sell.

Motegi makes a 17X8 +45 and all we want to change is the offset to +35. Shouldn't be too much of a problem right?

[DURASPANK]

interested too

[badceli]

interested too
Great. That would put us at 6 sets so far. You definitely need new wheels. Would you want the gun metal with polished lip? I think they would look great on your car.

Here is about what they would look like on a blue Celica....

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/14066P1020459_JPG-med.jpg

[itchyvi3t]

im think just flat gunmetal would look sick, but either way gm or gm w/ lip i would be in for the right price

[DURASPANK]

[QUOTE=badceli]Great. That would put us at 6 sets so far. You definitely need new wheels. Would you want the gun metal with polished lip? I think they would look great on your car.

Yea! We want a dark center polished lip. BIG LIP

[itchyvi3t]

Alright well ive been calling around to get some quotes. I talked to rim1.com (ebay wholesale) before i saw c2auto was getting involved. Well anyways, rim1.com wants a list of what rim you want color/size/pattern/etc and even would offer tire packages i think. Only bad thing is that rim1 cant get motegi to do custom offset, hopefully azntrd can hook us up.

I figure its about time we make a list anyways.

all 17x8 +35 (ideal)

1. many
2. badceli
3. itchy gm
4. voodoo (2)
5. duraspank gm w/ ml

[many]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/tonymeis/AdvRims1.jpg

Check these out from Advan!!

[itchyvi3t]

traklite2?

[many]

And they make them in 17x8 +37 !!!
http://www.gruppe-s.com/Advan/advanrg2.htm

[badceli]

Yea! We want a dark center polished lip. BIG LIP

The lip on the Traklites is small. Big lips are for ricers. :chuckles: Just kidding. My G-games have a big lip. But if all you want is a big lip, you should look at some Axis wheels....

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/18208jerry.jpg
http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/18208Kathy_s_Celica_2-med.jpg

Problem with Axis is....they are heavy and will slow your car down.

BTW, I think it's very cool that you have been on here the past few months building this car for your daughter. My dad never did a damn thing for me. Spent most of his life in and out of prison before he was killed.

Alright well ive been calling around to get some quotes.
Damn, you have been doing more work than I have. I haven't talked to anybody yet about prices. I was going to wait to see if the interest would be worth it first.

You forgot Ch33z on that list.

1. many
2. badceli
3. itchy gm
4. voodoo (2 wheels)?
5. duraspank gm w/ ml
6. Ch33z

Remember....just because we have names on a list, doesn't mean they will buy. Half will probably back out in the next couple weeks. Never fails....they always do.

Check these out from Advan!!
What's up many....you don't have time to do research anymore? Why are you showing us a 17 pound cast wheel that cost $500 each? :sadpace:

[many]

:hide: It was friday ..... :chuckles:
But they kinda look good no?

[DURASPANK]

The lip on the Traklites is small. Big lips are for ricers. Just kidding. My G-games have a big lip. But if all you want is a big lip, you should look at some Axis wheels...

I think the big lip part comes from the old school days. You know DEEP dish FAT tires. Rear as high as you could get it front scraping the ground..

BTW, I think it's very cool that you have been on here the past few months building this car for your daughter

Yea I'll do about anything for my little girl. Well not little no more. But needs a cool car for college. We built the car for her senior project. Got a 97!!
Started with a 1500$ budget ended up at 2000$. Called in alot of favors
Wheels and drop or for graduation.

How do you get the dark block around quotes

[many]

How do you get the dark block around quotes


On top the every post there is a Quick quote square just check it in and it will automaticlly wrap the quotes around the text you want to quote! you can delete the text you dont want to also ...

[many]

http://www.edgeracing.com/tires/2054016

great site with great prices!!

[badceli]

But they kinda look good no?
Yes, but kinda looking good doesn't really cut it does it? Shame on you....brand name chaser.


I think the big lip part comes from the old school days. You know DEEP dish FAT tires. Rear as high as you could get it, front scraping the ground..

I knew you were from the same era as many and I. Most of these kids never knew that was the cool thing to do at one time.

Yea I'll do about anything for my little girl.

That's cool. You sound like a good dad. I would have a kid, but I'm way too young....I'm only 37. Maybe I'll have one when I'm about 65 or 70. Until then, I don't need some little basterd ruining my life.

Well not little no more.

What are you saying....she's fat?

Just messing with you man. Please don't take anything I say serious. I'm always cracking jokes. Too bad I'm the only one that thinks I'm funny though.

So why doesn't she post? Sign her up. I want to meet her.

http://www.edgeracing.com/tires/2054016

great site with great prices!!
Yes, they are very good. If this deal with the Traklites falls through, I would consider a set of the Enkei Rpf1's from them.

[many]

Shame on you....brand name chaser. :chuckles:


Yes, they are very good. If this deal with the Traklites falls through, I would consider a set of the Enkei Rpf1's from them.

yup I'm kinda liking them more and more :naughty:

[DURASPANK]

I knew you were from the same era as many and I. Most of these kids never knew that was the cool thing to do at one time.
Yea still have my old 72 chevelle. On a quite night you can here it rust

That's cool. You sound like a good dad. I would have a kid, but I'm way too young....I'm only 37. Maybe I'll have one when I'm about 65 or 70. Until then, I don't need some little basterd ruining my life.
I was 25 when she was born 35 when my son was

What are you saying....she's fat?
If she was I wouldn't I have as many boys around. LOL

So why doesn't she post? Sign her up. I want to meet her.
Shes a member. CeLiCaQT Just don't never post

BTW Your car is mean as Hell

[many]

I knew you were from the same era as many and I. Most of these kids never knew that was the cool thing to do at one time.
Yea still have my old 72 chevelle. On a quite night you can here it rust
:rofl: nice car btw






BTW Your car is mean as Hell

Yes it is but those are really really old pics !! ERIC would you post some freakin updates allready!! :whip:

[badceli]

yup I'm kinda liking them more and more
I like the fact that they are very strong, lightweight and priced well, but if you look at them from this angle....

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/18208rpf1-med.jpg

They are not a good looking wheel. Even though they will just be for the track....they have to look good before I will buy a set. Know what I mean?


Yea still have my old 72 chevelle. On a quite night you can here it rust
Nice. Love the 72 Chevelle. I had a lot of fun in my 69 Mach1 when it ran. I will build another hot rod one day. Maybe a 68 Camaro or a street truck. Not sure.

