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Celica maniac
05-08-2006, 04:30 PM
I really need to know what configuration some of you guy's are using.. if getting bigger injector or ussing a piggy back ecu...?


for those using injectors what size are u running?

and if ur using the greddy ecu... how is it configured and how is it connected?? by that i mean are u running the complete ecu to run everything off of it or are u only using it for the injectors..?


and please don't post if ur just going to say "use the search" :whip:

Boosted2.0
05-08-2006, 09:42 PM
Not too many guys on here have that supercharger. I'm pretty sure the S/C comes with some kind of piggyback, but they tend to run lean like that, Greddy or Power FC with larger injectors + water injection would probably be your best bet.

blackbird
05-09-2006, 07:21 AM
Well, i can tell you both one thing, the standard TRD S/C comes with a 5th injector yes people do use the gts injects but honestly unless the price of gas comes down, i'd stick with the ones already on there, and as for the alky injection, what people over at matrixowners.com have found out the only reason why they have to use the alky injection is because they use CAI plus the S/C and because of the tuning that comes with the TRD ECU it blew their catalytic converter. Another words you'll be fine with a greddy e-manage or power FC from apexi. Don't get me wrong though if you plan on using the alky injection from www.snowperformance.com you probably won't regret getting it due to the fact that it's going to make the roots s/c run that much more efficient and save yourself time the next time you want to re-tune your s/c. Good luck. :applaud:

slvceli
05-09-2006, 09:18 AM
I'm running stock injectors with emanage and no 5th injector.

Celica maniac
05-09-2006, 09:44 AM
and how is it running ok?

lVlemphizStylez
05-09-2006, 09:45 AM
running a forced induction application or high compression application off a piggybck system is very ineffecient and can be potentially dangerous to your engine...

GT211
05-09-2006, 10:09 AM
running a forced induction application or high compression application off a piggybck system is very ineffecient and can be potentially dangerous to your engine...

The GT is alright to handle boost. I really don't see where your claims come into play here.

The TRD S/C on the GT does just fine. A Turbo on a GT is also fine when running 7psi. The GT-S is where we start seeing problems.

lVlemphizStylez
05-09-2006, 10:20 AM
what you just said has what to do with what i said??? absolutely nothing...i said a piggyback system isnt suitable to tune any car with high compression over stock or on forced induction...

blackbird
05-09-2006, 10:20 AM
The GT is alright to handle boost. I really don't see where your claims come into play here.

The TRD S/C on the GT does just fine. A Turbo on a GT is also fine when running 7psi. The GT-S is where we start seeing problems.
:werd: :owned: :newbie:

lVlemphizStylez
05-09-2006, 10:23 AM
someone obviously didnt understand what was said....and there are so many things wrong with your statement...but im not going to pick at it...just know this...psi isnt universal in determining power...put a t70 onto your gt...then run 7 psi...lemme know the results = )

blackbird
05-09-2006, 10:24 AM
what you just said has what to do with what i said??? absolutely nothing...i said a piggyback system isnt suitable to tune any car with high compression over stock or on forced induction...

Apparently one hasn't looked at piggy back systems and what they do, so what you're saying is that every car that is boosted in some way isn't done by piggy back back some magical way? :eslap:

blackbird
05-09-2006, 10:26 AM
who gives two beans about a t-70 were talking about the TRD S/C here, enough said.

lVlemphizStylez
05-09-2006, 10:26 AM
im not going to argue with you...your knowledge seems limited...my car is NOT run on a piggy back system...do you KNOW what a piggy back system is or does?? It tricks the ecu into running different fuel columns at different times...this is inefficient because its not independent of ignition tuning...this leads to undesired results..When you "lean" out a car with a Piggy Back, you also in all likelyhood advanced timing. When you "richen" a car with a Piggy Back, you also in all likelyhood retarded timing. Look at trends horizontally (as MAP changes) in an ignition table, and you will see why this happens. This helps explain why so many boosted cars running on the "AFC hack" have issues due to excessive ignition advance....please dont continue this argument unless you have good information to bring to it...

ps; he mentioned a gt turbo on 7psi...didnt know a trd sc was a turbocharger too....

lVlemphizStylez
05-09-2006, 10:31 AM
do yourself a favor....read up...get educated... www.pgmfi.org im the guy ppl bring their boosted cars to to tune them...it was a losing argument the moment you started..

blackbird
05-09-2006, 10:49 AM
lol okay buddy. but dont get to ahead of yourself with only 14posts. And btw i happen to know a few people who do tune , and tune the right way. You just assume .....PGMFI is a site dedicated to and for those who want to understand the operation of Honda ECUs. THIS IS A TOYOTA WEBSITE, not HOLD ON NOT DONE ACCELERATING website.

lVlemphizStylez
05-09-2006, 10:56 AM
fuel and ignition tuning is standard...smart guy...whether its honda or toyota...they are all fuel injection engines...and you KNOW ppl who tune cars...i DO the tuning...thats what seperates me from you....my post count doesnt say anything about my knowledge...you have 155 to my 14..but...enough said