What are you saying....she's fat?
If she was I wouldn't have as many boys around. LOL

For me, this would be the funnest part about having a daughter. (no, I don't want to touch the boys) I'm talking about messing with them.

Did you ever see the movie Bad Boys II? There is a scene where some kid comes to pick up Martin Lawrences' daughter for a date and Will Smith pretends to be a drunk uncle that just got out of prison. Him and Martin mess with this kid until he is about to piss his pants.

I loved that scene and I would love to do the same thing to kids coming to pick up my daughter.

BTW Your car is mean as Hell

Thanks.

Yes it is but those are really really old pics !! ERIC would you post some freakin updates allready!!
I would, but it still looks the same. Knife has been working on the electronics and motor all this time. I don't mind the wait though. Peter Knife has spent so many hours perfecting this car, that it will be worth the wait. I would like to tell you guys about all the new modifications he has done, but that's a whole other thread.

[RGT]

Badceli, I am interested now in the tracklite, but in a black with polished lip. I'm not for sure i skipped over the part on how much they will cost so i am curious as to the price.

[badceli]

Badceli, I am interested now in the tracklite, but in a black with polished lip. I'm not for sure i skipped over the part on how much they will cost so i am curious as to the price.

Great. That puts us at 7 sets....

1. many
2. badceli
3. itchy gm
4. voodoo
5. duraspank gm w/ ml
6. Ch33z
7. RGT

3 more and we might have an amount that could get these made.

The Traklite don't come in black with a polished lip though....only the Traklite 2 does. Which design did you want? Would you mind having a set of gun metal Traklites powder coated if that's the only ones we can get made?

[RGT]

Negator on the tracklite 2... I like the other tracklite alot and i am really looking for black with polished lip :(

If we agree to do this will we all be getting the same style rim? I would imagine that for a custom 35mm offset they would prefer to manufacturer them in bulk...

[aZnTrD2k]

I've been intouch with Motegi's manager about this. HE said lead time will be 3months. He'll get back with me with the least quantity for special ordered wheels.

[many]

HE said lead time will be 3months.
:faint:

[DURASPANK]

HE said lead time will be 3months.
:faint:

x2

[badceli]

Negator on the tracklite 2... I like the other tracklite alot and i am really looking for black with polished lip :(

If we agree to do this will we all be getting the same style rim? I would imagine that for a custom 35mm offset they would prefer to manufacturer them in bulk...

I'm not sure if we will have to choose just one style. Let's see what aZnTrD2k finds out for us. If we can only get gun metal, it should only cost about $40 a wheel to have them powder coated gloss black I think. Plus you would have the only gloss black set if you did that :naughty:

If we get these wheels made, nobody can say...."Man, those wheels are so played out".

Nobody has these wheels.

Also, I forgot to answer your question about the price....Tire Rack sells them for $288 each here....
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/DisplayWheel.jsp?wheelMake=MOTEGI+TRACK&wheelModel=TRAKLITE&wheelFinish=Anthracite+w%2FMach+Lip
But we are hoping to get them for about $1000 shipped for a set. That's only if we are lucky though. We don't even know if Motegi will do a GB for us yet. They might just say...."Yes, we will make you a few sets with the +35 offset, but we can't sell them for less than $288 each" We'll see.

I've been intouch with Motegi's manager about this. HE said lead time will be 3months. He'll get back with me with the least quantity for special ordered wheels.

Thank you very much for helping us on this. I appreciate that very much. You can have my first born. Too bad you couldn't get them to make an 18X8.5 -5 offset for that APR Celica of yours. That would be a nice set of wheels for your car.

.
.
Are you guys in a hurry? 3 months is nothing. I don't mind the wait.

[many]

Are you guys in a hurry? 3 months is nothing. I don't mind the wait.

Well track days are now thrue out the summer. But I dont mind the wait....

[RGT]

I can wait. I am still interested so I will just keep following this thread to see what happens... :eatpop:

[itchyvi3t]

1. many
2. badceli
3. itchy gm
4. voodoo
5. duraspank gm w/ ml
6. Ch33z
7. RGT

could you all put your real names in and your preference. Im gonna send the list to the ebay guy just to get a price range.

[badceli]

could you all put your real names in and your preference.
Sure. Thanks for helping on this. I look forward to hear the price they tell you.

1. many
2. badceli....Eric Lucas....gm w/ ml
3. itchy gm
4. voodoo
5. duraspank gm w/ ml
6. Ch33z
7. RGT

[many]

1. many ........Emmanuel Maris......Black or gm
2. badceli....Eric Lucas....gm w/ ml
3. itchy gm
4. voodoo
5. duraspank gm w/ ml
6. Ch33z
7. RGT
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[itchyvi3t]

hopefully we get a nice price, too bad they are still +45, i would have stteld for +40. On ebay ive seen 17in sets sell for 960shipped

[badceli]

I really don't think a 17X8 +45 would look bad with a 235/40/17. Anybody got a picture of how that would look?

[itchyvi3t]

i dont think it will look that bad, im more afraid of rubbing issues, looking at shiezens pics, he is only about 5mm away from the rear control arm. Yes its an 8.5in wide, but they are 18in. The traklite have and extra +1 and only 17in. Since there is an in less you have to factor in the slope of the arm, depending how much it slopes inward per inch. That clearance lost from the extra .5in lengh hast to be offset by the .5 in clearance we gained from the width. Make sense? and that is just clearance about the side, i dont know if it will be hitting the rotor/strut/etc.

i would really want someone to test out an 17x8 with close to +45 before we all collect 5k+ for these sets of rims

[many]

Sorry guys but I will not get them if it's +45( they will rub up front). Especially with a 235!! For me at least these will be for track days only!! I cant risk it and dont want to add spacers!!

[badceli]

Make sense?
I see what you're saying. Makes sense to me.

Sorry guys but I will not get them if it's +45
I agree. Why take the risk of rubbing.

+35 or nothing. That's why I like this site. I might have bought the +45 and wasted a lot of money. In fact, the guys at Discount Tire tried to convince me to buy the +45. When I told them I wanted the Traklite in +35, they said....

"Motegi doesn't make that size wheel for your car for a reason, it's the wrong offset. Motegi knows what they are talking about and they recommend a +45 for the Celica".

I said...."Tell Motegi to shove that +45 wheel up their ass, I'm not buying it". Then walked out.

[RGT]

Sorry guys but I will not get them if it's +45( they will rub up front). Especially with a 235!! For me at least these will be for track days only!! I cant risk it and dont want to add spacers!!


I agree with Mani, the 45 offset is malakia. I really prefer a 35mm offset. :(

[itchyvi3t]

yea custom setup is gonna be sweet, but the price/wait isnt. I wanna see prices on the +35

[many]

Sorry guys but I will not get them if it's +45( they will rub up front). Especially with a 235!! For me at least these will be for track days only!! I cant risk it and dont want to add spacers!!


I agree with Mani, the 45 offset is malakia.

:rofl: Yiassou bre filarako!!!

[RGT]

Heheh, heretai !

Thought you'd get a kick out of that ;) Gia thn ellada re gamoto!

[Ch33z]

1. many ........Emmanuel Maris......Black or gm
2. badceli....Eric Lucas....gm w/ ml
3. itchy gm
4. voodoo
5. duraspank gm w/ ml
6. Ch33z...James Nguyen..GM
7. RGT

[itchyvi3t]

^ ok im not going to bother to fax the list since we are 100% going for the +35. filling out the names and preference would still be a good idea

1. many ........Emmanuel Maris......Black or gm
2. badceli.......Eric Lucas....gm w/ ml
3. itchy.........Kevin Bui....gm
4. voodoo
5. duraspank gm w/ ml
6. Ch33z........James Nguyen..GM
7. RGT

[many]

Check this one out!!..17x8... :applaud: http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/ssr/swap/ssr_typec_rs_anth_ci3_l.jpg


This one looks similar to the old SSR's but much better IMO!!
They aren't saying much on the offset :(

Guys???? Thought's??!!!

[badceli]

Yaaaay many!!! You did it! You found the perfect wheel! I just got off the phone with Preston at Gruppe-C and he has agreed to talk to us in this thread tonight and do a group buy for us. This is outstanding! The search for the perfect wheel is finally over. This wheel can not be beat....

17X8 +35 offset 13.5 pounds and we can choose between gunmetal or bronze. They sell for $360 + shipping right now, but he will give us a deal on a GB. He will do a GB for us even if it's only 3 or 5 of us that want a set, but the price will go down if we can get 10 people to buy.

Here is the link to Gruppe-S....
http://www.gruppe-s.com/SSR/SSR_TypeC.htm

Again, great job many. You are the man.

[itchyvi3t]

nice stuffs! i like them also, woudl you know if thye are fully forged or semi-forged like hteir other rims

[many]

Yaaaay many!!! You did it! You found the perfect wheel! I just got off the phone with Preston at Gruppe-C and he has agreed to talk to us in this thread tonight and do a group buy for us. This is outstanding! The search for the perfect wheel is finally over. This wheel can not be beat....

17X8 +35 offset 13.5 pounds and we can choose between gunmetal or bronze. They sell for $360 + shipping right now, but he will give us a deal on a GB. He will do a GB for us even if it's only 3 or 5 of us that want a set, but the price will go down if we can get 10 people to buy.

Here is the link to Gruppe-C....
http://www.gruppe-s.com/SSR/SSR_TypeC.htm

Again, great job many. You are the man.

OMG +35 :wiggle: :headbang: Yes!!!!!

So what color is this? black or gun metal?
http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/ssr/swap/ssr_typec_rs_anth_ci3_l.jpg
more pictures of the wheel:
http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/ssr/swap/ssr_typec_rs_anth_ci2_l.jpg
http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/ssr/swap/ssr_typec_rs_anth_ci1_l.jpg

[badceli]

OMG +35 :wiggle: :headbang: Yes!!!!!
Those were my thoughts too. I never thought I could get so excited just to see a damn wheel in the size I want. That and the weight....absolutely outstanding!
So what color is this? black or gunmetal?
Those are gunmetal. The 17X8 only comes in gunmetal or bronze. I'll probably powder coat mine silver though.

[badceli]

nice stuffs! i like them also, would you know if they are fully forged or semi-forged like their other rims
Glad you like them. I hope everybody else will too. It would be great if we can get 10 people in on this.

Not sure if they are forged. I'll try to find out. Or we can ask Preston when he stops by tonight.

[many]

Those were my thoughts too. I never thought I could get so excited just to see a damn wheel in the size I want. That and the weight....absolutely outstanding!
I woke up my youngest one by srceamming "YEEEEEESS" :hide:
You wont believe the amount of time I've spent on finding wheels and I'm sure you have done the same :chuckles:


Those are gunmetal. The 17X8 only comes in gunmetal or bronze. I'll probably powder coat mine silver though.

and what about those nice bling bling stickers?

[badceli]

I woke up my youngest one by srceamming "YEEEEEESS"
:laugh:

You wont believe the amount of time I've spent on finding wheels and I'm sure you have done the same :chuckles:

Yes, I have spent thousands of hours on this damn computer looking for the perfect wheel. I actually gave up and was about to just let this thread slip away until I saw your post.
and what about those nice bling bling stickers?
Those are nice stickers. I might have to order another set of those if I powder coat mine. Not sure though, maybe I'll just polish the lip on the gunmetal wheels and see how well that goes with my paint.

I screwed up today. I thought Preston's email was preston@gruppe-c.com. That was wrong. It's preston@gruppe-s.com. So maybe he'll stop by tomorrow now that I sent the email linking him to this thread.

Anybody can do one group buy without being a sponsor right?

[DURASPANK]

Can that lip be polished? I like the weight though.

[many]

Anybody can do one group buy without being a sponsor right?

I think you are right, but it only can be made by a member (only) and not a shop.

[badceli]

Can that lip be polished? I like the weight though.

Of course. Any wheel can be polished. In fact that's what I do for fun....I strip the paint off parts of my car, then polish them until they look chrome. I think the SSR's look great in gunmetal with a polished lip....here is a 17X8 +35 with a 235/40/17....perfect!

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/3727P1010051.jpg

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/3727P1010053.jpg

So will you be in for a set of SSR's?



Anybody can do one group buy without being a sponsor right?

I think you are right, but it only can be made by a member (only) and not a shop.

That sucks. I was hoping Preston could handle the group buy himself. Not a problem though....I will be glad to do it for him. Or maybe we could get one of our site sponsors to work with him?

[many]

We should think of ordering them with tires(If it's doable), some good Compound R tires might be in order. That way we might save a bit more....

I know the Yokoamas R032R(soft) come in 235/40 and the Toyo's RA-1....

[badceli]

Good idea. I think I'm going to burn a set of drag radials off before I buy a set of autocross tires though. I want to see what this thing will do in the 1/4 before I start racing autocross and rally.

That's another good question for Preston though.

[gruppe-s-LLC]

Hi Guys,
I have some bad news. :( With the Japanese yen falling at the rate it's going we can't do a group buy. Our web prices are actually too low as it is and they will be going up.

If the exchange rate situation changes for the better, we may be able to do a group buy in the future.

For now, the best we can do is just our web prices.

regards,
Preston
www.gruppe-s.com

[many]

ok what about tires?

[RGT]

...a roller coaster ride of emotions... I had my hopes up for that last set of wheels. I could do gunmetal, looks dark enough for my taste.

[many]

Also if we order from you , how much time would it take to get them?

[badceli]

Hi Guys, I have some bad news.
Hey Preston, thanks for stopping by. I appreciate you trying to do the group buy for us. It's not a problem that you couldn't do it. $1,440 is still a great price for a set of these wheels and I will order a set from you.

I forgot to tell you that you can't advertise your store without being a sponsor. It's kind of funny....I can post a link to your store, but you can't. Your post might be deleted.

I had my hopes up for that last set of wheels.
You're not saying that Motegis would be better than SSRs are you? SSRs are the sh!t. It was upsetting to me that I was about to put Motegis on my car. You can get Motegi at Sears. Yes, I'm like many, I'm a brand name chaser.

Also if we order from you , how much time would it take to get them?

I think about a month. Let me check on that.

[itchyvi3t]

I'm like many, I'm a brand name chaser.



booo!! ssrs are nice though, and lighter, too much money for me :(

[badceli]

too much money for me
Good....one less person that will have the same wheel as I do :chiglaugh

Seriously though, it would only be $288 more for a set than what we were going to spend on the Motegis. I have spent $300 in one weekend before, then woke up monday morning and forgot what the hell I spent it on.

It's not just the name "SSR" I'm after. If your going to modify your car, why not get the best parts money can buy? In my opinion....this is the best wheel you can buy. You won't find a lighter 17X8 for under $400 and this wheel looks damn good on a Celica.

Plus it's already made in the perfect size we need. To hell with trying to get a company to make a custom wheel for us.

A lot of people don't understand why somebody would spend an extra couple hundred dollars just to get lightweight wheels. They don't realize what a couple pounds of unsprung weight will do.

I will shave every pound possible off my car except for carpet. I can't do the gutted metal interior look. I still want the interior to look nice, but when my car is finished, I want to know that I didn't everything possible to make it as fast as it can be.

So how about you....what kind of car do you want your Celica to be....an average car with cheap parts....a show car....or a performance car?

[many]

I have spent $300 in one weekend before, then woke up monday morning and forgot what the hell I spent it on.


:chuckles:



So how about you....what kind of car do you want your Celica to be....an average car with cheap parts....a show car....or a performance car?

You know my next mod is Lamebo doors...

[itchyvi3t]

So how about you....what kind of car do you want your Celica to be....an average car with cheap parts....a show car....or a performance car?

yea i know what you mean, if i dont buy the best i end up selling watever i settled for and buy the best, so why not just buy the best in the first place.

One thing is that im not rich, nor will i be for a while. Still in college with future plans for grad school and all, quite frankly i cant afford to waste too much money on my car. 2nd im asian, i like to get the most for my money :), i feel i did pretty good to make my car look good on a budget. 3rd i cant justify overspending for a car like the celica, i love it and all but there is no potential to a point. I rather modify my brothers 350. 4th my car is a daily, in Los Angeles, roads/small parking spaces/no garage tkaes a toll on my car, so why buy 1000+ rims to have the cracked/dented in a couple of years (if im lucky). I set my spending limit for 1k and i feel im stepping my bounds on that one. Im jealous of peopel that can spend so much on their car, i hope to keep my car till after med school then go all out on it. Till then im stuck with low grade usdm stuff

[badceli]

You know my next mod is Lamebo doors...
:bs: :ban:
2nd im asian, i like to get the most for my money
:laugh: Well you know us white guys....we love to blow money like there is no tomorrow.

3rd i cant justify overspending for a car like the celica, i love it and all but there is no potential to a point.
It wasn't too long ago that I also started to think this. I even started shopping for an MR2 Spyder to drop my motor into, but I couldn't do it. All it took was for me to see a good looking Celica fly by on the freeway and I remembered why I started this project of mine.

The Celica is a sexy little car and it has more potential than you might think. If an SRT-4 (Neon with a turbo) can run 10's, than so can we....
http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=B2418C82-2889-4E88-9E76-F0909E475DB5

If you don't think 10's are fast....remember, an 06 Lamborghini Gallardo runs 12's and an 06 Z06 runs 11's. As for top speed....c2gas calculated that my Celica should be able to hit 200 mph when it's done.

If you don't care about 1/4 mile tracks or top speed runs, than maybe autocross or rally is more your thing. About 20 years ago I used to race my friends down this canyon road near my house in California. 30 miles of S-turns. I loved that road. I drove my Celica back to Cali just to race on that road again. 80 mph through those sharp turns and I never did break the tires loose.

When I got back home I decided to put my Celica in the shop and make it even better. That was 3 years ago and it's been in the shop ever since. Almost done now though.

The next mods I want to do is more weight reduction. Have you guys heard of a member here named superman1240? This guy is a weight reduction freak....
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/member.php?u=10002

The last time he weighed his Celica, it weighed 1930 lbs! I was amazed when I saw that. Now he has added doors with lexan glass. He doesn't post much, but I follow his work closely and look forward to his next mod.

Anyway, sorry for rambling.

[itchyvi3t]

LoL i agree, i love the celica, always have always will, but the amount of $ spent on the celica would do alot more in a better car. ex 4k (hardware only) to boost the celica for 230-250whp. 4k (hardware only) to boost the 350, 400whp, you can only do so much with FF. That aside i still really want to be boosted right now but other things holding me back, money/tuning options/living in cali. Im def keeping the celi but right now not practical in dumping loads of money into it. So im just gonna sit by while you white guys buy all the nice stuff and have sick rides... just give me 30 yrs. Mahah.

But seriously i really want to see you car when it done, looks like its going to be a monster with your ssrs. (does this mean this thread is over? no more motegis?)

oh off topic arent u trying to get a track setup? or drag? or both? and is it your DD?

sry also rambling

[badceli]

the amount of $ spent on the celica would do alot more in a better car. ex 4k (hardware only) to boost the celica for 230-250whp. 4k (hardware only) to boost the 350, 400whp
True, the 350Z is a great car, but there are a couple things wrong with it....

1. I don't have one.

2. I don't have an extra $30,000 to buy one.

3. They weigh 3,400 lbs.

Why do I keep talking about weight?....It's all about power to weight ratio my friend. Weight/hp. A stock Celica GT is slow because it needs 1 hp to move 17.3 lbs.

A lotus Elise kicks ass because 1hp only needs to move 10.4 lbs.

A 400hp 350Z would be pretty fast because 1hp only needs to move 8.5 lbs.

A 300hp Celica needs 1hp to move 8 lbs.

Me....I'll need 1hp to move 3.2 lbs.

As for money....30k for a 350Z + 4k for a turbo kit = $34,000
Or....................7k for a Celica + 4k for a turbo kit = $11,000

As for RWD vs. FWD....there are tricks to reduce wheel spin on fwd cars....two step rev limiter....traction control....or drag straps. Any of these will work. I'll be using all of them.

Am I saying an 11,000 dollar 300hp Celica can be faster than a 34,000 dollar 400hp 350Z?....yes, I sure am.

Do I sound like an idiot that has had way too much to drink tonight and doesn't know what the hell he is talking about?....Maybe, but nobody else is reading this thread anymore, so who cares.

(does this mean this thread is over? no more motegis?)

No, I'm going to keep this thread going forever. :chuckles:

You still have four people that might want the Motegis instead of the SSRs....

1. voodoo
2. duraspank
3. Ch33z
4. RGT

Plus, other people might join in and say...."Hey Itchy! Let's get these Motegis made! I want a set"

BTW, why is your screen name Itchy?


oh off topic arent u trying to get a track setup? or drag? or both? and is it your DD?
I gave up on building a track. Too much money. Plus one is being built in my area, so I have no need to build one now.

Yes, my car will be my daily driver.

[many]

Tires now!!!
Do you think they can get them?
I'm curently using 225/45 R17 wich make it a 8.8" inch wide at the tread.


These sizes will all fit on a 8" rim.


Tire size------------overall diameter----------thread width
225/45 R17------------------24.9"-------------------8.8"
235/40 R17------------------24.4"-------------------8.9"
245/40 R17------------------24.8"-------------------9.7"

I never thought on putting a 245 , but I think we can pull it off.

[badceli]

I'm sure they could get tires, but they don't even list tires on their site, so I'm guessing they don't really deal with tires.

www.tirerack.com seems to be the best place to buy tires. I wish I had bought mine there instead of Discount tire. I would have saved some money. Plus I would have gone with a different tire.

After reading reviews on the Dunlop SP Sport FM901 I just bought....it seems that it wasn't a good choice. They are ranked #41 out of 47 tires. Oh well, I'll burn these off and get something better next time.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHP

What tire are you wanting?

[many]

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/types/comp.jsp

Michelin*

Pilot Sport Cup

Pirelli

PZero Corsa

PZero Corsa System

Yokohama*

ADVAN A032R

ADVAN A048

TOYO*

RA-1

Hoosier

A3S05

A6

R6

Kumho

ECSTA R700

ECSTA V700

ECSTA V710

VictoRacer V700

The ones with an * I'm leaning towards them.

[badceli]

The ones with an * I'm leaning towards them.

And this is why you are in a league above most of us. There is no way in hell I could spend $1000 on a set of tires that only last 3000 miles. Not until I better job anyway. But for now, my bank account would drop to 0 very quickly buying tires like those all the time.

When I race, it will just be for fun. So these would probably do me fine....
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=ECSTA+MX
They are $100 each and last about 30,000 miles. Most people say they are great for the track. I'll try a set of these, then I'll try a set of the expensive ones once and see if there is that much of a difference.

But you think those tires you mentioned are really that much better? I have no idea. :shrugs:

[badceli]

but the amount of $ spent on the celica would do alot more in a better car.
One more thing on this subject....just because I said you can build a fast Celica for a small amount of money, doesn't mean it's anywhere near the best car you can build. If somebody said to me...."I really like my Celica and want to add a turbo....do you think I should?" I would say...."Sure, but don't spend too much on it. Just turbo your stock motor....make your Celica look good with some nice wheels and a body kit, then upgrade your suspension and you will have a very cool little car.

Now let's take 02VaderCelica for a different example....when he was in Iraq last year, he sent me an email and said...."Hey, your car is very cool and I want to do the same to mine. Can you help me with that?"

I said...."Sure I can help you....here is the best advise I can give you....Don't do it!! Do you have any idea how much money I have spent and what kind of car I could have for that money?!!

But he didn't listen to me. He lives down the street from me and I see him around all the time. He will have a nice car when it's done though.

Anyway, I want to show you guys this list. It makes me sick to my stomach everytime I look at it

Here is what I have spent....

2002 Celica GT....................$22,500

Custom turbo kit..................$4,000
Custom exhaust manifold.......""
Custom downpipe.................""
FMIC..................................""
Garret GT35R.......................$1,200
630cc injectors....................$800
Full 3" exhaust w/Magnaflow..$600
HKS BOV & flange.................$235
NX kit (direct port)...............$300
NX purge kit........................$85
NX bottle opener..................$250
NX bottle............................$80
Arospeed radiator reservoir.....$75
Polished turbo kit pipes.........$100
Custom intake manifold.........$1,000
ARP head studs...................$135
ARP main studs...................$50
ARP exhaust studs...............$45
Wiseco 8.8:1 pistons............$570
Darton sleeves....................$350
Crower rods........................$750
MWR valves........................$350
Crower cams (stage 2).........$425
Crower spring/retainer set.....$355
MWR Moroso oil pan.............$450
Autronic EMS......................$2,320
MXL Strada digital dash.........$1000
TRD clutch line....................$100
AEM UEGO Wideband 02........$311
AEM fuel pressure regulator...$150
Custom fuel rail...................$50
Walboro 255 lph fuel pump....$150
Arospeed oil catch can.........$70
RPS flywheel.......................$425
RPS Max street clutch..........$400
Koyo aluminum radiator.........$336
C2power transmission...........$3,900
MWR main & rod bearings......$173
Custom throttle body...........$250
Motor build & install.............$4,300
Balance & Blueprint..............""
Port & polished head............""
5 angle valve job.................""
Shaved crankshaft...............""

Total:

Exterior:

CF BRS hood.......................$500
CF blade for TRD wing...........$222
CF wing end caps.................$5
Sparco fuel door..................$125
TYC Reds...........................$40
Shaved door handles............$800
Carbon Grey Mica paint.........$2,700

Interior:

System install & interior work..$3000
Eclipse CD8454.....................$200
Two Zapco 3.0 amps.............$1,740
Treo 10" SSi sub...................$400
Boston component set...........$725
Corbeau A4 seats.................$600
Corbeau harnesses...............$200
Autopower roll bar................$600
B&M short shifter.................$150
Momo steering wheel............$211
PS2...................................$180
SS shifter cable bushings......$28
Razo 340G shift knob............$36
CF door inserts....................$180
CF E-brake handle cover.......$26
Leather shift boot................$29
Leather e-brake boot............$28
Viper alarm..........................$155

Brakes, Suspension & Wheels:

Stoptech big brake kit............$1275
Rear disc brake conversion......$650
Stoptech rear discs................$200
Hotchkis sway bars................$200
Hotchkis camber links.............$210
Hotchkis strut bar..................$375
TRD coilovers........................$863
HD endlinks...........................$165
Rays 77W 18X8.5...................$1,388
Dunlop SP Sport Fm901...........$548

Total...................................$70,859

And here is a few examples of what I could have had....

1. 2006 Porsche Cayman $60,900....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-36255325/2006/porsche/cayman/pompano-beach/fl/price-60900/tp-DLR
+ $10,000 in mods.

2. 1999 Porsche 911 $29,995....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-34749998/1999/porsche/911/santa-ana/ca/price-29995/tp-PP/do-basic
+ $40,000 in mods.

3. 2001 Porsche Twin Turbo 64,995
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-37777736/2001/porsche/twin+turbo/pompano-beach/fl/price-64995/tp-DLR
+ $5,000 in mods

4. 1991 Acura NSX $26,500....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-37690117/1991/acura/nsx/fulton/ny/price-26500/tp-DLR
+ $43,500 in mods

5. 1997 BMW M3 $17,500....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-32497252/1997/bmw/m3/louisville/ky/price-17500/tp-PP/do-basic
+ $52,500 in mods

6. 2006 BMW M3 $54,900....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-36433436/2006/bmw/m3/akron/oh/price-54900/tp-DLR/do-basic
+ $15,000 in mods

7. 2003 Corvette $24,000....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-34989049/2003/chevrolet/corvette/dalton/ga/price-24000/tp-PP/do-basic
+ $46,000 in mods

8. 2006 Corvette $43,862....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-36433479/2006/chevrolet/corvette/massillon/oh/price-43862/tp-DLR/do-basic
+ $26,000 in mods.

9. 2002 Viper $43,500....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-36492000/2002/dodge/viper/brookville/oh/price-43500/tp-PP/do-basic
+ $26,500 in mods

10. 2005 Viper $68,995....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-34697863/2005/dodge/viper/davis/ca/price-68995/tp-DLR/do-basic
+ 1000 in mods

11. 1995 Ferrari 355 $63,500....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-23919470/1995/ferrari/355/mount-pleasant/sc/price-63500/tp-PP/do-basic
+ $6,500 in mods

12. 2005 Lotus Elise $37,950....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-37908967/2005/lotus/elise/robinson/il/price-37950/tp-PP/do-basic
+ $32,000 in mods

13. 2002 Maserati Spyder $54,995....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-37565856/2002/maserati/spyder/fairfax/va/price-54995/tp-DLR/do-basic
+ $15,000 in mods

14. 1994 Mazda RX7 Twin Turbo $17,950....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-37538738/1994/mazda/rx7/madison-heights/mi/price-17950/tp-DLR/do-basic
+ $52,000 in mods.

15. 2003 EVO $22,995....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-34596550/2003/mitsubishi/lancer+evolution/manassas/va/price-22995/tp-DLR/do-basic
+ $47,000 in mods.

16. 2003 350Z $19,990....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-35468505/2003/nissan/350z/buffalo-grove/il/price-19990/tp-DLR
+ $50,000 in mods.

17. 2004 WRX $17,495....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-37502745/2004/subaru/impreza/fogelsville/pa/price-17495/tp-DLR/do-basic
+ $52,000 in mods.

18. 1992 MR2 $3,300....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-37915498/1992/toyota/mr2/houston/tx/price-3300/tp-PP/do-basic
+ $67,000 in mods.

19. 1998 Supra Turbo $14,000....
http://www.autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-37576413/1998/toyota/supra/san-diego/ca/price-14000/tp-PP
+ $56,000 in mods.

#19 really makes me sick when I think of that car with another $56,000 in mods put into it. I'm pretty sure it would be a little better than my car. :chuckles:

Which one would you guys choose?

[itchyvi3t]

my goodness (from your modlist and that supra) . Well i guess we pay to have things unique/personalized. That supra is nice but i would like to start on a clean slate. As far as celica price vs 350, both are really of no cost to me since i really didnt pay for the 350 and the celi is paid off, so i was comparing mod for mod.

but as far as your car, i had no idea your mods were that extensive rather thna the turbo............................................. .... wow, finish that puppy and get it on the dyno/track/drag.

[many]

The ones with an * I'm leaning towards them.

And this is why you are in a league above most of us. There is no way in hell I could spend $1000 on a set of tires that only last 3000 miles.

No not really I just want to have a set for track only!

And slowlly get some with a bit more Threadwear on it (as it's costing me too a lot of money). Besides the more you track the car the less you want to speed and go crazy on the road. Or maybe the "daddydiaperchangingconstantcryingsleepdeprivingno$ ex" is starting to change my ways :crazy2:



When I race, it will just be for fun. So these would probably do me fine....
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=ECSTA+MX
They are $100 each and last about 30,000 miles. Most people say they are great for the track. I'll try a set of these, then I'll try a set of the expensive ones once and see if there is that much of a difference.

But you think those tires you mentioned are really that much better? I have no idea. :shrugs:

That's the best thing you could do. You need to try out tires with your current setup then gradually try some with a lower thread wear so you can feel the difference.
The thing with compound R tires is in order to get a very notisable grip they need to heat up. Once they do they are amazing. Cold they tend to behave like regular high performance tires.
And with these tires the lose of grip is gradual, so you can sort of predict and ease up rather then loosing control.

[many]

Eric another thing, don

[itchyvi3t]

^^ u think thats gonna get him to buy you your tires?? .. lol. You must be stinking rich... advans look nice but i would have no exp with either. you car is going to be a track beast. Talk about being in a differnt league than both of you

[many]

^^ u think thats gonna get him to buy you your tires?? .. lol. You must be stinking rich... advans look nice but i would have no exp with either. you car is going to be a track beast. Talk about being in a differnt league than both of you

It's just 4 tires!!!! What's the big deal. I'm not rich by any means I do own my own business(car and detailing shop). I'm 37 btw. My car is paid up, I dont smoke, dont go out. I have 2 baby's at home and moding is my only"ME TIME" I have left. So the heck if I cant spend it on a set of good tires and some rims. :thumbup:

[itchyvi3t]

agreed, you deserve it, we are just jealous because we cant spend that much for a set of track tires/ let alone have a separate setup for track. well maybe bad .. but not me.. *******s

[badceli]

my goodness (from your modlist and that supra) . Well i guess we pay to have things unique/personalized.
But there is nothing unique about my car. It's just another Celica with a TRD kit and 70k put into it.
That supra is nice but i would like to start on a clean slate.
:furious: Are you kidding me?! Not sure if that deal is for real, but if a bank would loan me $14,000 I would fly there and buy that thing tomorrow. I posted that car in the "cars for sale forum" and everybody is saying that it can't be real....too good to be true. That thing is worth at least 40k.
finish that puppy and get it on the dyno/track/drag.
That's all I ever think about. I would pay Peter Knife an extra 1k if he would just hurry and finish my car, but it seems the shop has come to a screeching halt trying to figure out the fuel system and ECU I guess.
"daddydiaperchangingconstantcryingsleepdeprivingno$ ex"
:chuckles: This is why I will never have kids.
Not a lot of people have done what you have done.
That's because most people are smarter than I am. Thanks for trying to sugar coat it, but the fact is....anybody that spends 70k on a Celica is a dumbass.
you should open your own business
I would give my left nut to own my own business. Did you know that one of your nuts is worth 75k? No kidding. Is that enough to start a small business?

Maybe I'll go back to Iraq for another year....earn 100k, then come back and sell one of my nuts. 175k should be enough to start a shop. We really need a good shop in this town. We have about three of them and they all suck very badly. I want to own a shop that people can take their car to have anything done to it....performance, paint, interior etc.

Thanks for the compliments. You let me know if you ever need a partner. I can detail the hell out of a car.

And stop saying "threadwear"....it's treadwear.
well maybe bad .. but not me.
Negative. I can't afford diddly squat right now. I'm still a damn pizza boy that only makes about $3,500 a month.

[Royalcelica00]

wow this thread is very intresting, i was on the 2nd page and was like " i want a set of SSR fpr 1k" got disapointed.. but if the Motegi ever happen im down for the group buy!!:popcorn:

Bad-celi your passion for ur car > 1998 turbo supra by just a little, very admirable, hope ur car does well, Drag that them thing to hit 10s man!!! ur what modding is all about....if i had to choice from my beat up 00 and a 06 car (around 20k)... i would choose my beat up celi...

:faint:can u buy me a set of wheels too.. lol j/k ^^^ but im serious about what i just said^^

[badceli]

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Thanks, I appreciate that. And Itchy will be happy to see another person interested in the Traklites. He still wants to get them made. Can we add you to the list of people interested?

[itchyvi3t]

whee whee!!

nothing unique about ur celi!?!?!?? i coudl list $70k worth of stuff that makes your celi unique :laugh:

[badceli]

whee whee!!

nothing unique about ur celi!?!?!?? i could list $70k worth of stuff that makes your celi unique :laugh:
Guess we have a different definition of "unique". A unique car would be one that makes me say...."Wow, I have never seen anything like that before".

Mine will look like an average Celica. It just has a few mods done to it. Nothing unique.

BTW, that Supra for $14k turned out to be a fake. Figures....if it looks too good to be true....it probably is.

[Royalcelica00]

i can get those MOTEGI and make my celica unique.. it would be considered "custom made" > SSR lol

[itchyvi3t]

royal has a point :naughty:

but when i look at a car i dont think it is just the outside that is unique. But then again you forgot that people will see your big ass intercooler in your o so ordinary TRD front. And once you open the hood people will be blown away. I would have to say that is unique.

[badceli]

i can get those MOTEGI and make my celica unique.. it would be considered "custom made" > SSR lol

Yes, but SSR's are JDM. All the cool kids say JDM>custom :chuckles:

I'm kidding of course. I don't care where the hell a part is made. I just like the SSR's better. Not that the Traklites aren't a great wheel, I would also be very happy with a set of those.

And once you open the hood people will be blown away.
I do love my motor. I used to spend hours polishing every inch of it. And that's when it was pretty much stock. Now I'll have much more to polish. I'll be very eager to pop my hood when people ask.

I don't care about winning Best of Show at car shows anymore. The one year I did go to shows, I won 1st place at every show and that was great, but now I want a different trophy....I want best motor at Hot Import Nights. If I don't get, I'll go to each judge and punch them in the mouth.

In 2002 I seen a picture of The Red Dragons motor....it was love at first site. Everything was spotless and all the pipes were polished to perfection. I knew I had to have a motor that looked as good as his....

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/18208rd7.jpg

[mrs.badceli]

[QUOTE=many]
You love working on cars, you have a passion for it. Not only that. You

[itchyvi3t]

ouch!, im not even gonna get in the middle of this one mr. and mrs. bad.

[badceli]

.
:chiggy: :laugh:

Just kidding dear. Please don't throw my stuff out on the lawn.


Anyway ..... I just had to put my five cents in here.

Here in America, we say "two cents".

Germans.... :rolleyes:

ouch!, im not even gonna get in the middle of this one mr. and mrs. bad.

You see the way she belittles me? And she wonders why I don't perform well in bed.

Let this be a lesson to you kids....never get married.

[mukalicious]

what was this thread about? :chuckles:

[badceli]

what was this thread about? :chuckles:
Sorry, we go off topic sometimes. I'll do a quick recap for you....

This is a search for the perfect 17" lightweight wheel. Some people here want to get this Motegi Traklite made....

http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/18208traklite.jpg

They are only $288 each, but the best offset they come in is a +45 and we were trying to get some +35 made.

Then Many found this SSR Type C. It's the perfect size, but they are $360 each. These are the ones I'm buying though....

http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/ssr/swap/ssr_typec_rs_anth_ci3_l.jpg

[itchyvi3t]

mahaha!! rim thread turned praise badceli thread turn bash badceli thread.

I still love your work, even if your wife hates it, like he said before its better than habitual smoking/drinking no? good luck thats all im saying :gap:

[badceli]

Yes, I can always count on my wife to deflate any ego I might have.

[many]

:eek: :faint:

[many]

Sowhathepeepsdoin?
We should order from who?
And whats the ETA on these?

[badceli]

What's up many. I was hoping somebody would bring this thread back up. This thread was our own little place to crack jokes and tell stories.

I'm going to order the SSR's from Groupe-S. Did you find a better place to get them?

It would take about a month to get them from Japan.

[RekD0514]

so no pursuing the motegis anymore? :sadpace:

[badceli]

so no pursuing the motegis anymore? :sadpace:
I'm not sure if Itchy is still pursuing that or not.

Do you still want to try and get these made Itchy?

[itchyvi3t]

yea i do, dont know what is going on,

I guess we are waiting for azntrd to get back to us, but last time he said was it would take 3 mons.

[badceli]

I think I'm ready to order a set of the SSRs, but I'm not getting the 17X8. I'm getting 14X6..7.8 lbs..$230 each.

Not for the Celica though. Track wheels for the Celica can wait. This is for a new project....
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=215980

[Royalcelica00]

:chiggy: :laugh:

Just kidding dear. Please don't throw my stuff out on the lawn.


Here in America, we say "two cents".

Germans.... :rolleyes:


You see the way she belittles me? And she wonders why I don't perform well in bed.

Let this be a lesson to you kids....never get married.
:king: no wonder u spend so much time on ur car... lol ..

[badceli]

no wonder u spend so much time on ur car
Yup. Now I've got a new project. Time to start all over again. Anything to keep me out of the house. Don't tell her that though.

[itchyvi3t]

... new project!?!? you havnet finished the first, dam im jealous.

[GT211]

All this time that I'm now spending in the wheels/tire forum made me look at this thread again.. hah, I'd be down for those 17x8 SSR wheels.. I'm going to check on the weight on those Rota's then I should know for sure if I'm in or out.

[badceli]

... new project!?!? you haven't finished the first, damn im jealous.

Nothing to be jealous of, it's just an old Civic that anybody with an extra $3,500 could buy. I want to do this one myself though. Shops are doing all the work on the Celica because I don't trust myself to do it. Too much money invested in that thing for me to screw up.

All this time that I'm now spending in the wheels/tire forum made me look at this thread again.. hah, I'd be down for those 17x8 SSR wheels.. I'm going to check on the weight on those Rota's then I should know for sure if I'm in or out.

There is no group buy for the SSRs. You would have to pay full price. I'm starting to think they aren't worth the money.

[Royalcelica00]

wow 550 whp... how the hell are u planing to get that to happen.. our 2zz are pushing the whp every year...

nice civic btw, and anyone with an extra 3.5k ... IM SO JEALOUS!

[badceli]

wow 550 whp... how the hell are u planing to get that to happen
Simple....all you have to do is spend a ton of money replacing every single part on the motor, then add a big enough turbo and enough fuel and you will have 550 whp. Then after you do all this, you will probably realize that you just ruined your car as a daily driver and go buy an old Civic.

[Royalcelica00]

LOL at least at the end ull know ull have a 550 whp car that u can barely drive......hey badceli..ill trade u my gts for ur gts(worth$70k+) so u can have a daily driver celica.... lol i still dont understand how pizza delivering make so much money... i use to work that over the summer and didnt make shizzle..

[Royalcelica00]

Lets keep this on subject... What about a group buy on those SSR? ..

[badceli]

ill trade u my gts for ur GT
Tempting, but I'll have to pass for now.

i still dont understand how pizza delivering makes so much money... i use to work that over the summer and didnt make shizzle..

I work a lot of hours. Last night I worked 14 hours and made $230. When people say...."Man, I wish I had extra money to buy parts like you do", I think...."Why don't you get off your ass and get a second job".

Three more nights and I'll have enough to buy the SSR wheels I want.

You can just deliver pizzas on the weekend if you want, but don't just tell them the price and hand them the pizza, then expect to get a good tip. Before I even get to the door, I figure out what kind of person they are. There are many tricks to getting a good tip, but here are just a couple examples....

1. If they are a snob with a new BMW in the driveway, you say...."Nice car, aren't you afraid something will happen to it sitting out there?" Then look at them like you're crazy and thinking about doing something to it if they don't tip you. Good for a $5 tip everytime.

2. If they have a modified car, you compliment them on it and ask them about it. Be carefull with this one though. Sometimes they think I'm actually interested in their piece of crap car and spend the next 20 minutes telling me about it. Big waste of time.

3. Old ladies love compliments on their garden.

4. Fat or ugly girls like it when you flirt with them.

Those are just a few to get you started. Maybe I'll write a book sometime.

Lets keep this on subject... What about a group buy on those SSR? ..

No can do. We tried that already.

[redlinee46s3]

Too much to read. Are these wheels a go or no?

[badceli]

No, we were not able to get a GB on any of them.

[redlinee46s3]

Teh gay. I guess I'll go for the ssr ones then.

[Royalcelica00]

:king: Tempting, but I'll have to pass for now.

I work a lot of hours. Last night I worked 14 hours and made $230. When people say...."Man, I wish I had extra money to buy parts like you do", I think...."Why don't you get off your ass and get a second job".

Three more nights and I'll have enough to buy the SSR wheels I want.

You can just deliver pizzas on the weekend if you want, but don't just tell them the price and hand them the pizza, then expect to get a good tip. Before I even get to the door, I figure out what kind of person they are. There are many tricks to getting a good tip, but here are just a couple examples....

1. If they are a snob with a new BMW in the driveway, you say...."Nice car, aren't you afraid something will happen to it sitting out there?" Then look at them like you're crazy and thinking about doing something to it if they don't tip you. Good for a $5 tip everytime.

2. If they have a modified car, you compliment them on it and ask them about it. Be carefull with this one though. Sometimes they think I'm actually interested in their piece of crap car and spend the next 20 minutes telling me about it. Big waste of time.

3. Old ladies love compliments on their garden.

4. Fat or ugly girls like it when you flirt with them.

Those are just a few to get you started. Maybe I'll write a book sometime.


No can do. We tried that already.